#garfield Logs
Aug 30 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:00 AM katsmeow: the protocol of rPRIVMSG is in thoe emails, you canot get much simpler, and it;s the basis for most of irc
12:03 AM rue_: the webpage I was looking at dosn't say about the colon
12:03 AM furrywolf: then the webpage sucks.
12:03 AM furrywolf: also, you should read RFC1459 first
12:03 AM rue_: I'm trying to do it without becomming an expert
12:03 AM furrywolf: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459
12:04 AM rue_: no I moofed it still
12:05 AM furrywolf: maybe you should wait, like, 3 seconds? :P
12:05 AM furrywolf: so you don't have to sit there for >2 minutes to find you have a stupid typo?
12:05 AM rue_: bah
12:06 AM rue_: I'm eating supper, 3d printing an headphone amp, and running a cnc job, no time is a waste
12:07 AM furrywolf: have it your way. :P
12:07 AM furrywolf: bbl
12:08 AM mann27534: Hello\?
12:08 AM rue_: hahahahahaha
12:08 AM rue_: I'm so close
12:08 AM furrywolf: no, no you are not. :P
12:08 AM furrywolf: bbl
12:09 AM rue_: bye
12:11 AM mann27534: Hello?
12:13 AM mann27534: Hello?
12:13 AM rue_: thats 256 seconds tho
12:15 AM mann27534: Hello?
12:15 AM rue_: 1 more and I'll move ya along buddy
12:17 AM mann27534: Hello?
12:19 AM rue_: perfect
12:19 AM rue_: the battery fits in the battery compartment... nice
12:27 AM rue_: volume hole needs to be up 1mm
12:27 AM rue_: power switch needs to be in 1mm
07:55 PM zhanx: well today was fun
08:57 PM rue_: first day of the rest of your life?
08:58 PM Tom_L: first day of your next life
08:58 PM Tom_L: isn't that _your_ goal?
08:59 PM rue_: I'm a ways to go yet
08:59 PM Tom_L: i need a project i think
08:59 PM Tom_L: can't think of a good one yet
09:00 PM Tom_L: thought about a rotary axis but i doubt i'd use it that much
09:00 PM Tom_L: i think i wired most of the stuff in the contro for one
09:00 PM rue_: L2
09:01 PM rue_: make something with your finished project
09:01 PM rue_: your not gonna bootstrap if you do fircles on the same level
09:01 PM rue_: or even circles
09:01 PM Tom_L: not sure what i need
09:02 PM rue_: no no no its not about that
09:02 PM rue_: its about experience points
09:02 PM rue_: and you dont get them siting on the couch
09:02 PM rue_: do anything
09:02 PM Tom_L: my pot is getting full of those
09:02 PM rue_: you will find new things you didn't know you didn't know
09:03 PM rue_: its good to have a few projects that do not have to finish
09:03 PM Tom_L: it must have a completion time well within sight
09:03 PM rue_: sometimes I'm happy calling a project quits before its finished on the grounds I'v learned a lot
09:04 PM rue_: soul food is a type of project
09:04 PM Tom_L: fish, mac n cheese
09:04 PM Tom_L: mmm
09:05 PM rue_: kat, what things bring back your fondest project memories
09:05 PM rue_: ?
09:05 PM Tom_L: i'm stuffed
09:05 PM rue_: mine are sitting on the middle of a carpet, assembling circuits that blink leds
09:05 PM rue_: to 80's tunes
09:05 PM Tom_L: the mill would be one
09:06 PM Tom_L: i thought about figuring out single point threading but the cutters are expensive
09:07 PM Tom_L: http://www.harveytool.com/prod/Thread-Milling-Cutters/Holemaking---Threading/Browse-Our-Products_271/Thread-Milling-Cutters---Single-Form_157.aspx
09:07 PM Tom_L: like those
09:08 PM rue_: sitting nain front of my apple IIe at 2am writing 'ai' software for someone to talk to, that was a fond memory
09:09 PM rue_: sitting infront of my ...
09:10 PM Tom_L: can you turn those sherline tool holder threads on your lathe?
09:10 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure what they are
09:10 PM Tom_L: 1" maybe
09:11 PM rue_: dunno
09:11 PM rue_: I'm almost dead tired right now
09:11 PM rue_: cant process much of anything
09:11 PM Tom_L: 3/4 - 16
09:11 PM rue_: the project box I 3d printed for the headphone amp looks like its going to work out
09:11 PM Tom_L: saw that
09:12 PM rue_: its just two lM386, a volume pot, power siwtch, and 9V battery
09:12 PM rue_: almost as big as a walkman... oh well
09:28 PM zhanx: oh i was putting the kids to sleep
09:29 PM zhanx: rue_, the places I went to install the equipment, all was stolen before i got there
09:31 PM Tom_L: day off
09:31 PM zhanx: basically
09:31 PM Tom_L: hope the loss isn't on you
09:31 PM zhanx: nope, but lots and lots of phone calls etc
09:31 PM zhanx: the lock box was there
09:32 PM zhanx: too bad the lock was broken and the stuff gone
10:05 PM rue_: why is chromium doing a whole bunch of multicast dns traffic over udp?
10:05 PM zhanx: updates and reports
10:06 PM rue_: so, I'll block it at the firewall?
10:06 PM zhanx: i did
10:06 PM rue_: did it speed up at all?
10:06 PM zhanx: nope
10:09 PM rue_: thier to 224.0.0.251
10:10 PM rue_: and I cant whois that
10:10 PM rue_: oh wait
10:10 PM rue_: is that unroutable?
10:10 PM rue_: is that the odd one?
10:10 PM rue_: no
10:10 PM zhanx: that is unroutable to me
10:11 PM zhanx: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12483717/what-is-the-multicast-doing-on-224-0-0-251
10:11 PM rue_: 192.168, 10. 172.169...
10:18 PM zhanx: weird reviewing my morning work order
10:18 PM zhanx: 3 hours to run a serial cable
10:18 PM Tom_L: take your time
10:19 PM zhanx: i am wondering how
10:19 PM Tom_L: take a good book along to read
10:21 PM zhanx: i might do that
10:41 PM zhanx: rue_, still up?
10:41 PM rue_: yes, on a shopping spree
10:42 PM zhanx: cat5 to rj11 what pins 4,5?
10:42 PM rue_: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/400-pulses-Incremental-Optical-Rotary-Encoder-AB-Two-phase-5-24V-400-Pulses-Incremental-Optical-Rotary/1683098_32725917082.html DO I????
10:42 PM zhanx: center pins i would think
10:42 PM rue_: white and blue... your NOT splitting a cable between data and tel are you??
10:43 PM zhanx: no cat5 for the (per work order) to rj 11
10:43 PM zhanx: i am pinning both ends
10:44 PM rue_: er, not crimp to solid core wire!?!?!
10:44 PM zhanx: but research is not turning up a standard, if white blue is normal i will do that
10:44 PM zhanx: no
10:44 PM zhanx: well i hope not
10:44 PM rue_: do you mean 6 pin?
10:44 PM rue_: for a 6p connector, the standard it to pair out from the middle
10:45 PM rue_: CBAABC
10:45 PM zhanx: no they want a telco to rj45
10:45 PM zhanx: ok that is what i thought
10:45 PM rue_: but the rj45 std is AABCCBDD
10:45 PM zhanx: like a split pair then
10:45 PM rue_: (letters dont line up between those
10:45 PM rue_: )
10:45 PM zhanx: true
10:46 PM rue_: if CBAABC then CCBAABDD where C and D may be reversed
10:46 PM zhanx: i will have the datasheets tomorrow on site, but i was like wait rj45 one end and two rj11's on the other???
10:47 PM rue_: as you discovered before, the middle 4 conductors are often all thats used
10:47 PM zhanx: yep
10:47 PM rue_: tel RJ45 CAN be DCBAABCD
10:47 PM rue_: thats messed with me before
10:48 PM rue_: I'm going for it, i'm gonna buy two 400ppr
10:48 PM zhanx: i am making new plugs for toning
10:49 PM zhanx: in case 1,2 is broken again
10:49 PM rue_: you pair test everything installed tho, right?
10:49 PM zhanx: yes
10:50 PM zhanx: hence why i was hired randomly
10:50 PM rue_: so, you lay off yer workers?
10:50 PM zhanx: had to
10:50 PM zhanx: not for work reasons
10:51 PM rue_: were they useless?
10:51 PM zhanx: most got better job offers and that
10:51 PM rue_: ok
10:51 PM zhanx: looking for another kid to train now
10:51 PM zhanx: i maybe level 0 but i am a good level zero
10:52 PM zhanx: my last install is a another vsat
10:52 PM rue_: oops, almost bought 10 PT2262, hah
10:53 PM zhanx: stressing is all
10:54 PM zhanx: moving beyond basic stuff for installs
10:54 PM rue_: there isn't really much up
10:55 PM zhanx: oh i know but i am only me right now
10:55 PM zhanx: the needed help is gone
10:56 PM zhanx: Tom_L, sparkie knows what i mean
10:57 PM rue_: :) you means running up and down 3 flights of stairs 50 times to test 24 data lines cause some idiot engineer didn't put the damn room on the same floor?
10:58 PM zhanx: yep
10:58 PM zhanx: well i can test 10 at time with my gear
10:58 PM rue_: I never finished building mine
10:58 PM zhanx: but same thing
10:58 PM rue_: and it doesn't come up often
10:58 PM zhanx: vs me
10:59 PM rue_: how strong a lser to cut tinfoil?
11:00 PM zhanx: reflective so higher
11:00 PM rue_: well +- tricks like thin paint
11:00 PM zhanx: so cheap then
11:00 PM zhanx: hair spray on it
11:02 PM zhanx: windshield time tomorrow is 4 hours
11:02 PM rue_: wow borring
11:03 PM zhanx: yep but i am like the only tech in this area
11:05 PM zhanx: rue_, when i say area its like 200 sq miles
11:07 PM rue_: how far is it from "eggmont BC" to "howe sound BC" (google maps hates me)
11:07 PM zhanx: my first is local same postal address
11:07 PM zhanx: second one is an hour drive
11:07 PM zhanx: then north to Canada
11:08 PM zhanx: not sure how its cheaper to hire me than a local CA
11:10 PM rue_: lots of chains like to have people they know
11:11 PM zhanx: Well its Tim Hortons and i work for the American side, so i can see that
11:11 PM rue_: they have a new one going up here
11:11 PM rue_: they think they will be ready to open for christmas
11:11 PM rue_: hahaha
11:11 PM zhanx: just doing a VOIP side insrall
11:11 PM zhanx: as a prep for a cross over fail back
11:11 PM rue_: tell me if they send you to sechelt early next year
11:11 PM zhanx: k
11:12 PM zhanx: if they send me that far i will sleep at your house
11:12 PM rue_: sounds good
11:13 PM zhanx: company that just hired me wants me in maine next month
11:13 PM zhanx: i was like wow slow down
11:14 PM zhanx: they are sending me a spectrum analyzer
11:14 PM rue_: nice.
11:14 PM zhanx: like i know how to use it
11:14 PM rue_: wifi installs?
11:14 PM zhanx: VSATs
11:14 PM rue_: ah
11:15 PM zhanx: if is the same as the army i am ok, but if not nope
11:15 PM zhanx: oh look 6 grand and its a brick
11:17 PM rue_: oh cr** the night is gone
11:17 PM zhanx: yep
11:18 PM rue_: I'm looking over parts for a quad copter, mmmmm
11:18 PM rue_: use the one I have before making one I crash all the time
11:19 PM rue_: tho, some of these are probably formittable cnc spindle motors
11:21 PM rue_: ok, what else is good to buy
11:21 PM zhanx: not sure its bed time for me
11:21 PM zhanx: 5 am comes early