#garfield Logs
Sep 06 2020
#garfield Calendar
12:14 AM rue_mohr: to get the buttons working I have to get lirc working
12:20 AM rue_mohr: and they added a flag that I cant see how to turn on
12:39 AM rue_shop1: so we need another big chuck key
12:39 AM rue_shop1: amazon
12:39 AM rue_shop1: yea, sure but how do we know the size
12:39 AM rue_shop1: well there must be standard sizes
12:39 AM rue_shop1: hopefull based on something we can measure
12:43 AM rue_shop1: aha, they have numbers
12:43 AM rue_shop1: I'm guessing a #7 or #8
12:47 AM rue_shop1: the pilot is 8mm
12:47 AM rue_shop1: #8?
12:48 AM rue_shop1: 5/16
12:49 AM rue_shop1: apparently a T6
12:54 AM rue_shop1: https://www.amazon.ca/FIT-TOOLS-Master-Ratchet-Wrench/dp/B00YECNGBK/ref=sr_1_23
12:54 AM rue_shop1: oooo
12:59 AM rue_shop1: ok, well, its a genuine jaccobs chuck
01:00 AM rue_shop1: No 14N
01:01 AM rue_shop1: k3 key?
01:14 AM rue_mohr: #3 key again
01:14 AM rue_mohr: the numbers must be old-style, backwards
01:14 AM rue_mohr: smaller is biger
01:14 AM zhanx_workshop: ok video up, did i point enough for you?
01:15 AM rue_mohr: hate to see a #1 key then
01:15 AM rue_mohr: video!?
01:15 AM rue_mohr: where?
01:15 AM zhanx_workshop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8IzFxj7M-w
01:15 AM rue_mohr: stream or recoded
01:15 AM rue_mohr: recoded, right?
01:15 AM zhanx_workshop: recorded
01:16 AM zhanx_workshop: the system is running now
01:16 AM rue_mohr: pointing is looking good
01:16 AM zhanx_workshop: i am gonna make a sign that say dan look here
01:16 AM rue_mohr: helps to have a cameramn eh?
01:16 AM zhanx_workshop: it does
01:17 AM rue_mohr: pff
01:17 AM zhanx_workshop: gonna try and keep the videos to 2-5 minutes
01:18 AM rue_mohr: sure, processing is pain otherwise
01:18 AM rue_mohr: so, that should settle out just about everything
01:18 AM rue_mohr: but I dont see the fancy siphon thing
01:18 AM zhanx_workshop: yep and it is working nicely so far, its in the main tank
01:18 AM rue_mohr: part of another bit?
01:18 AM rue_mohr: where do the fish live?
01:19 AM zhanx_workshop: yea its been raining ever since i put it in
01:19 AM zhanx_workshop: 250 gallon ibc
01:19 AM rue_mohr: ah
01:19 AM zhanx_workshop: next part of the system is the top rows of dutch buckets
01:19 AM zhanx_workshop: 3 tiers
01:19 AM rue_mohr: so thats filer/seperator and airation
01:19 AM zhanx_workshop: yep
01:19 AM rue_mohr: k
01:20 AM rue_mohr: where did the thru fittings come from?
01:20 AM zhanx_workshop: uniseals
01:20 AM rue_mohr: are those cable seals just on ridgid pipe?
01:20 AM rue_mohr: like, with the rubber gland?
01:21 AM zhanx_workshop: yep i got a bunch of 3/4" free
01:21 AM rue_mohr: hah
01:21 AM zhanx_workshop: and some 1/2"
01:22 AM rue_mohr: never thought of that
01:22 AM zhanx_workshop: only 1 leaked and that was due to me drilling the hole slightly over size
01:23 AM rue_mohr: alwyas good to have a bunch of tire tube on hand
01:23 AM rue_mohr: and a lathe to make custom punches
01:30 AM zhanx_workshop: i just siliconed it
01:43 AM rue_mohr: hmm
01:43 AM rue_mohr: use the uniseals as mechanical
01:43 AM rue_mohr: hey, maybe I have a working jukebox
01:43 AM rue_mohr: I got songs, a stop button, a random button
01:43 AM rue_mohr: volume control
01:43 AM rue_mohr: its auto starting the play engine
01:43 AM rue_mohr: executing the cgi webpages
01:43 AM rue_mohr: that only took like, a few weeks
01:43 AM rue_mohr: see if I can move the hardware around
01:45 AM rue_shop1: zhanx_workshop, you on a frequent poll?
01:46 AM zhanx_workshop: ?
01:46 AM rue_mohr: so
01:47 AM rue_mohr: my morals stop me from doing a lot of things that aren't wrong
01:47 AM rue_mohr: I'm pondering a modern day slave
01:48 AM zhanx_workshop: confused
01:48 AM rue_mohr: work for me here, payment is room+board+a sad amount of money that will never get you enough to go anywhere
01:48 AM rue_mohr: I need reasons this is a bad idea
01:49 AM zhanx_workshop: get a pay raise? stop voting for people that raise taxes?
01:49 AM rue_mohr: no I mean
01:50 AM rue_mohr: hiring what is basically a slave
01:50 AM rue_mohr: its a lock-in helper
01:50 AM zhanx_workshop: oh
01:50 AM zhanx_workshop: NO
01:50 AM zhanx_workshop: bad rue
01:50 AM rue_mohr: yea but it would be someone who knowingly took it
01:52 AM rue_mohr: I'm having a hard time working out what level its wrong when corperate america does it to people everywhere
01:53 AM zhanx_workshop: america is not canada and canada is known to sterilize its natives
01:54 AM rue_mohr: what no
01:54 AM rue_mohr: slave by regard as a situation that a person is trapped in
01:54 AM rue_mohr: not enough money to leave
02:00 AM zhanx_workshop: no a slave has no choice to change it. a non slave can leave and start over, redefining words is bad and demeans slaves
02:00 AM rue_mohr: granted its not like they would be chained
02:00 AM rue_mohr: but its still evil
02:00 AM zhanx_workshop: evil is china, we buy their cheap products knowing that they need suicide nets around the building
02:00 AM rue_mohr: worse than having to work 3 part time jobs that each make you sign a doc saying they can fire you whenever they want if they find out your working for anyone else?
02:04 AM rue_mohr: hmm, need to mount both these drives somehow
02:05 AM zhanx_workshop: ok gonna rebuild the printer the white glue is starting to break loose
02:06 AM rue_mohr: er?
02:06 AM rue_mohr: didn't soak into the plastic?
02:06 AM zhanx_workshop: guess not its been over a year
02:11 AM rue_mohr: hmm
02:11 AM rue_mohr: how do I update the initdisk
02:12 AM zhanx_workshop: grub or?
02:12 AM rue_mohr: update-initramfs
02:13 AM rue_mohr: -u
02:14 AM rue_mohr: I wonder if the labour would be worth having to feed another person
02:14 AM rue_mohr: it should
02:14 AM rue_mohr: didn't plan on making money w/ tho
02:15 AM rue_mohr: I'm gonna screw up this install
02:15 AM rue_mohr: trying to get it to boot all by disk uuid so I can move them to the other machine nice
02:18 AM rue_mohr: zhanx_workshop, typically, If I have a 400w device in a room, and I'm using an AC to pump all the heat out, what might I be looking at for the AC, 500w?
02:20 AM rue_mohr: or is it supposed to take less energy to move it around
02:20 AM rue_mohr: maybe it depends on the thermal diff
02:21 AM rue_mohr: ok
02:21 AM rue_mohr: so
02:21 AM rue_mohr: aside from needing to completely rewrite the jukebox anyhow, it seems to be working
02:50 AM rue_shop1: ok I can relax a bit more
02:50 AM rue_shop1: I'll re-set up the backup system
02:50 AM rue_shop1: have it auto run 1/ mo
02:51 AM rue_shop1: I still ahve all the music tho
02:51 AM rue_shop1: last time I moved them all to a usb key
02:51 AM rue_shop1: it runs off the key
02:51 AM rue_shop1: I took a backup of the key during this
02:52 AM rue_shop1: the system is damaged, but alive
02:52 AM rue_shop1: juke1 ran for like 15 years, almost 24/7 I upgraded the hardware, and in what seems to have been about 4 years, I'v gone thru 4 re-installs due to failures
02:54 AM zhanx_workshop: ok printer printing
02:54 AM rue_shop1: nice
02:54 AM rue_shop1: postscript?
02:54 AM zhanx_workshop: rue thermo load the room?
02:54 AM zhanx_workshop: 400w is one item
02:54 AM rue_shop1: ok testing the random button
02:54 AM rue_shop1: it looks like the banlist was lost, so I'm gonna have to kill/ban songs as they come up again
02:54 AM zhanx_workshop: printing a mini tripod
02:55 AM rue_shop1: haha its only 1am
02:57 AM rue_shop1: I should do another backup of the firewall, home automation, and boiler controller
02:58 AM rue_shop1: huh I dont think random worked
02:58 AM rue_shop1: *sigh*
02:59 AM zhanx_workshop: some how the bed is level first try
02:59 AM zhanx_workshop: must be the fact i am messing with it all the time
03:00 AM rue_shop1: oh yea, I have to fix that up on one of my machines
03:00 AM rue_shop1: the side rails are out
03:03 AM zhanx_workshop: i also reduced the print speed
03:03 AM zhanx_workshop: slower is better for me
03:12 AM rue_shop1: ok I have random back
03:12 AM rue_shop1: I lost the randomizer my bud wrote
03:12 AM rue_shop1: using sort -R
03:22 AM rue_shop1: ok, and I have a current update
03:23 AM rue_shop1: need to redo the ssh keys
03:23 AM rue_shop1: I shoudl resync them on all the machines again
04:50 AM polprog: rue_mohr: software or hardware raid1?
06:36 AM Tom_L: rue_mohr, it's not a new concept. mining towns were built by the mine owners and where the workers worked and shopped. so the owners basically got their ore for free less the cost of building the town
06:37 AM Tom_L: which was probably a tax writeoff anyway
10:05 AM rue_mohr: never ever ever use hardware raid
10:05 AM rue_mohr: the controlers ALWAYS fail, then you have lost the arrray
10:25 AM rue_mohr: https://threeneurons.wordpress.com/miscellaneous-projects/
10:25 AM rue_mohr: want to try the nimo supply
10:26 AM rue_mohr: https://www.instructables.com/id/ATtinyPowerMeter/
10:26 AM rue_mohr: and that
10:28 AM rue_mohr: want to make a laser galv too
10:29 AM Tom_L: talk to capnhindsight in linuxcnc about that
10:29 AM Tom_L: i think he works with them
10:31 AM rue_mohr: will he be willing to day how to make them tho
10:32 AM Tom_L: i dunno if he makes em but he's knowledgeable about them i'm pretty sure
10:32 AM Tom_L: wrong capn
10:33 AM Tom_L: i haven't seen him around yet today
10:35 AM rue_mohr: hmm, bend light with air mass differences?
10:43 AM rue_mohr: I have these dead samsung phones too, I'd somehow bet there is info for driving their screens
10:45 AM rue_mohr: I like the bar meters instead of the needle
10:45 AM rue_mohr: so much for a "just get it done" power supply
10:45 AM rue_mohr: I failed again
10:46 AM rue_mohr: hmm
10:46 AM rue_mohr: what if I did a mask against a projected line
10:46 AM rue_mohr: had the volmeter mech just move a half cup with a little slit
10:55 AM Tom_L: your projects never stay simple
10:57 AM rue_mohr: I suppose thats the bit I need to work on
10:58 AM Tom_L: but if the distraction teaches you something you wanted to know then meh
10:58 AM rue_mohr: well, thats the grey zone
10:59 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Brass_cup/Brass_Cups2.jpg
10:59 AM Tom_L: i just wanted to know
11:00 AM rue_mohr: ? did you make another set?
11:00 AM Tom_L: no
11:00 AM rue_mohr: oh the whole thing
11:00 AM rue_mohr: heh
11:00 AM rue_mohr: forest trees
11:01 AM rue_mohr: I have another idea too
11:02 AM rue_mohr: a full on colour graphic lcd with a sliding vernier like display for the value
11:02 AM rue_mohr: say, the upper bar for the course scale and a lower bar for the fine
11:02 AM rue_mohr: they would both side to give you the value at a middle marker
11:03 AM rue_mohr: you effectivly get a really wide, high res display, but its not digits
11:03 AM rue_mohr: so flapping doesn't become imposable to read
11:10 AM rue_mohr: https://www.instructables.com/id/ATtinyPowerMeter/
11:10 AM rue_mohr: https://github.com/moononournation/ATtinyPowerMeter/blob/master/ssd1306.cpp
11:11 AM rue_mohr: I have the parts in a bin, I gonna do it
11:11 AM rue_mohr: after breakfast
11:18 AM aandrew: well
11:18 AM aandrew: rescued an r/c plane from a tree, that took about an hour because he managed to put it in a branch we could not get to and could not easily shake
11:19 AM aandrew: rue_mohr: agreed on hardware raid - although my arrays are getting big enough that I think I'm going to use hw raid (and have two spare cards on the shelf)
11:20 AM aandrew: rue_mohr: neat idea as long as the refresh rate is fast enough
11:24 AM rue_mohr: I know with compaq controllers you cant just swap the hardware, they have NV ram that stores key info
11:27 AM rue_mohr: hmm I need a shower
11:27 AM rue_mohr: did I eat breakfast?
11:27 AM rue_mohr: arg, this platform needs way too much maintenance
11:27 AM rue_mohr: hmm
11:28 AM rue_mohr: I suppose I could kinda do the multiscale with the neon displays...
11:28 AM rue_mohr: take 5A
11:28 AM rue_mohr: use one for 0-5A and the other maybe 0-1A or even 0-0.5A
11:30 AM rue_mohr: on the large one you should be able to tell which side of the amp your in
11:30 AM rue_mohr: hmm
11:30 AM rue_mohr: even then, my interest is in the voltage display
11:32 AM rue_mohr: say 0-25V
11:32 AM rue_mohr: so maybe 0-1V on the fine
11:33 AM rue_mohr: which technically gives me to 0.005V
11:33 AM rue_mohr: hmmmm
11:34 AM rue_mohr: but the neon plasma displays are stuck as bar display
11:34 AM rue_mohr: s
11:34 AM rue_mohr: which means you cant see variations as well
11:39 AM aandrew: I really like the fibre dot display you were working on
11:39 AM rue_mohr: i just drew up a button panel to try to sequence it
11:40 AM rue_mohr: tho, its based on adjusting it
11:40 AM rue_mohr: I'm wondering if a "yes no" would be a better idea
11:40 AM rue_mohr: you say no till you have the next one, when you say yes, it moves to the next
11:41 AM rue_mohr: whats that, at worst (64^2)/2 button presses?
11:41 AM rue_mohr: I also need a way to get the array out of it
11:41 AM rue_mohr: so I need to hook up some serial
11:42 AM rue_mohr: its serial line is occupied by one of hte row/column signals
11:42 AM rue_mohr: its a nice bright little thing, shame about the leakage
11:42 AM rue_mohr: black glue next time
11:43 AM rue_mohr: ok that was breakfast,
11:43 AM rue_mohr: shower and power meter
11:44 AM rue_mohr: then maybe fiber display
11:57 AM aandrew: rue_mohr: I'd use a webcam pointed at it and a little openCV learning :-)
11:57 AM aandrew: I've been meaning to get better at OpenCV
12:15 PM rue_mohr: :)
12:15 PM rue_mohr: I pondered
02:11 PM rue_mohr: sweet I got it
02:11 PM rue_mohr: now I want to see what I can make the lcd do
02:13 PM Tom_L: got what?
02:13 PM Tom_L: make a spinner display so you can project it on the wall
02:13 PM rue_shop1: that tiny85 project
02:14 PM rue_shop1: some challanges with arduino
02:14 PM polprog: evening
02:14 PM rue_shop1: which their prettymuch just using as an ide
02:14 PM Tom_L: afternoon
02:14 PM rue_shop1: Tom_L, can you confirm, with what you know, if a No14 genuine jaccobs chuck takes a "#3" key?
02:15 PM rue_shop1: I found a few site that implied it
02:15 PM rue_shop1: FOR SOME REASON jaccobs doesn't list the size of the key for their chucks
02:16 PM Tom_L: http://www.jacobschuck.com/MagentoShare/media/documents/jacobs-technical-information.pdf
02:17 PM Tom_L: mine has a #2 taper but on the other end (chuck end) it has a short taper and i don't know what taper it is
02:17 PM rue_shop1: the doc I found didn't list it in the tech
02:17 PM Tom_L: dunno if that pdf does or not but it's for their chucks
02:17 PM rue_shop1: trying to open it now...
02:18 PM rue_shop1: wrong document
02:18 PM rue_shop1: thats cnc ... tool holders
02:19 PM Tom_L: http://www.jacobschuck.com/keyed-chucks
02:19 PM rue_shop1: yea I did the website, they dont say
02:19 PM Tom_L: find it and it will likely have a data sheet there
02:19 PM rue_shop1: nope
02:19 PM rue_shop1: html spec list that doesn't have it listed
02:21 PM Tom_L: can you measure the taper?
02:21 PM Tom_L: compare that with mt specs
02:21 PM rue_shop1: I just need to know what size key to use
02:21 PM Tom_L: idk
02:21 PM rue_shop1: its a 14N
02:21 PM rue_shop1: true-real-genuine
02:21 PM rue_shop1: I need to get a key for it, I want to make sure I get the right one
02:22 PM rue_shop1: dont want one of those 4 way cludges
02:22 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/Jacobs-JCM30221-14N-Chuck-Key/dp/B0776MHZQN
02:22 PM rue_shop1: yea they dont really say
02:22 PM Tom_L: measure the pilot hole
02:23 PM Tom_L: stick a drill in it
02:23 PM rue_shop1: 5/32
02:23 PM rue_shop1: already know
02:23 PM Tom_L: not 5/16" ?
02:23 PM rue_shop1: er, right
02:23 PM rue_shop1: "8mm"
02:24 PM Tom_L: i really don't know. there's a bazillion different sizes
02:24 PM rue_shop1: yea
02:24 PM rue_shop1: the one from the lathe sort fits
02:24 PM rue_shop1: its a bit tight
02:24 PM rue_shop1: but it looks like the lathe key might have an extra tooth
02:24 PM rue_shop1: did a bit of digging yesterday
02:24 PM Tom_L: is there a pn on the chuck?
02:25 PM rue_shop1: I got 12 teeth on the lathe key, most keys seem to have 11
02:25 PM rue_shop1: its a jacobs 14N
02:25 PM Tom_L: https://cloudfront.zoro.com/img/zoro_tips/drill_chuck_key_eZtip.pdf
02:26 PM Tom_L: https://www.zoro.com/chuck-keys-and-holders/c/5858/
02:27 PM Tom_L: zoro # G2452554
02:28 PM Tom_L: type K3
02:28 PM rue_shop1: yea, ok #3 key
02:28 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/K3-Chuck-Key-Sold-Each/dp/B00Y3HROVE/ref=pd_lpo_263_t_1/147-9013642-7378863?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00Y3HROVE&pd_rd_r=01ac52b6-a740-40b6-8aeb-878d4a1bb79a&pd_rd_w=onLm1&pd_rd_wg=Pxc4b&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=5CHCR33KWCVT5HTTYAZM&psc=1&refRID=5CHCR33KWCVT5HTTYAZM
02:28 PM rue_shop1: same direction I was comming up with
02:29 PM Tom_L: i've got some that fit and some that don't
02:29 PM Tom_L: got a 400 rpm arm killer i use a screwdriver and hammer on
02:29 PM rue_shop1: :)
02:30 PM Tom_L: for their intended purpose of course!
02:31 PM Tom_L: at least that zoro site lists the jacobs pn
02:32 PM Tom_L: also looks like one of their most widely used keys
02:36 PM rue_mohr: I can grab a #3 from almost anywhere on amazon
02:36 PM rue_mohr: or china
02:36 PM rue_mohr: tho I'd like something faster
02:53 PM rue_mohr: well gee, thats kinda nice to have off my todo list
03:50 PM Tom_L: YAY!!! he finished one thing
03:50 PM Tom_L: :)
04:38 PM Tom_L: i misread your first request and was looking up mounting tapers :)
04:54 PM rue_shop1: ah
04:54 PM rue_shop1: fit a bit more stuff on the driveway pillars
04:55 PM rue_shop1: the jukebox is working again
05:01 PM aandrew: oh wow, astrix did an album with infected mushroom
05:01 PM aandrew: really good thumping trance
05:01 PM aandrew: the kind of bass that drives your ears 6 inches into your skull
05:02 PM aandrew: unrelated: my son was supposed to dig a 4x3x3' lxwxd hole for irrigation. I made the first of the two boxes for concrete forms and discovered he dug maybe 3x3x1.5'
05:02 PM aandrew: *sigh*
05:03 PM aandrew: also: my backyard is full of robins (like 26) -- and what I think is just a confused woodpecker
05:03 PM aandrew: it's bene like this for the last 6 days or so. I'm used to seeing them around in the early-mid summer but not this time of year
05:19 PM rue_shop1: huh
05:19 PM rue_shop1: I cant build this power supply
05:19 PM rue_shop1: casue I cant get myself to settle on an interface layout
05:19 PM rue_shop1: I'm totally failing
05:19 PM rue_shop1: I cant do it in a way I dont think I'll like
05:20 PM rue_shop1: and I seem to want huge screens on a small face area
05:20 PM rue_shop1: cant have both...
05:21 PM rue_shop1: I need to get better at making project cases
05:21 PM rue_shop1: but I'd have made and rejected like 8 on this project so far
05:22 PM Tom_L: i thought about milling some
05:22 PM Tom_L: like the saleae case
05:44 PM aandrew: yeah I really like saleae's cases too
06:01 PM Tom_L: i think the one he's talking about is alot bigger
06:07 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170175.jpg
06:07 PM rue_mohr: more candidates
06:07 PM rue_mohr: see if a layout will work on any of them
06:08 PM rue_mohr: falling asleep
06:08 PM rue_mohr: dunno if I should take a nap or force myself to stay up
06:09 PM rue_mohr: think I'll force
06:09 PM rue_mohr: ok
06:10 PM Tom_L: i'm goin for the nap...
06:13 PM polprog: ill just leave these here
06:13 PM polprog: tubetime made me do it
06:13 PM polprog: https://polprog.net/rozne1/ircjunk/various/hct04_inverting_opamp.JPG
06:13 PM polprog: https://polprog.net/rozne1/ircjunk/various/hct04_integrator.JPG
06:13 PM polprog: why am i up so late
06:14 PM polprog: i have driving school at 1130 tomorrow
06:14 PM polprog: :/
06:14 PM rue_mohr: heh
06:14 PM rue_mohr: polprog, thanks, I didn't want to have to play with that one myself
06:14 PM rue_mohr: I'm supposed to be workign on other stuff
06:15 PM polprog: heh
06:15 PM polprog: well, lets agree that im playing on your behalf
06:15 PM rue_mohr: :)
06:16 PM rue_mohr: ch2 is the bottom, right?
06:16 PM rue_mohr: yea ok
06:16 PM rue_mohr: I see the note there now
06:17 PM rue_mohr: but something is odd
06:25 PM polprog: what is it?
06:27 PM rue_mohr: thats the pwm -> analog filter
06:27 PM rue_mohr: for the bias voltage
06:29 PM polprog: wait, 4069?
06:29 PM polprog: huh i dont have these... i think
06:29 PM polprog: i have 7404 only
06:30 PM rue_mohr: yea, its cmos cmos
06:30 PM rue_mohr: I got 'e
06:30 PM rue_mohr: m
06:30 PM polprog: oh wow i have more 4000 series than i anticipated
06:30 PM polprog: i need to go thru them
06:31 PM rue_mohr: oh dear its going to take a LOT of tea to keep me up
06:32 PM polprog: i got 4001, these should be simple enough to be analogue
06:32 PM polprog: i mea
06:32 PM polprog: "analogue"
06:32 PM polprog: you know what i mean
06:34 PM rue_shop1: the 4069 is darn near just two fets
06:34 PM polprog: yeah
06:35 PM polprog: i gotta go to sleep
06:35 PM polprog: maybe ill haul my butt to get 4069 tomorrow..
06:37 PM polprog: goodnight
06:41 PM rue_shop1: assembling here
06:41 PM rue_shop1: I'll play with this lcd too
06:55 PM rue_shop1: its knee is somewhere around 8khz
07:23 PM aandrew: rue_shop1: lol the 1541 power supply would be pretty cool
07:23 PM aandrew: max rating: 15.4V 1A
07:24 PM aandrew: or if you're up for it, 15V 41A
07:24 PM rue_shop1: hah
07:24 PM aandrew: 600W might be a bit much to stuff into that case though
07:24 PM rue_shop1: I'm going linear, so I need a 100W heatsink
07:24 PM rue_shop1: dont wnat to do even that in that case
07:24 PM rue_shop1: or at the back or it
07:24 PM rue_shop1: which is kinda roundie anyhow
07:25 PM aandrew: you'd need water cooling
07:25 PM rue_shop1: hahaha
07:25 PM aandrew: if I remember correctly you've got a water issue on your property so you could take advantage
07:25 PM aandrew: and if you used enough 555s you could have a sauna/hottub with the wastewater
07:25 PM rue_shop1: heh
07:26 PM rue_shop1: oh 555
07:26 PM rue_shop1: I need to design something up for a customer at work
07:26 PM rue_shop1: they need an alart system that makes two tones
07:26 PM rue_shop1: I worked out its easiest to use a PA horn, amp and a tone gen array
07:26 PM aandrew: not an 8-pin AVR?
07:27 PM rue_shop1: thoguht about it
07:27 PM rue_shop1: *but*
07:27 PM rue_shop1: I need pitch for tone 1,
07:27 PM rue_shop1: and tone 2 is pulsed, so it needs freq, duration, and pitch
07:27 PM rue_shop1: then they both need volume
07:27 PM rue_shop1: thats 6 pots
07:27 PM aandrew: an H-bridge driving the PA horn sounds doable
07:28 PM aandrew: ok, so you'd have to use a 14-pin device
07:28 PM rue_shop1: oh, I was just gonna use an audio amp
07:28 PM rue_shop1: but you might have a point
07:28 PM rue_shop1: well its all pretty analog
07:28 PM rue_shop1: but
07:28 PM rue_shop1: hmm,
07:28 PM aandrew: I just want to see a watercooled 1541, honestly
07:28 PM rue_shop1: haha
07:32 PM rue_shop1: well... lets not leave you dry on that
07:32 PM aandrew: hey-o!
08:12 PM rue_mohr: I'm posting it via twitter tho, I'm sure others will love this
08:12 PM rue_mohr: cuase crazy retro... ugh
08:15 PM rue_mohr: posted :)
08:17 PM * Tom_L sees a blank image
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170184.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170185.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170186.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170187.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170188.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170189.jpg
08:18 PM rue_mohr: the server was being funny...
08:19 PM rue_mohr: it keeps hanging on the uploads, I dont know why
08:22 PM rue_mohr: sad enough, its not too apparent thats an actual rad
08:22 PM rue_mohr: oh well
08:22 PM Tom_L: huh
08:23 PM rue_mohr: now that I put a blue led in it, think anyone wants me to ship it from canada?
08:23 PM rue_mohr: (you cant have water cooling without a blue power led)
08:27 PM Tom_L: blue is a cool color
08:32 PM rue_mohr: yes
08:33 PM rue_mohr: :)
08:33 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, great distraction, thanks
08:33 PM rue_mohr: (those fans are spinning)
08:46 PM rue_mohr: oh right, case for power supply
08:54 PM rue_mohr: aparently I just want really really flat
08:54 PM rue_mohr: which means wide
08:54 PM rue_mohr: cause otherwise no room for interface
08:55 PM Tom_L: how wide for the display?
08:55 PM Tom_L: too wide and your eyes will strain
08:55 PM rue_mohr: I have two sizes of meters
08:56 PM rue_mohr: and honestly I dont even want to use them, I want to use some kinda 1:10 ratio lcd or led array
08:56 PM rue_mohr: the neon bar displays have great size and resolution
08:56 PM rue_mohr: but because there bar and not dot, you cant see values jitter as easily
08:57 PM rue_mohr: and thats why I'm not using digits
08:57 PM rue_mohr: did you see the fiber optic led bar graph Im playing with?
08:58 PM Tom_L: no
08:58 PM Tom_L: https://www.shutterstock.com/search/power%2Bstation%2Bcontrol%2Bpanel
08:58 PM Tom_L: maybe some ideas will come from that
08:59 PM Tom_L: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/digital-indicators-control-room-96269366
08:59 PM rue_mohr: huh, this is the best still
08:59 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170123.jpg
09:00 PM rue_mohr: 64 led array, piped into a thin line
09:00 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:00 PM Tom_L: somewhat similar to that last pic i posted
09:00 PM rue_mohr: the power station meters are pretty crude
09:00 PM Tom_L: combination of bar and readout
09:01 PM Tom_L: it was a place to start
09:01 PM rue_mohr: you saw the neon plasma ones I hae tho eh?
09:01 PM rue_mohr: 200 lines over 10cm
09:01 PM rue_mohr: still kinda curde, I want to see 1%
09:02 PM rue_mohr: er maybe less
09:02 PM rue_mohr: ah 0.2%
09:08 PM Tom_L: well that brass cup proved out my thread macro 100%
09:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Smartcam/THREADMILL_MULTI_ARC.MCL
09:14 PM Tom_L: final
09:16 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: :-) that's awesome
09:19 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: control panel idea: https://giphy.com/embed/3o7aCTNI7zFMoalIbK
09:25 PM rue_mohr: hah
09:28 PM rue_mohr: stepper motor and mirror?
09:29 PM rue_mohr: I have some 400 step/rev motor from hard drive head postiioners
09:29 PM rue_mohr: if used with microsteper drivers...
09:41 PM rue_shop1: omg
09:41 PM rue_shop1: it happened
09:41 PM rue_shop1: I'v gone around in a huge flipping circle
09:42 PM rue_shop1: one of the cases I came down to gave me that dejavu feeling...
09:42 PM rue_shop1: sure enough... on the project shelf
09:42 PM rue_shop1: is THE SAME CASE
09:42 PM rue_shop1: filled with parts for a POWER SUPPLY
09:45 PM Tom_L: :)
09:46 PM Tom_L: it gets worse
09:52 PM rue_mohr: I'm almost exactly in my previous footsteps
09:52 PM rue_mohr: which means one thing, this is the answer
09:52 PM rue_mohr: I'm on the right path, I just need to finish walking it
09:53 PM Tom_L: just take a few more steps than you did last time
09:54 PM Tom_L: finished cleaning up my thread macro
09:54 PM Tom_L: wonder what other shapes i could do to be handy
09:55 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170195.jpg
09:55 PM rue_mohr: see the case to the right? same one
09:56 PM Tom_L: :)
09:56 PM Tom_L: hefty coil
09:56 PM rue_mohr: behind it is the other option I was looking at
09:56 PM rue_mohr: toroid transformer, 7A iirc
09:56 PM Tom_L: i was thinking about removing one of the 3 transformers from my control box
09:56 PM Tom_L: and just using 2
09:57 PM Tom_L: i doubt i need all 3
09:57 PM Tom_L: i could probably get by with 1
09:57 PM rue_mohr: have a clamp on meter>?
09:57 PM Tom_L: no
09:57 PM Tom_L: i could leave the row of caps although i made the boards in 3rds
09:58 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Control2.jpg
09:58 PM Tom_L: i think they may be 6A ea?
09:59 PM Tom_L: might leave me room to put the vfd inside the case instead of outside
09:59 PM Tom_L: i think i'll probably put it outside anyway just due to the connectors
09:59 PM Tom_L: i'll wait and see when it arrives
10:00 PM rue_mohr: vfd will need a bunch of air tho
10:00 PM Tom_L: there's a 120mm? fan in the upper right corner
10:00 PM Tom_L: vented from the bottom
10:01 PM Tom_L: it's a pretty tight box
10:01 PM Tom_L: most of the stuff on the door can go
10:01 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Control1.jpg
10:01 PM Tom_L: left and bottom right boards are all spindle
10:02 PM Tom_L: some of those relays are already gone
10:14 PM Tom_L: the left board is purely an interface board for the right one. the right one uses a floating gnd
10:26 PM Tom_L: how to copy a utube video to local?
10:27 PM rue_mohr: changes almost daily as youtube shoots them down
10:30 PM Tom_L: vlc
10:31 PM Tom_L: i'll try it later.. no linux box up right now
10:32 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: heh so you had the idea to build a slim power supply years ago and forgot?
10:36 PM rue_mohr: no I put it aside cause I wanted to make simple one
10:36 PM rue_mohr: and I got too complex
10:57 PM aandrew: Tom_L: I'm a HUGE fan of youtube0dl.py
10:57 PM aandrew: youtube-dl.py I mean
11:22 PM rue_shop2: I'm still stuck
11:23 PM rue_shop2: I have a switching supply that does 19.5V 6.5A and a transformer that does 24VAC 7.75A
11:23 PM rue_shop2: I'd LIKE to have a peak of 24-30V from the supply
11:23 PM rue_shop2: 5A is a fine limit
11:26 PM rue_shop2: ok idea
11:41 PM rue_mohr: I ahve a 19.5V power supply, a 20V volt meter, a 5V ammeter and they all fit to a particular case
11:42 PM rue_mohr: the transformer also fits in the same case, but there is no point in combining them becasue I dotn have a meter to suit
11:51 PM rue_mohr: so, they only make chrome for 64 bit linux
11:51 PM rue_mohr: that must be becasue they need it to chew up more than 2G of memory at once
11:51 PM rue_mohr: like, per thread
11:56 PM rue_mohr: maybe I should just cancel netflix
11:56 PM rue_mohr: then again, trying to find something good on it takes just as long as trying to pirate a movie anyhow