#garfield Logs
Sep 05 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:01 AM zhanx: https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/209.141.33.86
12:05 AM rue_: its small, I'll paste it
12:05 AM rue_: er pastebin it
12:05 AM zhanx: k
12:05 AM rue_: http://paste.debian.net/1040793/
12:06 AM rue_: and, if you want to play too, I ahve ken.arm ken.arm7 ken.mips and ken.mpsl
12:07 AM rue_: and from it I can get the irc servers, the channel name, but not the channel key
12:07 AM zhanx: wow
12:07 AM zhanx: They are targeting industrial stuff
12:08 AM rue_: the channel key is %s-%s, so I'd need to execute the code, or emulate or soemting, and I dont have the stuff
12:08 AM rue_: I TRIED to find an x86 version
12:08 AM rue_: cause I can hexedit the server and channel
12:08 AM rue_: to get the rest of the stuff out of it
12:08 AM rue_: my android would not let me run it
12:09 AM rue_: kinda ironic
12:09 AM zhanx: mpsl
12:09 AM rue_: what is that
12:09 AM zhanx: that is industrial and specialized stuff
12:09 AM rue_: ok
12:10 AM rue_: 10 machines/minute joining the irc server
12:10 AM zhanx: rue_, you remember the iran centifuges virus?
12:10 AM rue_: I did hear of , yes
12:10 AM zhanx: its that
12:10 AM rue_: ok
12:10 AM zhanx: thats all old stuff its weird
12:11 AM rue_: and not an X86 version to be found,
12:11 AM zhanx: well its also hardwired and wakes on lan
12:11 AM rue_: there were signs that there WAS an x86 version
12:11 AM rue_: 32 and 64 bit
12:11 AM zhanx: its a serial thing, whats that 78XX thing kat is talking about?
12:11 AM rue_: but could not locate a copy
12:11 AM rue_: 78xx is a regulator
12:11 AM rue_: positiv voltage
12:11 AM zhanx: its along those lines but more like a plc with ethernet
12:12 AM zhanx: the old school chipset
12:12 AM rue_: huh
12:12 AM rue_: 10 per minute?
12:12 AM zhanx: one second, I think i remember a company that makes one still
12:12 AM rue_: while I was trying to work out which way was up, it went from 1600 to 1800 machines
12:14 AM zhanx: https://patents.google.com/patent/CN107045013A/en <- patent for that data card
12:18 AM zhanx: the chip is a STC90C516RD on that
12:18 AM rue_: ok
12:18 AM rue_: .... stc90...
12:18 AM rue_: that rings a bell....
12:18 AM rue_: printers?
12:18 AM zhanx: among other things yes
12:18 AM rue_: why would any of that stuff have wget????
12:18 AM rue_: ok I need sleep
12:18 AM rue_: I dont even think I'm gonna fluff the pillow, just gonna go to sleep
12:18 AM zhanx: https://acme.com/software/mini_httpd/
12:18 AM rue_: :/ rlly, as a ftp substitute????
12:18 AM rue_: ugh
12:20 AM rue_bed: huh
12:20 AM rue_bed: the wind shifted and the smoke is back, driving my crazy
12:20 AM zhanx: I would love to see the binaries
12:20 AM rue_bed: any arch in particular?
12:20 AM zhanx: arm
12:21 AM rue_bed: mind if I slightly neuter them ?
12:21 AM zhanx: nope
12:21 AM rue_bed: ok, I think I can do it from here
12:21 AM zhanx: not like i am gonna use them I want to look that code structure
12:22 AM zhanx: i have seen dod coding and mil spec coding
12:22 AM zhanx: I bet its close
12:22 AM rue_bed: I wouldn't want to post them in their full active form
12:22 AM rue_bed: I'll just tweek the server ip and the channel name
12:22 AM rue_bed: I can tell you what they origionally were
12:22 AM zhanx: don't I can get enough from them to get the full form or new version
12:23 AM rue_bed: oh wait, I can give you the one I modded to run on my android
12:23 AM rue_bed: its arm
12:23 AM zhanx: k
12:25 AM zhanx: ugh tomorrow is a bunch of non programmed voip phones
12:25 AM zhanx: phones are slow and i have to sit next to them forever to hit the prompts
12:25 AM rue_bed: do you have a bootp provisioning server?
12:25 AM zhanx: nope not currently i can tho
12:26 AM rue_bed: http://ruemohr.org/%7Eircjunk/not_public_dont_open/f2m
12:26 AM rue_bed: its modified to join #AAABC on freenode
12:26 AM rue_bed: cause I didn't have much room between the nulls
12:26 AM zhanx: ok you can delete it
12:29 AM rue_bed: the origional channel was #DumPz
12:31 AM zhanx: oh i forgot to install bless
12:31 AM rue_bed: the origional servers was a list, irc.daddy.su and 46.29.161.100
12:31 AM rue_bed: and it was port...
12:32 AM rue_bed: 444
12:32 AM rue_bed: (comfirmed)
12:32 AM zhanx: you sure?
12:33 AM rue_bed: yes
12:33 AM rue_bed: the irc server is prolly still up
12:33 AM rue_bed: last Iooked it was al almost gone, but few a few 100 bots left
12:33 AM rue_bed: but I coudln't get into the channel
12:33 AM rue_bed: there is a key, and I didn't work out what it ws
12:34 AM zhanx: my isp has that 46 ip blocked for spam
12:34 AM rue_bed: hah, yea
12:34 AM rue_bed: have a server to get around it?
12:35 AM zhanx: yep
12:35 AM rue_bed: it was implied that to join the channel you have to identify with a particular nick
12:36 AM rue_bed: part of the reason I wanted to use that modified copy to join into freenode and see what it came up as
12:38 AM rue_bed: that was when I found it really WAS arm, the extension didn't lie
12:38 AM rue_bed: I just assumed fake extensions and stuff to throw people
12:39 AM rue_bed: I dont have an emulator, esp with an environment
12:39 AM zhanx: very odd
12:39 AM rue_bed: what do you see
12:39 AM zhanx: this is an embedded payload
12:39 AM rue_bed: yup
12:39 AM zhanx: its self bootable
12:39 AM rue_bed: makes sense
12:40 AM rue_bed: I know its statically linked
12:41 AM zhanx: what really gets me
12:41 AM zhanx: all the error messages
12:41 AM rue_bed: I found source that was close
12:41 AM rue_bed: kaiden.c
12:41 AM zhanx: pokemon theme again
12:41 AM rue_bed: the source code I found had a few interesting points
12:42 AM rue_bed: a) it stated that its been out for about 18 years
12:42 AM rue_bed: b) its got lots of nice freindly error messages
12:42 AM rue_bed: c) the source is written so that people who dont know much about what their doing can modify it for attack of their own
12:42 AM zhanx: yes, that is odd and those errors are broadcasted i think
12:43 AM zhanx: so another device can send it info
12:43 AM rue_bed: aka, the variables to modify are at the top with a ============== STOP ===== comment to make sure people know where to stop making source changes
12:43 AM rue_bed: the main stream goes to the irc server
12:44 AM zhanx: also this file is not complete
12:44 AM rue_bed: hu?
12:44 AM rue_bed: they were all the same length
12:45 AM rue_bed: er, no, the ...something else was
12:45 AM rue_bed: zippo:/mnt/binaries# ls -l
12:45 AM rue_bed: total 648
12:45 AM rue_bed: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 132639 Sep 5 2018 ken.arm
12:45 AM rue_bed: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 192141 Sep 5 2018 ken.arm7
12:45 AM rue_bed: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 166986 Sep 5 2018 ken.mips
12:45 AM rue_bed: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 166986 Sep 5 2018 ken.mpsl
12:45 AM rue_bed: tho, I'm not sure if that is a different version
12:45 AM rue_bed: Iirc its the same
12:46 AM rue_bed: they hit it in two passes
12:46 AM rue_bed: second pass changed binary name and the main dist server
12:47 AM rue_bed: I dont know why they didn't serve the binary out from the infected machines, I suppose the main coders aren'tinto self-modifying code
12:47 AM rue_bed: sad
12:47 AM rue_bed: kinda
12:47 AM rue_bed: whatever
12:48 AM rue_bed: zhanx, not complete tho?
12:48 AM zhanx: the file ending is padded
12:48 AM rue_bed: right
12:48 AM rue_bed: no padding?
12:48 AM zhanx: no the padding is wrong
12:48 AM rue_bed: ????
12:48 AM zhanx: they changed the 3F in it
12:49 AM rue_bed: ?
12:49 AM rue_bed: to?
12:49 AM zhanx: I need to look at it closer but the last function in it off
12:49 AM zhanx: its like it can add code
12:49 AM zhanx: or remove code
12:49 AM rue_bed: oh
12:50 AM rue_bed: :) must be nice to have the tools for arm
12:50 AM zhanx: great now i am not gonna sleep thinking about this and 2600
12:50 AM rue_bed: heh
12:50 AM zhanx: you ever read the 2600 game patch code hacks?
12:50 AM rue_bed: I can find a copy of close source code if you want
12:51 AM rue_bed: no, I have an OLD 2600 magazine
12:51 AM zhanx: this was after the magazine
12:51 AM rue_bed: dunno
12:51 AM zhanx: let me sleep on it i will remember, but it was source injection for a something,
12:51 AM zhanx: i swear its that
12:52 AM rue_bed: huh
12:52 AM zhanx: it was used to build one hack etc, and inject on the fly so you could tweak settings
12:53 AM zhanx: for games it was cheats for this its commands i bet
12:57 AM zhanx: https://daddy.su/ has an open port 443
12:57 AM zhanx: fyi
11:31 AM furrywolf: https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDgwMA==/z/O0IAAOSwgslbBUty/$_3.JPG?TaskDetailId=33447474_622b6392 photoshop of the day... from a listing for a "Cooling Hamster Pet
11:31 AM furrywolf: Cooling Plate"
12:50 PM katsmeow: <coff>
12:51 PM katsmeow: i got information right from the horse's mouth about the number of allowable clones connected
12:52 PM furrywolf: oh?
12:52 PM katsmeow: yeas
12:53 PM katsmeow: i am unsure if anyone wants that info from *me* tho, so just saying, the info is available, freenode does haveit
12:59 PM furrywolf: sigh. :(
03:11 PM katsmeow: rue, you asked about the number of connections in a huiman brain?
03:12 PM katsmeow: BBC just said 100 Trillion
03:12 PM katsmeow: if you can wire up 10 per minute, 10 hrs per day, no days off, it willtake you 45.66 million years to wire the brain
03:14 PM katsmeow: i suggest you make one in software, and tell it to replicate itself... you will need more than 100 TB of hdd space to store all the neurons not in use,, basically 100TB times the space needed for each neuron
03:14 PM katsmeow: if each neuron needs 500 bytes, you need 50,000 TB of hdd space
03:15 PM katsmeow: at 5v 800ms, that's 200KW of pwr just for the hdds
03:15 PM katsmeow: that is all
03:15 PM katsmeow: er, 5v 800ma
08:33 PM useless: rue, regarding your idea of applying 100 vac cleaner motors to one input shaft to the truck transmission, how many hp can a riding mower starter motor deliver for 10 seconds?
08:37 PM useless: with at least 10 minutes between uses
08:38 PM rue_: dunno, the vac mootrs are really light for their power tho
08:38 PM rue_: the quesiton is, what IS theirpower
08:39 PM rue_: I mean, its a doof question anyhow, cause I ned $10000 in batteriest to make it work
08:39 PM useless: well, i was thinking 10 starter motors on one flywheel, to develop some serious torque at low rpm,, not a truck
08:40 PM useless: power is full half-bridge off the 120vac line
08:40 PM rue_: I thnk the smoke here is killing my energy
08:41 PM useless: still foresty fires?
08:42 PM rue_: yes
08:42 PM rue_: no wind today, the whole area gradually fille dup with smoke
08:43 PM useless: btw, i got the lowdown on how may clones you can connect to freenode , and the penalty
08:43 PM rue_: eyes ache, throat sore, no energy
08:43 PM rue_: ugh
08:43 PM useless: same here when they burn garbage, cept my nose bleeds too
08:46 PM useless: ... see what i mean, furry?
08:54 PM useless is now known as useless-afk
09:04 PM rue_: its not even that thick!
09:10 PM useless-afk: k
09:18 PM useless-afk: 1985 : Quasar Industries company will begin making 125 household robots per day , it's called "Claytoo"
09:19 PM useless-afk: err, December 1979
09:20 PM * furrywolf gets back from work, and immediately flops over exhausted
09:22 PM * useless-afk downs sleepy and pain pills
09:25 PM * furrywolf re-flops onto kat
09:26 PM useless-afk: remember what i said earlier about me havig data that no one wants, because *i* have it?
09:27 PM furrywolf: I'm curious, but you didn't want to tell me.
09:27 PM useless-afk: i didn't?
09:28 PM useless-afk: hell, no one has asked me, not even rue himself
09:28 PM furrywolf: I said "oh?", and don't remember what you said. heh.
09:28 PM furrywolf: that was a workday ago. it's been pushed out of memory. lol
09:28 PM useless-afk: "oh?" is the prmpt to divulge data? i thought you were just verifying i meant i had it
09:29 PM furrywolf: https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/09/05/st-louis-apartment-kitchen-bathroom-combo-creates-stir/ lol
09:31 PM useless-afk: i put the nukebox and baby fridge in the bthroom down here, because it's too hot to run a fridge upstairs in summer, and too cold to be up there cooking in winter
09:31 PM useless-afk: and as i wasn;t allowed to finish the shower, i don;t have one
09:32 PM furrywolf: why weren't you allowed to finish the shower?
09:32 PM useless-afk: construction noise bothered the neighbor's dogs, this was mental cruelty to an animal, i was threatened with 10 yrs in jail each offence
09:33 PM furrywolf: remind them that hot lead would bother them more, and construction noise during daylight hours is a normal thing?
09:34 PM useless-afk: you don;t know how many $10k's i put into the legal system here
09:34 PM useless-afk: i quit working on the house 15 yrs ago
09:34 PM furrywolf: I wish I could afford somewhere to build a house. :(
09:35 PM useless-afk: neighbors got divorces last yr, and the last of them moved out early this yr, and the new neighbors understand i am not attacking their dog by working ont he house, and the dog doesn;t seem to mind anyhow
09:35 PM furrywolf: yay!
09:35 PM useless-afk: yeas, i am not 45 ys old any more :-/
09:37 PM furrywolf: land is really expensive here... like $200k/acre...
09:37 PM useless-afk: and, the price of lumber etc has doubled in the last 15 yrs
09:37 PM furrywolf: unless you want to live waaay out in the middle of nowhere two hours from town and surrounded by tweekers.
09:39 PM furrywolf: and then the county capitalizes on this (literally) by charging absurd permit fees, figuring if you can afford the land, you can afford to pay them just as much to be allowed to do anything on it.
09:39 PM useless-afk: afaik, there's no inspectors in rural areas here
09:40 PM furrywolf: there's mobile homes in parks, with space rent, for $120k here.
09:40 PM useless-afk: now you know why i am not there
09:40 PM furrywolf: and then it's $450/month to not get kicked out
10:08 PM * furrywolf is too tired to be useful
10:08 PM * furrywolf is too tired to be useful a lot lately. :(
10:09 PM * useless-afk got things done today, stoppig only when overheatng
10:09 PM furrywolf: all I got done was going to work. nothing else.
10:10 PM rue_: I fell asleep when I got home, I'd taken wakeup pills and everything
10:18 PM useless-afk: someone put out 4 - 6 BBC videos on robotics and Ai
10:21 PM useless-afk: what is it wiht humans that they canot say "human" without also saying "being" ?
10:22 PM furrywolf: heh, I've never noticed that.
10:22 PM useless-afk: news programs here cannot say "Alabama", they must say "the state of Alabama", or worse: "The great state of Alabama"
10:24 PM furrywolf: the one state that still has a law against owning sex toys.
10:24 PM useless-afk: it's art
10:25 PM useless-afk: you better not shove my art anywhere fun!
10:25 PM furrywolf: lol
10:26 PM rue_: damn, I didn't put a sticker with firmware info on my working servo
10:26 PM furrywolf: have you seen BS Atelier's toys? Some are very artistic. https://www.bsatelier.com/en/12-dildos
10:26 PM useless-afk: the inflateable art, the polishing oil, etc
10:27 PM furrywolf: https://www.bsatelier.com/522-large_default/alex-noise-grey.jpg modern art
10:28 PM useless-afk: no, thanks,, i am all outa bandwidth atm anyhow, found some Aimee Blackschleger , Mika Kobayashi
10:28 PM rue_: this is odd, all these firmwares are quad channel servo controllers
10:29 PM furrywolf: not enough bandwidth to load one page or one image? :(
10:29 PM furrywolf: I googled "Aimee Blackschleger", and I still don't know what it is.
10:29 PM useless-afk: i don;t wanna lag the music by looking at dildoes, i do have my priorities
10:30 PM furrywolf: lol
10:33 PM rue_: ok, I suppose I'm working with 4 channel code
10:35 PM * useless-afk looks sleepy, and would like a couple egg and cheese buscuits, please
10:36 PM useless-afk is now known as useless
10:36 PM * furrywolf had bbq tofu for dinner, and gives kat some of that instead
10:37 PM rue_: tofu!
10:37 PM rue_: I wonder if I have any tofu
10:37 PM * useless gets the chilled bottles of apple cider and teryacki
10:38 PM useless: so rue, you not going to run another herd of bots?
10:38 PM rue_: It needs more work, I'm chewing on other things
10:40 PM useless: my ears are ringing, i need better drugs
10:40 PM rue_: no tofu
10:40 PM useless: on the flip side, MY plan was to be done with all house work 2 or 3 yrs ago
10:41 PM rue_: yea, I'm supposed to have this gyro cage framed out by now
10:41 PM useless: but you got all the rings done, that's the most impossible part
10:42 PM rue_: nope
10:42 PM rue_: I have 4/6 of them made
10:42 PM useless: anyone can mount bearings on them
10:42 PM useless: o
10:42 PM * useless shuffles her feet, and furry's feet
10:42 PM rue_: today I came up with a mod for your jig
10:42 PM useless: my jig?
10:42 PM * furrywolf carefully tries to tuck in all feet at once, and fails
10:43 PM rue_: I'm going to put a spacer on the inside,and make the jig short, then run a strap around it (..) to hold them togethor and apart at the same time
10:43 PM useless: yeas
10:44 PM rue_: ok, so, I had some ham I wasn't sure of the status of, so I left it in the fridge, and its GOT to be bad by now
10:44 PM useless: use the same spacers and clamp pattern on all the pairs
10:44 PM rue_: yep
10:44 PM rue_: I still have ring-parallel issues, but its easier
10:44 PM rue_: should have seen me trying to do the first set
10:45 PM useless: you can always weld the spacers on opposite sides together to make sure each ring is directly above/below the other
10:46 PM useless: lay a steel straight egse across the top of the top ring, and use a common square off that, to set the bottom one where it belongs
10:46 PM rue_: https://imgur.com/gallery/tP7ftLE <-- it goes the wrong way!
10:48 PM useless: haveto dl it and then see it on the other puter
10:49 PM rue_: they got the dragon scale armour the wrong way around
10:49 PM rue_: ok food
10:49 PM rue_: ooooh
10:50 PM useless: no, for a 4-legged furry, it's right'
10:52 PM furrywolf: why would that be the wrong way around?
10:53 PM useless: it will catch the sword if the human holds his paws over his head
10:53 PM furrywolf: oh, I assumed it was to emulate scales, not actually be armor.
10:55 PM furrywolf: that is, being scaly was the goal, not being armored.
10:56 PM useless: but do you want your scales to flip up like that, even if not armor?
10:56 PM furrywolf: also, you have enough bandwidth for imgur? :)
10:56 PM useless: one of the big yt dl's stopped
10:57 PM furrywolf: https://www.bsatelier.com/522-large_default/alex-noise-grey.jpg artsy!
10:57 PM useless: i don;t wana look at dildoes anyhow
11:01 PM rue_: time for a new mouse pad
11:02 PM * rue_ gets another sheet of paper
11:02 PM * furrywolf doesn't want to know what rue did on his last one
11:03 PM rue_: to keep my mouse-balls clean I run them on paper
11:03 PM rue_: but they get mudded up with grime
11:03 PM rue_: the paper, have to replace it every so often
11:03 PM rue_: the BEST mouse surface I had was pain ole wood
11:03 PM furrywolf: I got a trackball for my one desktop. all the laptops I use now have touchpads, sadly.
11:04 PM rue_: I like ball mice, they dont screw up
11:04 PM rue_: I hate optical mice and their jitter-migration
11:04 PM useless: turn off the touchpad, plug in a usb wireless mouse
11:04 PM furrywolf: I like trackballs. :)
11:04 PM rue_: ball mouse, dosn't work->clean ball. fixed.
11:05 PM rue_: I'v had this mouse for 18 years
11:05 PM rue_: I'v worn thru half the bottom of it
11:06 PM furrywolf: the best optical mouse I've had was one that used two sensors and some sanity-checking and mixing.
11:06 PM furrywolf: googling shows such mice are still made
11:07 PM rue_: mine is a "genious netscroller"
11:07 PM rue_: hah, its as old as my case
11:07 PM rue_: everything else changed
11:08 PM furrywolf: I pretty much only use laptops now
11:08 PM rue_: you must lothe BGA
11:08 PM furrywolf: I pretty much only use quality laptops now
11:08 PM rue_: who makes a quality laptop?
11:08 PM zhanx: rue_, back of mind thought, laser grid for garden growth
11:09 PM zhanx: lenevo
11:09 PM rue_: no
11:09 PM rue_: no no lenovo crap
11:09 PM furrywolf: I mostly have toughbooks (panasonic), and this is a fujitsu
11:09 PM rue_: had to send that laptop back _4_ times for new motherboards before it worked for more than an hour
11:10 PM furrywolf: panasonic at one point had some "made in japan with all japanese components" ads....
11:10 PM rue_: sounds good
11:10 PM rue_: up there with "made in gernmany"
11:10 PM rue_: caue, in germany, people who dont make good things get executed.
11:10 PM furrywolf: panasonic is fucking huge... and they actually make most of the individual components in them, from the capacitors through to the optical drive...
11:11 PM zhanx: ok so 2 no one for the lasers and one for the laptop. instead of lasers 2 or 65 cameras?
11:11 PM furrywolf: parse error
11:11 PM rue_: zhanx, laser positioning?
11:11 PM zhanx: laser height measuring
11:11 PM furrywolf: I think panasonic is the only laptop company large enough to be able to make laptops from their own components.
11:12 PM rue_: zhanx, hmm
11:12 PM zhanx: I am gonna do a single rail on it with a servo setup to sweep
11:12 PM rue_: I cant think of a different good way to get height
11:12 PM rue_: trimmer line with a really good load monitor :)
11:12 PM furrywolf: other than a couple pieces of major silicon, they manufacture just about all of it.
11:12 PM zhanx: well if i do four corners it should work
11:13 PM rue_: furrywolf, I might ahve to replace the laptop at work soon, as the screen hinge in SEVERLY failing, I'll try it
11:13 PM zhanx: rue_, i found an abandoned green house today
11:13 PM rue_: zhanx, use a ... line laser and a moving pickup
11:13 PM zhanx: 50x300
11:14 PM rue_: OR use the gantry as a single beam
11:14 PM rue_: cm? :S
11:14 PM zhanx: rue_, so i am not far off and need to test
11:14 PM zhanx: meters
11:15 PM rue_: can you even fit that?
11:15 PM zhanx: figured i would use the canada scale till your are american
11:15 PM zhanx: yes I can
11:15 PM zhanx: welll 50x270 max for length
11:16 PM * useless waves gnites
11:16 PM rue_: gnight kat
11:16 PM zhanx: night kat, if i can get it, i will use 50x150 with double load for winter
11:17 PM rue_: you don think it can get taken out by another storm?
11:17 PM zhanx: this is metal and i will cement it if i get it
11:18 PM rue_: are you allowed?
11:18 PM zhanx: yep
11:18 PM rue_: k
11:18 PM zhanx: i found out that after the first one
11:18 PM zhanx: i am also going to dig in 2.5 meters for the floor
11:19 PM rue_: 2.5m!!!
11:19 PM zhanx: 2.2 meters is the perma frost line
11:19 PM zhanx: I know
11:19 PM rue_: 8 feet!
11:19 PM rue_: underground greenhouse?!
11:19 PM zhanx: I figure i will hit rock at 5 or 6
11:20 PM furrywolf: there's been cases of underground greenhouses here... usually by burying a shipping container.
11:20 PM zhanx: half buried yes
11:20 PM zhanx: 42 degrees all year
11:20 PM furrywolf: i.e. dig 50ftx10ftx10ft hole, push container in, push dirt back over.
11:21 PM zhanx: there is one is Kansas that is like 35 feet
11:22 PM zhanx: grows lemons
11:22 PM furrywolf: I have lemons in my little greenhouse
11:22 PM furrywolf: one day the tree will be too big for it.
11:23 PM zhanx: i have them at 3 years old right now
11:24 PM furrywolf: bbl, bedtime
11:26 PM rue_: furrywolf, thats a different kinda greenhouse tho
11:26 PM rue_: wait, lemons!?
11:27 PM rue_: oh god, in the thousands of years I'll wander the earth after the humans are dead, I'm gonna find all sorts of insane things
11:28 PM rue_: I shouldn be optimistic and presume I'll make it off the planet
11:29 PM rue_: waiting for things to find me hasn't really been working out
11:31 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/profile.jpg <-- new profile image for me?
11:32 PM rue_: I suppose thats a stupid resolution
11:33 PM rue_: zhanx, did you see the encoder I was making?
11:33 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/siggen/p1100642.jpg
11:33 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/siggen/p1100643.jpg
11:33 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/siggen/p1100644.jpg