#garfield Logs

Aug 24 2018

12:00 AM furrywolf: 22ftlbs, 51ftlbs, -180 degrees, -180 degrees, 36ftlbs, 80-90 degrees, 40-45 degrees.
12:27 AM katsmeow is now known as katsmeow-afk
12:33 AM katsmeow-afk is now known as katsmeow
01:08 AM * katsmeow should get to bed
01:09 AM katsmeow: gnites
07:13 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, the printer stoped retracting the filament as it works
07:13 PM zhanx: !log this
07:25 PM Tom_L: no '!' required
08:04 PM zhanx: thanks Tom_L
08:27 PM zhanx: rue_mohr, I think i narrowed my issue down to speed
08:32 PM Tom_L: zhanx, 'index' also works
08:32 PM Tom_L: in a different way
09:15 PM zhanx: time zones suck
10:27 PM katsmeow: <coff>
11:20 PM zhanx: anyone home?
11:21 PM zhanx: oh your in the shop rue_shop3 we need to do a by the numbers speed settings I think,
11:22 PM zhanx: I had all the xyz steps per mm settings but not the e written down
11:22 PM zhanx: but 420 seems to be working good for e0
11:30 PM zhanx: ok
11:35 PM zhanx: So issue found rue after reseting EVERYTHING
11:35 PM zhanx: Power wire on the psu was loose causing the board to miss step
11:41 PM rue_shop4: hahahah
11:41 PM rue_shop4: maybe I am smarter than I was 20 years ago
11:41 PM zhanx: yep you stayed away untill i fixed it
11:41 PM rue_shop4: I just made a grey counter with two D flipflops and two diodes
11:42 PM rue_shop4: you found it tho
11:42 PM zhanx: now i am using the eprom and all the defaults are uploaded
11:42 PM rue_shop4: you have all the values written down tho
11:42 PM zhanx: rue trust me I was like what the f#$K
11:42 PM zhanx: all values are now printed out
11:43 PM rue_shop4: and you can do E steps by marking the filament and extruding cold without the nozzel on
11:43 PM rue_shop4: so your good
11:43 PM zhanx: I am doing a 1% infill on a 40 mm to test for strings
11:43 PM zhanx: I am ok
11:43 PM rue_shop4: two flipflops and two diodes...
11:43 PM rue_shop4: damn
11:43 PM zhanx: nice on that by the way
11:44 PM rue_shop4: its AT BEST been a chip-and-a-half
11:44 PM rue_shop4: but, I cant fully use it for sequencing motors, I cant do reverse, yet
11:44 PM zhanx: rue_shop4, so if a printer is working but acting weird, goto the power supply first, lesson learned
11:44 PM rue_shop4: but it works
11:44 PM rue_shop4: its a simplified FSM
11:45 PM zhanx: FSM>
11:45 PM zhanx: ?
11:45 PM rue_shop4: Finite State Machine
11:45 PM zhanx: damn it, they took the offer
11:45 PM rue_shop4: the flipflops are the feedback latch and the two diodes are the lookup ROM
11:45 PM zhanx: i said 500 in travel to goto vermont for a server monday and they took it
11:46 PM zhanx: i did that so they would say no
11:46 PM rue_shop4: haha
11:46 PM zhanx: morons I swear
11:47 PM zhanx: oops i was talking to you and the piece came off the glass
11:48 PM zhanx: 40mm cube is measured on the outside right?
11:48 PM rue_shop3: never use those for size calibration
11:48 PM rue_shop3: NEVER
11:48 PM zhanx: k
11:48 PM rue_shop3: the extrusion width is all messed into it
11:49 PM rue_shop3: use the 100mm square I did and measure from left edge to left edge
11:49 PM zhanx: I was gonna say i am 40.25 and 40.76 on it
11:49 PM zhanx: that was 100mm
11:49 PM rue_shop3: never use those to calibrate distance
11:49 PM zhanx: well 100.04
11:49 PM rue_shop3: thats great
11:49 PM rue_shop3: within measurement error for sure
11:49 PM rue_shop3: so, NOW that you have the steps/mm right
11:50 PM rue_shop3: you can play with the extrusion width
11:50 PM zhanx: that is my issue now
11:50 PM rue_shop3: temp and mutiplier are your dials
11:50 PM rue_shop3: each affects it
11:50 PM zhanx: temp has to be 200 to be smooth
11:50 PM rue_shop3: higher temp will make it thinner (iirc)
11:50 PM zhanx: at 185 its bumpy for the print
11:50 PM rue_shop3: and higher mult will make it thicker too
11:51 PM zhanx: i am at .9 and 200c
11:51 PM rue_shop3: SO, you have to balance this with what the software THINKS the width wil be
11:51 PM zhanx: let me get a pic of this edge for you
11:51 PM rue_shop3: think plotter, your trying to do the perfect infill
11:51 PM rue_shop3: the plotter needs to shift over by exactly half the pen width per pass
11:52 PM rue_shop3: ^^ do you understand that tho?
11:52 PM rue_shop3: ooooh
11:52 PM rue_shop3: the problem is that you cant tell slicer to use a particular offset
11:52 PM zhanx: you on the email computer?
11:52 PM rue_shop3: no
11:52 PM rue_shop3: the problem is that you cant tell slicer to use a particular offset
11:53 PM rue_shop3: so, you have to fudge with particular numbers
11:53 PM zhanx: i get you but the how is messing with me
11:53 PM rue_shop3: one thing that helped it lieing about the tip size
11:53 PM zhanx: so not .4?
11:53 PM rue_shop3: if you cant get it to tuck the lines close enough, tell it its got a smaller tip than it really does
11:54 PM rue_shop3: it'll pull the lines togethor, but blanace that with the tweeking of the temp and multiplier
11:54 PM zhanx: brb
11:54 PM rue_shop3: unfortunatly, its a 3 variable problem
11:55 PM zhanx: https://imgur.com/a/qmoCYZd
11:55 PM zhanx: layers, its bit blurry but best phone can do
11:56 PM zhanx: its 10mm thick almost
11:56 PM rue_shop3: is the ooble on the top or bottom
11:56 PM zhanx: bottom
11:57 PM rue_shop3: did the first pass HALF FLATTEN the extrusion?
11:57 PM rue_shop3: it looks like it was flying
11:57 PM zhanx: yep
11:57 PM zhanx: maybe a bit more than half
11:57 PM zhanx: hard to tell
11:57 PM rue_shop3: whats the "first layer over extrusion" set to?
11:58 PM zhanx: first layer height is .35
11:58 PM zhanx: first layer is set at 100%
11:58 PM rue_shop3: no
11:58 PM zhanx: it was 200%
11:59 PM rue_shop3: set first layer height to .25
11:59 PM rue_shop3: remaining layers .21
11:59 PM zhanx: my first layer is .35 and the rest .3 as default
11:59 PM rue_shop3: nope, use ^
11:59 PM zhanx: just changed them