#garfield Logs

Dec 27 2018

06:51 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold.jpg
06:55 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/sugar_mold_assy.jpg
06:55 PM furrywolf: sugar mold?
06:55 PM Tom_L: should have a screw fitting instead so you can injection mold it
07:00 PM rue_shop1: C clamps
07:00 PM rue_shop1: ooooo
07:01 PM rue_shop1: furrywolf, sugar sticks for glue guns
07:01 PM rue_shop1: isomalt
07:02 PM Tom_L: better hurry up and get your mill done now
07:03 PM furrywolf: I... don't get it. you want to put sugar into a hot glue gun?
07:03 PM Tom_L: of course
07:03 PM Tom_L: making tea stir sticks !!
07:03 PM Tom_L: i didn't ask. i just fulfilled the request
07:05 PM Tom_L: so to separate it, drill & tap a hole beside 2 ajacent pin holes on one side then use a bolt to push them apart
07:06 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/sumo_files/mold4.jpg
07:06 PM Tom_L: like that
07:06 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/sumo_files/mini_wheel1.jpg
07:07 PM Tom_L: end part in case you wondered
07:09 PM rue_shop1: furrywolf, its for 3d printing sugar
07:10 PM rue_shop1: Tom_L, it should fit in the sherline tho, yes?
07:10 PM rue_shop1: all I need is some 1/4? 5/16? plate?
07:10 PM furrywolf: try SLSing sugar. :)
07:11 PM rue_shop1: isomalt(sugar) glue sticks DO exist, but I can only find one source and they aren't available from them
07:12 PM rue_shop1: that shape isn't within the 2.5D I can do, so if I want to machine it from plate using the sherline, I need toms help
07:12 PM rue_shop1: Tom_L, is that finished enough to build Gcode for?
07:13 PM rue_shop1: if we assume mostly done with a 3mm bull nose?
07:15 PM rue_shop1: uh, where did my bullnose bits go?.....
07:16 PM furrywolf: I have a few. none are metric. heh.
07:16 PM Tom_L: that's 1/2" plate
07:17 PM Tom_L: personally, i would drill the holes from the end with the plates clamped together then mill the 'fill' slots
07:17 PM Tom_L: and plug the end with grub screws with a hole in them to vent
07:18 PM rue_shop1: well I'm not sure if I got 3mm of 1/8
07:18 PM rue_shop1: tho honestly, one of the last times I got 1/8 from china it was 3mm
07:18 PM rue_shop1: fancy
07:18 PM furrywolf: that's one reason not to order from china.
07:19 PM rue_shop1: well, I dont mind 3mm, but a program expecting a 1/8" and a job done with 3mm dont match up too well
07:20 PM rue_shop1: http://ruemohr.org/%7Eircjunk/images/china-shipping-arg.png
07:20 PM rue_shop1: besides ^^
07:20 PM rue_shop1: $16 for 20 t13's would be bad enough
07:21 PM rue_shop1: I'll see if I can camp out long enough for china to think up a counter measure
07:22 PM rue_shop1: back to stripping parts off scavanged boards tho
07:23 PM rue_shop1: I wonder if it applies to tiwan too
07:27 PM rue_shop1: I wonder if it'll put cosco out of business
07:30 PM Tom_L: kinda hope so
07:31 PM rue_shop1: but there are a lot of people who can only afford to shop there
07:31 PM rue_shop1: its a cyclic problem
07:31 PM Tom_L: i'd rather shop at sam's than costco
07:32 PM rue_shop1: yes, you hava choice
07:32 PM rue_shop1: lots of people done
07:32 PM rue_shop1: dont
07:32 PM rue_shop1: its gonna make the poor poorer
07:32 PM Tom_L: i got a bunch of led bulbs from them and every single one is bad now
07:32 PM furrywolf: I shop at costco.
07:32 PM rue_shop1: esp those who work at cosco, and have been widdled down to a wage where they can only afford to live by buying from cosco
07:32 PM Tom_L: about all i get from them now is pizza
07:33 PM furrywolf: they usually have relatively high-quality items at good prices
07:33 PM furrywolf: and they treat their staff well
07:33 PM Tom_L: they're prices are no better than sam's
07:33 PM Tom_L: sam's has better meat
07:33 PM furrywolf: does sams treat their employees so well that they never, ever quit? heh
07:34 PM furrywolf: here, at least, _no one_ leaves costco.
07:34 PM Tom_L: don't take the job to begin with
07:34 PM Tom_L: you as an employee should find these things out going in
07:35 PM furrywolf: I knew someone who worked part-time in their food court, in addition to his day job at interstate battery, because costco gives even part-time workers full family health insurance, even if they're only in an hour a day...
07:35 PM rue_shop1: I got a buddy working 2 jobs and he doesn't even have ends to make meet
07:35 PM rue_shop1: but their not
07:35 PM Tom_L: walmart hires quite a few ppl that otherwise would go unemployed
07:35 PM rue_shop1: walmart and cosco are in the same bin as far as I'm concerned
07:36 PM furrywolf: cosco or costco?
07:36 PM Tom_L: i'm referring to the latter
07:37 PM furrywolf: I know you are; I'm wondering what rue is talking about, since he keeps saying cosco....
07:37 PM rue_shop1: there are both?
07:37 PM Tom_L: i guess so, i dunno what you have up there
07:37 PM furrywolf: cosco makes things like ladders, storage bins, etc.
07:38 PM Tom_L: whole foods has gone down hill some since amazon bought them too
07:38 PM Tom_L: ford, chevy and a few others are cutting about half their selection
07:39 PM Tom_L: basically crossovers and trucks is all that will be left
07:39 PM furrywolf: I used to deliver to costco in the morning before they opened, and based on talking to their staff, I'm a big fan of them.
07:39 PM rue_shop1: yea, fuel (I know you dont beleive me)
07:40 PM Tom_L: i think the market is saturated
07:40 PM rue_shop1: less new vehicles are being bought because of fuel costs
07:41 PM Tom_L: https://www.businessinsider.com/cars-being-discontinued-in-2018-2019-2020-2018-8#5-chevrolet-sonic-expected-to-be-discontinued-as-early-as-2018-5
07:42 PM * furrywolf googles and finds that sam's club, unsurprisingly, often mistreats workers.
07:42 PM Tom_L: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/13/discontinued-15-cars-and-trucks-automakers-dropping-2018/932947001/
07:43 PM * furrywolf googles further and finds costco is rated as "exceptional" with all 5-star reviews
07:45 PM furrywolf: 30% higher pay, too
07:45 PM Tom_L: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/26/ford-is-basically-giving-up-on-us-car-business-and-gm-is-not-far-behind.html
07:47 PM furrywolf: so, after further research, my opinion that costco treats their employees far better than sam's club is confirmed.
07:47 PM Tom_L: i never doubted it
07:47 PM furrywolf: also, at the sam's club where I lived at one point (there's none here), costco usually had a lot more of the things I wanted, which were generally higher-quality products.
07:51 PM furrywolf: I don't buy cheap artifical food-like substances...
07:55 PM rue_mohr: just think, tesla is ramping up
07:56 PM rue_mohr: pretty sure tesla still cant keep up with orders
07:58 PM furrywolf: I'd never buy an american car anyway...
07:58 PM furrywolf: japan simply does a much better job.
07:59 PM rue_mohr: yay, no more FROD F950 ads?
08:00 PM furrywolf: ford has been pissing me off lately with their europe-based vehicles, like killing their good full-size vans and replacing them with the ugly-as-fuck transits...
08:00 PM furrywolf: with sideways engines.
08:04 PM furrywolf: ford still makes the best trucks, but they completely tossed away their van crown with the transit idiocy.
08:08 PM furrywolf: there's a couple of the new transits at work, and everyone hates them... maybe they're acceptable for downtown london, but they should be illegal here.
08:09 PM furrywolf: their full-size-van market share has dropped from 80% to 57% in three years because of the transit, and it's still going down.
08:09 PM furrywolf: so... fuck ford.
08:13 PM rue_mohr: do they hate the way they pull, delay, or fail when tilted?
08:13 PM rue_mohr: or how somehow only the 2 fastest wiper timing settings are usable
08:14 PM furrywolf: or how they can't go up hills, because the engine is a third the size it needs to be
08:15 PM rue_mohr: or how they ding about EVERYTHING
08:16 PM rue_mohr: they always go for overdrive too, tend to cogg the engine quite badly
08:16 PM rue_mohr: it complains if you turn overdrive off
08:17 PM furrywolf: sounds like you have the misfortune to own one.
08:17 PM rue_mohr: nope, work truck
08:21 PM furrywolf: the prices of e-series vans have gone up noticably the last few years. heh.
09:11 PM furrywolf: https://www.thedailybeast.com/power-plant-explosion-turns-nyc-sky-neon-blue
09:13 PM furrywolf: https://twitter.com/nypd114pct/status/1078478653506375681?s=21
09:20 PM * Tom_L looks over at his bicycle
09:22 PM Tom_L: made a pretty picture :)
09:23 PM furrywolf: I can only imagine they're for some reason letting it arc continually
09:23 PM furrywolf: hoping it self-extinguishes rather than having to kill power to the whole area or something...
09:23 PM furrywolf: I can't imagine any transformer oil burning with that color light...
09:23 PM furrywolf: or maybe whatever breakers were supposed to kill it were supposed to open, and they'd have to kill the east coast grid...
09:24 PM furrywolf: (and didn't open)
09:32 PM furrywolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW6ds6kqmxg
09:38 PM zhanx_: Evening
09:38 PM zhanx_: rue no
09:40 PM zhanx_: printing with white for the first time
09:59 PM Tom_L: does it print different than the colors?
10:00 PM zhanx_: no it looks the same
10:01 PM zhanx_: i figured with heat it would be off etc
11:39 PM rue_mohr: so zhanx_