#garfield Logs
Mar 04 2018
#garfield Calendar
12:01 AM ^kat^: robot looks pissed : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Zy53fjOuCF4/UXgTRH7MhoI/AAAAAAAAGu8/lSdyTrAkxsk/s640/theincrediblestuffs_warhammercostume.jpg
12:12 AM rue_shop3: heh
12:13 AM rue_shop3: you just want a belt?
12:13 AM ^kat^: if i couldmake the pulleys, then all i need is the belt,,, but atmm i canot make the pulleys
12:14 AM rue_shop3: whats it to drive?
12:14 AM rue_shop3: car?
12:15 AM rue_shop3: 20hp, what ratio of speed/torque
12:15 AM ^kat^: v-twin 20hp gas engine to boat prop
12:15 AM ^kat^: 1:1 is prolly good
12:15 AM ^kat^: 3" - 4" dia pulleys
12:15 AM rue_shop3: engine timing stuff?
12:15 AM rue_shop3: maybe 2 parallel belts?
12:16 AM ^kat^: 3ft between shafts?
12:16 AM rue_shop3: those rubber timing belts can get pretty long
12:16 AM ^kat^: big ass engine :-/
12:16 AM rue_shop3: V
12:16 AM rue_shop3: they do quite a figure 8 around everything
12:17 AM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/pi/IMG04Mar2018_061549.jpg
12:17 AM rue_shop3: printprintprint
12:17 AM ^kat^: you mean the multi-v serpentines?
12:20 AM rue_shop3: not sure, just seen them hanging on the rack at the auto store
12:20 AM rue_shop3: I got one for a conveyor
12:20 AM ^kat^: propblem is all v-belts slip when they get water on them
12:20 AM rue_shop3: erp, no I got something else
12:20 AM rue_shop3: no, timing belts
12:20 AM rue_shop3: for the cams
12:20 AM ^kat^: i dunno
12:20 AM rue_shop3: you know new engines use rubber timing belts
12:20 AM rue_shop3: not chains
12:20 AM ^kat^: 1) those pullesy wold be specific to that engine and that engine alone, ditto the belt length
12:20 AM rue_shop3: I think they combine it with interfearance engines
12:20 AM rue_shop3: I'v not compared the pitch of them
12:21 AM rue_shop3: https://www.amazon.com/4743M15-Ametric%C2%AE-Rubber-Timing-Height/dp/B00HBW5B0O
12:21 AM * rue_shop3 shrugs
12:22 AM rue_shop3: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-continental-parts/timing-belt/038109119m~con/
12:23 AM rue_shop3: https://i1.wp.com/motorposts.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/08-w-leaking-timing-belt-tensioner-67k-miles-how-long-can-i-in-2003-honda-pilot-timing-belt.jpg?fit=709%2C532&ssl=1
12:23 AM rue_shop3: you only want 3', right?
12:23 AM rue_shop3: see, CRAZY
12:23 AM rue_shop3: you can find a scrap engine, I'm sure of it
12:23 AM rue_shop3: "n the internet about 2003 Honda Pilot Timing Belt, choi"
12:24 AM ^kat^: may not find a 2003 Honda Pilot engine tho
12:24 AM ^kat^: and if i want 10 of them it willbe more difficult
12:24 AM rue_shop3: you want a shorter one from what I can see
12:25 AM rue_shop3: the hardest part is getting the guy at the auto store to understand "ITS NOT FOR A CAR"
12:25 AM rue_shop3: been there
12:25 AM ^kat^: i say that and they quit talking tome
12:25 AM rue_shop3: patiently waiting for that "OOOOH!" moment
12:25 AM rue_shop3: hmm
12:26 AM ^kat^: i once tried to buy the belt off their alternator tester, i said i'd buy them the new one if they'd give me the old one, they said no, i'd haveto take the new one, with meant to their surprise, i'd haveto severely use the new one before i could really use it
12:28 AM * rue_shop3 nods
12:28 AM ^kat^: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-continental-parts/timing-belt/038109119m~con/ gives me zero data about the belt
12:28 AM rue_shop3: what does it mean when I think I'v done something before thats not done yet?
12:29 AM rue_shop3: dejavu, but not...
12:29 AM ^kat^: The most important belt on your engine.
12:29 AM rue_shop3: yea
12:29 AM rue_shop3: well, it helps to have an auto parts store thats browsable
12:38 AM ^kat^: item "was shipped" Feb 4 , today tracking reported it is just now recieved by China EMS on Mar 3
12:39 AM rue_shop3: I'm just getting the things I bought in early dec
12:39 AM rue_shop3: canada post :(
12:49 AM ^kat^: what is a FordParts generator, with oem post protectors on it, worth? (yeas, i said generator, not alternator!)
12:50 AM rue_shop3: dont know
12:50 AM rue_shop3: the last one I got was stolen
12:50 AM rue_shop3: :( I didn't finish my windmill
12:51 AM rue_shop3: I wonder how many watts you can get out of a nema17 stepper
12:51 AM ^kat^: get a packman(?) motor from riffraff?
12:51 AM rue_shop3: the voltage is crazy
12:51 AM ^kat^: i've seen like 3 of them here, but they were busted apart as scrap before i got to them :-((
12:53 AM rue_shop3: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26811
12:53 AM rue_shop3: hmm
12:53 AM rue_shop3: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:404771
12:53 AM rue_shop3: hmmmmmmm
12:56 AM ^kat^: "no" on https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26811
12:56 AM ^kat^: "no" on https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:404771
12:57 AM ^kat^: i did rather like the one Riff made, assuming it stayed together when turning
12:57 AM rue_shop3: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:911735
12:57 AM rue_shop3: I'm talking for a nema17 stepper
12:57 AM rue_shop3: generate, 3w?
12:58 AM rue_shop3: the tails seem wrong
12:59 AM ^kat^: plus the cost to build means you will never get more power out to break even on it, and they both look bad
12:59 AM rue_shop3: I need a few w for my yard lights when the suns not happy
12:59 AM rue_shop3: 3w would do fine
12:59 AM ^kat^: goto scrap yard, look for burned out window fans, use the blades off them
01:00 AM rue_shop3: : | or use the blades of one of the 4 in the yard...
01:00 AM ^kat^: or the 10" fans inside window ac units
01:01 AM rue_shop3: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1636095
01:01 AM rue_shop3: 10m/sec...
01:01 AM ^kat^: igrabbed 2 1/4 hp 4600 rpm dc motors and a small 1/8hp(?) 3" blower
01:01 AM rue_shop3: ok, 22 mph
01:01 AM ^kat^: 22mph is awefully fast
01:01 AM rue_shop3: 36km/hr?
01:02 AM rue_shop3: its, brisk
01:02 AM ^kat^: 3mph is normal here, else the trees are being broken up
01:03 AM rue_shop3: our storms hit 50mph
01:03 AM rue_shop3: usually means a power ourage
01:03 AM rue_shop3: outage
01:03 AM ^kat^: see if you canget zhanx to make a puter-controll-ABLE otec system that uses 40F temperature difference, and youc an run it off 90F air temp and 140F flat panel temperature shading the trailer
01:04 AM ^kat^: sent the unit to you, you puterize it
01:05 AM ^kat^: set it up so it operates right even if someone tells it to operate from 40F cold side and 80F hot side, or do it automagically
03:09 AM zhanx: ok i can make that
03:10 AM zhanx: rue_shop3, still on?
03:14 AM rue_shop3: half asleep
03:14 AM rue_shop3: whats up?
03:14 AM rue_shop3: the pi camera thing?
02:52 PM Tom_L: rue_shop3, printer looks good
02:53 PM Tom_L: what kind is that?
07:05 PM rue_shop3: i2
07:05 PM rue_shop3: prusa mendel i2
07:17 PM Tom_L: is that what all yours are based on?
10:14 PM rue_shop3: yea
10:15 PM rue_shop3: the i3 reuqires a bunch of non-printable frame parts
10:15 PM rue_shop3: I dont think the i2 design was taken as far as it can go
10:15 PM rue_shop3: tho I'm still working on getting it the way I like it
10:30 PM Tom_L: downloaded Fusion 360 to look at
10:30 PM Tom_L: full cad cam with post for linuxcnc free for hobbyists
10:30 PM Tom_L: mainly to help somebody else
10:51 PM rue_shop3: fusion 360 runs on linux now?
10:55 PM rue_shop3: for a year
10:55 PM rue_shop3: I can use what I have forever tho