#garfield Logs

Sep 18 2018

08:56 AM rue_mohr: zhanx, it looks like the ota stuff may be missing here
08:59 AM rue_mohr: zhanx, the 8266 is v2.4.2 does that sound right?
07:56 PM zhanx: making custom cables for tomorrow. here but sitting at the desk pining out test setups
08:04 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, so, it looks like ota stuff is missing from the 8266 library I got
08:04 PM rue_mohr: do you have a espota.py on your system?
08:07 PM zhanx: yes
08:08 PM zhanx: ~/.arduino15/packages/esp8266/hardware/esp8266/2.4.2/tools
08:09 PM rue_mohr: huh
08:09 PM rue_mohr: I dont have that
08:09 PM zhanx: weird
08:09 PM rue_mohr: yea
08:09 PM rue_mohr: I suspect thats REALLY important to the ota working
08:09 PM zhanx: i need another tool bag for custom stuff :(
08:09 PM rue_mohr: like wheels on a car
08:10 PM zhanx: yep
08:17 PM zhanx: what i if told you
08:17 PM zhanx: you read that wrong
08:18 PM rue_mohr: hu?
08:18 PM rue_mohr: I'm reading so much
08:18 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, its a joke
08:19 PM zhanx: kind of like electricians strip for a living to make ends meet
08:20 PM rue_mohr: for many people alcohol is a problem, but for chemists, its a solution.
08:22 PM zhanx: not a chemist but I think that is correct
08:22 PM zhanx: wait i get it
08:22 PM rue_mohr: few levels to that one eh?
08:31 PM zhanx: -150 ft Cable should cabling be required <- list of materials needed for this job tomorrow. The in scope of work. 2 runs. Tech must insure they do not exceed 6' from POTS location
08:31 PM zhanx: umm why do I need 150 ft of cable? Granted I have a bit more than that.
08:32 PM Tom_L: point of termination?
08:33 PM zhanx: beats me the instructions from At&t read like they used google translate to write them
08:33 PM rue_mohr: used @
08:33 PM rue_mohr: why 6' ?
08:33 PM rue_mohr: oooh ok
08:34 PM Tom_L: 89�F
08:34 PM rue_mohr: so demarc<- 150' -> jack <- 6' max -> device
08:34 PM zhanx: installing CDS-9070's tomorrow
08:35 PM rue_mohr: // demarc/network panel/
08:35 PM rue_mohr: as POTS I assume phone line
08:35 PM zhanx: it is
08:36 PM rue_mohr: I'm gonna go draw chalk lines on the roof
08:36 PM Tom_L: you tryin to communicate with aliens?
08:37 PM zhanx: gonna land drones on it?
08:38 PM rue_mohr: solar cells
08:39 PM Tom_L: last one i hope
08:49 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, why would I need a roll-over cable?
09:28 PM rue_mohr: laptop to printer direct
09:29 PM rue_mohr: "WTF, I SAID!!!"
09:31 PM zhanx: ok cool, made one
09:33 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, odd question for you
09:33 PM zhanx: never mind I thought it out
09:33 PM rue_mohr: the last one would have been an even question then, good think your counting
09:34 PM zhanx: I was thinking on the serial printers I am always messing with
09:34 PM rue_mohr: huh, wow
09:34 PM zhanx: I need to make an adapter
09:34 PM rue_mohr: they aren't getting the ethernet option?
09:34 PM zhanx: not on some
09:34 PM rue_mohr: a card, just stick it in instead of the serial one
09:35 PM zhanx: no I am gonna do a usb to rs232 thing, thinking
09:57 PM Tom_L: do usb -> floppy drives work?
09:57 PM zhanx: yep
09:57 PM zhanx: I have one
09:59 PM Tom_L: a usb hdd adapter won't work on an old floppy will it?
09:59 PM rue_mohr: no
09:59 PM Tom_L: nt network went down
09:59 PM rue_mohr: unless maybe its an ide floppy drive
09:59 PM rue_mohr: which are rare, but exist
09:59 PM rue_mohr: and I dont know if they support the ata command set
09:59 PM zhanx: if you have a laptop one it will work
10:00 PM rue_mohr: and even if they did, it'd be hopeless under windows
10:00 PM zhanx: what is not hopeless under windows?
10:01 PM rue_mohr: solitare
10:01 PM zhanx: that made me chuckle
10:01 PM rue_mohr: its supposedly the only redeeming thing
10:02 PM zhanx: its amazing how all the backend is all *unix based and the desktops people use are crap
10:02 PM Tom_L: guess i'll save that one for tomorrow
10:30 PM zhanx: crap
10:30 PM rue_mohr: ?
10:30 PM zhanx: I forgot to order the jacks I needed for tomorrow
10:31 PM zhanx: ugh
10:31 PM zhanx: I need those single slim line ones for rj45 that you sticktape to the wall
10:33 PM rue_mohr: oh never uset eh sticktape...
10:33 PM zhanx: i know
10:33 PM zhanx: but
10:33 PM rue_mohr: unless its not drywall and nobody cares about never getting the tape off
10:33 PM zhanx: its what they want
10:33 PM rue_mohr: sometimes I uncover half the tape
10:34 PM zhanx: I got the wall covers for the wire not the jacks
10:34 PM zhanx: I had to turn down work today
10:34 PM rue_mohr: dive out the back of the track and cut the jack into the wall
10:35 PM zhanx: oh good idea
10:35 PM zhanx: thanks
10:35 PM rue_mohr: I do that all the time, I slip into the wall whenever I can
10:36 PM rue_mohr: on a good day, the track just goes round the top edge of the cieling
10:36 PM rue_mohr: looks like trim
10:36 PM zhanx: that make since, I got a hammer drill
10:36 PM rue_mohr: I take it to the nearest wall if plausable
10:36 PM zhanx: man if i could show photos of todays cluster fuck
10:37 PM zhanx: they made a closet into an office
10:37 PM rue_mohr: sometimes there is horiz blocking at about 5' so you cant
10:37 PM rue_mohr: hah
10:37 PM zhanx: the closet was L shaped
10:37 PM rue_mohr: with t-bar cieling?
10:37 PM zhanx: and the equipment was behind the desk that was hard mounted
10:37 PM zhanx: yep
10:38 PM zhanx: I am like I am way to big to step on that desk, but its 36" deep and the wire is hidden behind the NMD
10:38 PM rue_mohr: ouch
10:39 PM zhanx: I needed a 4' ladder and only had my 2' one as I was told this job was ground level, but no it was 7' off the ground
10:39 PM rue_mohr: could you have even fit a normal ladder?
10:39 PM zhanx: maybe
10:40 PM rue_mohr: my van has a 5' and an 8'
10:40 PM zhanx: I have a 2' stool thing a 4' and an 8'
10:40 PM rue_mohr: if you cant get to it from the top step of the 5' when its on the 8', your doomed.
10:40 PM zhanx: granted I am tall also
10:40 PM rue_mohr: :)
10:40 PM zhanx: stacking ladders is a bad thing
10:53 PM Tom_L: oh pfft.... http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/women_vs_men/whymendie_index.php
10:58 PM Tom_L: nt says the tcpip is connected to the card but i get nothing in or out
10:58 PM Tom_L: ipconfig shows nothing connected
10:59 PM rue_mohr: there is a link light?
10:59 PM Tom_L: yes
10:59 PM Tom_L: ping goes nowhere
11:01 PM Tom_L: i'll probably pull out the spare p100 and stuff the drive in it
11:01 PM Tom_L: been having problems with this one for a while
11:02 PM Tom_L: i can pull the drive and get the data i need, just didn't feel like taking it out tonight
11:03 PM Tom_L: and the cd burner doesn't work or i'd have just done that
11:06 PM zhanx: usb?
11:07 PM Tom_L: not on that old thing
11:07 PM zhanx: is it on the network?
11:08 PM Tom_L: it was
11:08 PM Tom_L: but it's not working
11:08 PM Tom_L: i generally just mapped a drive to it
11:08 PM Tom_L: nt is just there to get the DOS files off
11:11 PM zhanx: use a flashlight check the pins for the cable connector on the mobo
11:11 PM Tom_L: been doing that on a weekly basis for a while now