#garfield Logs

Sep 05 2020

12:00 AM rue_shop2: but not stickey
12:06 AM rue_shop2: I like stuff that chips away nice
12:06 AM Tom_L: it grabs more
12:06 AM Tom_L: but it's not sticky
01:11 AM rue_mohr: ok, I have linux installed on the raid set
01:11 AM rue_mohr: and I'v moved the files to the raid array
01:12 AM rue_mohr: so, now I can get the jukebox sofware back on
01:26 AM zhanx_workshop_: was messing with the flow rate on the pump
04:04 AM polprog: morning
04:04 AM polprog: ive rearranged the bench
04:04 AM polprog: put in a second screen and the scope went on the overhead shelf
04:34 AM rue_mohr: :)
04:34 AM rue_mohr: been playing with that neon plasma bar graph
04:34 AM rue_mohr: make up a driver board for it
08:21 AM polprog: i totally forgot about the mystery japanese Socket 5 SBC
08:21 AM polprog: its missing two ROMs though. unbotanium squared
11:31 AM rue_mohr: hmm
11:31 AM rue_mohr: its a motherboard tho?
11:32 AM rue_mohr: find some phoenix bios chips, jab 'em in there
11:32 AM rue_mohr: use 386 if your not sure
11:33 AM rue_mohr: overcast day
11:33 AM rue_mohr: suppose I dont have to feel guilty for not having put the laundry on the line
11:33 AM rue_mohr: so, whats my focus this weekend
11:35 AM rue_mohr: wow the update of the jukebox was a bit old
11:36 AM rue_mohr: 2016
11:39 AM Tom_L: cobb maker err i mean stone mason
11:39 AM rue_mohr: they are looking good
11:47 AM rue_mohr: actually
11:47 AM rue_mohr: your right, I wanted to make some foam cobbs to cast in aluminum
11:47 AM rue_mohr: not completely sure on how, but I'm not too into it right now
11:49 AM Tom_L: you gonna try brass?
11:50 AM rue_mohr: not yet
11:50 AM rue_mohr: I suppose I could do brass with the steel pot
11:50 AM Tom_L: probably harder to find scrap than aluminum
11:50 AM rue_mohr: but I tried some in my kiln and it turned into a funny pile of oxides
11:50 AM Tom_L: quite a bit hotter too ehh?
11:50 AM rue_mohr: hmm
12:11 PM rue_mohr: gradually re-assembling the jukebox...
02:46 PM rue_mohr: ok, prettymuch down to volume control
02:47 PM rue_mohr: but I gotta redo this
02:47 PM rue_mohr: this is insane
02:47 PM rue_mohr: even if I just wrap it in php or soemthing
03:31 PM rue_mohr: ok, permissions issue with /dev/mixer
03:36 PM rue_mohr: and the Playmanager (backend bit) wont run
03:37 PM rue_mohr: oh dear
03:37 PM rue_mohr: there was some issue I fixed with the bash commands that remove lines from the play queue
03:37 PM rue_mohr: this is painfull
03:38 PM rue_mohr: oh no, there is no stop button
03:42 PM rue_mohr: oooooooh
03:42 PM rue_mohr: there were two buttons added in after this backup
03:42 PM rue_mohr: damnit
03:42 PM rue_shop1: maybe I should try to recover the old one for a while
03:42 PM rue_mohr: an auto backup every 6 months would be great
03:58 PM Tom_L: backups are as good as the date they were made
04:04 PM rue_shop1: I made a lot of changes since
04:04 PM rue_shop1: didn't really notice
04:07 PM rue_shop2: I'd changed the system over to use a usb drive too
04:07 PM rue_shop2: oh so much to do
04:08 PM rue_shop2: need something I can focus on
04:08 PM polprog: evening
04:08 PM polprog: got the jukebox running?
04:08 PM rue_shop2: no
04:08 PM Tom_L: rue_shop2, the one of you has failed the many of you
04:08 PM Tom_L: you haven't cloned yet
04:08 PM rue_shop2: there were a lot of changes since the last backup
04:09 PM rue_shop2: I should do the drillpress
04:10 PM Tom_L: i hate waiting
04:12 PM polprog: i was fixing windows all the time today
04:16 PM rue_shop2: tried to pick up a box of stuff to put it away and the bottom dropped out
04:16 PM rue_shop2: its going to be one of those ... weeks?
04:17 PM polprog: i carried out more scrap to the basement, fished out some PCBs with interesting components
04:17 PM polprog: ive put a second monitor in place of the scope but ill have to get a DP-VGA cable
04:18 PM polprog: or get a hdmi capable screen
04:59 PM rue_shop1: building boxes
06:07 PM rue_shop1: lots of nothing getting done today
06:34 PM Tom_L: is that so unusual?
06:54 PM rue_mohr: its frustrating to spend a whole day working like crazy so you can get back to 0
07:08 PM Tom_L: i may go see what i can accomplish in a bit
07:09 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, i feel that way just about every day of the week
07:09 PM Tom_L: one in a while a spindle motor etc will come along to make me smile for a few min
07:10 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:10 PM rue_mohr: I'm really low on energy too
07:10 PM rue_mohr: I should change the drillpress
07:10 PM rue_mohr: I got the boxes made and the pullies put away
07:11 PM rue_mohr: damnit
07:11 PM rue_mohr: the jukebox player program is messed up
07:11 PM rue_mohr: I had fixed it, they changed how one of the programs works
07:12 PM rue_mohr: that it uses to edit the playlist files as it goes
07:13 PM rue_mohr: i HATE redoing work
07:13 PM Tom_L: i need to pull all the control off the wall and mount a sheet behind it so i'll have something to attach the vfd to when it arrives
07:13 PM Tom_L: right now it's bolted to the studs
08:46 PM rue_shop1: ok, drillpress installed
08:46 PM rue_mohr: I hope it works out, that was hard
08:48 PM Tom_L: didn't get anything done here
08:49 PM Tom_L: i wonder if i should run the vfd thru the main power switch on my current control
08:49 PM Tom_L: ?
08:49 PM Tom_L: i didn't put a main relay on it
08:50 PM rue_mohr: dunno
08:51 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170141.jpg
08:51 PM Tom_L: yeah, i haven't had to deal with that yet
08:52 PM Tom_L: why?
08:52 PM Tom_L: is that a floor drillpresss?
08:52 PM rue_mohr: the table on that one is nice, you can bolt something down anywhere and position it
08:52 PM rue_mohr: no, see the table its on
08:52 PM rue_mohr: its a "somewhat too tall" drillpress
08:52 PM Tom_L: i see the base i think
08:52 PM rue_mohr: its also got 20 speeds
08:53 PM Tom_L: i wish i had that arbor press
08:53 PM rue_mohr: so I can go lower for the big bits
08:53 PM Tom_L: mine is too but i only use like 2
08:53 PM rue_mohr: I missed the pipe with the skill saw
08:53 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Drillpress.jpg
08:53 PM rue_mohr: then hit it with a knife I used on the last bit of wood
08:54 PM rue_mohr: it would be nice to have a real floor one, but I dont know where I would put it
08:54 PM Tom_L: same here
08:54 PM Tom_L: i really wish i had a band saw
08:54 PM rue_mohr: yours almost looks the same size
08:54 PM Tom_L: yeah
08:54 PM Tom_L: i moved it from there after i put the mill there
08:55 PM Tom_L: it's over where the sherline used to be
08:55 PM rue_mohr: my little one has been really good
08:55 PM rue_mohr: and I'v not dont pcb's on this big one yet
08:55 PM rue_mohr: done
08:55 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Z_Column2.jpg
08:55 PM Tom_L: box on the left was the sherline
08:56 PM rue_mohr: yea, I'm gonna have some icecream
08:56 PM Tom_L: just did
08:56 PM rue_mohr: ordered a new tstat for the fridge, I'm tired or resetting it all the time
08:57 PM Tom_L: i fixed a closet door, that was the highlite of my day
08:57 PM rue_mohr: I did a lot of yard cleanup
08:57 PM rue_mohr: got a bit further on the jukebox
08:58 PM rue_mohr: but I'm really put off by the amount of work I need to do to finish restoring it
08:58 PM Tom_L: i should have left that bit on that 4" column
08:58 PM Tom_L: i really wish i had more Z
08:58 PM rue_mohr: heh
08:58 PM Tom_L: not too bad for the first serious build though
08:59 PM Tom_L: i'm still pretty much on target for it's finish
09:01 PM Tom_L: i do wish i had a couple more ends for that smaller drag chain i have left
09:06 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, where did you get the arbor press?
09:07 PM rue_mohr: my doorstep
09:07 PM rue_mohr: someone dropped it off
09:07 PM Tom_L: heh lucky
09:07 PM rue_mohr: I think I'd put out feelers
09:07 PM rue_mohr: its odd having things like that dropped off and you dont know what the story is
09:08 PM Tom_L: i'll have the keyslots done at my friends shop since he's got the cutters and a big press
09:08 PM Tom_L: but having stuff like that around would be handy
09:09 PM rue_mohr: you part of a machineist network downthere?
09:09 PM Tom_L: one of my good friends had a large cnc shop before he retired
09:09 PM rue_mohr: cool
09:09 PM Tom_L: he still does stuff for them (he bought back 2 cncs) and all the manual tools you'd ever need
09:10 PM Tom_L: mill, lathe etc
09:10 PM Tom_L: 25hp compressor
09:10 PM Tom_L: it was his 2nd shop before he built the big final one
09:11 PM Tom_L: we help each other from time to time
09:11 PM Tom_L: i wired up all his machines when he started out
09:11 PM Tom_L: data, not 3 phase
09:11 PM Tom_L: he's why i bought smartcam
09:12 PM rue_mohr: I'd be curious to know the layout of a shop from someone with a background like that
09:12 PM Tom_L: and i worked for him off and on for a bit to help us both out
09:12 PM rue_mohr: I have all the mechanical stuff crammed in that one section
09:12 PM rue_mohr: well, the bandsaws are under the house
09:12 PM rue_mohr: and the grinder/sanders are outside
09:12 PM rue_mohr: and the press
09:12 PM Tom_L: his race car sits in the middle :)
09:13 PM rue_mohr: yike
09:13 PM Tom_L: his lathe was there when he had it
09:13 PM Tom_L: a cnc on each side of the shop
09:13 PM Tom_L: the bridgeport and southbend lathe are in the back corner
09:13 PM Tom_L: next to a bunch of toolboxes and tool ing
09:14 PM Tom_L: he had more in there but that's what he got back
09:14 PM Tom_L: he kept the manual machines all along
09:15 PM Tom_L: he had an industrial bandsaw but now he got a grizzly
09:15 PM Tom_L: regular chop saw
09:36 PM rue_mohr: ok put the stuff back on the bench, if it fits
09:59 PM rue_shop1: hmm
09:59 PM rue_shop1: I need soemthing I can concentrate on that will work
10:01 PM zhanx_workshop: i need a pizza oven
10:01 PM Tom_L: rue_shop1, like this? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0JVJsPpg1-8/hqdefault.jpg
10:07 PM rue_shop2: no, something productive
10:08 PM Tom_L: awww damn
10:08 PM rue_shop2: I'm releived to have that drill press installed tho
10:08 PM Tom_L: wall mounted holder for your drill holder
10:08 PM rue_shop2: I think that waited 2 years
10:09 PM rue_shop2: I'm not supposed to store the large bits in a pile like that?
10:09 PM Tom_L: i've got 3 sources for drills
10:10 PM Tom_L: a box full, a partial bad set and my really good complete set
10:10 PM Tom_L: number letter fraction
10:10 PM Tom_L: oh and a drawer full of larger oddball ones
10:10 PM rue_shop2: I have a number/letter set (which has imperial in it that I dont use)
10:10 PM Tom_L: along with a pile of reamers
10:10 PM rue_shop2: I have an imperial set, that I keep populated
10:11 PM rue_shop2: and I have a metic set
10:11 PM rue_shop2: I have a bag of new new imperial and metric spares
10:11 PM rue_shop2: and a box in the back of dull and broken ones
10:11 PM rue_shop2: did you see the box I made for my reamer set?
10:11 PM rue_shop2: the wood one?
10:12 PM Tom_L: no
10:12 PM rue_shop2: oh
10:12 PM Tom_L: i don't have a full set of reamers, just ones i've needed
10:12 PM Tom_L: a few metric and imperial
10:12 PM rue_shop2: cnc, I had to get help it was a bit too big
10:12 PM Tom_L: latest was the 14mm for the pullies i'm gonna get
10:15 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170142.jpg
10:15 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1170143.jpg
10:16 PM Tom_L: fancy box
10:16 PM Tom_L: kinda like my calipers one
10:16 PM rue_mohr: 2mm thru 10mm
10:16 PM rue_mohr: I did it from scrap
10:16 PM Tom_L: same
10:16 PM rue_mohr: there is a follow some ways down the road with a larger cnc who was able to cut it for me
10:17 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/calipers/Mitutoyo2.jpg
10:17 PM Tom_L: you saw that i think
10:17 PM rue_mohr: hah no
10:17 PM Tom_L: 8"
10:18 PM rue_mohr: are the hinges counter by their close distance?
10:18 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:18 PM rue_mohr: heh nice
10:18 PM Tom_L: pretty much
10:18 PM Tom_L: all cnc'd
10:18 PM rue_mohr: yea
10:19 PM rue_mohr: did you design it up?
10:19 PM Tom_L: of course
10:19 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/calipers/mitutoyo.jpg
10:19 PM Tom_L: not the final version
10:20 PM Tom_L: i swear you need to load it
10:22 PM rue_mohr: I need to get with a z axis for by big cnc
10:22 PM rue_mohr: and move it to the deck
10:25 PM Tom_L: was that box walnut?
10:28 PM Tom_L: how did you program that one?
10:31 PM rue_mohr: 2.5d
10:32 PM Tom_L: my first one was walnut
10:32 PM Tom_L: then the calipers died
10:33 PM rue_mohr: no, the drive is f***ed
10:34 PM Tom_L: digital
10:34 PM Tom_L: part of the scale died. it would skip then be off from that point
10:34 PM rue_mohr: I'll try chilling it
10:35 PM rue_mohr: it perks up the magnetics
10:35 PM Tom_L: oh your player
10:35 PM rue_mohr: a bit
10:35 PM rue_mohr: the jukebox yea
10:35 PM rue_mohr: if I can read it once I'm golden
10:35 PM rue_mohr: while [ "$(cat $PLAYDIR/stop)" = "" ]; do
10:35 PM rue_mohr: ## Find a song to play
10:35 PM rue_mohr: for curUsr in $(ls userlist.*)
10:35 PM rue_mohr: do
10:35 PM rue_mohr: ## first line into current song file
10:35 PM rue_mohr: if [ "$(sed -n '1,1p' $curUsr)" != "" ] ; then
10:36 PM rue_mohr: sed -n '1,1p' $curUsr > $PLAYDIR/cur_song
10:36 PM rue_mohr: ## rest of them back in the userfile (yuk..)
10:36 PM rue_mohr: tail +2 $curUsr > "Tmp"$curUsr
10:36 PM rue_mohr: cp "Tmp"$curUsr $curUsr
10:36 PM rue_mohr: if [ "$QUIET" != "yes" ]; then
10:36 PM rue_mohr: echo
10:36 PM rue_mohr: cat $PLAYDIR/cur_song | cut -c19- | sed 's/.mp3//' | sed 's/^/ /'
10:36 PM rue_mohr: echo "---userFile $curUsr---"
10:36 PM rue_mohr: echo "---$(date | cut -c12-19)------------------------------"
10:36 PM rue_mohr: fi
10:36 PM rue_mohr: $MP3PROG $PLAYDIR/cur_song 1> /dev/null 2>&1
10:36 PM rue_mohr: fi
10:36 PM rue_mohr: done
10:36 PM rue_mohr: sleep 1
10:36 PM rue_mohr: done
10:36 PM rue_mohr: ^^^ otherwise I have to rewrite that bit
10:38 PM rue_mohr: and I'v lost the request history
10:38 PM rue_mohr: which sucks, cause its used for doing popular song selections
10:47 PM rue_mohr: ok I think I found the issue
10:47 PM rue_mohr: they changed the options on tail
10:47 PM rue_mohr: you have to add a -n now
10:48 PM rue_mohr: I'll see if that works
10:48 PM rue_mohr: getting raw tho
10:49 PM rue_mohr: looking good
10:49 PM rue_mohr: so I still have to re-add song stop to the menu
10:49 PM Tom_L: yay!
10:50 PM rue_mohr: and get it to do automatic startup of the jukebox system
10:53 PM Tom_L: got a feeling i'm not gonna sleep well tonight
10:53 PM rue_mohr: ok, not a good day
10:53 PM rue_mohr: the andoid media box wont play netflix while I work
10:54 PM Tom_L: when i'm at the desk working, i'd rather have quiet anyway
10:55 PM Tom_L: did you ever get to finish your class or was it cancelled?
10:55 PM rue_mohr: apparently they removed support for google play on it
10:55 PM rue_mohr: its starts on oct 13
10:55 PM Tom_L: she's got a netflix playlist on hers
10:55 PM Tom_L: several
10:57 PM Tom_L: i just copied all mine over to the phone
10:57 PM Tom_L: seldom listen to em anyway now
11:02 PM rue_mohr: I just wanted a distraction
11:03 PM Tom_L: i get enough of them anyway
11:07 PM rue_mohr: I seriously need a distraction!!!
11:07 PM rue_mohr: I'm goiing insane NOW
11:07 PM rue_mohr: arg
11:09 PM rue_mohr: android version 4.4.2
11:09 PM rue_mohr: damnit, I'm still fixing the jukebox
11:09 PM rue_mohr: wtf
11:09 PM rue_mohr: W T F
11:09 PM rue_mohr: why is life doing this to me?
11:10 PM rue_mohr: current version is 10
11:10 PM rue_mohr: how do I do an update on a media box?
11:11 PM Tom_L: no clue
11:13 PM Tom_L: hah
11:13 PM Tom_L: i'm running ver 10
11:15 PM rue_mohr: I think this thinks its a phone
11:15 PM Tom_L: i've got an apple device that keeps wanting an update but i ignore it
11:16 PM Tom_L: i use it for one thing and one thing only so it doesn't need it
11:20 PM rue_mohr: well, I might go insane, but it might save me $8/mo
11:20 PM rue_mohr: seriously feels like the world is getting smaller
11:20 PM rue_mohr: I dont think its just cause nobody visits anymore either
11:21 PM rue_mohr: its like the number of people in the world is dropping at an astounding rate
11:21 PM Tom_L: i thought you had lots of visitors
11:21 PM rue_mohr: it would only take about 5 people in existance to make up for the interaction I get
11:21 PM Tom_L: life has changed everywhere. dunno if it will ever return to what it was
11:22 PM rue_mohr: I dont want to be fixing my jukebox, I want to have it playing while I work on some digital ass circuit
11:22 PM Tom_L: beside the family i have fewer than that i believe
11:22 PM Tom_L: outside of work
11:22 PM rue_mohr: irc died
11:22 PM rue_mohr: there really isn't that much going on via twitter even
11:22 PM Tom_L: few die hards are still here
11:22 PM rue_mohr: I got stats from it tho
11:23 PM Tom_L: the rest did little anyway
11:23 PM Tom_L: there used to be a cnc conversion going on all the time in linuxcnc. now they're fewer and fewer
11:23 PM rue_mohr: I have over 1300 followrs, but on average only about 60 see my posts
11:24 PM Tom_L: i had a good chat with my friend couple days ago when i went to fix his cnc
11:24 PM rue_mohr: I'm kinda starting to freak out
11:24 PM rue_mohr: the tinitus isn't helping
11:25 PM rue_mohr: sometimes I start to get edgy cause the sound wont go away
11:25 PM Tom_L: i got that all the time in one ear
11:25 PM rue_mohr: most of the time I dont notice it
11:26 PM rue_mohr: sometimes I cant ignore it
11:26 PM Tom_L: i went to a specialist and they found nothing wrong
11:26 PM Tom_L: several years back
11:26 PM rue_mohr: yea they dont
11:26 PM Tom_L: i don't want a hearing aid
11:27 PM Tom_L: not now anyway
11:27 PM rue_mohr: the ear damage actually makes your hearing more sensitive, to the point where all you hear is distortion
11:27 PM Tom_L: mine was from a flight
11:28 PM Tom_L: several years back
11:28 PM Tom_L: shooting pain down my neck from the ear
11:28 PM Tom_L: from then on it's gone downhill
11:29 PM rue_mohr: were you going up when it happened or level flying or comming down?
11:29 PM Tom_L: down
11:30 PM Tom_L: you could tell it was a crappy pilot
11:30 PM rue_mohr: something collapsed
11:30 PM Tom_L: she thought i was dying
11:31 PM rue_mohr: zhanx_workshop, ?
11:31 PM Tom_L: i didn't notice much change for quite a while
11:31 PM rue_mohr: you should know the answer on that one
11:32 PM zhanx_workshop: yea distortion sucks trust me
11:32 PM rue_mohr: did they train you on anything that you think happend to tom comming down?
11:33 PM zhanx_workshop: i have 35% hearing loss and yea he didn't equalize the pressure in his ears
11:33 PM rue_mohr: chewing gum
11:33 PM rue_mohr: so, eardrum damage
11:33 PM zhanx_workshop: that helps if you cant do it will out it
11:33 PM rue_mohr: but
11:34 PM Tom_L: i did but it happened quick
11:34 PM zhanx_workshop: or that little horseshoe thing
11:34 PM Tom_L: you're too young to have that much loss
11:35 PM zhanx_workshop: most of my hearing loss is from sustained machine gun fire
11:35 PM Tom_L: i'm sure of that
11:35 PM rue_mohr: aha, its looking for Playmanager, I have Playmanager.cgi
11:35 PM zhanx_workshop: my right ear is at 45%
11:35 PM rue_mohr: we fired a few big rounds in australia and I couldn't hear for hours
11:36 PM zhanx_workshop: left is 35%
11:36 PM Tom_L: not good
11:36 PM zhanx_workshop: somewhere i have hearing aids
11:36 PM Tom_L: loss or left?
11:36 PM Tom_L: i've talked to several with aids and most don't care for them
11:37 PM rue_mohr: zhanx_workshop, how about we make a stimulator that sits on your back, FFT and your back nerves get trained as your new ears
11:37 PM zhanx_workshop: loss, i do an annual hearing test, and me niether
11:37 PM zhanx_workshop: rue_mohr, that wont help, as my back is junk also
11:37 PM rue_mohr: while you can still hear a bit and get the network training
11:37 PM rue_mohr: root 405 1.0 0.5 5104 2996 ? S 21:36 0:00 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/Playmanager
11:37 PM rue_mohr: YES!
11:38 PM rue_mohr: ok, god I'm getting closer
11:38 PM rue_mohr: or satan, but I'm getting closer to someone
11:38 PM zhanx_workshop: crap forgot to wipe the print bed
11:38 PM zhanx_workshop: oh well its just ground spikes for the cameras
11:38 PM rue_mohr: ok I wonder if I can find my stop icon
11:39 PM rue_mohr: for having had a backup, this is hell
11:39 PM rue_mohr: oh, I wonder if the orig drive is cool enough to try to read
11:41 PM rue_mohr: nope
11:41 PM rue_mohr: even frezing cold it cant read
11:42 PM rue_mohr: not good when I ahve more than 1 hd in the freezer on any given day
11:43 PM Tom_L: most of mine are ssd now
11:46 PM rue_mohr: yea after all those ssd failures I had I'm just not going there
11:46 PM rue_mohr: afterage 1 month to failure is NOT acceptable
11:46 PM Tom_L: samsung seem better than alot of them
11:47 PM Tom_L: this one is on all the time
11:49 PM rue_mohr: :) I found a newer backup
11:49 PM rue_mohr: its got the stop and random buttons
11:49 PM rue_mohr: but it operates via lirc
11:49 PM rue_mohr: so I ahve to restore that
11:53 PM Tom_L: ok i'm gonna wander off to try and sleep