#garfield Logs

Apr 02 2018

12:17 AM katsmeow: i need goto bed
12:20 AM katsmeow: gnites
01:50 PM Mohr: Rue. Work on the mecha hand
01:51 PM Mohr: And the bender table
03:41 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAawhg6JtyY
03:43 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXpCPVOr8s
03:43 PM Tom_L: kat made a bender like that
08:20 PM zhanx: rue_mohr: 3d printer on hold for 1 week but I did get some rod cut today for it
08:21 PM zhanx: unless my schedule clears up or something
09:34 PM rue_mohr: cool
09:35 PM rue_mohr: I welded the pipe bender up for makeing the mecha control stuff,
09:35 PM zhanx: did some research did you upgrade the 5/16 to 10 mm on yor?
09:35 PM zhanx: your
09:35 PM rue_mohr: I got out the stuff for making its hand and the tendon dissapeared
09:35 PM rue_mohr: so, I'll have to try that again
09:35 PM rue_mohr: I got a heap of supplies since for everything
09:36 PM rue_mohr: almost everything I need for the counteracting muscle is there
09:36 PM zhanx: minus the hot end i might have a printer this month
09:37 PM rue_mohr: oh
09:37 PM rue_mohr: I have clues for you
09:38 PM rue_mohr: I realsized I built a printer since you started
09:38 PM rue_mohr: I was taking good pics
09:38 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/reprap3/slide.htm
09:39 PM rue_mohr: I got lazy somewhere tho
09:39 PM rue_mohr: and I have some changes to make your life easier
09:42 PM Tom_L: what's the pipe flare for?
09:42 PM rue_mohr: push the pulley off the motor
09:42 PM zhanx: looks like to remove the gear
09:43 PM rue_mohr: ? ok, there is totally a tangent in there
09:44 PM rue_mohr: the blue stuff is pathetic trimmer line
09:44 PM rue_mohr: if you can get 30-50lb fishing line your golden
09:44 PM rue_mohr: I put 2:1 on the motors, you dont have to do that
09:44 PM Tom_L: kevlar
09:44 PM rue_mohr: and rebuilt the carriage
09:44 PM rue_mohr: and had supper...
09:45 PM rue_mohr: right, anyhow
09:45 PM rue_mohr: ask stuff and I'll add details I suppose
09:45 PM * rue_mohr falls asleep
09:48 PM rue_mohr: ok, I'm not liking the google results for "melatonin disorder"
10:12 PM * katsmeow notes she has been using the same email client for 18 years
10:13 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, where do you get models of all those parts
10:14 PM Tom_L: kat
10:14 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAawhg6JtyY
10:14 PM Tom_L: <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXpCPVOr8s
10:14 PM Tom_L: <Tom_L> kat made a bender like that
10:14 PM katsmeow: Tom
10:14 PM Tom_L: one of those
10:14 PM Tom_L: forgot which one
10:14 PM * katsmeow looks
10:14 PM katsmeow: willtake a min to get the urls tot he laptop
10:15 PM Tom_L: goin to bed anyway
10:15 PM rue_mohr: well, thingiverse, there is an official git repo of the i2
10:15 PM rue_mohr: but I redesign almost everything
10:15 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, where do you get models of all those parts?
10:16 PM Tom_L: and you should watch the spring video
10:16 PM rue_mohr: I did
10:16 PM rue_mohr: thats why I made a mandrill like that for my lathe
10:16 PM rue_mohr: I was hoping for more inspration for the bender like kats making
10:17 PM rue_mohr: instead he said to make 3 and live with what I end up with
10:17 PM Tom_L: no sound here
10:17 PM rue_mohr: WHHAAAAAAT?
10:17 PM Tom_L: just skipped to the good parts
10:17 PM Tom_L: not on this pc
10:18 PM Tom_L: this world already has too much noise
10:18 PM katsmeow: [10:15:pm] <Tom_L> <Tom_L> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXpCPVOr8s <<== the bender , but i used 3" **heavy** channel instead of angle
10:18 PM Tom_L: ahh
10:19 PM katsmeow: i made "springs" too, 20+ yrs ago, if you don;t count i later cut each turn off individually and wove them into chain maille clothing
10:20 PM rue_mohr: I stopped working on my chainmaile when the hawsaw slipped and did a good one on my finger while I was making rings
10:21 PM katsmeow: i made a motor-assisted side nippers to cut them
10:22 PM rue_mohr: part of the issue was that I realzied I could make straight cloth, but when it came to arms and things I'd be screwed
10:22 PM katsmeow: 12vdc motor gearbox sat on floor, pulled on truck brake cable up to handheld nippers
10:23 PM katsmeow: Tom, how to make a cutting disc guide on the angle : http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/step1.jpg
10:23 PM katsmeow: Tom, how to make a cutting disc guide on the angle : http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/step2.jpg
10:23 PM zhanx: rue was test fitting my leg pieces made out of wood, 2 broke of 4, cheated ordered the plastic pieces
10:24 PM katsmeow: http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/step3.jpg <<ready for the cutting to commence, just keep the disc against the guide
10:24 PM Tom_L: i saw those i believe
10:24 PM katsmeow: http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/step4.jpg <<== the aftermath of the cutting
10:25 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:25 PM rue_mohr: oooo
10:25 PM Tom_L: you showed me those
10:25 PM katsmeow: http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/result1.jpg
10:25 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, ah, ok
10:25 PM rue_mohr: you got i2 and not i3 right?
10:25 PM rue_mohr: that'll add $50 to the project...
10:25 PM rue_mohr: but ok
10:25 PM zhanx: rue i did the grain with legs and it broke on the circle, and yes
10:25 PM zhanx: 29
10:26 PM Tom_L: you want i2 or i3?
10:26 PM rue_mohr: $50cad ;)
10:26 PM zhanx: i2
10:26 PM katsmeow: http://designerthinking.com/images/sheetmetalbrake/result2.jpg <<== much more metal to weld the hinge tube unto
10:26 PM rue_mohr: perspective, the i4 is 0% printable
10:26 PM rue_mohr: the i2 is completely printable
10:26 PM zhanx: i dont care if the i2 is ugly it works
10:27 PM zhanx: and from what i have seen better than the i3
10:27 PM rue_mohr: so, the i3 and i4 is not a reprap
10:27 PM zhanx: oh rue_mohr you see this?
10:27 PM Tom_L: where on thingi do i find those
10:27 PM zhanx: Klipper
10:27 PM zhanx: its a linux printer driver for 3d printers
10:28 PM zhanx: want the git hub?
10:28 PM zhanx: https://github.com/KevinOConnor/klipper
10:29 PM rue_mohr: dont try the integrated stuff, the world isn't there yet
10:29 PM rue_mohr: just use pronterface
10:29 PM zhanx: pronterface is installed
10:29 PM zhanx: but you can test that
10:29 PM zhanx: you got more printers
10:29 PM rue_mohr: na, you CANT just hit print, theres stuff that usually needs doing
10:30 PM Tom_L: which i2 should i look at? there are a bazillion of them
10:30 PM zhanx: prusa i2
10:30 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, ah, heh
10:30 PM rue_mohr: zhanx, which kit did you get?
10:30 PM zhanx: one sec
10:31 PM zhanx: https://www.ebay.com/itm/RepRap-3D-Printer-Prusa-Mendel-i2-Plastic-Printed-Parts-Extruder-Printed-parts/132225780954
10:32 PM rue_mohr: ah good, its got some fixed stuff
10:32 PM rue_mohr: yea, Tom_L thats a fine kit
10:34 PM zhanx: i didn't want to do kit but the oak was just breaking with no stress due to grain pattern
10:34 PM zhanx: and it would be more $$ for more wood
10:35 PM Tom_L: i considered aluminum but it would take forever
10:35 PM rue_mohr: it can be bootstrapped
10:35 PM zhanx: you can get the plans off thingverse tom if you want to make them
10:35 PM Tom_L: that's what i was asking
10:36 PM zhanx: one sec i will get you the upgraded one
10:36 PM Tom_L: i wouldn't have time to machine them anyway
10:37 PM Tom_L: and any 'snap fit' pieces wouldn't snap
10:37 PM rue_mohr: I'v almost repalced all the parts with stuff I made anyhow
10:40 PM zhanx: thingiverse search is broken again
10:40 PM Tom_L: don't worry about it
10:41 PM zhanx: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:181524
10:41 PM zhanx: google found it
10:41 PM zhanx: its the 10mm upgrade for a stiffer frame
10:42 PM rue_mohr: thingiverse search is something that dosn't work that often
10:45 PM katsmeow: mirror the site and searchit yourself?
10:53 PM katsmeow: Tom, also on my bender, i have specific brace to keep the clamp from moving back as the bend is made, and it's got threads so i can adjust it
10:53 PM Tom_L: nice
11:00 PM katsmeow: "unless you haveto duck every time it comes around, mandrel runout is prolly not important"
11:01 PM rue_mohr: :) isn't he practical!
11:02 PM katsmeow: one feature of my chainmaille "lathe" was a wooden 2x4 block, because if i held a 2x4 just so, there was enough friction to tighten the wire as it fed off the spool, so i welded up a 2x4 holder just so
11:03 PM katsmeow: how did i decide the measurements? i already told you: it was just so
11:05 PM rue_mohr: my drafting teacher didn't like when I did |<------------ as required --------------->|
11:05 PM katsmeow: "this dedicated took with bronze slip and replaceable mig nozzel, offers the discerning spring maker the surgical precision they might not even need"
11:06 PM katsmeow: "set lathe to lowest speed? i used a hose clamp on a variable speed drill
11:23 PM katsmeow: so is all TIG ac ?
11:23 PM katsmeow: nm, there;s a switch
11:52 PM * katsmeow ponders how to use a compound slide in a way that doesn;t put the taper hand crank into the work or into the chuck
11:53 PM katsmeow: otehr than the taper attachment
11:53 PM katsmeow: ah, bend the lathe spendle
11:54 PM katsmeow: spendle,, pricey