#garfield Logs

Mar 05 2019

06:11 PM zhanx: Evening
06:15 PM zhanx: and rue_mohr I quit
06:15 PM zhanx: I am done!
06:15 PM Tom_L: don't give up just like that!!!
06:15 PM zhanx: who puts cameras in a cow pasture
06:15 PM Tom_L: farmers to prevent cow thieft?
06:15 PM Tom_L: or predators
06:15 PM zhanx: and they don't even have a computer!
06:17 PM zhanx: long day is all, and a call out to fix it
06:17 PM Tom_L: oh
06:17 PM zhanx: no computer, tablet or phone
06:17 PM Tom_L: just to a monitor?
06:18 PM zhanx: and alert
06:18 PM Tom_L: you got paid?
06:18 PM zhanx: will he signed the invoice
06:18 PM zhanx: i spent all day aiming and installing them
06:19 PM zhanx: at 5 i was like ok lets setup your computer
06:19 PM zhanx: Well i don't have one of them things
06:19 PM Tom_L: sell him one
06:19 PM zhanx: did
06:19 PM Tom_L: and you're still complaining?
06:19 PM zhanx: yep
06:20 PM Tom_L: ok
06:20 PM zhanx: my ladder smells etc
06:20 PM Tom_L: i'm wondering if i can turn these parts on my lathe then do the threads on the mill...
06:20 PM zhanx: not my normal work and i was wearing a suit
06:20 PM Tom_L: been thinking on that a bit
06:21 PM zhanx: CNC lathe or manual
06:21 PM Tom_L: manual
06:21 PM Tom_L: just bore a hole
06:21 PM Tom_L: and cut a counterbore for threads
06:22 PM zhanx: thats on you for precision
06:22 PM Tom_L: but it needs to be accurate
06:22 PM Tom_L: working on a softjaw fixture to put them in
06:22 PM Tom_L: so they should align ok
06:23 PM zhanx: brb kid is typing
06:28 PM zhanx: my keyboard lighting is programmable with hot keys, he loves it
07:28 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:56 PM zhanx: bet rue_mohr is laughing at
07:56 PM zhanx: me
08:00 PM rue_mohr: what broke that I'v improved and you didn't ask about till you installed?
08:00 PM rue_mohr: or ... something else?
08:00 PM rue_mohr: DID YOU STEP ON SOMETHING?
08:02 PM zhanx: i did
08:02 PM zhanx: y axis
08:02 PM zhanx: i didn't step on it, more leaned
08:02 PM zhanx: it broke
08:03 PM rue_mohr: the coupler?
08:03 PM zhanx: yep
08:03 PM zhanx: ok move that out of your mind
08:03 PM rue_mohr: didn't go to vynal pipe?
08:04 PM zhanx: no could not find the sizes
08:04 PM zhanx: i wish
08:05 PM zhanx: ok 3d printer is a side note now ok?
08:05 PM zhanx: we can work and improve that later together
08:06 PM zhanx: i have 4-5000 lines of hd opencv code messing with me
08:07 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, really i am stalled
08:07 PM zhanx: not in a good way
08:08 PM rue_mohr: with the printer or otehr stuff?
08:08 PM zhanx: opencv slam
08:08 PM zhanx: its kicking my butt
08:08 PM rue_mohr: I cant help you with that
08:09 PM zhanx: i know i have been at it 7 ways from sunday
08:09 PM zhanx: i will get it
08:10 PM zhanx: just on this work week and that i am like uggggeeeeeeeeeee
08:10 PM zhanx: my wife is pissed
08:11 PM zhanx: i drew on the closet doors
08:11 PM rue_mohr: because of opencv, the printer, or the workload
08:12 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, like you
08:12 PM zhanx: will pm
08:12 PM rue_mohr: but I dont ahve a wife
08:12 PM rue_mohr: I'm going to die alone
08:16 PM zhanx: i want hi-tech ai
08:17 PM zhanx: side not i was denied surgery again
08:17 PM zhanx: note
08:18 PM zhanx: i ordered a new soldering iron today after that
08:18 PM rue_mohr: they dont think you are broken or they dont think they can make it better than you are now?
08:19 PM zhanx: i am broken and they can't fix it better
08:19 PM rue_mohr: ah
08:19 PM rue_mohr: they put one of my buddies on drugs cause he's too young to operate on
08:20 PM rue_mohr: they drugs really screwed him up, he had to go off them
08:20 PM rue_mohr: so TSA is his only alternative
08:20 PM rue_mohr: system wont pay for it
08:20 PM zhanx: i never took the drugs
08:20 PM zhanx: so
08:21 PM rue_mohr: sorry THC... I thinkk
08:21 PM zhanx: my left shoulder is considered hung whatever that means
08:21 PM zhanx: after they told me to wait
08:22 PM zhanx: Tom_L, at least that farmer offered me a full time job now. could hear the wife in the background
08:23 PM rue_mohr: there is something wrong with me, I shouldnt be this exhausted all the time
08:23 PM zhanx: there is
08:23 PM rue_mohr: if I cant tell my doctor what it is, it wont get fixed
08:23 PM zhanx: well canada
08:24 PM rue_mohr: if I could dedicate 2 years to being in the medical system, I could get fixed up
08:24 PM rue_mohr: but I have a job
08:24 PM rue_mohr: hey, my freeq gen works
08:24 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, be happy tomorrow i get to stand again in half frozen horse shit
08:24 PM rue_mohr: planning to do the final boxing tonight
08:25 PM rue_mohr: did all the IT stuff dry up?
08:25 PM zhanx: its still it
08:25 PM zhanx: but not the IT i want
08:26 PM zhanx: on a bonus note i fixed the hospitals IT layer my wife works at
08:26 PM zhanx: too many seats etc
08:27 PM rue_mohr: maybe a quick nap
08:27 PM rue_mohr: this either works of severly fails
08:28 PM zhanx: some moron released the 06 class of sf with names
08:28 PM rue_mohr: sf?
08:28 PM zhanx: spec oo
08:28 PM zhanx: op
08:29 PM zhanx: wife is worried
08:29 PM rue_mohr: ???
08:29 PM Tom_L: full time doing what?
08:29 PM * Tom_L pulls up a chair and sips his tea
08:30 PM rue_mohr: crap I'm out of tea
08:30 PM zhanx: i have green thanks
08:30 PM * rue_mohr hands Tom_L a marshmellow and s spare stick
08:31 PM * rue_mohr puts a few drops of vert into zhanxs tea
08:32 PM zhanx: no need my old ass laughs at the reports
08:32 PM Tom_L: zhanx farmer wants you to scoop horse shit or teach him what a pc is??
08:33 PM zhanx: Tom_L, he bought 800 cameras and really i have zero clue why
08:33 PM Tom_L: wtf
08:33 PM rue_mohr: ...
08:33 PM rue_mohr: 800
08:33 PM Tom_L: heh
08:33 PM rue_mohr: eight with two zeros behind it?
08:33 PM zhanx: i did say all day
08:33 PM Tom_L: did you finish?
08:33 PM rue_mohr: analog, ethernet? wifi?
08:33 PM Tom_L: what's he lookin at?
08:34 PM zhanx: deer i think
08:34 PM rue_mohr: hoses from 8' horses from 3' hoses from 1'
08:34 PM rue_mohr: front of horses, back of horses
08:34 PM zhanx: seriously it was like wtf i quit
08:34 PM rue_mohr: analog, ethernet? wifi?
08:34 PM zhanx: i have no clue
08:34 PM zhanx: w
08:34 PM zhanx: wifi
08:34 PM rue_mohr: you didn't see them?
08:34 PM Tom_L: so you did quit? or just got frustrated?
08:35 PM zhanx: and no wifi router
08:35 PM rue_mohr: you.... cant put 800 wifi cameras.... in miles of each other
08:35 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, points out what killed me
08:35 PM Tom_L: hmm
08:35 PM rue_mohr: he wanted them all realtime streaming to his phone?
08:36 PM * Tom_L grins
08:36 PM rue_mohr: hey, at work the boss tried to install 5
08:36 PM zhanx: rue you mean his flip phone that has no screen?
08:36 PM rue_mohr: so far we had to upgrade the internet connection, replace the router, and install a second AP
08:36 PM rue_mohr: and they still lurch
08:36 PM rue_mohr: better yet, get this
08:37 PM zhanx: rue it needs a mesh network
08:37 PM rue_mohr: the dvr, downloads the video from the securrity site that the cameras upload to
08:37 PM zhanx: its 5000 acres plus
08:37 PM zhanx: i felt like a used car saleman
08:37 PM rue_mohr: for airports, they came up with a fiber optic cable with built in power conductors
08:38 PM rue_mohr: cant remember what length haul its good for
08:38 PM rue_mohr: (as far as the power goes)
08:38 PM rue_mohr: few thousand feet I think
08:39 PM rue_mohr: so, how long before those cameras go up for sale...
08:39 PM rue_mohr: 800 cameras over 5000 acres
08:39 PM Tom_L: how does he power them?
08:40 PM zhanx: solar
08:40 PM rue_mohr: 1 cam per 6+ acres
08:40 PM zhanx: 3 cameras per location
08:40 PM rue_mohr: yea, but its still not gonna cover much
08:40 PM zhanx: not my problem
08:40 PM rue_mohr: gee
08:41 PM rue_mohr: wifi repeaters falling out of sync in a small office are one thing
08:41 PM zhanx: this is not the first time with this
08:41 PM rue_mohr: I shudder to imagine a 5000 acre network
08:41 PM zhanx: i am going to the largest co-op tomorrow
08:41 PM zhanx: with all the toys
08:42 PM rue_mohr: so, your doing it or you said no!?
08:42 PM zhanx: i am follow my on this
08:42 PM rue_mohr: parse error
08:42 PM zhanx: doing all the farms not just 1
08:43 PM rue_mohr: huh
08:43 PM rue_mohr: so about how big is each farm?
08:43 PM zhanx: i will fail yes
08:43 PM rue_mohr: 20-40 acres?
08:43 PM zhanx: 100 - 35,000 acres
08:43 PM rue_mohr: oh
08:43 PM zhanx: i know i will fail
08:43 PM rue_mohr: so 5000 aces is the first one
08:44 PM zhanx: yes
08:44 PM rue_mohr: just make sure he wont come back at you
08:44 PM Tom_L: why are they doing this?
08:44 PM Tom_L: to map deer migration?
08:44 PM zhanx: Tom_L, watering levels
08:44 PM zhanx: rest is extra
08:44 PM rue_mohr: its not a horse farm?
08:44 PM Tom_L: can't they get that off satalite?
08:44 PM Tom_L: alot cheaper
08:45 PM zhanx: yep and i don't know
08:45 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, its too bad there isn't a guy who makes some kinda wifi mesh garden monitoring hardware they could use instead
08:45 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, weirdly i hope mine holds up
08:45 PM zhanx: i really do
08:45 PM rue_mohr: is it still out there?
08:46 PM * rue_mohr looks into the blanket of snow
08:46 PM zhanx: Tom_L, it rains but water level is different
08:46 PM zhanx: it is rue_mohr frozen solid
08:46 PM rue_mohr: crunch crunch
08:46 PM zhanx: if i can help crops, i will be happy
08:46 PM rue_mohr: it was a nice warm day yesterday here in canada
08:47 PM zhanx: -4f today here
08:47 PM rue_mohr: ok, so, they wont want streaming,they are going for intermittent high res images
08:47 PM rue_mohr: 1-4 images/day?
08:47 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, i can't answer that
08:47 PM rue_mohr: k
08:48 PM rue_mohr: but, not all of them streaming
08:48 PM zhanx: without a computer and having that who sold you it
08:48 PM rue_mohr: that would be an insane data rate
08:48 PM rue_mohr: do the cameras support opencv?
08:48 PM zhanx: ok the field next to my house
08:49 PM zhanx: 2 miles long
08:49 PM zhanx: triangle shaped
08:49 PM zhanx: ish
08:50 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/canuhearme.jpg
08:50 PM rue_mohr: my oppinion of wireless
08:50 PM zhanx: they wanted soil moisture is all
08:50 PM rue_mohr: with cameras?
08:50 PM zhanx: no cameras then
08:51 PM zhanx: really the cameras are odd for me
08:51 PM Tom_L: bbiab
08:51 PM Tom_L: gotta get the kid from work
08:52 PM zhanx: and you laugh at me Tom_L
08:52 PM zhanx: :P
08:52 PM rue_mohr: so, each node would need two directional long-haul and a unidirectional local
08:52 PM zhanx: no
08:53 PM rue_mohr: hopefully the data is tcp, cause your not likley to get any udp thru it
08:53 PM zhanx: well i am screwed then
08:53 PM rue_mohr: with all the ttl timers maxed out
08:53 PM rue_mohr: or repeating routers
08:54 PM zhanx: mesh
08:54 PM rue_mohr: yea, but whats the distance between two mesh nodes?
08:54 PM rue_mohr: 100'?
08:54 PM zhanx: 85'
08:54 PM rue_mohr: burn
08:54 PM rue_mohr: is that how far apart they want the cameras?
08:55 PM zhanx: no tractor turn raduis
08:55 PM rue_mohr: tractor turns in like 30-40' doesn't it?
08:55 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, unless i pace it out, no clue
08:56 PM zhanx: i didn't as i was pissed i was there etc
08:56 PM rue_mohr: as its a farm, it might be good if they are relocatable modules
08:57 PM zhanx: yep
08:57 PM rue_mohr: concrete block:pole: stuff on top
08:57 PM rue_mohr: ID number on each
08:57 PM zhanx: not concrete
08:57 PM zhanx: cone
08:57 PM rue_mohr: I'm assuming about 10-12' tall
08:57 PM zhanx: 14-18'
08:57 PM rue_mohr: tractors move concrete blocks around ok
08:58 PM rue_mohr: huh
08:58 PM rue_mohr: batteries will last 3-5yrs
08:58 PM rue_mohr: prolly closer to 3
08:59 PM rue_mohr: wonder what the draw is for all that
08:59 PM zhanx: stage zero
09:02 PM rue_mohr: I'm guessing 4A
09:02 PM rue_mohr: 48w
09:03 PM rue_mohr: duty of sun in summer might be 16:8
09:03 PM rue_mohr: so 600w solar panel
09:04 PM zhanx: 450w
09:04 PM zhanx: ish
09:04 PM rue_mohr: 4A/8hrs, from 100% to 80%, so, battery size would be...
09:05 PM zhanx: 18650x 4 = 12
09:40 PM Tom_L: hmm