#garfield Logs

Mar 22 2018

12:07 AM mynick: 60ft tower, 20ft above water, 40ft below water, 20x20ft top = 30 pcs of 20ft long countedon one side
12:52 AM mynick: gnite then
09:37 PM katsmeow: http://designerthinking.com/USPS.damage.html
09:38 PM rue_: do you think it was a forklift?
09:38 PM rue_: thats not another new one is it?
09:38 PM Tom_L: i'd file a claim
09:38 PM rue_: thats from before?
09:38 PM katsmeow: that was this afternoon
09:38 PM Tom_L: but you can't do that unless you're a shipper
09:38 PM katsmeow: but, item inside was undamaged
09:39 PM rue_: ah
09:39 PM Tom_L: good they packed it well
09:39 PM katsmeow: i asked and asked to get extra protection
09:39 PM katsmeow: he said "free shipping", and i said "oh shit"
09:39 PM rue_: send the pics to the shipper for sure
09:39 PM Tom_L: ^^
09:39 PM Tom_L: i would
09:39 PM Tom_L: rue_ any more on the can project?
09:39 PM katsmeow: i sent him the url, ebay's mess-aging would accept onl;y 90% of each pic
09:40 PM rue_: a bit, nothing that shows yet
09:41 PM katsmeow: i worked out the heat warp in the brake clamp, with a tap from the sledge
09:42 PM rue_: ? you thermally warped it into place!? wow, I knew it
09:42 PM rue_: your good
09:42 PM katsmeow: not what i said
09:42 PM rue_: er the reverse
09:42 PM rue_: yea, I'm reading it different now
09:43 PM katsmeow: i have flat concrete slab, i set one end of the clamp on a 1/4 thick steel plate, then dropped the sledge firmly on the center of the clamp
09:44 PM Tom_L: i did that on a couple pieces on my mill
09:45 PM katsmeow: a process i'll appreciate having a calibrated press for nest time
09:46 PM rue_: Inotice that russians are big buyers fo parts from china
09:47 PM katsmeow: really? where did you get that data?
09:47 PM rue_: looking at feedback and stuff
09:47 PM katsmeow: or,, they just looking for bargains too?
09:47 PM Tom_L: maybe they just take the time to give feedback
09:49 PM rue_: https://scontent.fyvr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/q82/p370x247/13450109_1641646036158647_4793153710116353499_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=dffb7c195a71f8ff10dee3ab821e2cea&oe=5B7399D9
09:49 PM rue_: will that come up kat?
09:49 PM * katsmeow adds punctuation
09:50 PM katsmeow: oooooooooooo, pretty
09:50 PM * rue_ says "but the sign"
09:51 PM katsmeow: yeas, i saved the whole pic right away
09:51 PM rue_: its like "hey, I can relax here"
09:52 PM katsmeow: that cat isn;t relaxed at that particular instant
09:52 PM rue_: not quite
09:52 PM rue_: could be in about 3 seconds
09:54 PM rue_: so, I designed a remote case, and noticed the pillar for the screw was 1mm out, so I corrected it
09:54 PM rue_: after I started printing it I realized that 1mm gap was for the pcb
09:55 PM rue_: *sigh*
09:55 PM rue_: supposed to be sandwhiched between the stuff that handles the *only* screw holding it togethor
09:57 PM katsmeow: happens to me sometimes
09:57 PM katsmeow: "fix" something i built differently on purpose
09:57 PM * rue_ nods
09:58 PM rue_: so, I have a boat engine that I need to get working for the mecha
09:58 PM rue_: I still dont know how to spell mecha
09:58 PM rue_: mecca?
09:58 PM rue_: hmm
09:58 PM rue_: what did they do in 1980?
09:58 PM rue_: mech?
09:58 PM rue_: hmm
09:58 PM katsmeow: almost always "robot"
09:59 PM rue_: no, battle mech
09:59 PM rue_: or mecha
09:59 PM rue_: or mecca
09:59 PM rue_: mmmm
09:59 PM katsmeow: in 1980, at least were i was, "android" was too sexual, and "gyndroid" was unheard of
10:00 PM katsmeow: i hope my dentist is in tomorrow
10:06 PM katsmeow: guys were saying they wanted to mate with an android, and i was so confused
10:11 PM rue_: more than you wanted to know ;)
10:11 PM rue_: the horrid thing is that the mecha isn't hard to build
10:11 PM rue_: the hard part is a control system
10:12 PM rue_: I need a force feedback suit
10:12 PM katsmeow: yea,, being gay was not suc an open topic back then, ad the nerds wanted male robots to have sex with them?
10:12 PM rue_: BUT, I'v learned some things
10:12 PM rue_: like that 1:1 morement isn't needed for force feedback
10:13 PM katsmeow: true, most power steering is variable ratio
10:13 PM rue_: I'm trying to knock off projects
10:13 PM rue_: so I'v worked out I need to write my editor
10:14 PM rue_: and I dont know where to really start with it
10:14 PM rue_: the middle is ok,
10:14 PM katsmeow: a really tall case statement?
10:14 PM katsmeow: the screen formatting include?
10:14 PM rue_: keybaord input and screen output are an issue
10:15 PM rue_: esp cause I want to have mouse in there too
10:15 PM rue_: but the basic text objects of the systems available cant do what I want, ideally.
10:15 PM rue_: so, I'm selling myself on compromises
10:17 PM Tom_L: for how much?
10:17 PM Tom_L: any bids yet?
10:18 PM Tom_L: what happened to the days when robotics was active and ppl were building stuff?
10:19 PM katsmeow: it died when thebear, me, and what'shisnick left?
10:20 PM Tom_L: rif
10:20 PM katsmeow: yeas
10:20 PM Tom_L: i still do stuff but it's kinda thinned out
10:22 PM Tom_L: less time so i gotta prioritize
10:22 PM katsmeow: i have collected materials (wheelchair gearmotors and wheels, riding mower parts, forklift motors, golfcart transaxles, etc)
10:23 PM katsmeow: neighbor has no dogs, so i can be outside now
10:23 PM Tom_L: i gotta figure out a larger spindle motor and something to drive it
10:23 PM Tom_L: this works but it's underpowered
10:23 PM katsmeow: treadmill motor from recycler
10:24 PM Tom_L: dc brushed?
10:24 PM katsmeow: yeas
10:24 PM katsmeow: high rpm
10:24 PM katsmeow: permanent magnet
10:24 PM Tom_L: how high?
10:24 PM katsmeow: one i looked at last was 4600 rpm
10:24 PM Tom_L: that's about right
10:25 PM * rue_ wakes up in the chair
10:25 PM rue_: !??!?!?!?!?!
10:25 PM rue_: is the rice done!?
10:25 PM katsmeow: you'd rather wake up on the floor?
10:25 PM rue_: wait, did I put any on?
10:25 PM katsmeow: no
10:25 PM rue_: arg
10:25 PM rue_: is the 3d printer done?
10:26 PM rue_: how about the launcry?
10:26 PM katsmeow: i keep telling you, get the robots to earn their keep
10:26 PM Tom_L: did you fix the boo boo on the print first?
10:31 PM katsmeow: <coff>
10:32 PM Tom_L: i should figure out a rotary axis for this thing
10:38 PM rue_shop3: nope (print not done)
10:38 PM rue_shop3: na, there will be other things I dont know about, I'll let it finish and correct a bunch at once
10:39 PM Tom_L: you saw that chamfered part i did didn't you?
10:39 PM Tom_L: i was wondering if the can grip could be shaped like that
10:41 PM rue_: the trigger?
10:41 PM Tom_L: A9 A10
10:41 PM Tom_L: with a chamfer instead of a step
10:41 PM rue_: the rectangular?
10:41 PM rue_: brb
10:44 PM rue_shop3: odd
10:44 PM rue_shop3: the radii dont match
10:44 PM Tom_L: on what?
10:45 PM rue_shop3: I took a pic
10:45 PM rue_shop3: its in the PI folder
10:45 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG23Mar2018_034347.jpg
10:46 PM Tom_L: oh the tube
10:46 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG23Mar2018_034513.jpg
10:46 PM rue_shop3: how did that go wrong?
10:46 PM rue_shop3: meh, no matter
10:47 PM Tom_L: i used your numbers i'm pretty sure
10:47 PM rue_shop3: its held by being in a notch at the top
10:47 PM rue_shop3: katsmeow, did you hear about the new toy?
10:47 PM Tom_L: does it need to fit better?
10:48 PM katsmeow: no,, just the spray can holder that doesn;t work right
10:48 PM rue_shop3: raspberry pi camera, push button, image goes directly to my page
10:49 PM katsmeow: you were working onit
10:49 PM rue_shop3: thats it
10:49 PM rue_shop3: I didn't get a bot togethor to paste the link tho
10:49 PM katsmeow: btw, can your google pinger send and recieve data other than ping?
10:49 PM rue_shop3: didn't do it yet
10:50 PM rue_shop3: but the idea is just to know if there is a path to the internet
10:50 PM katsmeow: yeas, i was thinking of another function
10:50 PM rue_shop3: indeed
10:50 PM katsmeow: if done for only one transmission or recieve at a time, you don;t need threading or a tcp-ip stack
10:51 PM katsmeow: i was thinking of a module with some parallel and/or serial way a hoobyist can feed in data, the lan jack, and power
10:52 PM rue_shop3: stm32 is 72Mhz
10:52 PM rue_shop3: not lots of ram tho
10:52 PM Tom_L: rue_shop3, does that part fit on the cans ok?
10:53 PM rue_shop3: new iamge
10:53 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/%7Eircjunk/images/pi/IMG23Mar2018_035225.jpg
10:54 PM katsmeow: sending a pic from a camera , to an ip address, at a decent price, would be amazing
10:54 PM rue_shop3: the pi camera was like $15, the pi is something like $25
10:54 PM rue_shop3: I'm scaling those iamges down a LOT
10:55 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG03Mar2018_223423.jpg
10:55 PM Tom_L: how does it fit on a variety of cans though?
10:55 PM rue_shop3: thats 50% scaled down I think
10:55 PM katsmeow: unable to find a $25 pi in the usa, cheapest with ram and case was like $75
10:55 PM rue_shop3: Tom_L, they only use one type of cam
10:55 PM Tom_L: so that end is ok?
10:55 PM rue_shop3: ram?
10:55 PM rue_shop3: ram is built into pi
10:55 PM rue_shop3: yea
10:55 PM katsmeow: for use as a hdd
10:55 PM rue_shop3: I need to make a new (blue peice) for it
10:55 PM katsmeow: no hdd connectior
10:56 PM rue_shop3: hmm
10:56 PM rue_shop3: I know you can connect more flash to it
10:56 PM rue_shop3: I dont think an ide drive would be a stretch
10:56 PM Tom_L: so it was a 1" tube but what was the wall thickness again?
10:56 PM Tom_L: .065" ?
10:56 PM rue_shop3: might do sata, not sure, does do usb
10:56 PM rue_shop3: the id is
10:57 PM Tom_L: id is 1"?
10:57 PM rue_shop3: 0.873 inches
10:57 PM rue_shop3: id is 0.873inches
11:00 PM Tom_L: cad says .866" here
11:00 PM Tom_L: but the gap is more than that
11:02 PM Tom_L: i bet it's 7/8" ID
11:02 PM Tom_L: which is .875
11:09 PM rue_: ok
11:09 PM rue_: 1" schedule 5
11:10 PM rue_: but everyone will look at you sideways and say "WHAT!?"
11:11 PM rue_: which you prolly dont get too often there
11:13 PM Tom_L: odd
11:13 PM Tom_L: i just drew a .875 arc on the model and it fits it
11:13 PM rue_: hmm
11:13 PM Tom_L: i wonder if the tool is cutting the cusp heigh wrong
11:13 PM rue_: you still have a part?
11:13 PM Tom_L: no
11:13 PM Tom_L: i sent them to you
11:13 PM rue_: thought you kept one!
11:13 PM Tom_L: i only made one
11:14 PM Tom_L: each
11:14 PM Tom_L: does it need to fit better to work?
11:14 PM rue_: might be worth buzzing another off tommorow and measuring it to see if its cutting the way you want
11:14 PM rue_: it'll work
11:14 PM rue_: remember those shoulders lock into slots
11:14 PM rue_: we dont ahve one made right now, I cant show you
11:15 PM Tom_L: what's he think of the part change?
11:16 PM Tom_L: would you say at the bottom where the gap is widest that it's 1/8" gap overall adding both sides?
11:17 PM Tom_L: i got a 7/8" template i can check it with if i make another one
11:18 PM Tom_L: but if it's wrong, i'll probably work on the tool path before i do
11:18 PM rue_: its exciting as it can be not knowing if its in reach
11:18 PM Tom_L: did he think it might fix the breakage problem?
11:18 PM rue_: I need to make that other peice, and I' have EVERYONE IN THE FREAKING WORLD BEGGING ME to do things for them
11:18 PM rue_: yea, liked that
11:19 PM Tom_L: you wanna know a glorious word in the english language?
11:19 PM Tom_L: just say "NO"!
11:21 PM Tom_L: i might have some time next few days to fix it and make a part
11:22 PM rue_: no hurry
11:22 PM Tom_L: i think it's the cusp height of the cutter causing it probably
11:22 PM rue_: were making the intermediate design, it seems to be going ok
11:22 PM Tom_L: you could make these, it would just take a while
11:23 PM rue_: the intermediate takes 11.5 hrs
11:23 PM Tom_L: that's too much
11:23 PM rue_: I'll take a pic
11:24 PM rue_: after supper
11:24 PM Tom_L: i'll be in bed
11:24 PM rue_: it'll be last image in the pi folder
11:25 PM * katsmeow sits on her paws stupidly
11:25 PM rue_: your ass Hz too?
11:26 PM katsmeow: no
11:26 PM rue_: oh
11:26 PM katsmeow: i am physically separate from,. and socially not part f your paint can holder thing
11:27 PM rue_: its ok
11:27 PM rue_: you have a more awesome project, that bender
11:27 PM rue_: hows it going?
11:27 PM rue_: I want to make one tooo
11:29 PM katsmeow: my mind is not on the bender when you have trouble holding a paint can, but i guess i should just get drunk when you two are discussingit
11:36 PM rue_: the paint thing isn't a focus for me latley
11:37 PM rue_: I'm about 10 years behind on the tech I should have developed for myself to become a robot, and I'm getting older and starting to panic
11:37 PM katsmeow: Tom [prolly didn;t need to hear that
11:37 PM rue_: generally, my productivity does down when I panic
11:37 PM rue_: its kind a side project, its helping my buddy make money
11:37 PM rue_: I'm just keeping the tooling happening
11:51 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG23Mar2018_044634.jpg
11:51 PM rue_: 11.5hrs to cut out
11:52 PM rue_: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG23Mar2018_044503.jpg
11:52 PM rue_: kat ^
11:52 PM rue_: my remote
11:52 PM katsmeow: should i look at it too?
11:52 PM rue_: one button tuns on, the other off
11:52 PM katsmeow: remote what?
11:52 PM rue_: IR remote
11:52 PM rue_: just 3d printed it
11:53 PM katsmeow: so to turn you off, just press the button?
11:53 PM rue_: or the room lights
11:53 PM katsmeow: 11.5 hrs? what did you cut with??
11:54 PM rue_: 1mm bit
11:54 PM rue_: and a 12W mtoor
11:55 PM katsmeow: nice remote, i need one with 8 buttons, on/off , up/down , north/south, east/west , for the bridge crane
11:55 PM rue_: I dont have one for you
11:55 PM rue_: but I know exactly what you want
11:55 PM katsmeow: the on/off should be small and recessed, to prevent accidental butt-dialing the winch
11:55 PM rue_: ah, well
11:56 PM katsmeow: i have one, from china, with 6 buttons
11:56 PM katsmeow: i can use it
11:56 PM rue_: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Infrared-Remote-Control-IR-Receiver-Module-DIY-Kit-HX1838-For-Raspberry-Pi/32347151023.html
11:57 PM rue_: wow, they put a lot of junk between me and the login
11:58 PM rue_: I think aliexpress *just* did a major upgrade