#garfield Logs
Jun 27 2019
#garfield Calendar
08:59 AM rue_mohr: --
01:35 PM Tom_L: ++
07:19 PM rue_mohr: power outage
07:19 PM rue_mohr: when I left the house to put the garbage out there was power, when I got back it was out
07:38 PM Tom_L: moral of the story: don't take the garbage out
07:39 PM Tom_L: zhanx, went back today with my form to have them make an alignment adjustment for me. they said 'come back tomorrow and we'll have some more samples for ya to test'
07:39 PM Tom_L: he _was_ gonna do it while i waited today but i told him i wasn't in that big a rush
07:40 PM Tom_L: the 2 printers i'm using (identical models) don't print quite the same vertically
07:41 PM Tom_L: i could probably jack with the light sensor on one but i'm not in the mood to dig into that yet
08:44 PM zhanx_ is now known as zhanx
08:55 PM zhanx_ is now known as zhanx
09:11 PM zhanx: Tom_L, ever pull a permit?
09:12 PM Tom_L: for what?
09:12 PM Tom_L: building?
09:12 PM zhanx: low voltage
09:12 PM zhanx: alarm wiring
09:12 PM Tom_L: no
09:12 PM Tom_L: do you need one for that?
09:13 PM zhanx: it looks like i might
09:13 PM Tom_L: i never asked on that in my house
09:14 PM Tom_L: you may need some type of cert for that being a contractor. i dunno
09:14 PM Tom_L: i did mine but i didn't ask
09:14 PM zhanx: http://www.nlvca.org/licensing/new_york.php
09:15 PM Tom_L: is it a fire alarm?
09:16 PM Tom_L: if not you don't need one
09:16 PM zhanx: i asked that, waiting on response
09:17 PM rue_mohr: mmmm
09:17 PM Tom_L: if you're a property owner you can do your own but not somebody else's
09:17 PM rue_mohr: technically you need a permit to add any wiring here
09:17 PM rue_mohr: and yea
09:17 PM Tom_L: 60 hr class for individuals
09:18 PM zhanx: yep
09:18 PM rue_mohr: oh
09:18 PM Tom_L: guess you know how to read too :)
09:18 PM zhanx: gonna have to take it i guess
09:18 PM rue_mohr: they dont do that here
09:18 PM rue_mohr: they just *must* inspect your work
09:18 PM Tom_L: you may need more than that as a contractor
09:19 PM rue_mohr: yea, there is a low votlage ticket here
09:19 PM zhanx: i am looking in to it of course now
09:19 PM rue_mohr: for, like plumbers
09:19 PM rue_mohr: the content is laughable
09:19 PM rue_mohr: for us
09:19 PM zhanx: k
09:19 PM Tom_L: i wouldn't do it after the fact though or they'll be on your ass from here on
09:20 PM zhanx: the low voltage stuff i am seeing is easy so far
09:20 PM rue_mohr: which of the following parts stores energy: resistor, switch, capacitor
09:20 PM zhanx: Tom_L, this is NY, they are too lazy to care
09:20 PM rue_mohr: and that
09:20 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, I am gonna choose RESISTOR!
09:20 PM Tom_L: there's always a noob out to prove a point
09:20 PM rue_mohr: "does anyone care" is a key thing
09:20 PM rue_mohr: we do fire inspections
09:21 PM zhanx: Tom_L, true
09:21 PM rue_mohr: and are pondering what to do about the compeditors who do improper work cheaper than us
09:21 PM rue_mohr: cause, nobody cares
09:21 PM zhanx: rue they don't its sad
09:21 PM Tom_L: when i did my basement i had one of those noobs
09:21 PM zhanx: I said i was not working today, well that didn't happen
09:22 PM zhanx: I had to work on a credit card router, I did all the call corroboration myself and fixed it before the lame ass tech understood why i was on site to reset the crypto key
09:23 PM rue_mohr: heh
09:23 PM zhanx: i was there to enable telnet on the cisco, and the colab was to secure the connection for the reset etc
09:25 PM zhanx: when i got the lame techs boss on the phone he was ordering taco bell, on a 5 person conference call, he was like oh crap
09:26 PM Tom_L: when they inspected my hvac ducts they asked _me_ if it was installed right
09:26 PM zhanx: really?
09:26 PM Tom_L: yup
09:27 PM Tom_L: she showed up in heels if that's any indication..
09:27 PM zhanx: ok
09:27 PM zhanx: wife is gonna be mad, i worked nonstop for the last 2 weeks, waiting on tons of payments and the business is broke
09:28 PM zhanx: I bought a ladder rack
09:28 PM Tom_L: better start collecting some of em
09:28 PM zhanx: net 30
09:29 PM zhanx: they always pay on time but its a waiting game
09:29 PM Tom_L: on some things i tell them i need payment on completion or sometimes half in advance if it's big
09:29 PM Tom_L: it's understood ahead of time
09:29 PM rue_mohr: oh damn, right
09:29 PM zhanx: same here, but I have been doing tons of little jobs minus the wal-mart
09:30 PM zhanx: the verizon job coming up is 25% in advance
09:30 PM Tom_L: you'll get a cash flow coming and it won't be so bad
09:30 PM Tom_L: just lags by 30
09:30 PM zhanx: well i had a spell of no work. yea
09:31 PM Tom_L: i'd also look into square and use it on small stuff if that's an option for you
09:31 PM zhanx: i have i
09:31 PM zhanx: it
09:32 PM Tom_L: it's one of the cheapest ones
09:32 PM Tom_L: i don't use the chip reader, it sucks
09:32 PM zhanx: i use it for pc repair stuff
09:32 PM Tom_L: always want's to do an update
09:32 PM Tom_L: but i don't use it alot
09:33 PM zhanx: my rate around here is 45 for the house call and 45 an hour and people love it. its 20 less than "joe's computer"
09:33 PM zhanx: i priced it like that for that reason
09:34 PM Tom_L: we're on the low end too but high enough to cover squares charge on any ticket even if they don't use it it's the same rate
09:34 PM zhanx: yep
09:35 PM Tom_L: that and i gave myself a raise in march
09:35 PM Tom_L: still lower than anyone else around here
09:35 PM zhanx: i fixed a phone tonight, dude was like how much said 45 since i am here, swipe and i will fix it
09:35 PM zhanx: he was mad as i spent less than 2 minutes and fix it
09:35 PM rue_mohr: I just overpaid my income tax by 1c, I hope it costs the bastards $50 to send me the penny back.
09:36 PM zhanx: lol
09:36 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, they won't
09:36 PM Tom_L: they'll apply it
09:37 PM rue_mohr: well, I can dream
09:37 PM rue_mohr: ok what else was I supposed to pay
09:37 PM rue_mohr: two hydro bills...
09:38 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, how's the first firing go?
09:38 PM rue_mohr: I left it with a light burn
09:39 PM rue_mohr: not as light as I wanted, cause the damn thing went out and then just about blew me into orbit when i relit it
09:39 PM rue_mohr: (yay propane)
09:39 PM zhanx: lol
09:39 PM Tom_L: heh
09:39 PM rue_mohr: and then this morning we had a torrential downpour of rain. the only rain we have seen in like 3 months
09:39 PM rue_mohr: DOWNPOUR
09:40 PM zhanx: Tom_L, seems the more i learn the more it costs me
09:40 PM zhanx: but i want it right
09:40 PM rue_mohr: before I could go to work I needed to adjust the flooding to keep it from destroying my driveway
09:40 PM Tom_L: yeah some things i don't know about licensing in your trade. rue would
09:40 PM Tom_L: seems you can't fart without a license anymore
09:40 PM zhanx: true
09:41 PM rue_mohr: see what a low votlage ticket costs
09:41 PM rue_mohr: make sure you HAVE to take the training, and that you cant just take the test for free anyhow
09:41 PM zhanx: I had a state trooper ask me today at subway if i had ladder training up to date
09:41 PM rue_mohr: you dont need the training
09:41 PM rue_mohr: you could probably pass L3 electrical test
09:42 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, would it be covered my my hvac cert and license?
09:42 PM rue_mohr: I challanged L1, the first question made me laugh, it totally took the edge off
09:42 PM rue_mohr: na, its electrical
09:42 PM zhanx: by my
09:42 PM zhanx: hvac is is electrical also
09:42 PM rue_mohr: its the workaround provision for data cablers and plumbers
09:43 PM zhanx: k
09:43 PM rue_mohr: and alarm installers
09:43 PM zhanx: so its a subset then
09:43 PM rue_mohr: "low voltage" aka under 600V :/
09:43 PM rue_mohr: like, srrsly?
09:44 PM Tom_L: there are voltages well above that
09:44 PM rue_mohr: damn shop electricity bill is $140
09:44 PM rue_mohr: wtf
09:44 PM zhanx: yea but low voltage is not 600v
09:44 PM Tom_L: playing too much
09:44 PM rue_mohr: "low votlage" is "under" 600
09:44 PM rue_mohr: iirc
09:44 PM Tom_L: you been running the cnc or 3d printers non stop?
09:44 PM rue_mohr: its stupid
09:44 PM zhanx: yep
09:45 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, maybe I forgot to pay the last bill?
09:45 PM rue_mohr: thats for two months
09:45 PM Tom_L: that's not bad for summer here
09:45 PM zhanx: Tom_L, can't read your bill rue_mohr ?
09:45 PM rue_mohr: so $70/mo
09:45 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, its not part of the email telling me the total
09:45 PM rue_mohr: I have no interesting in logging into ANOTHER website
09:45 PM zhanx: still Tom_L can't read that
09:46 PM zhanx: same here
09:46 PM rue_mohr: I wonder how much the solar took off the house bill thats $140
09:46 PM zhanx: watching the first democrat debate here
09:47 PM zhanx: its all anti trump, zero facts
09:47 PM Tom_L: mine is 126
09:47 PM rue_mohr: for one month or two?
09:47 PM Tom_L: one
09:47 PM Tom_L: i pay my bills sir
09:47 PM Tom_L: :)
09:48 PM zhanx: mine is 85 for one month, but that is going up with a/c usage
09:48 PM Tom_L: yeah ac is on alot here
09:48 PM Tom_L: gotta keep em all happy
09:48 PM rue_mohr: ok I think everything is paid
09:49 PM zhanx: ugh
09:49 PM rue_mohr: er, do the credit card later
09:49 PM rue_mohr: ok , I'm gonna add a javascript flag to the 404 page
09:49 PM zhanx: only thing up to date for me is the gas card, insurance and I have yet to get a paycheck
09:50 PM Tom_L: just paid car tags
09:50 PM Tom_L: that was ~600
09:50 PM rue_mohr: liscence?
09:50 PM rue_mohr: thats like $1200 here
09:50 PM Tom_L: that and property tax
09:50 PM Tom_L: for 3
09:51 PM zhanx: its 250 here for the cars
09:51 PM rue_mohr: fleet?
09:51 PM Tom_L: heh
09:51 PM Tom_L: no
09:51 PM rue_mohr: I have yet to hear of a group of friends doing fleet on their cars
09:51 PM rue_mohr: fake inc.
09:51 PM zhanx: i might
09:52 PM rue_mohr: aparently the savings are significant
09:52 PM rue_mohr: but so are the penalties
09:52 PM rue_mohr: 8-o
09:52 PM rue_mohr: I didn't backup my 404 page
09:52 PM zhanx: ok so
09:53 PM zhanx: in laws want me to take down the pool they have, tons of pvc and tee connectors
09:53 PM zhanx: all 1.5"
09:54 PM rue_mohr: hmm
09:54 PM Tom_L: sun baked?
09:54 PM zhanx: 5 years worth
09:54 PM Tom_L: probably not worth keeping
09:55 PM zhanx: hence why i brought it up
09:56 PM Tom_L: ac's been working great since the freeze up got thawed out
09:56 PM Tom_L: i think i let the filter go too long
09:56 PM zhanx: Tom_L, i got an email on servicing a panara bread tomorrow i trippled my rate
09:57 PM Tom_L: why?
09:57 PM zhanx: i like fridays off
09:57 PM Tom_L: mmm
09:57 PM zhanx: they took it
09:57 PM Tom_L: doing what?
09:58 PM zhanx: bump bar for the serving line broke, i have to drive 2 hours round trip for ten minutes of work
09:58 PM zhanx: i have to solder the cable and heat shrink it
09:59 PM zhanx: i responded back that high so they would not take it
10:00 PM rue_mohr: haha
10:00 PM rue_mohr: thats like 3 times now
10:00 PM Tom_L: you tell em it was your day off?
10:00 PM zhanx: i know
10:00 PM zhanx: yep
10:01 PM zhanx: the store is next to fort drum so its busy
10:03 PM Tom_L: they'll make it up in one day then
10:04 PM zhanx: yep
10:04 PM Tom_L: the gal at the print shop said that online thing would be the best way for you to get an accurate quote
10:05 PM rue_mohr: can script go in body?
10:05 PM rue_mohr: where does script to
10:05 PM rue_mohr: go
10:05 PM zhanx: i thought at the top rue
10:05 PM Tom_L: https://www.cusaprint.com/
10:05 PM rue_mohr: hmm
10:08 PM rue_mohr: <script type="text/javascript">
10:08 PM rue_mohr: var fourofour = 1;
10:08 PM rue_mohr: </script>
10:08 PM rue_mohr: lets see if the slideshow can find that
10:20 PM rue_mohr: where... did ... my iframe go?
10:20 PM rue_mohr: ugh
10:43 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, !
10:43 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, !
10:43 PM rue_mohr: I think it worked!!!
10:43 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc4/slide.htm
10:43 PM rue_mohr: has no readme.txt
10:43 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/3rdarm/slide.htm does
10:43 PM rue_mohr: it doesn't bring up the content of the 404 page now
10:44 PM rue_mohr: :)))
10:44 PM rue_mohr: yea?
10:47 PM zhanx: checking
10:48 PM zhanx: second link doesn't 404 text
10:48 PM rue_mohr: :)
10:48 PM rue_mohr: the 404 page has a clip of javascript that sets a flag.