#garfield Logs
Jul 27 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:03 AM furrywolf: I had it at my rental shop, and they replaced the main panel for the whole complex... and the guy apparantly forgot we have wild-leg 3-phase. and wired 1/3rd the 120v circuits up to 208...
12:07 AM __M00N__: 4wire delta?
12:07 AM rue_shop3: ouch
12:07 AM furrywolf: yes, but the neutral is in the middle of one phase, not in the middle of all three.
12:07 AM __M00N__: yeah
12:07 AM rue_shop3: __M00N__, meet furrywolf , furrywolf meet moon
12:07 AM __M00N__: hi
12:07 AM rue_shop3: moon knows about it
12:07 AM rue_shop3: we all seem to share a similiar database
12:07 AM __M00N__: like minds tend to gather
12:07 AM rue_shop3: __M00N__, you should see furrywolfs website
12:09 AM furrywolf: forgetting that you're working on a wild-leg delta system is something the guy who wired it should count himself very lucky to be still employed after...
12:10 AM rue_shop3: brainstorm, this is an automotive amp, I'm gonna set the power supply to 13V
12:10 AM rue_shop3: .. or 13
12:10 AM rue_shop3: or 13.5?
12:10 AM rue_shop3: or 14?
12:10 AM furrywolf: 14.5
12:10 AM rue_shop3: 15, do we hear 15V
12:10 AM rue_shop3: 14V going once...
12:10 AM furrywolf: also, you listed 13 twice. :P
12:10 AM rue_shop3: 15V going once..
12:10 AM furrywolf: 14.5 is my recommendation.
12:10 AM rue_shop3: I cant type
12:10 AM rue_shop3: its the model M
12:11 AM rue_shop3: its not working with me
12:11 AM furrywolf: send it to me, then.
12:11 AM __M00N__: 13.5
12:11 AM furrywolf: and buy some shitter rubber tv remote job instead. :P
12:11 AM furrywolf: shittier
12:11 AM rue_shop3: hah
12:11 AM rue_shop3: I'm sad, the left shift key is starting to stick
12:11 AM furrywolf: automotive alternators are generally around 14.5, and the amp will work better in every way when it gets it.
12:12 AM furrywolf: I actually bought a brand new unicomp a few months ago.
12:12 AM rue_shop3: I need to see if I can find a square-square-halfround connector
12:12 AM furrywolf: the modern production model M.
12:12 AM rue_shop3: how much?
12:12 AM rue_shop3: like $300?
12:12 AM rue_shop3: usb?
12:12 AM furrywolf: $94, USB
12:12 AM rue_shop3: ony 94?
12:13 AM rue_shop3: I think people charge more than that for a real model M
12:13 AM rue_shop3: buckle spring?
12:13 AM rue_shop3: does it have a frame you can kill someone with?
12:13 AM furrywolf: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MSNM6YG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
12:13 AM furrywolf: is $99 now, apparantly
12:14 AM furrywolf: buckling spring, but the frame is noticably lighter than the original, as is the entire keyboard
12:14 AM * rue_shop3 droooooools
12:14 AM rue_shop3: ok, so you cant use it as a weapon, but otherwise?
12:14 AM furrywolf: it's more like the late model Ms when they started getting flimsy.
12:14 AM furrywolf: than the early ones you could club people with.
12:15 AM furrywolf: otherwise it has a very similar feel to the original
12:15 AM furrywolf: nice crisp clicky keys that snap down and back up
12:15 AM rue_shop3: $190 CAD
12:15 AM * rue_shop3 cries
12:16 AM rue_shop3: I'll just keep buying microswitches from aliexpress....
12:17 AM rue_shop3: as much as I'm tempted to pay $1000 for a tv I'd never use, I cant get myself to put $200 on a keybaord
12:17 AM rue_shop3: I just dont have that much control over my cup of tea
12:18 AM furrywolf: I don't own any TVs.
12:19 AM rue_shop3: I dont turn any of mine on
12:19 AM furrywolf: then why have them? :P
12:19 AM rue_shop3: to the point I leave them unplugged so to stretch capacitor life
12:20 AM rue_shop3: well, one of them is the 2nd tv I ever got, it still works good (being I know how to solder)
12:20 AM rue_shop3: the other one is a mixed tv with vcr/dvr I was given free by a fellow who went to england
12:20 AM rue_shop3: there's the lcd one that I won at the company party
12:21 AM rue_shop3: and the one in the shop for youtube that I cant find any wallspace for
12:22 AM __M00N__: HA!
12:22 AM __M00N__: Ps. its beer time
12:23 AM rue_shop3: how abotu a tea instead?
12:23 AM __M00N__: been there
12:23 AM rue_shop3: oh, right square square round
12:25 AM __M00N__: furrywolf, show me your website
12:25 AM furrywolf: I don't have a website.
12:26 AM __M00N__: oh i thought rue siad you did woops
12:26 AM furrywolf: I just have some random files I've tossed online over the years. http://fw.bushytails.net/
12:26 AM furrywolf: nothing very interesting outside of the conversations for which the files were for.
12:28 AM __M00N__: ah, well looks cool anyway. I like cars :)
12:28 AM __M00N__: seen a snippet of poinless ignition something
12:28 AM __M00N__: pointless*
12:29 AM rue_shop3: its as much a website as mine is
12:30 AM __M00N__: yeah no doubt
12:30 AM rue_shop3: furrywolf, wrote _the_ encoder generator on the internet
12:30 AM __M00N__: ?
12:30 AM furrywolf: http://fw.bushytails.net/minibrute/minibrute.html the latest addition is the owner's manual to an electric chainsaw I have, that I got someone selling one on ebay to scan for me.
12:31 AM zhanx: so, i got home to a note sorry about the white board, kids where playing inside and broke it :(
12:31 AM zhanx: on a good note the local walmart has all new scales on the registers
12:32 AM furrywolf: you shop at walmart? eww
12:32 AM zhanx: no i upgraded the scales
12:32 AM furrywolf: ah
12:33 AM zhanx: 26 registers and the lead from NCR i was suppose to work with never showed up. But I have done 4 other stores so meh
12:34 AM furrywolf: I have one commercial scale... got it for $25 when the local hardware store closed.
12:34 AM furrywolf: it can talk to a pos system, but also works stand-alone. big bright green-backlit lcd.
12:34 AM rue_shop3: ... I wonder if that barcode scanner I have is also a scale
12:34 AM zhanx: these are the ones that weigh the stuff as you check out. its built into the scanner
12:34 AM furrywolf: this was the one that weighed stuff as you checked out, too. :P
12:35 AM zhanx: rue picks of it?
12:35 AM furrywolf: just not built into a scanner. they used a handheld scanner.
12:35 AM zhanx: right hand side of it
12:35 AM rue_shop3: ok, have power light, dont have smoke, this is good
12:35 AM zhanx: should have 3 or 4 connections depending on type
12:35 AM zhanx: the scale is a serial connection
12:36 AM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/p1100384.jpg
12:36 AM rue_shop3: one of thodays scores,
12:36 AM rue_shop3: $0 down, $0 interest,, $0
12:36 AM rue_shop3: (but $85 in fuel)
12:36 AM zhanx: whats the tank?
12:37 AM rue_shop3: tank?
12:37 AM rue_shop3: the vibration finisher?
12:37 AM zhanx: wait is that a motor (the white thing)
12:37 AM rue_shop3: yea its a 90A 24V dc motor
12:37 AM rue_shop3: its for the new cnc spindle :D
12:37 AM zhanx: oh biggen
12:38 AM furrywolf: http://www.tor-rey-electronics.com/commercial-scale-PC/PC.php mine is one of those
12:38 AM furrywolf: has displays on both sides
12:38 AM zhanx: nice, what does it weigh in at? 50 kg?
12:38 AM rue_shop3: haha its 3hp
12:38 AM rue_shop3: oo I have a postage scale
12:38 AM rue_shop3: its kinda like that
12:38 AM rue_shop3: serial port, I think
12:38 AM zhanx: furry, yea i don't work on those, the manuals are all fubar on them
12:39 AM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/finisher/p1100379.jpg
12:39 AM rue_shop3: ^ you saw the vibration finisher that tom tricked me into making?
12:39 AM furrywolf: I don't need a manual... I just use it for random weighing tasks, making zero use of its advanced features.
12:39 AM furrywolf: for $25, I'm quite happy with it. :P
12:39 AM zhanx: furry, i fix stuff like that. kind of like rue does, hence why i said it
12:39 AM furrywolf: mmmmm, vibrators...
12:40 AM __M00N__: XD
12:40 AM zhanx: rue i saw that yesterday
12:40 AM furrywolf: zhanx: want to fix my shipping scale? :)
12:40 AM zhanx: :) what model
12:40 AM furrywolf: dunno, it's been in storage for like ten years.
12:40 AM zhanx: if its china junk just replace
12:41 AM zhanx: tomorrow my work is all printers :(
12:41 AM furrywolf: no, it's a good US-made one. about a 18" square platform with a remote display, 150lb capacity.
12:41 AM zhanx: nice
12:41 AM furrywolf: the problem with it is the previous owner fucked up all the calibration data.
12:41 AM zhanx: oh get a calibration set from amazon or local and redo it
12:42 AM furrywolf: I attempted to calibrate it using weightbench weights, and... it does read things that look like weights. it is not suitable for actual shipping purposes.
12:42 AM zhanx: star pattern the weights while doing it
12:42 AM furrywolf: it requires a full-scale calibration weight.
12:42 AM furrywolf: 150.00lbs
12:42 AM rue_shop3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG5aC44US94
12:43 AM furrywolf: I was able to confirm that it works, but it's off by like 10%. heh.
12:43 AM rue_shop3: I need to make a power supply for that too....
12:43 AM zhanx: furry its called water
12:43 AM furrywolf: I think weightbench manufacturers might intentionally inflate weights to make people feel good or something...
12:43 AM rue_shop3: I wonder if I should just pwm chop an unfiltered rectified transformer output
12:43 AM zhanx: you can weigh and measure water to just about perfect
12:43 AM furrywolf: want to fix my $29.99 harbor freight shipping scale? :P
12:44 AM zhanx: lol no
12:44 AM furrywolf: it needs a new battery. I'm not sure it's worth it.
12:44 AM furrywolf: 9v batteries are like $5, and that's about how useful it is. lol
12:44 AM zhanx: heck i got a 4000 dollar gaming machine a buddy dropped off that is sitting there, no parts for it
12:45 AM rue_shop3: furrywolf, get the industrail ones, no residential battery tax, $1.50 for the same battery
12:45 AM zhanx: rue no battery tax in the usa
12:45 AM furrywolf: I need to figure out how to charge my tor-rey scale... it didn't come with the charger, and now about five years later, it just beeps when I hit on.
12:45 AM rue_shop3: WHAAAAAT
12:45 AM rue_shop3: so, the fact that I can buy 24 9V batteriest for like $10 ?
12:45 AM zhanx: also they are free to drop off to recycle
12:46 AM zhanx: think it might be 12
12:46 AM rue_shop3: energizer industrial
12:46 AM zhanx: i picked up a 4 pack for 4.25 today
12:46 AM furrywolf: I was mostly joking. I am well aware that you can get cheaper batteries.
12:47 AM furrywolf: 8-packs of duracall 9v alkalines are like $10 at costco.
12:47 AM zhanx: heck you can get them at the dollar store for the really cheapo ones
12:47 AM furrywolf: duracell
12:47 AM rue_shop3: gee, my chargers been pushing 6A into that battery for quite a while now... maybe free batteries... aren't... worth anything...???
12:48 AM zhanx: wet or dry rue?
12:48 AM furrywolf: I got two free 32ah gel-cells two weeks ago... been cycling them, mostly just letting them boil, and they're starting to become useful batteries.
12:49 AM zhanx: furry don't count on it. I had a gel in my toy and when it died it appeared to take a charge but yea no
12:49 AM furrywolf: looks like my scale needs a barrel connector, 9v, center positive... that ought to be easy to find. lol
12:49 AM furrywolf: I don't buy gel toys. only silicone toys. :)
12:49 AM zhanx: walmart :)
12:50 AM furrywolf: I've been cycling the batteries. on the last cycle, with the two of them in parallel, I was able to pull a 30A load for about an hour, followed by a 5A load for several hours.
12:50 AM zhanx: my toy is on 37's and i need to finish the led lighting if i ever get time
12:50 AM furrywolf: my jeep is on 38.5s...
12:51 AM zhanx: we can swap tires, my is a ford exploder with a SAS in the front
12:51 AM furrywolf: blah
12:51 AM rue_shop3: can I put a 10" abvrasive blade into a standard chopsaw?
12:51 AM furrywolf: I have a dana 60 in front with 5.88 gears. :)
12:51 AM rue_shop3: wet
12:51 AM zhanx: my 37's are hummer tires on 8" rims
12:52 AM zhanx: 4.56's and it tops out at 70. what is your top speed 60?
12:52 AM furrywolf: 55ish.
12:52 AM zhanx: rue drain them clean them and and refill them
12:52 AM furrywolf: 4k rpm redline on my engine. :)
12:52 AM rue_shop3: I need a maintainer for like 20 small batteries
12:52 AM zhanx: sounds about right
12:53 AM zhanx: rue use solar panels
12:53 AM furrywolf: it'll climb a tree, though.
12:53 AM zhanx: i build mine to climb rocks, not mud.
12:53 AM furrywolf: mine is too heavy for mud. heh. 6500lbs...
12:53 AM furrywolf: 38.5x11 tires. needs wider tires for mud.
12:54 AM zhanx: what jeep is it?
12:54 AM furrywolf: though the tsl boggers do a decent job
12:54 AM furrywolf: m715
12:54 AM zhanx: oh thats why
12:55 AM zhanx: does that thing even fit on most trails?
12:55 AM rue_shop3: WHOLY FFFFF
12:56 AM furrywolf: it makes trails fit it. :P
12:56 AM rue_shop3: the volume was at 2, apparently thats LOUD
12:57 AM furrywolf: I need to install lockers.
12:58 AM furrywolf: I have an ARB for the front and a Detroit for the rear... sitting on the passenger floor.
12:58 AM zhanx: so my oldest just ran out of his room told the google mini to turn off his light and ran back in, thought everyone was sleeping when i got home
12:58 AM zhanx: I have a Lincoln in the rear
12:59 AM zhanx: chirp chirp chirp as i turn
12:59 AM furrywolf: heh
01:00 AM zhanx: my front is the same but i have stage 8 lockouts so its not an issue
01:00 AM furrywolf: my favorite lincoln-locker related incident is watching someone with one try to make a turn at a gas station to get to the pump, and the vehicle insisting on going straight no matter what angle the front wheels were at. :)
01:01 AM zhanx: mine is trail only now
01:01 AM furrywolf: also, red sucks. miller lockers are much sturdier and more reliable. :P
01:01 AM * furrywolf only has blue equipment
01:02 AM zhanx: my welding was free
01:02 AM zhanx: bought zero of it
01:02 AM zhanx: and paid zero
01:02 AM rue_shop3: 11pm, I cant crank this amp to test it out
01:02 AM furrywolf: heh
01:03 AM zhanx: rue sure you can, neighbors will not like it tho
01:04 AM rue_shop3: yea, you know, the occasional explosion, and welding light almost all night, prolly puts me at a tolerance limit
01:04 AM rue_shop3: I dont want to add music to it
01:04 AM rue_shop3: I wonder what living beside me is like to them
01:05 AM rue_shop3: I mean, not during a workday
01:05 AM rue_shop3: night
01:05 AM furrywolf: speaking of night... bbl, wolfy bedtime.
01:13 AM rue_shop3: ok, so, thats almost ready
01:14 AM rue_shop3: I ahve the space for the speakers, I ahve them modified to hang, I have a working amp, I have speaker wire
01:14 AM rue_shop3: I can put the other EQ up on the shelf tommorow
01:14 AM rue_shop3: and then the only bit thats missing is some kinda cable tray for the wires
01:17 AM rue_shop3: Tom_L, I have a 1.5Hp motor on the fan, its DC, 24V
01:17 AM rue_shop3: much smaller
01:18 AM zhanx: ok paperwork done. rue tomorrow i need to pick your brain on PID and some other ideas
01:18 AM rue_shop3: what looks just like cable tray, and isn't...
01:18 AM rue_shop3: steel studs....
01:18 AM rue_shop3: I only got PI to work, D made it all unstable
01:19 AM rue_shop3: but that solinoid I did positioning with, was PI
01:19 AM zhanx: k, when i am not so tired and drained
01:19 AM rue_shop3: the one thats just meant for holding or not
01:19 AM rue_shop3: and I put a linear encoder on it, and did linear positioning
01:19 AM zhanx: i need rotary so keep that in mind
01:21 AM rue_shop3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tG2bTOGxK0
01:21 AM rue_shop3: if I can stabalize that, anything can be done
01:21 AM rue_shop3: thats not a linear solinoid, its a standard one
01:23 AM zhanx: opened it paused it, 23 seconds i can watch tomorrow when my brain is not on work
01:24 AM zhanx: today was a LONG day
01:24 AM zhanx: oh you will like this, side note
01:24 AM zhanx: I got the contract to update the Tim Hortons around me
01:25 AM zhanx: they are switching from AT&T to Verizon
01:25 AM rue_shop3: they used to make the donuts local
01:25 AM rue_shop3: now its just unfrozen crap
01:26 AM zhanx: never ate there, I know canada loves them
01:45 AM rue_shop3: that motors ok, its got no problems spinning the brake
01:47 AM rue_shop3: hmm
01:47 AM rue_shop3: 170VDC
01:47 AM rue_shop3: to 12VDC
01:48 AM rue_shop3: ballpark 80%
01:48 AM rue_shop3: er 24
01:48 AM rue_shop3: 7:1
01:48 AM rue_shop3: so, 80A out
01:48 AM rue_shop3: factor in efficeincy
01:48 AM rue_shop3: 14.25A
01:49 AM rue_shop3: hmm
01:49 AM rue_shop3: so, I'd need an 80A inductor that could swallow 146V
01:49 AM rue_shop3: if I ran it at, hmm
01:49 AM rue_shop3: ooo
01:50 AM rue_shop3: 20Khz?
01:50 AM rue_shop3: ratio of...
01:51 AM rue_shop3: sure 7:1 go up to 100% duty, tl494
01:51 AM rue_shop3: so 146V-10ms
01:52 AM rue_shop3: 1.46 volt-seconds
01:53 AM rue_shop3: is saturation volt-seconds or amp-seconds, damnit I forgot it all
01:59 AM rue_shop3: Tom_L, (I know your asleep) I was thinking about a hydraulic spindle
02:04 AM rue_shop3: I got two car jacks with acme rod, gonna grab them and take em apart now unless I require the grinder...
11:37 AM ffurrywol: https://lostcoastoutpost.com/loco-media/cache/d2/7d/d27df9be44e2a3f4ea91fbb315dae80a.jpg not where I am, but... ouch. that's not that far from here...
11:38 AM ffurrywol is now known as furrywolf
12:29 PM Tom_L: rue_shop3, not that efficient i think
02:02 PM rue_shop3: furrywolf, fire?
02:02 PM rue_shop3: Tom_L, the acme thread? no
02:02 PM furrywolf: yeah, about an hour and a half inland from here.
02:03 PM rue_shop3: tend to generate a lot of smoke
02:03 PM rue_shop3: if the sky looks red, its cause thats not cloud
02:43 PM Tom_L: no, a hydraulic spindle
02:43 PM rue_shop3: ok, but how about 3HP motor on the side and a sub 1kg drive on the machine
02:45 PM Tom_L: 3hp mounted to a flex drive to the z axis. no weight on the z axis :)
02:46 PM Tom_L: i've never seen those larger than 1/4"
03:01 PM rue_shop3: the motor controller works fine
08:12 PM Lola8088: Hey roo...
08:13 PM Lola8088: bloop bleep
08:13 PM Lola8088: bleep bloop blop
10:09 PM rue_: Lola8088,
10:09 PM rue_: you alive! :)
10:09 PM rue_: ,... maybe
10:10 PM rue_: you might have passed away before I got around to answering
10:11 PM Tom_shop: chopping timber here
10:11 PM rue_: Lola8088, I didn't have any funny dreams last night, so I dont suspect your close...
10:12 PM rue_: Tom_shop, I'm sorting the scrap I got yesterday, get it all outa the truck
10:13 PM rue_: ok I want to get grinding and cutting done before nightfall
10:18 PM Tom_shop: one more block to cut to size
10:18 PM Tom_shop: doing the width now, then the thickness
10:18 PM Lola8088: HI HI HI HI
10:19 PM Lola8088: Nope... I'm still up north. You are always so right on with that. I don't even know how. CRAZY
10:20 PM Tom_shop: fate
10:20 PM Lola8088: (I love him) (I always will)
10:20 PM Tom_shop: how north is north? rue is way north !!
10:20 PM Lola8088: I'm north-er.
10:20 PM Lola8088: LOL
10:21 PM Lola8088: ummm, another ferry ride and a couple of hours by car
10:21 PM Lola8088: I don't like peoples much. I like trees. And cats.
10:22 PM Tom_shop: i'm in the middle of it and i don't like em much either
10:22 PM Tom_shop: but i'm a dog person
10:22 PM Tom_shop: and alergic to cats
10:23 PM Tom_shop: and rue is certifiable fwiw :D
10:24 PM Lola8088: Bwahahahaha No Joke
10:24 PM Tom_shop: rue_, the 1/8" cutter seems to like 6.5 ipm better than 8 at 4krpm
10:24 PM Tom_shop: less chatter if any
10:24 PM Lola8088: Got to tend the kidlets.... bbl
10:25 PM Tom_shop: mine are old enough to do that themselves
10:25 PM rue_shop3: hah
10:26 PM rue_shop3: I have the strangest dreams when she is within like 100km of me
10:26 PM Tom_shop: what now?
10:26 PM rue_shop3: yea
10:27 PM rue_shop3: I wake up and its like "that was not one of my dreams"
10:27 PM * furrywolf is also a dog person
10:28 PM rue_shop3: I'v had things like it before, but non as consistently as with her around.
10:28 PM Tom_shop: maybe you should listen
10:29 PM rue_shop3: its creepy to clearly hear the word "Hello?" but not with your ears....
10:29 PM rue_shop3: ho hum
10:29 PM Tom_shop: last cut on the long side
10:29 PM Tom_shop: face off and that's that
10:29 PM rue_shop3: the belt for my drillpress is apparently unobtainium
10:30 PM rue_shop3: 5/16 x 30"
10:30 PM Tom_shop: sewing shop?
10:30 PM Tom_shop: i bet i could find one
10:30 PM rue_shop3: hah sewing, not the shops here
10:30 PM rue_shop3: you could
10:31 PM rue_shop3: the best place here was scratching their heads
10:31 PM Tom_shop: i just replaced the ones on mine
10:31 PM Tom_shop: my place said hold on a sec and returned with 2 belts
10:32 PM rue_shop3: Lola8088, just to note, there is someone who might have been passing thru the coast, I dont know who or what, but I picked up on someone that didn't have your signature...
10:32 PM rue_shop3: Tom_L, arg
10:32 PM rue_shop3: how much?
10:32 PM Tom_shop: i forget
10:33 PM Tom_shop: it was a while back
10:33 PM rue_shop3: anyhow, I got a 7/16" belt
10:33 PM rue_shop3: they didn't pick up on the size, gave me a 32", whatever
10:34 PM furrywolf: ... what the hell uses a 5/16" belt? is it v or round?
10:34 PM rue_shop3: drillpress
10:35 PM rue_shop3: the guys havnt been carefull, they dont put it on right and its getting all chewed up
10:35 PM rue_shop3: I had to give everyone a lesson on how a belt should go
10:35 PM furrywolf: yes, you already said it was a drill press. what kind of drill press? :P
10:35 PM furrywolf: also, v-belt, round belt, flat belt, ?
10:35 PM rue_shop3: aka not / across two random pullies, and not all half rolled over backwards
10:35 PM rue_shop3: V belt,
10:36 PM rue_shop3: its a delta
10:36 PM rue_shop3: if you google K-30 belt, the delta drillpress is just about the only thing in the world its used for
10:36 PM Tom_shop: is there a number on it?
10:36 PM rue_shop3: K-30
10:36 PM rue_shop3: there is no such thing as a K profile
10:37 PM rue_shop3: but it was 30"
10:37 PM rue_shop3: metal cutting!
10:38 PM rue_shop3: haha I found my teacup!!!!
10:40 PM furrywolf: all mine take normal 1/2" belts
10:44 PM rue_shop3: I wonder if I have to have met someone for that to happen
10:44 PM rue_shop3: if so, it means the other ones came from people I'd met
10:45 PM furrywolf: googling suggests your delta-specific belt is quite easy to find... online.
10:46 PM rue_shop3: oh I didn't check amazon
10:46 PM furrywolf: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Replacement-V-BELT-for-DELTA-DRILL-PRESS-K30-K-30-DP-200-Belt/152346413549 example
10:47 PM rue_shop3: I checked the industrail supplier..
10:47 PM rue_shop3: no ebay!
10:47 PM rue_shop3: screw that ****
10:47 PM rue_shop3: had it with them and their "oh we promise you will get your stuff"
10:48 PM rue_shop3: $22 for one belt
10:48 PM rue_shop3: huh
10:48 PM rue_shop3: oh and its not the right one
10:48 PM furrywolf: it's a k-30.
10:49 PM furrywolf: used on delta drill presses.
10:49 PM rue_shop3: furrywolf, I had problems with ebay randomly removing things from my purchased items list and charging me money for things but not telling the seller
10:49 PM furrywolf: https://www.partswarehouse.com/Ryobi-V-Belt-K-30-RY-089140314045-p/ry-089140314045.htm
10:50 PM rue_shop3: The connection was interrupted
10:50 PM rue_shop3: that securrity problem again, they must only accept 256 bit encryption
10:50 PM rue_shop3: arg
10:50 PM rue_shop3: none on amazon tho....
10:51 PM furrywolf: .. why the fuck would you want one on amazon?
10:51 PM rue_shop3: well, ebay dosn't work
10:51 PM furrywolf: so you can pay more for late delivery of the wrong item?
10:51 PM rue_shop3: hah, not had that problem yet
10:52 PM furrywolf: I use amazon about once a year
10:52 PM rue_shop3: other problem being that I'm in canada, which means either "will not ship to canada" or "shipping $50"
10:52 PM furrywolf: ebay constantly.
10:52 PM rue_shop3: yea, I was doing a LOT of ebay traffic
10:53 PM rue_shop3: items that are removed from your purchased items list cannot be claimed for refund
10:53 PM furrywolf: https://www.amazon.com/BELT-SMALL-DP120-RYOBI-13405007/dp/B000P8S74S
10:53 PM furrywolf: https://www.amazon.com/RIDGID-RYOBI-OEM-089140314045-GENUINE/dp/B076FNC8S4/ref=pd_cp_86_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B076FNC8S4&pd_rd_r=XZX3788DJV85HF7N15B3&pd_rd_w=GCBPT&pd_rd_wg=ZPhmn&psc=1&refRID=XZX3788DJV85HF7N15B3
10:53 PM furrywolf: grr, fucking amazon urls
10:53 PM furrywolf: https://www.amazon.com/RIDGID-RYOBI-OEM-089140314045-GENUINE/dp/B076FNC8S4
10:54 PM rue_shop3: eek, ok I ahve to follow this later, I have to go out and go angle grinding
10:54 PM furrywolf: the second one claims to be a k-30 belt explicitly, while the first one is the same ryobi part number that came up as a k-30 belt on another site
10:55 PM furrywolf: RIDGID RYOBI OEM 089140314045 V-BELT K-30 IN GENUINE FACTORY PACKAGE
10:56 PM furrywolf: https://www.toolpartsdirect.com/tti-089140314045-v-belt.html us 4.46
10:57 PM furrywolf: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5E552V9640&FM=1 k-30 belt on newegg
10:57 PM rue_shop3: arg, ok, and fireworks are tommorow night
10:57 PM rue_shop3: ok, and parade is tommorow at 11am
10:57 PM rue_shop3: ouch
10:57 PM furrywolf: (out of stock on newegg, though)
10:57 PM rue_shop3: furrywolf, thanks, i'll check out the links
10:57 PM rue_shop3: :)
10:57 PM rue_shop3: cutting
10:58 PM furrywolf: manual for a ryobi DP103L 10" drill press specs a K-30 belt part number 089140314045.
10:59 PM furrywolf: so, googling suggests that k-30 belts are really, really easy to find. :P
10:59 PM furrywolf: and they're not just used by delta... they're used by other piece of shit chinese brands too! :P
11:03 PM rue_shop3: :)
11:05 PM furrywolf: I need to put a motor on the drill press in the barn with my milling stuff.
11:05 PM furrywolf: it's an 1800s line-shaft drill press, with flat belts.
11:05 PM furrywolf: it's 100% functional, just no belts, or line shaft on the barn roof. heh.
11:07 PM furrywolf: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/attachments/f19/4305d1212299750-canedy-otto-camelback-restoration-canedy2.jpg similar in design to that one, but with more gears and fewer belts
11:08 PM furrywolf: power feed with trip stops, etc... 140 or so years old. lol
11:10 PM furrywolf: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/attachments/f19/11781d1239168752-cincinnati-bickford-drill-press-drill2.jpg we need to do that... stick a random motor next to it. heh.
11:11 PM rue_shop3: ooo
11:11 PM rue_shop3: usually its but pointing back on the floor
11:11 PM Lola8088: Headed north or south?
11:11 PM Tom_shop: west
11:12 PM rue_shop3: Lola8088, ?
11:12 PM Lola8088: said person passing through the coast with unknown sig.
11:13 PM furrywolf: bearings are still nice and tight, despite it being the oldest thing in the shop.
11:13 PM * Tom_shop thinks .82505" is close enough
11:14 PM furrywolf: all poured-in-place babbit
11:14 PM furrywolf: babbitt
11:16 PM rue_shop3: oh I dont know
11:16 PM rue_shop3: I just know they were near me overnight
11:17 PM * furrywolf still has not figured out what rue is talking about
11:18 PM Lola8088: Is it SeaCav?
11:19 PM Lola8088: I'm missing all the good stuff. I miss the coast. :/
11:25 PM rue_shop3: yea, everything is tommorow
11:25 PM rue_shop3: I'';lll try to get into gibsons early so I can park at GBS and watch the parade
11:25 PM zhanx: nice thing about having my house automated. I can turn everything off from my chair
11:32 PM furrywolf: I usually keep things off except for wherever I am.
11:36 PM furrywolf: bbl, wolfy bedtime
11:37 PM rue_shop3: furrywolf, wow, that last image needs help
11:37 PM rue_shop3: gearhead is nice
11:38 PM rue_shop3: and the power drive
11:38 PM rue_shop3: and the auto stops...
11:56 PM rue_shop3: http://benedikt.lphard.cz/photo/index.php?gallery=Workshop/Bandsaw/Assembly&image=webp2210248.jpg&lang=cz
11:57 PM rue_shop3: huh, same saw as mine, slightly different electrical, all the same mechanical problems