#garfield Logs
Sep 13 2020
#garfield Calendar
12:01 AM rue_shop1: I wonder if I could make a 2x5mm broach
12:08 AM rue_shop1: or even just a punch
12:08 AM rue_shop1: a file would be too brittle to make it from...
12:08 AM rue_shop1: maybe just hss?
12:08 AM rue_shop1: a peice of lathe bit?
12:08 AM rue_shop1: ground to 2x5 with a concave tip
12:08 AM rue_shop1: set into some softer metal for pressing
12:08 AM rue_shop1: hmm
12:08 AM rue_shop1: bit blowout would be an issue without a die?
12:08 AM rue_shop1: maybe this would be a good EDM project
12:16 AM rue_shop1: wow
12:17 AM rue_shop1: ok, so I got some brand new industrial light fixtures a while ago and put one in my bathroom
12:17 AM rue_shop1: I was just checking the bulb and the plastic lens cracked
12:17 AM rue_shop1: THAT DIDN'T LAST LONG
12:18 AM rue_shop1: its been a few years, but, I'm talking full weather/duty fixture
12:39 AM MoonyMoon: Tom_L: thanks for the render :)
01:15 AM rue_mohr: ok, the hard drives for the phone system are ok
01:16 AM rue_mohr: so I just need a computer for them and I'm ok
01:55 AM polprog: I got 4 phones from a friend who was getting rid of junk yesterday
01:55 AM polprog: and this as well: https://i.ibb.co/3Ydm0M0/IMG-20200912-213936.jpg
05:52 AM rue_mohr: who's up yet?
05:53 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170330.jpg
05:53 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170333.jpg
05:53 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170334.jpg
05:53 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170337.jpg
05:53 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170338.jpg
05:53 AM rue_mohr: that took lots of carefull hand filing
05:54 AM rue_mohr: I wonder if I should go with it
06:10 AM rue_bed2: I almost wonder if its too raised
06:11 AM rue_bed2: I'm kinda leaning towards the embedded one
06:11 AM rue_bed2: but
06:11 AM rue_bed2: I want some text/labels
06:12 AM rue_bed2: which I'd need to do with insanly fine paint masking
06:12 AM rue_bed2: dont have a way of doing it
06:13 AM rue_bed2: I wonder if silk sceening would work
06:13 AM rue_bed2: I didn't get that going yet
06:13 AM rue_bed2: Tom_L, where your images of masking your silk sceens?
06:57 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/silkscreen/
01:16 PM rue_bed2: you printed the mask on projector sheet right?
01:18 PM Tom_L: clear yes
01:18 PM Tom_L: then lay a sheet of glass over it to hold it flat against the screen
01:18 PM rue_bed2: k
01:19 PM rue_bed2: what washed out the unexposed mask, water?
01:19 PM rue_bed2: oh my, its 11am
01:19 PM Tom_L: iirc that stuff was UV curable but a regular 150W? light worked
01:19 PM Tom_L: yes water and scrub it
01:19 PM Tom_L: like an old toothbrush or such
01:20 PM Tom_L: then i viewed it in the light to make sure i got it all
01:20 PM Tom_L: air helps
01:21 PM Tom_L: out of that whole jar of mask i barely used any
01:22 PM Tom_L: come get it if you want :)
01:22 PM Tom_L: the UV paint might still be good too
01:22 PM Tom_L: doubtful
01:22 PM Tom_L: oh and a rubber squeegie to spread it
01:22 PM Tom_L: not shown
01:23 PM rue_bed2: dont forget I still have what you sent me :S
01:24 PM Tom_L: what did i send?
01:24 PM Tom_L: i don't even remember
01:24 PM rue_bed2: a speedball kit
01:24 PM Tom_L: the silk?
01:24 PM rue_bed2: remember, not available in canada
01:24 PM Tom_L: no i didn't
01:24 PM Tom_L: reallY?
01:24 PM rue_bed2: and some silk yea
01:24 PM rue_bed2: I was supposed to play along
01:24 PM Tom_L: damn i'm gettin old n forgetful
01:24 PM rue_bed2: it was a while ago
01:24 PM Tom_L: we know how that goes
01:24 PM rue_bed2: its on my "things I resent I didn't do yet" list
01:25 PM Tom_L: you can have the frame too
01:25 PM Tom_L: make a cutout in wood for your workpiece so it's flush with the wood
01:26 PM rue_bed2: I'm really thinking a crate is a good idea
01:26 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/boards/USBTiny_Mkii/silkscreen/lid_cutout2.jpg
01:26 PM rue_bed2: I'd come down, but like wow man, your country is ...
01:26 PM Tom_L: overcuts so you can get it back out again too
01:26 PM Tom_L: :)
01:26 PM rue_bed2: how did you manage that in the sherline?
01:27 PM Tom_L: just did
01:27 PM Tom_L: maybe sideways? i don't remember
01:27 PM rue_bed2: I think yours is different than the one I have here
01:27 PM rue_bed2: I can fit like max 4" deep
01:27 PM Tom_L: yeah
01:27 PM Tom_L: i had the 'swing arm' one
01:28 PM rue_bed2: I'm actually thinking of cobbling the huge one up for small slow jobs for now
01:28 PM rue_bed2: ah yea
01:28 PM Tom_L: so cut the shape out small and glue it to more wood around it
01:28 PM Tom_L: sand flat
01:28 PM Tom_L: you can have it too
01:28 PM Tom_L: it's in a box
01:28 PM rue_bed2: :/
01:29 PM Tom_L: probably 2-3 sets of steppers
01:29 PM Tom_L: i may keep the last set
01:29 PM rue_bed2: Would all the stuff you want to oust really fit on a pallette?
01:29 PM Tom_L: it _might_ be missing a spindle
01:29 PM rue_bed2: hah
01:30 PM Tom_L: no idea
01:30 PM Tom_L: i'm not gonna inventory it all
01:30 PM rue_bed2: your just too worried about getting it right
01:30 PM rue_bed2: bla bla bla kit bla bla kit, bla kit
01:32 PM rue_bed2: I wonder if I can fly down next year on vaccation
01:32 PM Tom_L: you'd never get it back on a plane
01:32 PM rue_bed2: driving would be a thing, but wow thats far down there
01:33 PM Tom_L: yup
01:33 PM rue_bed2: and the usa spooks me
01:33 PM Tom_L: i do 16-20 hrs going south usually
01:33 PM rue_bed2: I think I could get it shipped tho
01:33 PM rue_bed2: ?
01:33 PM Tom_L: it would be more than 20 i bet
01:33 PM rue_bed2: you have to be like 3+ days drive from the border
01:33 PM Tom_L: when i go to savannah
01:34 PM Tom_L: we're in the middle and it's on the SE coast
01:34 PM Tom_L: what was your st number?
01:34 PM Tom_L: i could look it up..
01:35 PM Tom_L: found it
01:36 PM Tom_L: 30 hrs
01:36 PM rue_bed2: huh
01:36 PM rue_bed2: so like 2 days
01:36 PM rue_bed2: presumadly the truck would live
01:37 PM rue_bed2: having those timing gears give out spooked me
01:37 PM rue_bed2: but I'm on a new set now
01:37 PM Tom_L: 3192 km
01:37 PM rue_bed2: oof, thats like more than a service interval
01:37 PM Tom_L: or 3298 km via I 90
01:37 PM polprog: nice led rue
01:37 PM rue_bed2: polprog, which option do I go with!
01:37 PM polprog: what are the options o_o
01:37 PM rue_bed2: I think that the painted one might be better
01:38 PM rue_bed2: I think that last twitter post is a compare
01:38 PM polprog: how does the painted one look like?
01:38 PM polprog: without depth looks better
01:38 PM polprog: io
01:38 PM polprog: imo*
01:39 PM rue_bed2: yea
01:39 PM rue_bed2: which surprised me
01:39 PM rue_bed2: ok, if you say so too
01:40 PM rue_bed2: I'm wondering how I can get some labels and scrollwork into there too
01:40 PM rue_bed2: hence silkscreen
01:40 PM rue_bed2: I cant hand cut it
01:40 PM rue_bed2: got no laser cutter
01:41 PM polprog: i wanted to get into silkscreen but its kinda hard to do all the chemical stuff in the bedroom/bathroom lab
01:41 PM polprog: etching is ok as its mostly one container...
01:41 PM Tom_L: rue_bed2, not a trip i'd care to take :)
01:42 PM Tom_L: i did silkscreen in the house.. easy
01:42 PM Tom_L: polprog, you see my pics?
01:42 PM polprog: yeah
01:43 PM polprog: what do you clean the screen with after>
01:43 PM polprog: ?
01:43 PM Tom_L: umm
01:43 PM Tom_L: naptha i think
01:43 PM Tom_L: brb
01:43 PM polprog: hmm... thats not as cancerogenic as toluene..
01:43 PM polprog: it could pass
01:44 PM polprog: the last bench reorder caused the speakers to be gone, sadly..
02:12 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33052809089.html
02:12 PM rue_mohr: 8-o
02:12 PM rue_mohr: oh sweet
02:12 PM polprog: ooo
02:12 PM rue_mohr: I KNOW
02:16 PM rue_mohr: their freaking $12 ea!!?!?!
02:17 PM polprog: yeah. expensive :(
02:17 PM rue_mohr: voltage / current
02:18 PM rue_mohr: I wonder which shaft pushes?
02:18 PM rue_mohr: the switch
02:18 PM rue_mohr: maybe just the tip
02:18 PM polprog: would be nice to have the tektronix kind, pull and turn
02:20 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32742387910.html <-- ????
02:21 PM polprog: hmmm, very nice
02:21 PM polprog: and cheaper
02:21 PM rue_mohr: well, its a hybrid of some kind...
02:22 PM rue_mohr: so, there just dont seem to be square led bezels made
02:24 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, i'd gotten similar encoders at one point to control the marlin lcd
02:26 PM Tom_L: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32872023811.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.39ec6bc5Pt53ii&algo_pvid=985064df-4852-436b-9829-612818d95b2d&algo_expid=985064df-4852-436b-9829-612818d95b2d-1&btsid=0bb0624116000251200972194edbce&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
02:27 PM polprog: oh, i got a nice LCD today... seven segment line, two PCF2111 serial drivers on a PCB
02:27 PM Tom_L: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32806186182.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.39ec6bc5Pt53ii&algo_pvid=985064df-4852-436b-9829-612818d95b2d&algo_expid=985064df-4852-436b-9829-612818d95b2d-22&btsid=0bb0624116000251200972194edbce&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
02:27 PM polprog: ill have to hack it later
02:27 PM Tom_L: push pull like you wanted
02:28 PM polprog: thanks
02:30 PM rue_mohr: oh!
02:30 PM rue_mohr: I saw that in a side panel and did't realize
02:31 PM rue_mohr: what wow, there are some crazy things here
02:34 PM rue_mohr: polprog, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000359760193.html
02:34 PM rue_mohr: I have an idea to do that with a 555....
02:35 PM rue_mohr: really easy, gonna try it
02:35 PM polprog: hmm
02:35 PM polprog: i think this one keeps the state across power resets
02:58 PM rue_shop1: yup, got it
02:59 PM rue_shop1: ok, mine doesn't
03:18 PM polprog: fast
03:19 PM polprog: i made one in GAL recently (sr latch)
03:32 PM rue_mohr: ah, did you have debounce?
03:36 PM rue_mohr: wow today is just vaporizing
03:36 PM rue_mohr: why does sunday always do that
03:37 PM Tom_L: cause you started off at noon
03:40 PM rue_mohr: I need to find a new motherboard for the phone system....
03:40 PM rue_mohr: and the new phone system...
03:40 PM rue_mohr: arg
03:41 PM rue_mohr: but hey, I'v only had one telemarketer call in ... 16years?
03:41 PM Tom_L: you been saying that alot lately
03:41 PM Tom_L: just arg!
03:41 PM rue_mohr: yea, life is beating me up
03:41 PM Tom_L: don't let it
03:41 PM rue_mohr: I'm fighting it, but like damn
03:41 PM rue_mohr: flipping dogfight right now
03:41 PM Tom_L: i'm re'doing a document i spend hours on cause i lost it
03:42 PM rue_mohr: I hate that more than just about anything
03:42 PM rue_mohr: I can come up with stuff once
03:42 PM Tom_L: i have the printout but the file is gone
03:43 PM rue_mohr: ah lucky
03:43 PM Tom_L: shows how all my io pins are mapped to each board pin and what color they are
03:43 PM Tom_L: and function
03:43 PM Tom_L: main and daughter board both
03:44 PM Tom_L: it's one of several i've done
03:44 PM Tom_L: another shows the physical board pin location
03:44 PM Tom_L: having trouble finding any of em
03:47 PM Tom_L: was gonna go turn a part on the lathe to try and fix my air regulator but that's on hold
04:20 PM polprog: rue_mohr: no, i didnt, just a test
04:20 PM polprog: i should experiment more with the registered mode on gal
07:59 PM rue_mohr: ok, so, going with the paint mask led thing
07:59 PM rue_mohr: I'll tuck the cnc'd bezel away somewhere
08:08 PM Tom_L: :(
08:32 PM Tom_L: ok afik, pins on the main board, daughter board, DB25 and wire colors both internal and external have been updated and documented
08:32 PM Tom_L: and function of each
08:34 PM Tom_L: still a handfull of pullups or pulldowns not verified
08:53 PM rue_shop1: re-documenting the cnc?
08:53 PM Tom_L: yeah
08:53 PM Tom_L: simplifying a pile of notes
08:55 PM Tom_L: tying the IO with the pin number on each connection & wire color etc
08:55 PM Tom_L: sometimes the wire changes color
08:56 PM Tom_L: -> one color -> DB25 -> another color
09:27 PM rue_mohr: yup
09:39 PM Tom_L: printed. i'll verify it when i get back in the control
09:44 PM rue_shop1: MoonyMoon, so, if you want to build a cnc machine, the first step is comming around on a regular basis to do it
09:45 PM rue_shop1: I did the test cut to square up the machine, but I havn't checked it yet
09:59 PM Tom_L: square or round?
09:59 PM Tom_L: he should load that software up and learn about it
10:28 PM rue_shop1: I did a cover plate night before last and he noticed it wasn't square
10:28 PM MoonyMoon: rue_shop1: XD
10:28 PM rue_shop1: so, I did a test cut into some wood to find out which ways its otu
10:28 PM MoonyMoon: ill see you tomorrow tough guy ;)
10:28 PM MoonyMoon: and.?
10:29 PM Tom_L: MoonyMoon, you buildin a cnc too?
10:33 PM rue_mohr: hah
10:34 PM rue_mohr: he wants to
10:34 PM rue_mohr: he keeps setting up and forgetting
10:34 PM Tom_L: wanting is not to do
10:34 PM Tom_L: i'm gettin tired of waiting
10:36 PM rue_mohr: I dont have a passport right now
10:36 PM Tom_L: i've never had one
10:36 PM Tom_L: almost got one once
10:36 PM rue_mohr: takes darn near a week to do the stuff to set up for one
10:37 PM rue_mohr: I'd ask z, but if he leaves his place it'll get looted
10:37 PM Tom_L: not a good time to go anywhere
10:37 PM Tom_L: may not get out or back in
10:37 PM Tom_L: he's too far away anyway
10:37 PM rue_mohr: did shipping prices drop?
10:37 PM Tom_L: not that i'm aware of
10:37 PM rue_mohr: hmm
10:37 PM Tom_L: if anything they've gone up
10:38 PM rue_mohr: damn
10:38 PM rue_mohr: there must be a way of putting a pallette of stuff togethor without having to label every resistir
10:38 PM rue_mohr: what if you did some boxes as product kits
10:39 PM rue_mohr: throw in whatever, we list them as kits
10:39 PM Tom_L: 100 lbs of copper?
10:39 PM rue_mohr: or we just call it all e-waste
10:40 PM Tom_L: they'd wanna know about batteries etc
10:40 PM rue_mohr: I dont know if your being overly pesimistic
10:41 PM rue_mohr: "scrap copper" might work
10:41 PM Tom_L: never tried it but shipping at best is bad to there
10:41 PM rue_mohr: I do know a chap with a drop-thing at the border
10:41 PM rue_mohr: he goes over and picks stuff up
10:41 PM rue_mohr: I dont totally know the process
10:42 PM rue_mohr: something about a spot where its shipped to and I go pick it up
10:42 PM rue_mohr: I wonder if I could make it to you and back in a week
10:42 PM rue_mohr: I'm totally screwed up on my vaccation time
10:43 PM Tom_L: right now she'd freak out if a stranger showed up here
10:43 PM rue_mohr: life been messing with me latley, I'm getting gunshy
10:43 PM rue_mohr: :) thats probably good
10:43 PM Tom_L: not a good travel time
10:43 PM rue_mohr: "there never will be a good time"
10:43 PM rue_mohr: its how life works
10:44 PM rue_mohr: things never get easier
10:44 PM Tom_L: no but it's much worse now
10:44 PM rue_mohr: yup
10:44 PM rue_mohr: ooo
10:44 PM rue_mohr: wait, I'd have to be in quaratine for like 2 weeks when I got back...
10:44 PM rue_mohr: I'd have time to play
10:44 PM rue_mohr: :)
10:44 PM Tom_L: heh
10:46 PM rue_mohr: or I'd be stuck in some random state with a dead truck and a forrest fire comming up on me almost as fast as the crowd of covid-infected mob being chased by cops itching to beat up and arrest anyone they can find
10:47 PM Tom_L: there are plenty of threats out about the election too
10:47 PM Tom_L: severe riots
10:47 PM rue_mohr: well look at it, good reason
10:48 PM rue_mohr: the last one should have too
10:48 PM rue_mohr: anyhow
10:48 PM Tom_L: no it's different this round
10:49 PM rue_mohr: is that guy running against trump or did they switch again?
10:49 PM Tom_L: i'm not following any of it
10:49 PM rue_mohr: not really worth the time is it?
10:49 PM Tom_L: one is crazy
10:50 PM Tom_L: not to me
10:51 PM Tom_L: i'm goin to sleep
10:51 PM rue_mohr: gnight
10:51 PM rue_mohr: I need to make a 2nd supper thats better than the eggos slathered in icecream I had for my first supper
10:55 PM rue_mohr: damn I need to make a machine
10:55 PM rue_mohr: its not gonna finish if i dont start it