#garfield Logs

May 04 2018

#garfield Calendar

12:00 AM zhanx: printer is the part we are making together
12:03 AM zhanx: till i go off the deep end
12:06 AM zhanx: oh 6 wire steppers are easy
12:06 AM zhanx: wow
12:06 AM zhanx: ok
12:06 AM rue_mohr: 4 wire mode
12:06 AM zhanx: yep
12:06 AM zhanx: all i got is 6 wires no 4's
12:06 AM zhanx: and i got 4 matching for this
12:06 AM rue_mohr: yea you just leave the tap unconnected
12:06 AM zhanx: extruder is a 72oz one
12:06 AM zhanx: biggest of the bunch
12:06 AM rue_mohr: ok...
12:06 AM zhanx: running 12v
12:08 AM rue_mohr: running a nut 15cm down a threaded rod put the 10 year old to the limits
12:08 AM rue_mohr: of his patience
12:09 AM zhanx: i bet that would
12:09 AM zhanx: my 4 year old is all 3d printer happy
12:09 AM zhanx: he has the knack
12:09 AM zhanx: i can see it
12:09 AM rue_mohr: :)
12:09 AM zhanx: he threaded nuts and washers on parts will i was wiring
12:10 AM zhanx: you know how you can look at someone and see they get it?
12:10 AM rue_mohr: last machine i ended up making custom cables
12:10 AM rue_mohr: kinda
12:10 AM zhanx: i got lots of cat 5
12:10 AM rue_mohr: till latley I'd never tried
12:11 AM zhanx: rue_mohr from my army time I know if someone learned it or needs help
12:11 AM zhanx: eyes, body posture etc
12:11 AM rue_mohr: the folks who need help, always seem to need help
12:11 AM zhanx: heck he hit start on the print after watching me test the board
12:12 AM rue_mohr: :)
12:12 AM zhanx: said dad, you need to test it to see if it works
12:12 AM rue_mohr: oh I designed the new Y bearing last night
12:12 AM zhanx: ok
12:12 AM zhanx: files?
12:12 AM rue_mohr: carved the support out today at lunch
12:12 AM zhanx: or picture
12:12 AM rue_mohr: need to make sure it works first
12:13 AM zhanx: i was a car dealership today all day
12:13 AM zhanx: will be back there wednesday
12:13 AM rue_mohr: posting
12:13 AM zhanx: 700 meters of cat6 ran no drop ceilings
12:14 AM rue_mohr: ouch
12:14 AM rue_mohr: usually
12:14 AM zhanx: only 3 drops at that
12:15 AM zhanx: last one is gonna be close
12:15 AM rue_mohr: hah, I set a key and I'm not used to not typing in the password
12:15 AM rue_mohr: er, 700m in cat6?
12:15 AM rue_mohr: in 3 drops?
12:15 AM zhanx: yep
12:15 AM rue_mohr: 100m*3 < 700m
12:15 AM zhanx: i did not spec it
12:15 AM rue_mohr: tel?
12:16 AM zhanx: nope
12:16 AM rue_mohr: not ethernet
12:16 AM zhanx: ethernet
12:16 AM rue_mohr: not over 100m
12:16 AM zhanx: again i was paid to install it like that
12:16 AM rue_mohr: it wont work, you can get up to about 350feet and it stops working
12:17 AM zhanx: 365 feet is max range
12:17 AM rue_mohr: we had to use batteries powering switches along the way
12:17 AM zhanx: 362-364 on a good day
12:17 AM zhanx: nothing
12:17 AM rue_mohr: huh
12:17 AM zhanx: i was on the phone about it
12:17 AM rue_mohr: did you point out it should ahve been fiber?
12:17 AM zhanx: engineer said it will work
12:18 AM zhanx: i pointed out a lot of things, was told to run it
12:18 AM rue_mohr: I think he got feet and meters mixed up
12:18 AM katsmeow: i am sending dsl 300ft from the road on cat5, and get my rated "up to 1mbit" sometimes
12:18 AM rue_mohr: thats ok
12:18 AM rue_mohr: dsl is good for km's
12:18 AM zhanx: yep
12:18 AM rue_mohr: 20 iirc?
12:18 AM katsmeow: oh, then just run a convertor and your's gold
12:18 AM zhanx: wed i get the boxes to install
12:18 AM zhanx: maybe its custom
12:19 AM katsmeow: how can i glue to polyethylene tarp?
12:20 AM katsmeow: i need to make 132 sewn seams 24ft long water proof
12:20 AM rue_mohr: there are network drivers for long haul copper
12:20 AM zhanx: never could i alway fold it and secure it
12:21 AM rue_mohr: but rlly, they dont tend to be high bandwidth *just use fiber*
12:21 AM katsmeow: zhanx, not to be used as a tarp, to be used as a molden aluminum flat plate "coil",, but made of tarp
12:21 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: its Chevy corporate displays
12:21 AM zhanx: katsmeow: explain more please
12:21 AM * rue_mohr is having cellery for supper
12:22 AM katsmeow: sew zigzag pattern into tarp, seal to be watertight at the seams, add water
12:22 AM zhanx: what temps?
12:22 AM rue_mohr: zhanx, sorry!
12:22 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: they pay very welll
12:22 AM katsmeow: outside, 40 to 130 ish
12:23 AM zhanx: better than SCT which pays me over 185 an hour
12:23 AM zhanx: high temp silicone kat?
12:23 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/Yblock.png
12:23 AM rue_mohr: ^
12:23 AM rue_mohr: the object includes the support material
12:23 AM katsmeow: silicone won;t stick
12:23 AM katsmeow: sew pattern like http://img.frbiz.com/nimg/3d/98/c06178433f89aa8d15d5cc4dc84e-0x0-0/aluminum_plate_bounding_evaporator_for_refrigerator_strong_style_color_b82220_freezer_strong.jpg
12:23 AM rue_mohr: up is on the left, its printed rolled 90 right
12:24 AM katsmeow: 1 inch id "tubes" side by side
12:24 AM katsmeow: left to right, 24 ft
12:24 AM zhanx: katsmeow: flex seal?
12:24 AM katsmeow: water flows zig xag back and forth
12:25 AM katsmeow: goal was to save money, ot buy the most expencive sealant for something that may UV-rot in 6 months
12:26 AM zhanx: to be honest never done it
12:26 AM rue_mohr: I'm using sacraficial UV overtarps
12:27 AM katsmeow: rue, those would actl ike insulation
12:27 AM katsmeow: i was going to try painint the outside black, if i could stop up all the leaks
12:27 AM katsmeow: if i cannot stop the leaks, no point doing more
12:29 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: setup my jib to hob a bolt
12:29 AM zhanx: wonder how many tries it will take
12:30 AM zhanx: katsmeow: that psu 12v 90a. 3 and 3 for the supply power? jumper is still on it
12:32 AM katsmeow: zhanx, what was the question?
12:32 AM zhanx: the pin out again to get power
12:32 AM zhanx: If i remember right it was 3 on either side to get 12v
12:33 AM katsmeow: what model # ?
12:33 AM zhanx: umm one sec
12:35 AM zhanx: its not showing up my ebay
12:36 AM zhanx: 90A 12V psu (dell or hp) that was a steal
12:36 AM katsmeow: i am having to looko for it, i deleted everytbing on my website as being useless
12:36 AM zhanx: i'll take pics
12:36 AM zhanx: tomorrow when i get it out
12:39 AM zhanx: oh my issue with the washers was not the od
12:39 AM zhanx: but the id
12:43 AM katsmeow: found thepics
12:49 AM katsmeow: zhanx : http://DesignerThinking.com/psu_hookup.zip shows jumpers, load wire glowing white hot, and basic voltage adjustment connection
12:50 AM zhanx: k
12:50 AM zhanx: yep that is it
12:50 AM zhanx: thanks katsmeow
12:51 AM katsmeow: <curtsey>
12:51 AM zhanx: knew you had it
12:52 AM zhanx: i need to make a katsmeow logo for you
12:52 AM zhanx: little something for the wall when the 3d printer is done
12:52 AM katsmeow: ok, ok, cool
12:55 AM katsmeow: Cisco AA22900 ; PWR-C45-1000AC .... iirc, there's a -1200AC too
12:56 AM katsmeow: the single orange wire goes to the pot, the other pin on thepot goes to gnd, iirc, it's a 10k pot, start mid rotation
12:56 AM katsmeow: the blue-white are shorted together
12:57 AM zhanx: never used the pot
12:57 AM katsmeow: there's also a newtral vDrop compensation pin, but i didn;t look for it, ditto the I2C pins
12:58 AM zhanx: i got a backup psu in case this fails
12:58 AM katsmeow: i didn;t look for the 3.3v adjust either
12:59 AM katsmeow: from the right: first 6 pins are +12 , the next 6 pins are gnd
01:00 AM katsmeow: the 13th pin is +3.3
01:00 AM zhanx: k
01:00 AM * zhanx hugs kat
01:01 AM katsmeow: all thos fat pins on the left, i dunno
01:01 AM zhanx: i/o? who knows i need the power is all
01:01 AM katsmeow: OOPS
01:01 AM katsmeow: it's after midnite, canot think
01:02 AM katsmeow: from the right: first 5 pins are +12 , the next 5 pins are gnd for the +12 , the next is gnd for +3.3.the next is +3.3
01:02 AM katsmeow: you could have worked it out from teh backwards, but there itis
01:02 AM katsmeow: sorry
01:03 AM katsmeow: hence, hi rez pics
01:17 AM katsmeow: me too
01:18 AM katsmeow: seems like you could have used the hi rez tho
01:18 AM zhanx: i can
01:18 AM zhanx: the ones you sent are good
01:19 AM katsmeow: fwiw, thes have a 42v 60amp output : https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=cisco+AA23200&_sop=15
01:20 AM zhanx: overkill for me
01:20 AM katsmeow: can run 2 of th 17v led in series
01:21 AM katsmeow: there's the really rare 50v psu sometimes, which will run 3 in series
01:27 AM katsmeow: -50v @ 28amp, +12@113amps, +3.3@12amps https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=aps-172&_sacat=0
01:28 AM zhanx: kat stop trying to make me spend money, i want tooo
01:28 AM katsmeow: could run 75 of the 17v leds, and lots of control circuits
01:28 AM katsmeow: ok
01:29 AM zhanx: almost bought the 10 last night
01:29 AM katsmeow: 10 what?
01:30 AM zhanx: the ebay auction
01:31 AM katsmeow: i don;t remeber, was i here?
01:31 AM zhanx: yes
01:31 AM zhanx: but post meds
01:32 AM katsmeow: all i remember was screwdriver bits
01:33 AM zhanx: oh i ordered that
01:40 AM katsmeow: 50v@130amp 6kw $14 ?
01:42 AM zhanx: no
02:21 AM katsmeow: gnites
08:58 AM rue_mohr: its intergalaxy star wars day, May the 4th be with you
06:14 PM rue_shop4: Jupiter EX3300
06:14 PM rue_shop4: switch, cool
06:41 PM rue_shop4: 90% of the manual just describes where the content is
06:52 PM rue_shop4: https://www.ostechnix.com/how-to-assign-multiple-ip-addresses-to-single-network-card-in-linux/
06:52 PM rue_shop4: I learned something new today