#garfield Logs

Apr 05 2018

12:00 AM rue_bed: katsmeow, what is openeuphoria?
12:03 AM rue_bed: ai?
12:03 AM katsmeow: no
12:03 AM rue_bed: hey, what day is it?
12:03 AM katsmeow: it had a lot of pronise tobe used in Ai, but the assholes that took over control have literally ru off every developer they had
12:03 AM zhanx: its thursday now
12:03 AM katsmeow: thorsday
12:03 AM rue_bed: oh no, today was wed
12:03 AM rue_bed: and tommotor is thurs
12:03 AM rue_bed: garbage day tommotorw
12:03 AM rue_bed: arg
12:04 AM rue_bed: slept after work, then went shopping
12:05 AM rue_bed: but it must have been late, everything was closed
12:05 AM * katsmeow hands rue a pad of post-it notes
12:05 AM rue_bed: even canadian tire
12:05 AM rue_bed: I have THOSE everywhere
12:05 AM rue_bed: I need _people_ do actually remind me
12:05 AM rue_bed: dejavoo
12:05 AM rue_bed: (double dejavoo)
12:06 AM katsmeow: how much $??? should i pay for 4 pcs AA 2A LR06 HR6 3000mAh 1.2V Ni-MH , free S&H usa seller ?
12:06 AM rue_bed: Tom_L, could you do a log search for dejavoo for me?
12:06 AM rue_bed: if your not gonna use them right away, dont do it
12:06 AM rue_bed: otheriwse, $6
12:07 AM katsmeow: try them in the camera
12:07 AM rue_bed: katsmeow, do you know if you have a parallel port programmer?
12:07 AM rue_bed: does your computer have a parallel port?
12:07 AM katsmeow: i know i do not
12:07 AM katsmeow: it may, or i have a card to do it
12:07 AM rue_bed: do you have a 74xx125 :D
12:08 AM katsmeow: yeas, and 126
12:08 AM rue_bed: and db25m?
12:08 AM katsmeow: HC,, and F , i think
12:08 AM katsmeow: dunno
12:08 AM rue_bed: dip14?
12:08 AM rue_bed: protoboard?
12:08 AM katsmeow: sop smd
12:08 AM katsmeow: .1 perfboard
12:08 AM rue_bed: hmm
12:08 AM katsmeow: and blank copperclad
12:09 AM * rue_bed puts on brakes
12:09 AM rue_bed: lets not go down this path
12:09 AM rue_bed: wire-wrap-wire?
12:09 AM katsmeow: yeas
12:09 AM rue_bed: no dip 74xx125?
12:09 AM katsmeow: and tons of ribbon
12:09 AM rue_bed: how about dip 74xx244?
12:09 AM * katsmeow loooks
12:10 AM rue_bed: I suspect you have more stock than I do
12:10 AM rue_bed: and I'm set for a nuclear war
12:10 AM zhanx: i put everything away minus my 3d printer stuff
12:10 AM rue_bed: (less any emi pulses)
12:11 AM rue_bed: what is the point of feeling tired if you cant fall asleep?
12:11 AM katsmeow: no known dip 244
12:11 AM rue_bed: how about an apple IIe motherboard?
12:11 AM rue_bed: er, did you skip apple
12:12 AM rue_bed: lots of socketed chips
12:12 AM rue_bed: maybe one on a 286 memory expansion board?
12:13 AM rue_bed: kat, we could adapt a soic
12:13 AM katsmeow: i dunno rue, prolly
12:13 AM katsmeow: i have a stack of stuffed pcbs out there
12:13 AM rue_bed: I'v done it a few times, drill out the die of a dip and strap a soic to the top of it
12:13 AM katsmeow: then why are you wriging sweat outs me over a DIP 244 ??
12:13 AM rue_bed: ok, want to try to find a dip 244 or 125 ?
12:14 AM katsmeow: NO
12:14 AM katsmeow: it's after midnite, NO
12:14 AM rue_bed: to make a nice reliable parallel port programmer
12:14 AM rue_bed: tommorow, whatever
12:14 AM zhanx: katsmeow: for your sea going stuff https://phys.org/news/2018-03-field-device-harvests-air.html
12:14 AM katsmeow: if i had a parport toprogram with
12:14 AM rue_bed: I'll be at work all day
12:15 AM katsmeow: The system, based on relatively new high-surface-area materials called metal-organic frameworks (MOFs), can extract potable water from even the driest of desert air, <<== yea, i got LOTS of MOFs laying around ehre
12:16 AM rue_bed: hot sprayed metal?
12:16 AM katsmeow: water company here disconnected me and pulled themeter the day after igot back from Forida,, 5 years ago?
12:17 AM katsmeow: they disconnected me while i was in the office handing them money
12:17 AM katsmeow: when i left, i was not late on the bill, the day after i got back from Fla
12:17 AM katsmeow: i don;t wanna do business with people like that anyhow
12:26 AM katsmeow: ...
12:26 AM katsmeow: i said something wrong, dunno what
12:26 AM katsmeow: sorry
06:47 PM Tom_itx: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Wiring/Power_Meter.jpg
06:48 PM Tom_itx: the problem i see is it will only be on when the spindle is on and it takes a brief moment to initialize
06:49 PM Tom_itx: not sure if that will effect the motor or not
06:49 PM Tom_itx: also got not 1 but 2 cards today
07:50 PM rue_mohr: as I start falling asleep I hear clear voices
07:51 PM rue_mohr: hmm, you need to charge your battery
07:52 PM rue_mohr: it gradually drwon out the real noise
07:52 PM Tom_itx: it came out of the door opener.. it's a gonner
07:52 PM rue_mohr: ?
07:53 PM Tom_itx: the battery
07:53 PM rue_mohr: at only 8.5?
07:53 PM rue_mohr: geez, my meter sucks them down to 2
07:53 PM Tom_itx: it would freeze up
07:53 PM Tom_itx: so i replaced it
07:53 PM Tom_itx: it's an exterior door opener
07:54 PM Tom_itx: in the cold weather it would quit so i put another one in it
08:06 PM Tom_itx: was about 70F today and it's supposed to snow tomorrow
08:29 PM Tom_itx: rue_mohr
08:29 PM Tom_itx: can you make an opto board to isolate IO?
08:30 PM rue_mohr: 7N35?
08:30 PM Tom_itx: i'm not sure
08:31 PM Tom_itx: do you isolate the IO to the driver on your cnc's?
09:14 PM Tom_itx: rue_mohr are those fast enough for step signals?
09:48 PM zhanx: rue_mohr: no round two of getting an avr working i see
11:15 PM rue_mohr: I just woke up
11:15 PM katsmeow: o
11:15 PM rue_mohr: Tom_itx, no I dont
11:15 PM rue_mohr: katsmeow, what do you have for programmers
11:15 PM rue_mohr: whats in the pile
11:16 PM * rue_mohr waits for ludid() to complete
11:16 PM zhanx: any avr can be a programmer
11:17 PM rue_mohr: yes, we dont have an avr we can program to be a programmer
11:17 PM rue_mohr: she has mega8238 iirc?
11:17 PM katsmeow: no
11:17 PM rue_mohr: so we have to bootstrap this
11:17 PM rue_mohr: katsmeow, awake, cool, what do you have for programmer?
11:17 PM zhanx: thought she had a dragon
11:17 PM rue_mohr: you rounded everything up today right?
11:18 PM rue_mohr: I dont want to use the dragon cause she got stuck in its emulator last time
11:18 PM rue_mohr: lets try and avoid it
11:18 PM katsmeow: not in the mood tonite, was nearly arrested today at post office, i refused to leave AFTER the manager said he had told carriers to not deliver any more packages to me, and he refused to say why
11:19 PM katsmeow: so he called the police, police said i had to leave, and manager can do whatever he pleases with packages to me in the mail
11:19 PM rue_mohr: I thought packages were like super special in the usa and had to be delivered
11:19 PM zhanx: they are
11:19 PM katsmeow: apparently not, i had to drive to town to get one today
11:20 PM rue_mohr: cause it needed a signature?
11:20 PM katsmeow: i had even signed a legal release for the USPS to deliver packages to me
11:20 PM katsmeow: nope, did not require a signature
11:20 PM zhanx: that falls under 18 U.S. Code § 1698
11:21 PM katsmeow: zhanx, i cannot help that
11:21 PM katsmeow: this is alabama, they make something up, callitpolicy, and that'w what they do till they change their minds
11:22 PM zhanx: that you could sue on
11:22 PM zhanx: and win
11:22 PM rue_mohr: she cant lawyer$ to sue
11:23 PM katsmeow: right
11:24 PM katsmeow: it's like the courts recognising there is a law about animals running at large, but they refuse to enforce it
11:25 PM katsmeow: i was getting threatened by the dogs and the owners, but some people were dying from dog attacks
11:25 PM zhanx: 800-275-8777 is the federal number for complains
11:25 PM zhanx: for usps
11:25 PM zhanx: locals can get bent on it
11:26 PM katsmeow: i filed a complaint at USPS.com
11:26 PM zhanx: i actually got the fastest response twitting to them of all things
11:26 PM * katsmeow dials the phone number
11:27 PM katsmeow: and every package they did deliver in March , and theone today, the box was full of holes
11:28 PM rue_mohr: can I send you a 'bleedable' Fragile package?
11:28 PM zhanx: only gonna use this once, you are a liberal in a conservative area and they know and are harassing you due to it, usps is very liberal
11:28 PM katsmeow: "offies are currently closed"
11:29 PM katsmeow: rue, i have asked you to several times, you said it costs too much
11:30 PM rue_mohr: er, k, I'm mortguage paid now!
11:30 PM katsmeow: what does that matter?
11:31 PM zhanx: rue is cheap
11:31 PM katsmeow: of course, now i don;t have a paypal account any more
11:31 PM katsmeow: i wouldfront rue the money to send it
11:31 PM rue_mohr: I have money now, its my year for spending
11:31 PM zhanx: oh really?
11:31 PM rue_mohr: I just cant afford to have packages sent ot me from US ebay sellers
11:31 PM katsmeow: 1) paypal was refusing me accessto my account 2) Peter Thiel gave $millions to Trump for president
11:32 PM zhanx: millions pale to 1.4 billion spent to lose. just saying
11:32 PM katsmeow: paypal refused to close the account until i posted data to access the account online
11:33 PM katsmeow: i stated 2 facts, and you are doing a comparison to prove trump winning iwas good?
11:34 PM katsmeow: hello?
11:34 PM rue_mohr: I'm designing a bleeding package
11:35 PM zhanx: peter thiel is a private citizen, you made use or not use his service as you choose, but elon musk started paypal
11:35 PM rue_mohr: 500ml enough to get all over lots of packages?
11:35 PM zhanx: 1000ml
11:35 PM rue_mohr: :)
11:35 PM zhanx: flat rate box
11:35 PM rue_mohr: of course
11:36 PM zhanx: make em pay for fucking with kats mail the fun way, and make sure there is toner in there, it sucks to clean up
11:36 PM rue_mohr: katsmeow, if you get it, and its in one peice, DONT PUCTURE IT!
11:36 PM rue_mohr: ooo toner powder?
11:36 PM zhanx: yep
11:36 PM rue_mohr: I was thinking inkjet ink
11:36 PM zhanx: need some?
11:36 PM rue_mohr: have LOTS of toner powder
11:36 PM zhanx: i got a full inkjet cartrige
11:36 PM rue_mohr: I have half a deck of them
11:37 PM zhanx: i can pop over the bridge and send it
11:37 PM rue_mohr: yer itching to come over aren'tya?
11:37 PM zhanx: i was tuesday remember?
11:38 PM rue_mohr: I got a guest bedroom, you dont have to make it a return trip in one day
11:38 PM zhanx: more like 3 days i am east coast now
11:38 PM rue_mohr: and there's always the air-drop option
11:38 PM rue_mohr: ah
11:38 PM * rue_mohr tries to install an arduino library
11:39 PM rue_mohr: I can get biohazard tape from the hospital
11:39 PM zhanx: my wife works at one its free for me
11:39 PM rue_mohr: their gonna smash her package nomatter where it comes from
11:40 PM rue_mohr: even I'm pretty sure they do it on purpose
11:40 PM zhanx: aluminum frame?
11:40 PM katsmeow: i am sure they do
11:40 PM rue_mohr: na
11:40 PM zhanx: oh add a bit of oil to the mix
11:40 PM rue_mohr: just a big fluffy box of reasonably contained messy stuff in even 1" of bubble wrap
11:40 PM zhanx: makes it fun to clean up
11:41 PM rue_mohr: atleast from the news reprt of the evacuation you would know where and maybe who is puncturing the boxes
11:41 PM katsmeow: lol
11:41 PM zhanx: that would be funny
11:41 PM rue_mohr: and maybe after 1 or two they would stop doing it
11:41 PM zhanx: might as well coat the outside in baby powder then box it
11:42 PM katsmeow: or, they'd quarentine all my packages and dynamite them
11:42 PM rue_mohr: I ahve 7 segment digits for kat, I was going to pack them with spikes that push out when they are crushed
11:42 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, oo the subtle approach?
11:42 PM rue_mohr: katsmeow, are they ever going to give you another package again anyhow?
11:43 PM katsmeow: i expect they will make me drive into town for all packages now,, altho they may also ban me from the post office
11:43 PM rue_mohr: sounds like they already did
11:44 PM katsmeow: i think they must serve me to make it official, they didn;t say it was permanent today, and gettng a tag to show up in person and pick it up is an invitation onto the property
11:44 PM rue_mohr: indeed
11:45 PM rue_mohr: they gave you a tag today tho, yes?
11:45 PM katsmeow: yeas
11:45 PM katsmeow: which is why i was there, they didn;t deliver a package
11:45 PM rue_mohr: had you that argument ready today?
11:45 PM katsmeow: had it many times over the years, which is why i signed their legal waiver for permission to leave packages
11:51 PM zhanx: suppose i should look up and order the bearings i need for this printer
11:52 PM * rue_mohr chews and mumbles
11:52 PM rue_mohr: LMUU8
11:52 PM rue_mohr: or LM8UU
11:52 PM zhanx: yea lm8uu and i don't have any
11:53 PM rue_mohr: the printed bushings are better
11:53 PM rue_mohr: I resented upgrading
11:53 PM rue_mohr: you just have to work the bushings in first
11:54 PM zhanx: wait so used the printed ones i am getting?
11:54 PM rue_mohr: yea, prolly better fit
11:54 PM rue_mohr: after workign them in
11:54 PM rue_mohr: I used a ~8mm rod in a drill with some oil and ran them in
11:55 PM zhanx: k, i am gonna hold off ordering anything then till i get the plastic and start putting it together
11:55 PM rue_mohr: the ball bearing ones were worse, like I say, resented upgrading
11:55 PM zhanx: i am one nema short
11:55 PM rue_mohr: on my new machine I'm removing them
11:55 PM rue_mohr: I designed a new carriage that uses rollers
11:55 PM rue_mohr: and removed another one for just a printed block
11:55 PM zhanx: but i got a couple of printer jobs coming up and might get one
11:55 PM katsmeow: use two bearigs in opposition?
11:56 PM rue_mohr: katsmeow, I did a 5 point grab on one bar, and two point on the opposign side
11:56 PM rue_mohr: the printers are designed badly and all the bearings bind against each other
11:56 PM rue_mohr: none of the axies are designed bind-free
11:57 PM rue_mohr: and you will hear people saying that the LM8uu wore out on their printers
11:57 PM rue_mohr: and it'll be cause they were binding against each other
11:57 PM rue_mohr: but they wont admit that
11:57 PM zhanx: this printer is just to get me 3d printing
11:58 PM zhanx: my next one will be custom for me
11:58 PM katsmeow: o
11:58 PM rue_mohr: I can give you all my custom parts
11:58 PM rue_mohr: see if you like them
11:58 PM zhanx: ok but i am doing tool changer print heads
11:58 PM rue_mohr: heh ok
11:59 PM zhanx: wont be cheap or easy
11:59 PM rue_mohr: if it was cheap and easy it would take years
11:59 PM zhanx: but i can / could to 10 color prints