#garfield Logs
Dec 05 2018
#garfield Calendar
08:59 PM zhanx: spent the day sorting lego mindstorms and making a mars rover with the kids
09:03 PM zhanx: Curiosity
09:03 PM * furrywolf has neither kids nor legos
09:03 PM zhanx: I have lots and lots of mindstorm stuff now
09:03 PM zhanx: furrywolf, they of course are made for kids but are fun
09:04 PM furrywolf: strapon sex has a very low pregnancy risk. :)
09:04 PM zhanx: that .000000000000001% might get you
09:05 PM zhanx: There was a man on the corner with a sign saying jesus will return so you need to watch out for that also
09:05 PM zhanx: i think he showered last time it rained
10:19 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, moon asks if he could have some mindstorms sensors
10:20 PM * furrywolf misses kat
10:20 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, which ones
10:20 PM furrywolf: the ones that sense and are free
10:20 PM rue_mohr: he has oen controller, what dont you mind to spare?
10:20 PM zhanx: we are making the rover so using a few but I have a few
10:21 PM zhanx: tell him to hop on
10:21 PM zhanx: I got 11 ping sensors, 1 color sensor, 8 touch sensors, 1 metal rod thing
10:22 PM zhanx: i have 10 controllers
10:22 PM zhanx: 18 large motors, 1 small
10:23 PM zhanx: I can lay out tomorrow, keep the stuff I need for the rover, and one more bot and send a pic of the rest
10:23 PM zhanx: I still have to open 8 more boxes at the brother in laws house also
10:24 PM furrywolf: last time I saw lego motors, they were round and ran off 3 C cells... I've heard things have rather changed. :P
10:24 PM zhanx: furrywolf, yep
10:24 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, on his way
10:25 PM zhanx: k
10:25 PM zhanx: l
10:25 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, yea, mine were black and about the size of a cellphone
10:25 PM rue_mohr: but thicker
10:25 PM zhanx: I have a box of the rubber tracks also
10:26 PM rue_mohr: iirc I killed them all
10:26 PM rue_mohr: I got the idea that margerin was a good lubricant
10:26 PM zhanx: hey __M00N__
10:26 PM rue_mohr: but I think I still have one or two power packs
10:26 PM __M00N__: Hay zhanx
10:26 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, with the 2 pin cables
10:26 PM zhanx: got 11 ping sensors, 1 color sensor, 8 touch sensors, 1 metal rod thing
10:26 PM zhanx: <zhanx> i have 10 controllers
10:26 PM zhanx: <zhanx> 18 large motors, 1 small
10:26 PM zhanx: <zhanx> I can lay out tomorrow, keep the stuff I need for the rover, and one more bot and send a pic of the rest
10:26 PM zhanx: <zhanx> I still have to open 8 more boxes at the brother in laws house also
10:26 PM zhanx: I have a ton of the cables also
10:26 PM __M00N__: thanks for putting aside some lego stuff
10:26 PM rue_mohr: we have a few cables in the box for his tho, yea?
10:27 PM zhanx: no problem it will go in rue's box
10:27 PM __M00N__: cool
10:27 PM zhanx: rue already put in 10
10:27 PM furrywolf: I was playing with a younger relative a very long time ago (back when such motors were current), and managed to melt an axle into a brick... lubricant would have been a good idea.
10:27 PM rue_mohr: yea, which sensors did you want moon?
10:27 PM zhanx: and __M00N__ link to what they look like?
10:27 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, I melted in axles all the time
10:27 PM rue_mohr: I was bad for that
10:28 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, https://codepen.io/mimikos/pen/QMjjzy none of these damn examples actually work
10:28 PM __M00N__: im thinking a bump sensor and one of those sonic ones
10:28 PM zhanx: the touch sensor?
10:28 PM furrywolf: also twisted a number of axles, broke out gear hubs, etc... then got to give a "back in myyyyy day, we had 'rector sets, and by golly, they were made of METAL, and you just didn't twist and melt things like this new-fangled plastic crap..." rants.
10:28 PM zhanx: ok, i can do that
10:28 PM __M00N__: its for my step son im not "in the know"
10:29 PM __M00N__: one is like a switch
10:29 PM __M00N__: (button)
10:29 PM zhanx: moon I think i can send more than 1 of each, I just need to layout the rover we are make and the line bot
10:29 PM zhanx: ok yep I have some of them
10:30 PM zhanx: need any bricks?
10:30 PM zhanx: any power supplies
10:30 PM __M00N__: I could use a brick yes
10:30 PM zhanx: ok I tested 10 today that work
10:30 PM zhanx: I would think it all works
10:31 PM furrywolf: I need enough bricks to build a soundproof wall between here and my neighbor's house, so I can go to bed when I'm tired (i.e. now), not when they decided to stop being loud (i.e. 3am).
10:31 PM __M00N__: oh?
10:31 PM zhanx: __M00N__, rue did tell you i got like most of a 40 seat lab?
10:31 PM zhanx: for beginner stuff
10:32 PM __M00N__: yeah he said it was from a university?
10:32 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, gnight
10:32 PM zhanx: yep
10:32 PM furrywolf: rue_mohr: not going to bed yet. not allowed to.
10:33 PM zhanx: __M00N__, find out tomorrow what you need for sure so I don't short you on it
10:33 PM __M00N__: ok ill look up what they actually are right now
10:33 PM zhanx: I am gonna label the box traveling hackerspace educational stuff
10:33 PM zhanx: then boot it to rue friday
10:34 PM zhanx: I have to be next the us/canada border then in the morning so i can hop over and mail it cheaper
10:35 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, I suppose if there are too many of anything else, throw em in as filler
10:35 PM zhanx: k
10:35 PM rue_mohr: tell me what the postage comes to atleast eh?
10:35 PM zhanx: maybe
10:35 PM zhanx: you send me stuff all the time, I can do the same
10:36 PM zhanx: oh __M00N__ I also have some another stuff
10:36 PM __M00N__: well it looks like I need NXT or EV3 stuff, is that what you have zhanx?
10:37 PM zhanx: its NXT and Ev3 special stuff
10:37 PM zhanx: ir stobes
10:37 PM zhanx: motor drivers for real motors
10:37 PM __M00N__: OH what!
10:37 PM zhanx: yep
10:37 PM __M00N__: id take some of that
10:37 PM zhanx: I have a IR strobe kit for drones
10:37 PM zhanx: for location
10:38 PM zhanx: there are 5 or 6 of them
10:38 PM zhanx: i have to count the motor drivers, I have a box
10:39 PM zhanx: __M00N__, this was all prepacked for me, I just had to haul so everything is not 100% there or found yet
10:39 PM __M00N__: OK well im coming up with a mental list here, can I compensate you with anything?
10:40 PM furrywolf: have you gotten my robot arm yet? :P
10:40 PM zhanx: later on maybe
10:40 PM __M00N__: ok
10:40 PM __M00N__: i run into engine things sometimes
10:40 PM zhanx: furrywolf, I was not allowed to take that, I wanted it!
10:40 PM zhanx: __M00N__, I have a 5 parts bin I have yet to open
10:40 PM zhanx: 5 foot
10:40 PM __M00N__: wow
10:40 PM furrywolf: bah :(
10:41 PM zhanx: I have 100+ logitech usb controllers if you want one
10:41 PM furrywolf: the one thing you mentioned that I could use... :)
10:41 PM zhanx: furrywolf, the one thing everyone wanted also
10:42 PM zhanx: __M00N__, i got the camera system for the drones also but I am keeping that
10:42 PM __M00N__: ok I will go for two touch sensors , two ultrasonic sensors, two servo motors, and a controller brick and some fancy drivers if thats not to much to ask i just want the basics
10:43 PM furrywolf: heh. a co-worker used to work as a contractor for a state agency, and they all had a habit of... claiming surplus equipment at the end of each job. without telling anyone, of course.
10:43 PM zhanx: __M00N__, k
10:43 PM furrywolf: one day he was eying their new plasma cutter.... and his boss walks up... "nooooope. that's going home with ME."
10:43 PM __M00N__: cool thanks, what are the chances you need a OHV honda lawnmower motor
10:44 PM zhanx: __M00N__, zero
10:44 PM __M00N__: :P
10:44 PM furrywolf: vertical shaft? scrap it.
10:44 PM __M00N__: Ha
10:44 PM __M00N__: they bonk along good
10:44 PM zhanx: oh
10:45 PM __M00N__: I Jimmy'd one onto a craftsman ride on mover without a deck once
10:45 PM __M00N__: mower*
10:45 PM zhanx: __M00N__, goto to sparkfun.com photon particles with oled and battery charger, I have 10 working sets, rue is getting one, want one?
10:45 PM __M00N__: ill look
10:46 PM zhanx: out of 20+ only 10 worked
10:46 PM zhanx: never checked the charger boards but none of them are burnt
10:47 PM rue_mohr: I wonder what they did to them
10:47 PM __M00N__: is that this arm board with wifi?
10:47 PM zhanx: yep
10:47 PM __M00N__: yeah im in
10:48 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, no clue but they didn't power on for most
10:48 PM rue_mohr: throw I few in, I'll see if I can do anyting
10:48 PM zhanx: some of the oleds were cracked so i tossed them also
10:48 PM __M00N__: i could allways blast more invisible light around
10:48 PM zhanx: trash / recycling is gone already, but I will toss in anymore i find by then
10:49 PM rue_mohr: that reminds me, i ahve to go thru the ~27 scrap exit fixtures and see if there is anything worth scavanging
10:49 PM zhanx: really rue, i don't know what i want to do with them (the working boards)
10:50 PM rue_mohr: your automation netwokr?
10:50 PM zhanx: its full of esp8266's
10:50 PM zhanx: i mean i could add too it
10:50 PM zhanx: but screens in a garden?
10:50 PM furrywolf: sigh... this is like the fifth time someone on irc said they could find me a robot arm... :P
10:50 PM rue_mohr: :) na
10:51 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, I got an arm that needs a home
10:51 PM __M00N__: what about rue's big arm
10:51 PM zhanx: furrywolf, I got one of 2 arms, I am keeping the little one
10:51 PM __M00N__: yeah
10:51 PM zhanx: oh
10:51 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm5/p1030724.jpg
10:51 PM furrywolf: rue_mohr: how dangerous? like "toss small electronics parts around the room", or "toss small cars around the room"?
10:51 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, ^
10:51 PM zhanx: __M00N__, windows users?
10:51 PM __M00N__: not me
10:51 PM zhanx: k
10:51 PM rue_mohr: the kids built it, its too big
10:52 PM furrywolf: that is... too small and too thin.
10:52 PM zhanx: I got a NI roboRIO board industrial one
10:52 PM zhanx: selling that
10:52 PM furrywolf: and, since those look like screw actuators, I'm guessing too ungodly slow.
10:52 PM rue_mohr: hospital bed
10:53 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm5/p1030984.jpg
10:53 PM furrywolf: that's a pretty nice shop you have there, though.
10:53 PM rue_mohr: I guess thats it on the base
10:53 PM furrywolf: yeah... hospital beds aren't exactly known for lightning speed.
10:53 PM zhanx: wonder why
10:54 PM zhanx: hey mister jones you have a broken back, let me elevate you
10:54 PM __M00N__: XD
10:54 PM rue_mohr: iirc 600kg tho
10:54 PM furrywolf: also, I bet they can crumple that steel box like tin foil.
10:54 PM rue_mohr: it can crush cans :)
10:54 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, barely strong enough to move an average american then
10:55 PM rue_mohr: I wonder what came first, the whales migration to water or its size
10:56 PM zhanx: in America it was Mcdonald's and welfare
10:56 PM rue_mohr: that explains the 99c burger
10:56 PM zhanx: I was in the store today, 4 tomatoes, 1 onion, 2avacado's and a bag of apples was 19 dollars
10:57 PM zhanx: the large lady in front of me got 12 boxes premade meals cheaper
10:57 PM rue_mohr: prolly took $17 in fuel to get to the store
10:57 PM zhanx: no this is not canada
10:57 PM rue_mohr: yea, the premade stuff being 40% cardboard filler
10:58 PM furrywolf: how the hell did you spend $19 on $4 of food?
10:58 PM rue_mohr: "organic" ?
10:58 PM zhanx: yes i eat meat, but nothing I eat comes out of a can or box, furrywolf NY state tax on fresh stuff
10:58 PM furrywolf: apples are free here, as long as they're in season... and only slightly above free in stores.
10:58 PM furrywolf: they can't sell them fast enough
10:58 PM rue_mohr: ah "your not supporting our food laborors" tax
10:58 PM __M00N__: well i better get to bed, thanks again zhanx, let me know if you ever need canadian cigarettes or something.
10:58 PM zhanx: 3.99 for a small bag
10:59 PM furrywolf: out of season the price goes up.... but right now it's apple season.
10:59 PM zhanx: furrywolf, its why my garden is 1 acre
10:59 PM zhanx: no prob __M00N__
10:59 PM furrywolf: also, if you're getting pre-made meals that cheaply, you're buying total shit.
10:59 PM zhanx: for lettuce its 2.99 a head
11:00 PM furrywolf: even stoufers is $3+/each.... and the actually good ones (amy's, sukhi's, etc) are $6....
11:00 PM zhanx: I grow it from spring to late fall for about 10 dollars total
11:00 PM furrywolf: I've given up on growing lettuce. the insects eat it faster than I can grow it.
11:00 PM zhanx: I give it away daily in the summer
11:00 PM furrywolf: and slugs, snails, deer, rats, neighbors,....
11:01 PM zhanx: lol
11:01 PM furrywolf: only things I have right now are peppers and onions, plus the big lemon and grape.
11:01 PM furrywolf: grape isn't in season, though.
11:01 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, slugs, snails, deer, rats, neighbors,.... these sound like fine protine sources...
11:01 PM furrywolf: I had tomatos until two weeks ago.... first frost killed them.
11:02 PM zhanx: yea grapes were 3.99 a pound i passed on them
11:02 PM furrywolf: peppers are much, much more cold-tolerant.
11:02 PM furrywolf: few dead leaves on the peppers... every tomato plant completely dead.
11:02 PM zhanx: i have had snoow for longer than that furrywolf
11:03 PM furrywolf: I've never seen snow here.
11:03 PM zhanx: my first hard frost was 7 weeks ago
11:03 PM zhanx: it was early
11:04 PM furrywolf: it got cold enough here there was a bit of ice on buckets and such, but not a hard freeze.
11:05 PM furrywolf: a mild freeze
11:05 PM rue_mohr: !!! damnit, the boiler!
11:05 PM zhanx: furrywolf, I also live in the mountains of up state ny
11:05 PM furrywolf: I live on the coast in california. :P
11:06 PM zhanx: no difference at all
11:07 PM zhanx: when rue gets back
11:07 PM zhanx: omniwheels
11:07 PM zhanx: triangle bot
11:07 PM zhanx: do's and don'ts
11:08 PM furrywolf: I need a set of good mecanum wheels if you find any.
11:08 PM rue_mohr: ?
11:08 PM rue_mohr: hmm, its at 35c
11:08 PM zhanx: rue the aluminum arm with the base
11:08 PM zhanx: I need to start on it
11:08 PM rue_mohr: tonight will go to -2, should I leave the circ pump on...
11:08 PM zhanx: yes
11:08 PM rue_mohr: ok
11:09 PM zhanx: or i can build it and have you say its wrong later
11:10 PM rue_mohr: ouch pesimism
11:10 PM zhanx: see furrywolf I told you rue has no sense of humor
11:11 PM rue_mohr: its just loaned out
11:11 PM zhanx: since 06
11:11 PM zhanx: no but really, i am gonna clamp with quick clamps some stuff together for you to look at tomorrow
11:11 PM rue_mohr: its on a space station where theres a whole bunch of geek aliens hacking, building stuff, and generally having an awesome time
11:12 PM zhanx: read that as greek and 6 pack aliens
11:13 PM rue_mohr: alien packs are 7
11:13 PM zhanx: batman is 9
11:13 PM rue_mohr: packed like stranded wire
11:13 PM zhanx: lego movie told me so
11:13 PM furrywolf: I want to go to bed. :(
11:13 PM furrywolf: I so badly fucking wish I could move.
11:13 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, hows your css?
11:15 PM furrywolf: not bad, not great
11:16 PM zhanx: mine is bad
11:16 PM zhanx: almost never use it
11:16 PM rue_mohr: darn, I'm trying to code and falling asleep
11:16 PM furrywolf: what are you trying to code?
11:16 PM furrywolf: I'm falling asleep too, but my neighbors are blasting something, so I'm not allowed to go to bed.
11:17 PM rue_mohr: there is a cinema effect I wanted to apply to my title page, but the css dosn't work even if I just put the example as-is on my machine
11:17 PM zhanx: maybe its the ranger in my, but if someone is doing something I don't like i say something
11:17 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, make sure you leave your radio blasting in the morning after your up
11:17 PM furrywolf: I don't know what a cinema effect is.
11:18 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, think silent movie
11:18 PM furrywolf: zhanx: I've said something about six hundred times.
11:18 PM furrywolf: they do not care in the slightest.
11:18 PM furrywolf: all they care about is growing dope.
11:18 PM zhanx: k, maybe its the fact i am the size of a door they listen
11:18 PM rue_mohr: bit of flicker, but of black-leakage, that stupid little hair, the occasional scratch
11:20 PM furrywolf: zhanx: a violent confrontation would be a bad idea. pot growers are __always__ armed.
11:20 PM zhanx: normally i would say and? but i know what you mean and its not your lane
11:21 PM rue_mohr: furrywolf, you know how to remove a power meter?
11:21 PM rue_mohr: have a black suit?
11:21 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, why remove it, vs tap it
11:21 PM rue_mohr: you have about 5 mins before they figure it out
11:22 PM zhanx: If i was furry, i would play its a small world after all from 5 am to 5 pm daily on repeat
11:23 PM rue_mohr: if its about 12" behind their wheel, they will hit it with enough speed to break it
11:23 PM rue_mohr: Ithink furrywolf is saying they dont live there, they party there
11:23 PM rue_mohr: at night
11:24 PM zhanx: shame what bad wiring does to a house
11:25 PM rue_mohr: yea, thos GFI recepticles been starting fires all over the place when installed outdoors
11:25 PM furrywolf: of course they live there
11:26 PM rue_mohr: and because the fire starts outside the house, it doesn't immediatoly set off the smoke alarm, usualy the fire makes it up ito the eave/roof before its severe enough to set something off
11:26 PM rue_mohr: one place up here, had the plastic sprinkler piping burst before anything else
11:29 PM zhanx: so the muller probe is winding down rue
11:30 PM zhanx: now the real fun beings as liberals in america who backed him the whole time freak out
11:33 PM furrywolf: bbl, attempting to sleep with the racket... sigh...