#garfield Logs
Apr 20 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:00 AM rue_mohr: hidden in tis webpage is the email address you need to apply for this job
12:03 AM rue_mohr: <! foo@bar.com >
12:03 AM zhanx: stenography?
12:03 AM rue_mohr: ^/
12:03 AM rue_mohr: html comment
12:03 AM zhanx: oh i was thinking over that
12:03 AM rue_mohr: people who dont ahve it, REALLY DONT HAVE IT
12:03 AM zhanx: no they dont
12:03 AM zhanx: and the more i do this the more i see it
12:03 AM rue_mohr: if they can find a html comment, they are probably much better
12:03 AM rue_mohr: yea, spooky isn't it?
12:03 AM zhanx: sad to me
12:03 AM zhanx: is right there, its not making a robot, its fixing things
12:03 AM rue_mohr: sometimes its just observing
12:03 AM zhanx: rue and the people that hire me, wow
12:03 AM rue_mohr: there is a lot of "its not my job" too
12:03 AM zhanx: true
12:03 AM rue_mohr: I dont do all the computer stuff at work, some of it I just leave for a guy they bring in
12:03 AM zhanx: i got route 22 printer cleaning jobs, i said yea right and no
12:03 AM rue_mohr: huh
12:03 AM zhanx: so next week i am cleaning printers for 90 bucks an hour
12:03 AM rue_mohr: I was thinking that about the fire inspections I do
12:04 AM rue_mohr: really, all the job is, is just doing it.
12:04 AM zhanx: true
12:04 AM zhanx: its a bank
12:04 AM zhanx: so since i have a background check and in this area i am the only one...
12:05 AM zhanx: i am like any moron can clean a printer
12:05 AM rue_mohr: :) how does the mil service look on the background check?
12:05 AM rue_mohr: a big black line or?
12:05 AM zhanx: EPIC
12:05 AM rue_mohr: hah ok
12:05 AM zhanx: job yesterday with the NDA
12:05 AM zhanx: 1.4 bil in drugs behind that door i fixed
12:06 AM zhanx: turned out its the hub for this area
12:07 AM rue_mohr: at the local hospital they turned a section of hall into a storage room.... the storage room is for the pharmacy, the section of hall has THE PRIMARY network cable bundle going thru the cieling...
12:07 AM rue_mohr: for like half the main floor of the hospital
12:07 AM zhanx: tomorrow is an easy job 5 60" tv's with wall mounts and chrome pc's
12:07 AM zhanx: wow
12:08 AM zhanx: that must suck
12:08 AM rue_mohr: I HATE doing data runs in that hospital
12:08 AM zhanx: going back there monday
12:08 AM zhanx: I guess they fired the IT people
12:08 AM zhanx: ALL of them
12:08 AM rue_mohr: I mean, I have a set of top level keys, but that dosn't make it much easier
12:08 AM rue_mohr: ooo
12:09 AM zhanx: on site time is 9 hours from them
12:09 AM rue_mohr: ooo
12:09 AM zhanx: its all workstation support
12:09 AM rue_mohr: "I lost my icons"
12:09 AM rue_mohr: :)
12:09 AM zhanx: my mouse is missing
12:09 AM rue_mohr: hahahhahaha
12:09 AM rue_mohr: oooh dear
12:09 AM zhanx: its on the floor lady
12:09 AM rue_mohr: $900 bye
12:10 AM zhanx: try more
12:10 AM rue_mohr: same diff tho
12:10 AM zhanx: yep
12:10 AM rue_mohr: awe, kat went
12:11 AM zhanx: still cheaper if i go out once a week than them hiring someone
12:11 AM rue_mohr: could be
12:11 AM zhanx: 11 people vs me
12:11 AM rue_mohr: but whats fair to who, your not getting bennifits
12:11 AM zhanx: I paid for mine already
12:11 AM zhanx: I got better health care than you
12:12 AM rue_mohr: yea I need to dog my doc more
12:12 AM zhanx: same here
12:12 AM zhanx: but to him i am healthy and working so non issue
12:13 AM rue_mohr: lower bar here, "you walked in, this isn't important"
12:13 AM zhanx: is what it is, for me its 2-6 weeks till i get seen
12:13 AM zhanx: but i never pay for it
12:14 AM rue_mohr: my buddy had a hell of a time when he went in after a stroke, trying to explain that the slur wasnt' normal
12:14 AM zhanx: that is why they come to the states
12:14 AM rue_mohr: "I'm not drunk I just had a stroke"
12:14 AM zhanx: i live 30 minutes from the border
12:14 AM zhanx: my wife said half the people are from canada
12:15 AM rue_mohr: huh
12:15 AM zhanx: canada pays the bill
12:15 AM zhanx: its faster
12:15 AM rue_mohr: our med system is completely backed up too
12:15 AM zhanx: yep
12:15 AM zhanx: she was ogbyn and now mental health
12:16 AM zhanx: 80% canada
12:16 AM rue_mohr: ?
12:16 AM zhanx: she changed offices
12:16 AM rue_mohr: k
12:16 AM zhanx: she is the nurse
12:16 AM rue_mohr: oh yea I recall you said she works at
12:16 AM zhanx: she is mad
12:17 AM zhanx: I made more this week and worked 9 hours than her this month
12:17 AM zhanx: told her people hate computers but need them
12:17 AM rue_mohr: yea but she dosn't make 80+ and she has deductions
12:18 AM zhanx: true
12:18 AM rue_mohr: I should check what I make, pretty sure its under 40/hr
12:18 AM zhanx: it should be more
12:18 AM zhanx: i am at 68 so far this year
12:19 AM rue_mohr: I wonder what rifraf billed out at
12:19 AM zhanx: skilled trades should hover around 40 anyways
12:19 AM rue_mohr: wellt eh company bills out 80-90
12:19 AM zhanx: they are undercutting
12:20 AM rue_mohr: we live in an intersting area
12:20 AM zhanx: i bill at 65-120
12:20 AM rue_mohr: we get lots of complaints about that much
12:20 AM zhanx: cable dog is the low end and server repair the high end
12:21 AM zhanx: i charge a buck per cat6 end
12:21 AM zhanx: plus time to run it
12:21 AM rue_mohr: a run for us is about $200-240 terminated and done
12:22 AM rue_mohr: generically
12:22 AM rue_mohr: but I always count wire length and go via that
12:22 AM zhanx: see i get run length, time to run
12:22 AM rue_mohr: ends & wire
12:22 AM zhanx: and term it
12:22 AM rue_mohr: y
12:26 AM rue_mohr: the 70'/hr is w/ termination, its a magic number
12:26 AM zhanx: cause the stuff in the ceiling etc is not all the same
12:26 AM zhanx: nope
12:26 AM rue_mohr: ya, some comes easy, some not
12:26 AM rue_mohr: we estimate, not quote
12:26 AM zhanx: rue remember i bill
12:26 AM rue_mohr: yea
12:26 AM zhanx: i use timers etc
12:26 AM rue_mohr: we go in 1/2hr blocks
12:26 AM rue_mohr: min 1 hr
12:26 AM zhanx: .25 hours min 1 hr
12:26 AM rue_mohr: nice to have a day of a bunch of 1/2hr service calls
12:26 AM zhanx: yep
12:26 AM zhanx: till that drive gets you
12:26 AM rue_mohr: new jack, done next, bad connection, fixed, next, replace recepticle, done, next, change lightbulb, done, next, change smoke, done next...
12:26 AM zhanx: Monday my drive is 3 hours south, 5 hour job. 1 hour north, 20 minutes, 1 hour north unknown
12:26 AM rue_mohr: I'v had days that billed out 12 hours in an 8 hour day
12:26 AM rue_mohr: ouch, in 1.5 hrs I can get from one end to the other end of anywhere here
12:26 AM zhanx: i need to run down state
12:27 AM rue_mohr: typical max is 1hr drive
12:27 AM zhanx: the "guy" there can not get a console cable to connect
12:27 AM rue_mohr: lots of 1/2hr drives
12:27 AM zhanx: so i am the backup to it
12:27 AM zhanx: its a 25,000 CTV server
12:27 AM rue_mohr: wow
12:28 AM zhanx: crash kit will be there when i get there to swap parts
12:28 AM rue_mohr: I was REALLY dissapointed in a parts quote for 5MP IP cameras, that under the fine print, stream at 1080
12:29 AM zhanx: wait what?
12:29 AM rue_mohr: yea
12:29 AM rue_mohr: WTF? indeed
12:29 AM zhanx: serious?
12:29 AM rue_mohr: why would I get 5MP cameras if they only do 1080?????
12:29 AM rue_mohr: I'v been caught before
12:30 AM zhanx: but why?
12:30 AM rue_mohr: one of the 1080 systems I sold didn't RECORD at 1080
12:30 AM rue_mohr: the playback is crap
12:30 AM rue_mohr: :S
12:30 AM zhanx: but the cameras
12:30 AM rue_mohr: yea
12:30 AM rue_mohr: all I can say is CHECK SPECS
12:30 AM zhanx: true
12:31 AM rue_mohr: I dont think the sales guys even knew
12:31 AM zhanx: next week if all goes right 8k profit
12:31 AM zhanx: if
12:31 AM rue_mohr: cool stuff
12:31 AM zhanx: i want to buy a house
12:31 AM zhanx: i am taking it all
12:32 AM rue_mohr: pull in @ hardware store and get 5/16 smooth rod
12:32 AM zhanx: got it
12:32 AM zhanx: printers
12:32 AM rue_mohr: k
12:32 AM rue_mohr: but watch the lengths
12:32 AM zhanx: 3d printer i might spend 5 more bucks on
12:32 AM rue_mohr: did I give you lengths for the smooth rods?
12:32 AM zhanx: i got them
12:32 AM rue_mohr: k
12:33 AM zhanx: i got 9 or 10 rods
12:33 AM rue_mohr: did that last part arrive?
12:33 AM zhanx: not yet
12:33 AM zhanx: monday
12:33 AM rue_mohr: and what about pullies for that synchro belt?
12:33 AM zhanx: waiting till i tear down these printer
12:33 AM rue_mohr: they gonna fit the right motors?
12:34 AM rue_mohr: the new inkjets use a really fine tooth belt
12:34 AM zhanx: heck i only got 2 motors that fit so far
12:34 AM rue_mohr: oh
12:34 AM zhanx: not the same
12:34 AM rue_mohr: imact printers
12:34 AM rue_mohr: if you can
12:34 AM zhanx: with all this work i can take my time on it
12:34 AM rue_mohr: tho, the motors from the document feeders on the large mutlifunction printers A+
12:34 AM rue_mohr: yea
12:35 AM zhanx: or i could spend some of the 27 grand i made this month and buy one
12:35 AM rue_mohr: keep an eye for printers in closest you can charge for 'dosposal' of
12:35 AM zhanx: i will
12:35 AM rue_mohr: they are out there
12:35 AM rue_mohr: esp hospitals, they go thru LOTS of printers
12:35 AM zhanx: yep
12:36 AM zhanx: i need to find time for a hair cut tomorrow
12:36 AM rue_mohr: should see me trying to organize a doc appt!
12:36 AM rue_mohr: may11? no, can we go ahead more?
12:37 AM zhanx: yep
12:37 AM zhanx: i am booked till sept right now
12:37 AM rue_mohr: y
12:37 AM zhanx: they hired me
12:37 AM zhanx: sept 19 is my first open day
12:39 AM rue_mohr: leave time to live.
12:39 AM zhanx: i blocked off the family camping trip fyi
12:39 AM zhanx: I did
12:39 AM rue_mohr: you never know when some idiot is gonna roll into your lane and do a head-on
12:39 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: i know
12:39 AM zhanx: still thinking about that
12:40 AM rue_mohr: yea, that should have you rattled for a while
12:40 AM zhanx: 5 combat tours later killed by a kid
12:40 AM zhanx: 6'5" 295 pound man ate a car
12:40 AM zhanx: he lost
12:41 AM rue_mohr: the majority of the accidents here have been while we were stopped
12:42 AM rue_mohr: there was a multi
12:42 AM rue_mohr: a lost-brakes
12:42 AM rue_mohr: and a WTF WERE YOU TEXTING OR WTF!?!
12:42 AM zhanx: are you a king now?
12:42 AM zhanx: the royal we?
12:43 AM rue_mohr: @ work
12:43 AM zhanx: k
12:43 AM zhanx: 27850.84 ytd billing done
12:43 AM rue_mohr: so when I'm stopped, most of my time is spent looking back
12:43 AM rue_mohr: flash brake lights
12:44 AM zhanx: taxes are gonna kill me
12:44 AM rue_mohr: yea, the govt is gonna make a mint
12:44 AM zhanx: only saved 1956.12
12:44 AM rue_mohr: I make like 40 or 60k year?
12:44 AM zhanx: guess i work for taxes the rest of the month
12:45 AM zhanx: i need at least 4,800 for taxes
12:45 AM rue_mohr: I get a refund for about the amount that it costs to have accountant do my taxes
12:45 AM rue_mohr: quite unmotivational
12:46 AM zhanx: if i save i was told my pay in amount with kids will be fine
12:46 AM rue_mohr: dunno how usa taxes work
12:46 AM zhanx: they are weird
12:46 AM zhanx: brackets
12:47 AM rue_mohr: we have those
12:47 AM rue_mohr: make less just over a bracket than you do just under it
12:47 AM zhanx: if i made x, i am good but it i make y i am fucked
12:47 AM zhanx: my current one is 20%
12:47 AM rue_mohr: there are a lot of people who just stop working at a point in the year
12:47 AM rue_mohr: and lots of companies that just close
12:48 AM zhanx: if i passed it to a level its 25%
12:48 AM rue_mohr: (for the rest of the year)
12:48 AM zhanx: yep i will do that
12:48 AM rue_mohr: the govt dosn't care AT ALL if the paint sprayer thing me and my buddies do is under $10k /year
12:48 AM zhanx: but the issue is
12:49 AM rue_mohr: and mostly dosn't care if its under $20k
12:49 AM zhanx: I am the guy up here
12:49 AM zhanx: 51 jobs 51 5 stars
12:50 AM zhanx: i was like really ny a star rating?
12:50 AM rue_mohr: arg, cloudy head, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO THINK
12:50 AM zhanx: the BBB considers me a goto business now for it support
12:51 AM rue_mohr: I need to work this out
12:51 AM rue_mohr: I cant convert my brain performing like this
12:51 AM zhanx: explain it
12:51 AM rue_mohr: I was given some cuda cads!
12:51 AM rue_mohr: headache
12:51 AM rue_mohr: like dehydrated
12:52 AM rue_mohr: might be part stress
12:52 AM zhanx: most likely
12:52 AM rue_mohr: was thinking to find a muscle relaxant
12:52 AM rue_mohr: rub on my head
12:52 AM zhanx: not sure on the
12:53 AM zhanx: rub on the forehead stuff
12:53 AM zhanx: lol
12:53 AM rue_mohr: dont know of a drug that does muscle->jello
12:53 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: wait for it
12:53 AM zhanx: i need to paste this
12:54 AM rue_mohr: but on a random youtube chain, turns out chloroform isn't hard to make!?
12:54 AM zhanx: its easy
12:54 AM zhanx: why is this not coming up
12:55 AM rue_mohr: starts with a slash?
12:55 AM rue_mohr: I want to be able to think clearly!
12:55 AM zhanx: no i did a job a month ago as a helper
12:55 AM rue_mohr: its like having a bruse that breaks any hope of concentration
12:56 AM zhanx: now they want me to be the lead
12:56 AM zhanx: 1300 a night
12:56 AM zhanx: 4 nights
12:56 AM rue_mohr: try not to schedule yourself 24/7
12:56 AM zhanx: i want to buy a house
12:57 AM rue_mohr: my palce is assssed at over $500k now
12:57 AM rue_mohr: W.T.F.
12:57 AM zhanx: which i could not buy
12:58 AM rue_mohr: for a 55' x 300'? lot
12:58 AM rue_mohr: 1/2 acre
12:58 AM zhanx: rue_mohr: yes i know 8 months of me working non stop will suck
12:58 AM zhanx: shit i rent 10 acre
12:58 AM zhanx: its 54k
12:59 AM zhanx: but in 8 months i can buy it
12:59 AM rue_mohr: /mo?
12:59 AM zhanx: i made a default of 1408 a month
12:59 AM zhanx: va pay
01:00 AM zhanx: need the down payment
01:00 AM rue_mohr: or 54k for 10 acreas?
01:01 AM zhanx: yep
01:01 AM rue_mohr: huh
01:01 AM rue_mohr: and I'm 500k for half
01:01 AM rue_mohr: wow
01:01 AM zhanx: location
01:01 AM rue_mohr: were all waiting for it to collapse
01:02 AM zhanx: i drive an hour to get somewhere
01:02 AM zhanx: 3 to somewhere nice
01:02 AM rue_mohr: I ahve 2 nowheres in a 1/2hr drive
01:02 AM zhanx: i got 1
01:02 AM rue_mohr: vancouver is half hour + 45mins ferry
01:03 AM rue_mohr: well + another 1/2hr
01:06 AM zhanx: so 1.45 hours ish
01:06 AM rue_mohr: I cant even clearly assess what projects I need work done on right now
01:06 AM rue_mohr: it feels like I have 8 people talking in my head
01:06 AM rue_mohr: I made a list
01:06 AM rue_mohr: zlog
01:06 AM rue_mohr: clog
01:06 AM rue_mohr: loggy
01:06 AM rue_mohr: loggerton
01:06 AM rue_mohr: log log
01:06 AM rue_mohr: tree log
01:06 AM rue_mohr: bit of latency there
01:07 AM zhanx: tad bit
01:07 AM zhanx: ok i am out
01:07 AM rue_mohr: 09:03 AM rue_mohr: paint flip-panels
01:07 AM rue_mohr: 09:03 AM rue_mohr: put new tarp on tent
01:07 AM rue_mohr: 09:05 AM rue_mohr: do corrections to engine flange
01:07 AM rue_mohr: gngiht
01:07 AM zhanx: night
01:07 AM rue_mohr: I give up being awake
08:47 AM rue_mohr: I did the flange corrections yesterday, but for some reason it didn't work
09:24 AM rue_mohr: pcb for race timer
04:17 PM zhanx: working on my greenhouse and garden stuff this weekend, got 6 trays to start seeds in and 100 more to go
04:18 PM zhanx: my save the bees seeds came in today also :D
09:35 PM * katsmeow bought a https://www.ebay.com/itm/USBISP-AVR-10-Pin-ISP-USB-Programmer-3-3V-5V-51-ATMEGA8-Downloader-Cable/202206509944
09:51 PM katsmeow is now known as ^kat^-afk
10:50 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/how_to/atmega168/10pin_isp.jpg
10:50 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/how_to/atmega168/6pin_isp.jpg
11:08 PM ^kat^-afk: Tom, no +5 ?
11:08 PM ^kat^-afk: what is VTG ?
11:10 PM Tom_L: +V
11:10 PM Tom_L: 5v, 3.3v
11:11 PM Tom_L: the red wire
11:11 PM ^kat^-afk: good, it can be used to pull up theprogram pin on the avr being programmed?
11:12 PM Tom_L: ?
11:12 PM ^kat^-afk: is all avr usb dongle programmers using thispinout?
11:12 PM Tom_L: afik
11:12 PM Tom_L: that's the standard pinout
11:12 PM Tom_L: the old old parallel port one had the 10 pin backwards
11:12 PM Tom_L: pdf
11:13 PM * ^kat^-afk saves them, thanks
11:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/avr/ispdongle.pdf
11:14 PM Tom_L: iirc that one had mosi miso backwards
11:15 PM Tom_L: vcc
11:15 PM Tom_L: skip that
11:15 PM Tom_L: i was scrolled back
11:16 PM Tom_L: anyway, one pdf out there had it backwards
11:16 PM ^kat^-afk: k
11:16 PM Tom_L: the first 2 are official atmel pinouts
11:17 PM rue_bed: kat your going to tell me if you want to do the next test with the carrier board you made,right?
11:18 PM ^kat^-afk: yeas sir
11:19 PM rue_bed: ok
11:19 PM ^kat^-afk: i can put off till tomorrow what i am doing atm, if you wanna? But i have not traced the wiring
11:22 PM rue_bed: why do we need to trace wiring?
11:22 PM rue_bed: pretty sure the wiring at this point is fine
11:23 PM rue_bed: iirc we just need to run avrdude, see if it'll connect
11:26 PM * ^kat^-afk goes afk to change shoes while you come up with the nextsentence
11:31 PM * rue_mohr dosn't know if its a go or not
11:32 PM Tom_L: start spewing out directions and find out
11:32 PM rue_mohr: na, not this time, that gets me into trouble
11:34 PM Tom_L: i kinda hate to see her use a usbisp because timing can be an issue with them sometimes
11:34 PM rue_mohr: no
11:34 PM rue_mohr: I'v not had problems with any programmers yet
11:35 PM Tom_L: i've seen plenty of ppl that have
11:35 PM rue_mohr: I definitly do NOT want to complicate things, esp with a different direction
11:35 PM rue_mohr: all she has to do now is run avrdude
11:35 PM rue_mohr: thats what should be done next
11:36 PM rue_mohr: from what I know anyhow, if something has changed, I dont know about it
11:39 PM rue_mohr: I'm trying to be more clear, esp after "power to the corner pins" suddently needed to include all 4 corners
11:40 PM Tom_L: pin numbers is best
11:40 PM rue_mohr: my whole life, ttl power was "corner pins except for that damn 74ls90 chip"
11:41 PM rue_mohr: and it didn't matter if it was 7 and 14 or 8 and 16 or 10 and 20, it was 'corner pins'
11:41 PM rue_mohr: -- except for that god damned 7490 --
11:42 PM rue_mohr: / 92 93
11:42 PM rue_mohr: "why is the 7490 chip getting so hot?"
11:44 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pc-big-head-potentiometer-3296W-100K-104-multiturn-trimming-potentiometer/32828920957.html
11:44 PM rue_mohr: I'm really circling the drain on this one
11:44 PM rue_mohr: $40 is a lot
11:44 PM rue_mohr: for a china order where I dont know what I'll get
11:45 PM rue_mohr: aha, there
11:45 PM rue_mohr: I just worked it out
11:45 PM rue_mohr: "no"
11:45 PM ^kat^-afk is now known as ^kat^
11:45 PM rue_mohr: those things are not good for servo positioning, they have a lot of backlash!
11:46 PM rue_mohr: have you ever tried to "slightly bump" the setting on a 10 turn like that?
11:46 PM rue_mohr: ok....
11:46 PM * rue_mohr cant quite close the listing...
11:47 PM rue_mohr: kat had a point about the older pots
11:47 PM rue_mohr: with the slot thru the wiper
11:47 PM rue_mohr: and I ahv a bunch
11:48 PM rue_mohr: the solution is there, I just have to work with it
11:48 PM rue_mohr: maybe I can...
11:48 PM * rue_mohr goes back to trying to buy something new
11:48 PM Tom_L: umm, you plannin to help her?
11:48 PM rue_mohr: china has brand itself 'tenstar robot'
11:49 PM rue_mohr: I'v not been given the go-ahead
11:49 PM Tom_L: * ^kat^-afk is now known as ^kat^
11:49 PM rue_mohr: from myunderstanding she's not ready
11:49 PM Tom_L: seems enough for me
11:49 PM rue_mohr: kat do you want to try the board you made?
11:49 PM * ^kat^ is waiting on rue before puttng dinenr to one side and getting the stuff plugged in
11:50 PM rue_mohr: well finish dinner!
11:50 PM ^kat^: come tho think of it, where's the usb cable
11:50 PM rue_mohr: say when
11:51 PM rue_mohr: is there something that is flexible, but wont twist?
11:52 PM Tom_L: flex drive on a weed eater
11:53 PM rue_mohr: counterwound cable...
11:53 PM rue_mohr: hmmm
11:54 PM ^kat^: spedo cable
11:54 PM ^kat^: some brake cables
11:54 PM Tom_L: u joint
11:55 PM rue_mohr: hmm, I wonder what the resolution of a trim pot is
11:55 PM rue_mohr: % wise
11:55 PM Tom_L: cv joint
11:56 PM rue_mohr: there must be some nonlinearity
11:58 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tripod-C203-Single-switch-variable-resistor-potentiometer-C20K-skillet-audio-amplifier-to-adjust-the-volume/32245356654.html
11:58 PM rue_mohr: hmm, they killed it, pins are upside down