#garfield Logs
Nov 26 2019
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08:07 PM Tom_L: so where did you hide my experimenter board?
08:14 PM Tom_L: yay! found it
08:14 PM Tom_L: stuffed in a box in the garage
08:17 PM Tom_L: now to find a parallel port for it
08:26 PM rue_mohr: oo
08:31 PM Tom_L: so i wonder if a pci or pcie pp card will work under debian with this
08:32 PM Tom_L: since i don't think the MB has a pp
08:33 PM rue_mohr: it should
08:33 PM rue_mohr: plug and play?
08:34 PM rue_mohr: linux ignores the motherbaord tho
08:34 PM Tom_L: dunno if i have a slot for it
08:35 PM Tom_L: that kills that idea
08:35 PM Tom_L: no pci slot
08:35 PM Tom_L: and no pcie pp card
08:37 PM Tom_L: so either i find a pcie pp card or hack the board to disable the pp jtag and use the usb jtag i have for xilinx
08:40 PM Tom_L: so
08:41 PM Tom_L: let me show you a couple files for your opinion
08:42 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/xilinx/digilent/dxc95_rm.pdf
08:42 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/xilinx/digilent/dxc95_sch.pdf
08:42 PM Tom_L: in the first pdf you see 2 buffers off the parallel port
08:42 PM rue_shop1: opening
08:43 PM Tom_L: one goes to the chip and the other is external
08:43 PM rue_shop1: stupid firefox refuses to run adobe
08:43 PM Tom_L: looking at the 2nd pdf (schematic) can i pull the top chip and interface a jtag in that chip socket?
08:43 PM Tom_L: i don't use adobe
08:43 PM Tom_L: pdf architech
08:43 PM rue_shop1: ok
08:44 PM rue_shop1: so
08:44 PM rue_shop1: they have a parallel port programmer?
08:44 PM Tom_L: it's a parallel port jtag
08:44 PM Tom_L: xilinx regognizes it
08:44 PM Tom_L: i've used it
08:44 PM rue_shop1: ok
08:44 PM Tom_L: i have a usb one too
08:44 PM zhanx: rue_shop1, hack a port to be a parallel port
08:44 PM zhanx: so Tom_L can use it
08:44 PM rue_shop1: I dont even need to
08:45 PM Tom_L: i'm just wondering which would be easiest
08:45 PM rue_shop1: but, I'm wondering what software runs it
08:45 PM Tom_L: to get a pcie pp card or pull that chip and interface the usb jtag there
08:45 PM rue_shop1: and I dont have a xlilinx fpga yet
08:45 PM rue_shop1: the machines I use still all have ports
08:45 PM Tom_L: xilinx runs the jtag
08:46 PM Tom_L: i've got other pcs i could use but it's all set up on this one
08:46 PM rue_shop1: webpack?
08:46 PM Tom_L: yes
08:46 PM rue_shop1: k, so I'm just missing an fpga
08:47 PM rue_shop1: I'm chewing on another thing here at the moment
08:47 PM rue_shop1: silly side project
08:47 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/xilinx1.jpg
08:47 PM Tom_L: pull one of those 2 chips above the pp and interface the jtag there
08:47 PM Tom_L: IC1
08:48 PM Tom_L: it was nice of them to socket it
08:49 PM Tom_L: those are both 74hc244
08:50 PM rue_shop1: oh dear 3 directions at once?
08:50 PM rue_shop1: let me make a list of the chips I have, they might just be cpld
08:51 PM rue_shop1: !!!!
08:51 PM rue_shop1: 2 things at once! the printer is square now!
08:51 PM Tom_L: can you tell which of those goes to the chip?
08:51 PM Tom_L: it's probably IC1
08:52 PM rue_shop1: I upgraded the main slider for Y to 1/2" bar, and its stable now
08:52 PM rue_shop1: oh
08:52 PM Tom_L: how many signals does jtag have?
08:52 PM Tom_L: PP0 PWI TMS TCK TDI are out of that chip
08:52 PM rue_shop1: 4 to 6 iirc
08:52 PM Tom_L: SEL
08:52 PM Tom_L: well it's got 6
08:53 PM Tom_L: so i could solder up a chip socket to plug in there
08:53 PM rue_shop1: you have to follow an fpga pin to know for sure
08:53 PM rue_shop1: P59?
08:54 PM rue_shop1: the cirtical traces are on the back
08:54 PM Tom_L: it's 4 layer so maybe not
08:54 PM rue_shop1: you could just pull both tho
08:54 PM rue_shop1: the other chip is just for programming external stuff
08:54 PM Tom_L: right
08:55 PM Tom_L: it wouldn't matter if it was there or not i think
08:55 PM rue_shop1: yea
08:55 PM Tom_L: just flip the switch to internal
08:55 PM Tom_L: SW1
08:55 PM rue_shop1: thats an oddity too
08:55 PM rue_shop1: the computer on the parallel port cant know what its programming
08:56 PM Tom_L: it does
08:56 PM Tom_L: xilinx will recognize the target chip
08:56 PM rue_shop1: but I mean if the device is the fpga or on the expansion connector
08:56 PM Tom_L: no, it won't it will just look for the target chip
08:56 PM Tom_L: whereever it is
08:56 PM rue_shop1: the expansion connector is completely parallel
08:57 PM Tom_L: it would be easiest to connect to it by pulling the chip
08:58 PM Tom_L: huh, this must be a CPLD
08:58 PM Tom_L: looking at the schematic
09:00 PM Tom_L: i may only need TCK TDI TDO and TMS
09:00 PM Tom_L: looking at the cpld chip
09:01 PM Tom_L: lemme take a pic of the usb jtag
09:07 PM rue_shop1: wait
09:07 PM rue_shop1: your not using the parallel port programmer?
09:07 PM Tom_L: that's the question
09:07 PM Tom_L: A i either need a pcie pp card or B adapt this for the usb jtag
09:08 PM Tom_L: and disable the pp one on the test board
09:09 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/xilinx/Xilinx_Jtag2.jpg
09:09 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/xilinx/Xilinx_jtag1.jpg
09:09 PM Tom_L: i have that to use too
09:09 PM Tom_L: never used it yet
09:10 PM rue_shop1: you programming under linux or windows?
09:10 PM Tom_L: linux
09:10 PM Tom_L: or windows
09:10 PM rue_shop1: hmm
09:10 PM rue_shop1: ah
09:10 PM rue_shop1: linux cant be bent to use other things
09:10 PM rue_shop1: do you have an ISA parallel port card?
09:11 PM Tom_L: i dunno
09:11 PM Tom_L: maybe
09:11 PM Tom_L: no isa slot to put it in though
09:11 PM rue_shop1: we might be able to hand an isa card off the ide bus easy
09:11 PM rue_shop1: does it have ide?
09:11 PM Tom_L: no
09:11 PM rue_shop1: just sata?
09:11 PM Tom_L: sata
09:11 PM rue_shop1: pff
09:12 PM Tom_L: i've got other pc's suitable for this
09:12 PM Tom_L: just happens i put debian on this one for testing purposes
09:12 PM rue_shop2: k
09:12 PM Tom_L: just don't want to destroy something making this work since i could use another pc
09:13 PM Tom_L: i've got webpack for both platforms
09:13 PM Tom_L: 32bit on windows and 64 bit on linux
09:13 PM Tom_L: but i can always download another
09:14 PM Tom_L: i just kinda wanted to use this pc
09:17 PM Tom_L: even so, i dunno if i still have a pp cable for it
09:17 PM rue_shop2: they ditched too many legacy ports on it
09:17 PM Tom_L: probably do but who knows
09:17 PM rue_shop2: ah, and thats not a normal parallel cable
09:17 PM rue_shop2: its a db25-db25
09:17 PM rue_shop2: tahts not serial
09:17 PM Tom_L: i used to and i don't think i've tossed any
09:17 PM Tom_L: just a matter of finding it
09:18 PM rue_shop2: I'm deep into trying to design a light up pushbutton
09:18 PM Tom_L: i'm about done with it for tonight anyway
09:19 PM rue_shop2: I'll get a list of the chips I have for tommorow
09:19 PM Tom_L: maybe i can find the pp cable
09:19 PM rue_shop2: I got the printer up, I'm happy
09:19 PM Tom_L: xilinx might even be installed on the other pc
09:20 PM Tom_L: in fact it's on this one too
09:20 PM Tom_L: but it's slow
09:33 PM rue_shop2: https://hackaday.com/2009/01/29/led-push-buttons/
09:35 PM Tom_L: :)
09:35 PM rue_shop2: searching for different ideas
09:36 PM rue_shop2: I'm super low on energy tho
09:37 PM Tom_L: you really don't need more projects
09:38 PM rue_shop2: I'v got an old interest in something here
09:38 PM Tom_L: same with the cpld board for me
09:38 PM Tom_L: you can see the date on the schematics :)
09:38 PM rue_shop1: :)
09:39 PM rue_shop1: its nice to take new knowledge to an old project
09:42 PM Tom_L: yeah but it's got a layer of rust on it
10:17 PM rue_shop2: hahah
10:17 PM Tom_L: so i wonder what sort of walwart i need for that board
10:17 PM rue_shop2: I cant get the cnc to just drill a hole
10:17 PM rue_shop2: hmmm
10:17 PM Tom_L: 317 regulator
10:18 PM rue_shop2: up to 37V
10:18 PM rue_shop2: 42?
10:18 PM rue_shop2: so 9V
10:18 PM Tom_L: do drill a hole make a linear move in z
10:18 PM rue_shop2: yea, I have a dxf
10:18 PM Tom_L: i dunno if i have a 9v
10:18 PM Tom_L: maybe 12
10:18 PM rue_shop2: that cam program I wrote can do it
10:18 PM Tom_L: might get hot
10:18 PM rue_shop2: funny enough
10:18 PM rue_shop2: it just cant get anything else
10:19 PM Tom_L: just write it
10:19 PM Tom_L: you know how to code
10:19 PM Tom_L: G0 X1 Y1
10:19 PM Tom_L: G1 Z-.25
10:19 PM Tom_L: G1 .25
10:20 PM Tom_L: to where you started
10:20 PM Tom_L: just add F & S
10:20 PM rue_shop2: I know, I just want to not hand code it :)
10:20 PM Tom_L: so i found a cable i think will work
10:21 PM rue_shop2: your sure its not serial?
10:21 PM Tom_L: now to hunt down a 9v wart
10:21 PM Tom_L: positive
10:22 PM rue_shop2: 2002 and its not centre -????
10:22 PM rue_shop2: you sure?
10:23 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/xilinx/digilent/dxc95_rm.pdf
10:23 PM Tom_L: what's that block diagram say?
10:23 PM Tom_L: mmm also says 5-9v in
10:24 PM rue_shop2: maybe they take it down to 3.3
10:24 PM Tom_L: dunno, reg says 5v
10:24 PM rue_shop2: firefox just cant run adobe
10:24 PM rue_shop2: on ANY machine
10:24 PM rue_shop2: wtf
10:24 PM Tom_L: i don't use adobe
10:24 PM rue_shop2: I cant print properly with anything else
10:25 PM rue_shop2: I need to be able to set up a zoom and "print view" scale to page, and centre
10:25 PM rue_shop2: nobody can do that yet
10:25 PM rue_shop2: diagram is broken
10:25 PM rue_shop2: you cant take 5V in and do 5V out
10:27 PM Tom_L: https://alternativeto.net/software/pdfarchitect/?platform=linux
10:27 PM Tom_L: i use pdf architect on windows instead of adobe
10:28 PM Tom_L: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/5-best-linux-pdf-editors
10:29 PM rue_shop2: I dot wnat to edit
10:29 PM Tom_L: well you don't have to
10:29 PM rue_shop2: just set up a view (like *just* the pinout of a chip) and print it full scale on a page
10:29 PM rue_shop2: adobe can do that
10:30 PM Tom_L: https://www.ubuntupit.com/linux-pdf-viewer-best-15-pdf-readers-reviewed-for-linux-users/
10:30 PM rue_shop2: :S
10:30 PM rue_shop2: my project is 20cm wide
10:30 PM Tom_L: i'll dig thru the wall warts tomorrow
10:30 PM Tom_L: dunno if i have any 9v
10:31 PM rue_shop2: yea not gonna fit on the machie I made
10:31 PM rue_shop2: might fit the sherline
10:31 PM Tom_L: it'll fit mine
10:31 PM rue_shop2: :)
10:32 PM rue_shop2: the size of your new one hasn't been an issue yet has it?
10:32 PM rue_shop2: less the motor power?
10:33 PM Tom_L: ok 9v 500ma
10:33 PM Tom_L: wonder if the plug is the right one
10:34 PM rue_shop2: :) I have a huge bag of cutoff ends in my adapter box
10:34 PM rue_shop2: (long as to re-use them)
10:34 PM Tom_L: might work..
10:34 PM rue_shop2: seems nobody ever has the right thing on it
10:35 PM Tom_L: haha
10:35 PM Tom_L: the board still has the test program in it
10:36 PM Tom_L: now if the pp cable is right i'm in business
10:36 PM rue_shop2: OO...
10:37 PM rue_shop2: flashing led?
10:38 PM Tom_L: counting leds
10:38 PM rue_shop2: ok
10:39 PM Tom_L: ok 2 9v so far
10:39 PM Tom_L: better stick with the first one, the 2nd one is only 250ma
10:40 PM Tom_L: how many pins is a 74hc244?
10:40 PM Tom_L: i could count them but i'm lazy
10:44 PM rue_shop2: 20
10:44 PM rue_shop2: 8*2+2+2
10:45 PM Tom_L: don't know where my sockets are anyway
10:46 PM Tom_L: damn i'm running out of outlet plugs
10:46 PM rue_shop2: it doesn't help when each one eats 3
10:48 PM Tom_L: damn it recognizes the chip!
10:48 PM rue_shop2: damn I made my own library
10:48 PM rue_shop2: cool Tom_L
10:48 PM rue_shop2: :/
10:48 PM rue_shop2: I need stuff so I can play
10:48 PM Tom_L: you use ise iMPACT to connect
10:48 PM Tom_L: it's on the tool tab
10:49 PM rue_shop2: dont ahve it insalled yet
10:50 PM rue_shop2: damnit I cant run my cam program on 32bit
10:50 PM rue_shop2: er 64bit
10:50 PM rue_shop2: ARG
10:50 PM rue_shop2: In order to fix horrid gui problems I had to write one of my own classes, but its only compiled for 32bit, and this machine is 64 bit and wont do it
10:51 PM rue_shop2: wait, is the webpack we got 32 or 64
10:51 PM * rue_shop2 pushes his current project aside
10:53 PM rue_shop2: so I'll ahve to use a 32bit machine to generate the holes
10:53 PM rue_shop2: as one nc file
10:53 PM rue_shop2: and then use the windows machine to generate all the engraving and profile cuts
10:54 PM Tom_L: aparently that button resets it
10:54 PM Tom_L: counting a 4 digit hex number
10:55 PM rue_shop2: heh even at 100mbits that takes a while to copy
10:55 PM Tom_L: ok xilinx works on this pc
10:55 PM Tom_L: and the board works
10:56 PM Tom_L: i might try setting up the usb jtag thing
10:56 PM rue_shop2: which machines are still 32 bit?
10:56 PM rue_shop2: 300m
10:57 PM Tom_L: ?
10:57 PM rue_shop2: copying webpack to this machine
10:57 PM Tom_L: most of mine are
10:57 PM Tom_L: the main pc will boot either way
10:57 PM Tom_L: windows 32 64 and linux 64
10:58 PM rue_shop2: so they did a stupid thing with the 64 bit
10:58 PM rue_shop2: even if a processor is 64bit, in 32bit mode the 64 bit instructions wont work
10:59 PM rue_shop2: 500m
11:01 PM Tom_L: what are the odds of a pcie pp card working under linux?
11:01 PM rue_shop2: really high
11:01 PM rue_shop2: copied?
11:01 PM rue_shop2: copied1
11:01 PM rue_shop2: copied!
11:02 PM rue_shop2: unpacking the install file
11:02 PM rue_shop2: is it an installer or a live directory?
11:03 PM Tom_L: installer
11:03 PM rue_shop2: k
11:03 PM Tom_L: you took notes right?
11:03 PM Tom_L: put it in that directory
11:03 PM Tom_L: sudo su
11:03 PM Tom_L: run as root
11:03 PM rue_shop2: I only have 63G on the drive, will that work out?
11:03 PM rue_shop2: I have the notes somewhere
11:03 PM Tom_L: time will tell :)
11:03 PM rue_shop2: the installer has to be in a special dir?
11:04 PM Tom_L: no but it will be easier in the end
11:04 PM rue_shop2: or that dir after its installed?
11:04 PM Tom_L: after
11:05 PM rue_shop2: why does it look like they split them into a bunch of floppy images....
11:05 PM rue_shop2: ok, how am I going to make this panel...
11:05 PM rue_shop2: raw material is a good start
11:06 PM Tom_L: huh, this must be their test file
11:06 PM Tom_L: that card has a kbd and serial plugs on it
11:06 PM Tom_L: i've never used either one
11:09 PM Tom_L: hah i still have the work files installed on the main pc
11:09 PM Tom_L: got quadrature and pwm files
11:10 PM rue_shop2: which thing was I doing?
11:10 PM Tom_L: what were you doing?
11:10 PM rue_shop2: ok I got webpack unpacked
11:11 PM Tom_L: lemme boot linux
11:12 PM Tom_L: ok
11:12 PM rue_shop2: ok s the instructiosn aren't on the piece of paper here
11:12 PM Tom_L: you running debian 9 or 10?
11:12 PM rue_shop2: so where was I when you said htat
11:13 PM rue_shop2: 10.2
11:13 PM Tom_L: in garf
11:13 PM rue_shop2: we are
11:13 PM Tom_dev: need libncurses5 for debian 10
11:13 PM rue_shop2: no, I mean
11:13 PM Tom_L: install that
11:13 PM rue_shop2: I was at 1 of 4 computers
11:13 PM Tom_L: i got it all here
11:13 PM Tom_L: don't go hunting
11:14 PM rue_shop2: huh, it wasn't already
11:14 PM rue_shop2: green machine
11:14 PM Tom_dev: go to the dir it unpacked to
11:14 PM rue_shop2: done
11:14 PM Tom_dev: cd /home/tom/xilinx14-7/Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1
11:14 PM Tom_dev: should e
11:14 PM Tom_dev: be
11:14 PM Tom_dev: first install that file
11:14 PM rue_shop2: well, I'm using /files_loc
11:15 PM Tom_dev: libncurses5
11:15 PM rue_shop2: yea I unpacked that
11:15 PM rue_shop2: and got nc5
11:15 PM rue_shop2: done
11:15 PM Tom_dev: bash xsetup
11:15 PM Tom_dev: that'll take a while
11:15 PM rue_shop2: sure
11:15 PM Tom_dev: then you run from a terminal
11:15 PM Tom_dev: as root
11:16 PM Tom_dev: Launching Xilinx Design Suite:
11:16 PM Tom_dev: open terminal and 'sudo su'
11:16 PM Tom_dev: run as root
11:16 PM Tom_dev: navigate to cd /opt/Xilinx/14.7/ISE_DS
11:16 PM Tom_dev: and run: source settings32.sh
11:16 PM Tom_dev: or run: source settings64.sh
11:16 PM Tom_dev: then type: ise
11:16 PM Tom_dev: you'll want settings64.sh
11:17 PM rue_shop2: ok, which of the editions do I want?
11:18 PM Tom_dev: the one that says ise webpack or something like that
11:18 PM Tom_dev: whatever the default was
11:18 PM Tom_dev: iirc
11:18 PM rue_shop2: ok, cause else its suite logic edition, or
11:18 PM rue_shop2: embedeed edition
11:18 PM rue_shop2: or dsp
11:18 PM Tom_dev: no not those
11:18 PM rue_shop2: or system edition
11:18 PM rue_shop2: and lab tools
11:18 PM rue_shop2: k
11:18 PM rue_shop2: so "ise webpack"
11:18 PM Tom_dev: yep
11:19 PM Tom_dev: got your license file?
11:19 PM rue_shop2: install cable drivers?
11:19 PM rue_shop2: I dont think I need that
11:19 PM Tom_dev: you can
11:19 PM rue_shop2: I have the lisc file
11:19 PM Tom_dev: cable drivers are for the jtag
11:19 PM rue_shop2: its going to ask for that soon I think
11:19 PM Tom_dev: yes
11:19 PM Tom_dev: just give it that file and you're good
11:20 PM Tom_dev: i think it asks once you launch it
11:20 PM rue_shop2: yea it asked where to install
11:20 PM rue_shop2: and hinted its going to do a get/manage liscence thing later
11:21 PM rue_shop2: chips
11:21 PM rue_shop2: my problem with doing multiple things at once is that I forget all but 1 of the things
11:22 PM Tom_L: i'm surprised i got mine up that easy
11:22 PM Tom_L: things just don't happen like that for me
11:22 PM rue_shop1: ok i have a xcs05xl
11:22 PM rue_shop1: can I do that?
11:22 PM Tom_L: maybe
11:23 PM Tom_L: when you start a new project it might ask you what the target chip is
11:23 PM Tom_L: whole bunch of options
11:25 PM Tom_L: i got a rc servo verilog file
11:26 PM rue_shop2: ok, its installing for a while
11:26 PM rue_shop2: I need to start supper
11:26 PM rue_shop2: is the tea still on?
11:26 PM Tom_L: i'm gonna go sleep
11:26 PM rue_shop2: 259 minutes left
11:27 PM Tom_L: got a mouse file too
11:28 PM Tom_dev: some i've never used
11:28 PM Tom_dev: just collected from i dunno where
11:29 PM rue_shop1: I clicked to add a toolpath
11:30 PM rue_shop1: the app said "hahahah. No."
11:30 PM Tom_L: i got some more pdf files i'll give ya tomorrow
11:30 PM rue_shop1: I'm kinda overloaded right now
11:30 PM Tom_L: covers building the logic gates etc
11:30 PM rue_shop1: lets see if we can even connect to that fpga I have
11:30 PM rue_shop1: or something
11:30 PM rue_shop1: you working tommorow?
11:30 PM Tom_L: so you don't have to figure out how to build em
11:30 PM Tom_L: yes
11:31 PM Tom_L: you'll have to figure out the voltages and the + - supply pins
11:31 PM rue_shop1: well its on an adsl modem
11:31 PM rue_shop1: so, I think I have some cheats
11:32 PM Tom_L: oh
11:32 PM rue_shop1: modem and router...
11:32 PM rue_shop1: but I stole the network jack
11:33 PM Tom_L: grab these 2 files
11:33 PM Tom_L: it will help you
11:34 PM rue_shop1: I'm kinda gonna lose them
11:34 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/VERILOGmanual.pdf
11:34 PM rue_shop1: you gonna die tonight?
11:34 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Verilog-CPLD.pdf
11:34 PM Tom_L: it's not in the plans no
11:35 PM rue_shop1: if I ask, their in the "install directory"
11:35 PM Tom_L: the last one gives you good examples of gates etc
11:35 PM rue_shop1: my cam program didn't generate any output
11:35 PM Tom_L: learn coding by looking at code....
11:35 PM rue_shop1: I probably have to peel off the uC on this board
11:35 PM rue_shop1: I'd just gonna imagine its going to do things with the fpga
11:36 PM Tom_L: one more
11:36 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/CPLD_VHDL_intro.pdf
11:39 PM rue_shop1: damnit, its generating an empty nc file
11:39 PM Tom_L: sequence for system shut down initiated
11:39 PM rue_shop1: I need a HUGE projects shelf set
11:39 PM rue_shop1: like a swap space
11:40 PM Tom_L: what nc are you trying to do?
11:41 PM rue_shop1: I have this panel I'm trying to build
11:41 PM rue_shop1: I need to generate a file with drill operations for all the points in the dxf
11:41 PM rue_shop1: about 110 of them
11:41 PM rue_shop1: maybe an older version does this
11:41 PM rue_shop1: I hit a problem cause the X gui stuff couldn't do what I needed
11:42 PM rue_shop1: it came down to rewriting the gui elements
11:42 PM rue_shop1: I did one, and then realized the mountian was too big
11:42 PM rue_shop1: I basically need to rewrite motif
11:42 PM rue_shop1: where do I put the fpga project so I can work on the panel
11:44 PM rue_shop1: yay! my version 9 worked
11:45 PM rue_shop1: G00 X159.540 Y37.080 Z4.000
11:45 PM rue_shop1: G00 X159.540 Y26.920 Z4.000
11:45 PM rue_shop1: G00 X159.540 Y26.920 Z1.000
11:45 PM rue_shop1: G01 F100.000 X159.540 Y26.920 Z-7.000
11:45 PM rue_shop1: G4 P0.050
11:46 PM Tom_L: good
11:46 PM rue_shop1: so, up from the last hole, over to the new one, jog down, drill to -7mm, wait a bit
11:46 PM Tom_L: gnite
11:46 PM rue_shop1: gnight
11:46 PM Tom_L: back up in ~5hrs
11:46 PM rue_shop1: sweet, it only did the objects I selected
11:47 PM Tom_L: go drill some holes
11:47 PM rue_shop1: Ihave to use the windows
11:47 PM Tom_L: did ise start?
11:47 PM rue_shop1: program to generate the cutouts and engraving
11:47 PM rue_shop1: oh its still installing I think
11:48 PM rue_shop2: it was waiting, driver install failed
11:48 PM Tom_L: i may have gotten that error too i forget
11:48 PM Tom_L: i think it's gotta be connected to something to install
11:49 PM Tom_L: mine perked right up when i plugged the pp cable in
11:50 PM rue_shop2: run: source settings64.sh
11:51 PM rue_shop2: I have to find "ise" its not here
11:51 PM Tom_L: you're in the wrong directory
11:51 PM Tom_L: it's in the directions
11:51 PM rue_shop2: yea, I'm looking
11:52 PM rue_shop2: there is a cd missing
11:52 PM Tom_L: cd /opt/Xilinx/14.7/ISE_DS
11:52 PM Tom_L: it's in this log
11:52 PM rue_shop2: yea its not ther
11:52 PM rue_shop2: e
11:52 PM Tom_L: something didn't install then
11:53 PM Tom_L: unless you told it to install somewhere else
11:53 PM rue_shop2: I need to see an ls of a working directory
11:53 PM * Tom_L boots linux one last time
11:54 PM rue_shop2: tink I found it
11:54 PM rue_shop2: /opt/14.7/ISE_DS/ISE/bin/lin64# ./ise
11:55 PM Tom_L: not much in that dir
11:55 PM rue_shop2: its running
11:56 PM rue_shop2: manage liscences isn't working
11:57 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/ls.txt
11:57 PM rue_shop2: under ISE there is a bin that has a lin64 that has ise
11:58 PM rue_shop2: it complained it doesn't have a liscnence and then its all working anyhow
11:58 PM Tom_L: yeah
11:58 PM rue_shop2: go to bed
11:58 PM Tom_L: you still need the license
11:58 PM rue_shop2: I'll work on my panel
11:58 PM Tom_L: don't think it will output without it
11:58 PM rue_shop2: and you can walk me thru later
11:58 PM rue_shop2: its installed on "blackie"