#garfield Logs
Nov 22 2019
#garfield Calendar
12:48 AM rue_mohr: https://tinyfpga.com/bx/guide.html
12:52 AM rue_mohr: I'll try that for software setup soon
04:57 AM Tom_L: hmm
06:47 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33052982174.html
06:47 PM rue_mohr: APPARENTLY those are being used for doing xilinx programming!
06:55 PM Tom_L: write one for your u2 breakout board
07:35 PM rue_mohr: I'm trying to avoid writing software
07:35 PM rue_mohr: hmm zhanx been by at all latley?
07:35 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000247069358.html
07:36 PM rue_mohr: the core of modern clay printers
07:40 PM rue_mohr: tom, do you make .bit files when doing fpga stuff?
07:41 PM jymmmm: I thought this was... http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ha/hasbro-play-doh-fun-factory.jpg
07:55 PM Tom_L: rue_bed yes
07:56 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/emc/xilinx/xilinx14_install_index.php
07:56 PM Tom_L: there's the process
07:57 PM Tom_L: it's probably changed somewhat since that is older
07:57 PM rue_mohr: :) ok, foolishly buying hardware now
07:57 PM Tom_L: what hardware?
07:57 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33052982174.html
07:57 PM rue_mohr: programming hardware
07:58 PM Tom_L: mmm
07:58 PM Tom_L: i'd say send me one but i have nothing to use it on
07:58 PM rue_mohr: there is a linux command line program, xc3sprog that supports bridging the two
07:58 PM Tom_L: besides i've got a xilinx jtag thingie
07:58 PM rue_mohr: apparently the ide is too old for direct programming
07:58 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:59 PM Tom_L: one of those 68332 boards i have has a fpga on it
07:59 PM Tom_L: he made the jtag built in it
07:59 PM Tom_L: as a part of one of the fpga
07:59 PM Tom_L: i never quite figured that board out
07:59 PM rue_mohr: ;)
08:00 PM Tom_L: i still have it
08:00 PM rue_mohr: I bet nobody worked it out
08:00 PM Tom_L: he did
08:00 PM Tom_L: kenneth maxon was the one that made that one
08:01 PM rue_mohr: heh, I removed xilinx, the only thing in the dir is the rc file
08:01 PM Tom_L: why?
08:02 PM rue_mohr: do you hav a machine without the xilinx stuff on it yet?
08:02 PM Tom_L: yes
08:02 PM rue_mohr: prolly took up way too much space
08:02 PM Tom_L: well the download itself is 6G
08:02 PM rue_mohr: ok, maybe we can install it togethor sometime eh?
08:02 PM Tom_L: it's super simple
08:02 PM Tom_L: i have directions
08:02 PM rue_mohr: wait, did it need 64 bit?
08:02 PM Tom_L: 64bit or 32?
08:02 PM Tom_L: either one
08:02 PM rue_mohr: if so I'll have to do it on another machine
08:03 PM Tom_L: say when you're ready.... i am
08:03 PM rue_mohr: Rue: apt-get install xc3sprog
08:03 PM rue_mohr: I'm almost asleep right now
08:03 PM Tom_L: oh pooo
08:03 PM Tom_L: you got all weekend
08:03 PM rue_mohr: and week
08:03 PM rue_mohr: vaccation next week
08:03 PM rue_mohr: sorry
08:04 PM rue_mohr: you dont remember if I had any xilinx fpgas eh?
08:05 PM Tom_L: i don't think you did
08:05 PM Tom_L: but what do i know
08:05 PM jymmmm: rue_mohr: They are holding up the corner of your dining room table
08:05 PM rue_mohr: what I has might have been cplds
08:05 PM rue_mohr: heh
08:08 PM Tom_L: jymmmm you should post that for rue, he might like it
08:08 PM jymmmm: Pipe Coil Length Calc https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinjara_imran5290.Pipe_Coil_Length_Cal&hl=en_US
08:09 PM Tom_L: also duct calc
08:09 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: duct coils?
08:10 PM rue_mohr: heh
08:10 PM Tom_L: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pinjara_imran5290.Duct_Calculator
08:10 PM Tom_L: duck calculator
08:10 PM Tom_L: has a shitty rating
08:11 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, you want the linux ver of xilinx install?
08:12 PM rue_mohr: you got a direct link?
08:12 PM rue_mohr: I suppose it would be a good idea to download start now
08:12 PM Tom_L: yeah hang on
08:13 PM Tom_L: you gotta log in to get it though
08:13 PM Tom_L: as a company or such
08:13 PM rue_mohr: I must have before
08:13 PM rue_mohr: yup
08:13 PM rue_mohr: got a link
08:14 PM rue_mohr: (I cant think, give me a link)
08:14 PM rue_mohr: more tea...
08:14 PM Tom_itx: https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/downloadNav/vivado-design-tools/archive-ise.html
08:14 PM Tom_L: should get you close
08:14 PM Tom_L: you want 14.7
08:15 PM Tom_L: you can get win, lin or both iirc
08:16 PM Tom_L: to get a closer link you gotta log in
08:17 PM Tom_L: i can just put it on my server if you want
08:17 PM Tom_L: i've got the 64bit linux ver
08:17 PM Tom_itx: https://www.xilinx.com/member/forms/download/xef.html?filename=Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar
08:18 PM jymmmm: that app crashed on me, oh joy
08:18 PM Tom_itx: MD5 SUM Value : e8065b2ffb411bb74ae32efa475f9817
08:18 PM Tom_L: the coil thing?
08:18 PM jymmmm: yeah
08:19 PM Tom_L: good, i won't try it then
08:20 PM Tom_itx: ok time to boot into linux
08:20 PM rue_mohr: I think they forgot me
08:20 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: I did that 5 days ago :)
08:20 PM Tom_L: i can put it on the server but it might take a min
08:23 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/xilinx/
08:23 PM Tom_L: i'll let you know when the tail end of it shows up there
08:25 PM Tom_L: don't get the 9.2 one
08:25 PM rue_mohr: I'm still trying to log in,
08:25 PM rue_mohr: did a forgot password cant find the email
08:25 PM Tom_L: i'm uploading it
08:26 PM jymmmm: Password is: 1234
08:26 PM Tom_L: 8% so far
08:26 PM rue_mohr: oh for FS
08:26 PM rue_mohr: god damn ebay
08:26 PM Tom_L: jymmmm no, it's 'password'
08:26 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: my bad
08:26 PM rue_mohr: nowonder my stuff didn't come, freaking paypal didn't do the transaction
08:26 PM jymmmm: https://www.acxesspring.com/spring-calculator.html
08:27 PM jymmmm: even creates a blueprint of your "spring"
08:27 PM rue_mohr: I have a log in
08:27 PM rue_mohr: just stand by while I fix junk
08:27 PM Tom_L: if you figure it out, that last link is direct
08:27 PM jymmmm: My "spring" is 384lbs :)
08:27 PM Tom_L: the one that ends in .tar
08:28 PM Tom_L: spring?
08:28 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: spring, pipe, it's the same to me
08:28 PM rue_mohr: I dont want you go thru tyhe upload, I'll download it I just hav to wlrka out the account again
08:28 PM Tom_L: you making springs?
08:28 PM rue_mohr: please wait
08:28 PM Tom_L: 13%
08:29 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: No, I'm trying to figure out pip length I would need for 3" diameter pipe
08:30 PM Tom_L: how many windings?
08:30 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: unknown, overall total length would be 36"
08:30 PM jymmmm: coil outter diameter is 18"
08:31 PM jymmmm: space between coils is 3"
08:31 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/spindle_cooler/Cooler1.jpg
08:31 PM Tom_L: you mean like that?
08:31 PM jymmmm: yeah
08:31 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/spindle_cooler/Cooler2.jpg
08:31 PM Tom_L: :D
08:32 PM jymmmm: Tom_L: Hey, whatever works :)
08:32 PM Tom_L: works good
08:32 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/spindle_cooler/Cooler5.jpg
08:32 PM Tom_L: fishtank pump
08:34 PM rue_mohr: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
08:34 PM rue_mohr: why wont you accept this registration
08:34 PM Tom_L: and that's why i'm still uploading.....
08:36 PM rue_mohr: I dont want to tax you with the downlaod traffic
08:36 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, i know you won't get it but did you see that little dev board i posted the other day?
08:36 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, i'm on unlimited. it doesn't matter
08:36 PM Tom_L: or at least i've never reached the limit
08:37 PM jymmmm: 2GB?!
08:37 PM Tom_L: ?
08:37 PM jymmmm: file size
08:38 PM Tom_L: no, it's 6
08:38 PM Tom_L: that's just partial
08:38 PM jymmmm: ah
08:38 PM jymmmm: heh
08:38 PM rue_mohr: their captcha is broken
08:38 PM rue_mohr: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
08:38 PM rue_mohr: cant create account
08:38 PM Tom_L: 35%
08:38 PM Tom_L: i'll let you create an account on mine
08:39 PM rue_mohr: this is insane
08:39 PM Tom_L: key is to remember your login
08:39 PM rue_mohr: ity took it!
08:39 PM jymmmm: or have your browser do it for you
08:39 PM Tom_L: i access them so seldom i have to do it over each time
08:42 PM rue_mohr: ok what do I click on?
08:44 PM Tom_L: https://www.xilinx.com/member/forms/download/xef.html?filename=Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar
08:44 PM Tom_L: for them
08:46 PM rue_mohr: hahaha downlaod failed
08:46 PM Tom_L: ?
08:46 PM Tom_L: why?
08:46 PM Tom_L: 53%
08:47 PM rue_mohr: cause they gav my broser a bosuc link
08:47 PM Tom_L: need to walk up to the download page?
08:47 PM rue_mohr: https://www.xilinx.com/member/forms/download/xef.html?filename=Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar
08:48 PM rue_mohr: your sure its jsut tar?
08:48 PM Tom_dev: https://www.xilinx.com/support/download/index.html/content/xilinx/en/downloadNav/design-tools.html
08:48 PM Tom_L: follow me
08:48 PM Tom_dev: 'support'
08:48 PM rue_mohr: got it!
08:48 PM rue_mohr: hold on...
08:48 PM Tom_dev: 'downloads & licensing'
08:48 PM rue_mohr: I tried it all again
08:49 PM rue_mohr: I got an hour to go
08:49 PM rue_mohr: :) thanks
08:49 PM Tom_L: working?
08:49 PM rue_mohr: this is insane
08:49 PM Tom_L: heh
08:49 PM rue_mohr: 54 mins left
08:49 PM Tom_L: yeah it takes a bit
08:50 PM Tom_L: i should have installed the download tools on mine but i didn't
08:50 PM Tom_L: so you can hook a jtag to it
08:50 PM Tom_L: since i upload the .bit files another way i don't need it
08:52 PM rue_mohr: yea, I have those programmers comming,
08:52 PM rue_mohr: if I can make .bit files I'm supposedly good
08:52 PM Tom_L: is that the standard file for uploading to any fpga?
08:53 PM Tom_L: i can't remember it's been so long since i played with my experimenter board
08:53 PM rue_mohr: apparently
08:54 PM rue_mohr: but you need to make the right compiler for the fpga
08:54 PM rue_mohr: right bit file with compiler for fpga
08:54 PM Tom_L: yeah
08:54 PM Tom_L: you gotta know the target chip
08:54 PM Tom_L: did you watch that video?
08:55 PM Tom_L: there's a graphical way to map the pins
08:56 PM rue_mohr: no, I'm still half asleep
08:56 PM rue_mohr: but that left me kinda enraged
08:57 PM rue_mohr: which is more awake than asleep
08:57 PM Tom_L: can't find it now
09:00 PM Tom_L: https://hackaday.io/project/159720-fpga-bootcamp-0
09:00 PM Tom_L: another one
09:01 PM Tom_L: 85%
09:06 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_tws4AXg7asC75dRvL_4vRWbz1F5focG
09:06 PM Tom_L: was that it?
09:09 PM rue_mohr: F*** ebay
09:09 PM rue_mohr: see if I can fix my puchase
09:10 PM Tom_L: ok the file is there now if you need it
09:11 PM Tom_L: btw, how do i check my disk space?
09:11 PM rue_mohr: df
09:12 PM Tom_L: i don't even know what drive i've got on it
09:12 PM Tom_L: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
09:12 PM Tom_L: dev/sda1 114863680 26359648 82646192 25% /
09:13 PM rue_mohr: hahah
09:13 PM rue_mohr: the declien was a scam email
09:13 PM rue_mohr: uuugh
09:13 PM Tom_L: heh
09:13 PM rue_mohr: df -h
09:13 PM rue_mohr: human readable
09:13 PM Tom_L: i got plenty of space
09:14 PM rue_mohr: :)
09:14 PM Tom_L: was all i wanted to know
09:14 PM rue_mohr: tmpfs 5.6G 659M 5.0G 12% /tmp
09:14 PM rue_mohr: 192.168.9.12:/files 178G 69G 100G 41% /morfiles
09:14 PM rue_mohr: er
09:14 PM rue_mohr: dev/md0 898G 384G 469G 46% /files
09:14 PM rue_mohr: tmpfs 5.6G 659M 5.0G 12% /tmp
09:14 PM rue_mohr: dev/sr0 3.6G 3.6G 0 100% /cdrom
09:14 PM rue_mohr: 192.168.9.12:/files 178G 69G 100G 41% /morfiles
09:14 PM rue_mohr: so, where are my memory cores?
09:17 PM Tom_L: ok take notes:
09:17 PM rue_mohr: oh no
09:17 PM rue_mohr: k
09:18 PM Tom_dev: Installing Xilinx Design Suite:
09:18 PM Tom_dev: open a terminal
09:18 PM Tom_dev: 'sudo su'
09:18 PM Tom_dev: cd /home/tom/xilinx14-7/Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1
09:18 PM Tom_dev: bash xsetup
09:18 PM rue_mohr: 331 minutes of tea left
09:18 PM Tom_dev: eed libncurses5 for debian 10
09:18 PM Tom_L: need
09:19 PM Tom_dev: Launching Xilinx Design Suite:
09:19 PM Tom_dev: open terminal and 'sudo su'
09:19 PM Tom_dev: run as root
09:19 PM Tom_dev: navigate to cd /opt/Xilinx/14.7/ISE_DS
09:19 PM rue_mohr: k
09:19 PM Tom_dev: and run: source settings32.sh
09:19 PM Tom_dev: or
09:19 PM Tom_dev: source settings64.sh
09:20 PM Tom_dev: you want the latter
09:20 PM Tom_dev: then type: ise
09:20 PM rue_mohr: k
09:20 PM rue_mohr: 19m left
09:20 PM Tom_L: you need to run it as root
09:21 PM Tom_L: tuck that away in your xilinx directory
09:21 PM rue_mohr: its on the stack
09:22 PM Tom_L: unzip it to that directory in the path ^^
09:22 PM Tom_L: your life will go smoother
09:26 PM rue_mohr: so I need to work out what to do during my week off
09:28 PM Tom_L: couldn't tell you. never had one
09:28 PM Tom_L: what's your purpose with these fpgas?
09:34 PM rue_mohr: just to do fpga
09:39 PM Tom_L: mmm i thought i posted my test files
09:39 PM Tom_L: must have deleted em
09:45 PM zhanx: Evening
09:46 PM Tom_L: hi
09:47 PM zhanx: thankfully its friday, i am worn out
09:48 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/xilinx/
09:48 PM Tom_L: found it
09:48 PM rue_mohr: zhanx,
09:48 PM zhanx: me
09:49 PM rue_mohr: <rue_mohr> hmm zhanx been by at all latley?
09:49 PM rue_mohr: <rue_mohr> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000247069358.html
09:49 PM rue_mohr: <rue_mohr> the core of modern clay printers
09:50 PM zhanx: cool bookmarked
09:50 PM zhanx: thanks
09:51 PM Tom_L: for making filament?
09:51 PM zhanx: clay / cement
09:51 PM Tom_L: might work for making filament too
09:51 PM Tom_L: ?
09:52 PM zhanx: if you tap it and add the right size tip yes
09:52 PM Tom_L: what's the tip size on that?
09:52 PM rue_mohr: zhanx,
09:52 PM rue_mohr: here is whats interesting
09:52 PM zhanx: 8mm
09:52 PM Tom_L: the small end is threaded
09:53 PM rue_mohr: they are using a pnaumatic hopper to prefeed
09:53 PM zhanx: i don't see the id just the od
09:53 PM rue_mohr: so air->sylinder->screwfeeder
09:53 PM rue_mohr: or air->syringe->screwfeeder
09:53 PM Tom_L: scroll down to the 'big' pics
09:53 PM rue_mohr: siringe
09:54 PM rue_mohr: cant speel,s orry so tired
09:54 PM Tom_L: 2nd one
09:54 PM Tom_L: 2nd pic
09:54 PM rue_mohr: crazy expensive
09:54 PM zhanx: 6mm id
09:55 PM rue_mohr: is a motor 5 or 6?
09:55 PM rue_mohr: stepper
09:55 PM zhanx: 5 i though
09:55 PM zhanx: thought
09:55 PM zhanx: sorry tired, tweaked the knee etc
09:55 PM rue_mohr: I was trying to think of thigns that extrude, there are glue dispencers that squeeze stuff, but not motorized
09:55 PM rue_mohr: 5 soudns right nto me
09:55 PM zhanx: rtv
09:56 PM rue_mohr: I couldn't find a motorized fun
09:56 PM rue_mohr: gun
09:56 PM zhanx: mainly they are pneumatic
09:56 PM zhanx: only seen motorized grease guns
09:58 PM Tom_L: https://www.salvadori.com/upload/images/catalogo/685EL.jpg
09:58 PM rue_mohr: Connecting the FPGA board to it uses the following mapping:
09:58 PM rue_mohr: AD0 to TCK
09:58 PM rue_mohr: AD1 to TDI
09:58 PM rue_mohr: AD2 to TDO
09:58 PM rue_mohr: AD3 to TMS.
09:58 PM rue_mohr: The ADx pins are clearly labeled on the FT232H board, and the JTAG pins are clearly labeled on the FPGA board.
09:58 PM rue_mohr: When you have the ft232h chip, you should be able to run this as root to probe the jtag chain:
09:58 PM rue_mohr: xc3sprog -c ft232h -v -j
09:58 PM Tom_L: https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HLB1DjgCUwHqK1RjSZJnq6zNLpXaB/T2-hand-electric-tool-Extruder-gun-for.jpg_350x350.jpg
09:59 PM rue_mohr: friction welder isn't it?
09:59 PM zhanx: looks like it
09:59 PM rue_mohr: I mean something that meters out paste with like a stepper
10:01 PM Tom_L: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvkrqqzNoyxsgNoTaoIf-qsNdT11hdQBY1XKlOhPHMW4E2XGBj&s
10:01 PM rue_mohr: I'm gonna take a nap and then sleep all day
10:01 PM Tom_L: i'm gonna take a nap and get up at 3am
10:01 PM zhanx: i will be up at 5am
10:02 PM zhanx: i got that rare VA appt
10:02 PM rue_mohr: I might have to dial my alarm clock back for work
10:02 PM Tom_L: your file ever arrive?
10:02 PM rue_mohr: I'm almost consistantly 15 mins later than I should be
10:02 PM rue_mohr: oh..
10:02 PM rue_mohr: ... 0 bytes?
10:03 PM rue_mohr: 6538618880 Nov 22 19:33 Xilinx_ISE_DS_Lin_14.7_1015_1.tar
10:03 PM rue_mohr: apparently my computer is a jokester
10:03 PM Tom_L: yeah that's the right size
10:03 PM Tom_L: unzip it and install it before you quit
10:04 PM rue_mohr: hah, ok
10:04 PM rue_mohr: oo moving 6G between drives takes a while
10:04 PM Tom_L: aarg
10:05 PM rue_mohr: oh prolly cause I"m writing it to a software raid 1
10:05 PM Tom_L: mine are all ssd now except the server
10:07 PM Tom_L: oh
10:07 PM Tom_L: you need to download a license from their site too
10:07 PM Tom_L: i forgot to tell you that
10:07 PM Tom_L: it's free
10:09 PM rue_mohr: oh damn, I forgot about that
10:09 PM rue_mohr: tommorow?
10:09 PM Tom_L: wonder if mine would work
10:09 PM rue_mohr: I need sleepslightly more than food
10:10 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, got a crocpot?
10:10 PM rue_mohr: auto rice machine with a t13 based timer
10:10 PM rue_mohr: and I reflashed the teapot I can now set the runtime
10:10 PM zhanx: time it for oatmeal for the morning
10:10 PM rue_mohr: hmmm
10:11 PM rue_mohr: cant ahve oatmeal tho, terrible gas
10:11 PM zhanx: grits?
10:11 PM rue_mohr: which wouldn't be as bad if I weren't right above it
10:11 PM zhanx: i added a timer to pot for me, makes breakfast (as long as i remember to load it and clean it)
10:12 PM Tom_dev: https://xilinx.entitlenow.com/AcrossUser/main.gsp?product=&tab=&req_hash=&
10:12 PM rue_mohr: I need to make t13 based water dispencer
10:12 PM Tom_L: you want ISE Webpack Lincense
10:12 PM rue_mohr: ok
10:12 PM rue_mohr: sleep
10:12 PM rue_mohr: food
10:12 PM rue_mohr: liscence
10:12 PM zhanx: food will help you sleep
10:16 PM Tom_L: after you generate it, they email it to you