#garfield Logs
Feb 15 2018
#garfield Calendar
04:52 PM * Tom_L waits for rue_shop3 to print and verify before putting tool to the metal
07:39 PM rue_shop3: the fellow building them was by, I think he forgot the air, broke a bit
07:39 PM Tom_L: take it out of his pay
07:40 PM Tom_L: do you use HSS or carbide?
07:48 PM rue_shop3: I think they are all chinese carbide bits
07:48 PM rue_shop3: I dont tknow what we paitd for them
07:48 PM rue_shop3: nee dto chaeck
07:48 PM rue_shop3: i think $4 ea
07:49 PM Tom_L: i could send you a couple
07:49 PM Tom_L: from my guy
07:49 PM Tom_L: not sure what they cost
07:49 PM Tom_L: probably around 6-8
07:49 PM Tom_L: some of them have a high helix which i'm saving
07:50 PM Tom_L: the ones i'm using are just regular 2 flute
07:50 PM Tom_L: i forgot i even had the ballnose until i started digging
07:51 PM Tom_L: oh.. i _was_ running the 1/8 flat cutter at .001 chip load
07:51 PM Tom_L: so i bumped up the rpm a little in the tool file
07:52 PM Tom_L: 4k and 8 ipm
07:52 PM Tom_L: .001 ipt
07:52 PM Tom_L: plunge is half that
07:53 PM rue_shop3: no I odrered soem from china they jsut haven't arrived yet
07:53 PM rue_shop3: been 3 months
07:53 PM rue_shop3: if we have to stop the so be it
07:53 PM Tom_L: ballmill is 4k rpm and 7 ipm
07:54 PM Tom_L: once you ok that print i'll make one here
07:54 PM Tom_L: for my vise
07:56 PM Tom_L: what sort of finish do you get with your mill?
07:57 PM Tom_L: those look pretty good looking at those pics
07:58 PM rue_shop3: hold on I need to get my hea d togehter
07:58 PM Tom_L: your slot is off center
07:58 PM rue_shop3: yes, hand aligned
07:59 PM Tom_L: what size holes are in the trigger?
08:02 PM rue_shop3: hmm, the number size thats a bit larger than 1/4" and 1/16"
08:02 PM Tom_L: both number bits?
08:02 PM rue_shop3: nope
08:02 PM rue_shop3: the small hole is 1/16"
08:02 PM Tom_L: k
08:02 PM rue_shop3: I think
08:02 PM rue_shop3: let me get the plans bacbke out afgian
08:03 PM rue_shop3: big hole 6.5mm (1/4" + clearance)
08:03 PM rue_shop3: we dont drill the small hole...
08:04 PM rue_shop3: #52 for the small hole
08:04 PM Tom_L: the next size up from 1/4 is a letter E bit
08:04 PM rue_shop3: ok, we use 6.5mm
08:04 PM rue_shop3: arg, I'm all frustrated
08:04 PM Tom_L: i should let you drill those
08:04 PM Tom_L: i don't have many metric bits
08:05 PM rue_shop3: he keep strying to squeesze too msay parst into the material and dosn't support them properly
08:05 PM rue_shop3: I have a basic imperial, metric, and number set
08:05 PM rue_shop3: I got a few metric bits not a multiple of 0.5mm
08:06 PM Tom_L: i have a full set of inch, letter, number, fraction
08:06 PM Tom_L: but not many metric
08:06 PM Tom_L: it would be better to drill the small one before slotting it
08:06 PM rue_shop3: one of the robotics kids was in france and picked me up a basic set at a corner store
08:06 PM Tom_L: the bit will wander if it's halfway thru the slot
08:07 PM rue_shop3: yea, you have to drill before you slot
08:07 PM Tom_L: the larger hole would be ok
08:07 PM rue_shop3: wait, there is no slot in the trigger
08:07 PM rue_shop3: just the patch
08:08 PM Tom_L: whatever that part is we made the fixture for
08:08 PM Tom_L: A12
08:08 PM rue_shop3: I dont ahve all the part numbers memoryized giki go by name
08:08 PM rue_shop3: :)
08:08 PM Tom_L: just goin off the print as one should
08:09 PM rue_shop3: arg, it bothers me a bit borke crom something silly, on a part that dosn't matter
08:09 PM rue_shop3: and the cats are btoehring me for othgnisn
08:09 PM Tom_L: i snapped a brand new 3/16
08:09 PM Tom_L: but i can save it
08:09 PM rue_shop3: I know you paid more, I'm just frustrated
08:09 PM rue_shop3: but you can go tot het corner sore and get a new one
08:09 PM Tom_L: it broke halfway up the shank
08:09 PM rue_shop3: I ahve to wait 7 mo to get them crom china
08:10 PM Tom_L: in fact i did save it
08:10 PM rue_shop3: I can buy the last bit fro mteh hardware sotre , they want $45 for it
08:10 PM rue_shop3: 1/8" carbide
08:10 PM Tom_L: i can send you some
08:10 PM rue_shop3: you had a thing I need to print
08:10 PM Tom_L: yeah, i'm waiting for it
08:10 PM Tom_L: oh and the handle dxf
08:11 PM rue_shop3: ???
08:11 PM rue_shop3: there is no dxf for the handle
08:11 PM Tom_L: you said it was on your laptop in the shop
08:11 PM rue_shop3: solid wrosks
08:11 PM Tom_L: oh sw file
08:12 PM rue_shop3: ok just wait I'm trying t get a frustrating day outa my head
08:12 PM Tom_L: yeah we both had one of those
08:16 PM rue_shop3: ordered a fire alarm system for a job, they didn't ship the fire bells
08:16 PM rue_shop3: took them 3 months to send the bells
08:16 PM rue_shop3: just got them today
08:17 PM Tom_L: i wonder if this part is scaled wrong
08:18 PM Tom_L: the one you made the print for
08:19 PM Tom_L: what's it measure across the fat head diameter?
08:19 PM rue_shop3: hu?
08:19 PM Tom_L: i get about .347"
08:19 PM Tom_L: the part you made the print jig for
08:19 PM rue_shop3: the stl is imperial, comes out 2mmx1/4mmxwhatever
08:19 PM rue_shop3: scaled it 2540%
08:20 PM Tom_L: i'm measuring the part i cut
08:20 PM Tom_L: it's about 1.372" long
08:20 PM Tom_L: is that right?
08:20 PM Tom_L: cause if you drill a 1/4" hole in it there won't be much left
08:21 PM rue_shop3: yes thats rightt
08:21 PM Tom_L: but i can see that's not a 1/4" hole in the pic
08:21 PM rue_shop3: depends if its the trigger or latch your talking about
08:21 PM rue_shop3: the holes for the latch are
08:21 PM Tom_L: the one that fits the jig
08:21 PM rue_shop3: past my scroll buffer
08:22 PM Tom_L: so you're calling A12 a latch
08:22 PM rue_shop3: its a latch yea
08:22 PM rue_shop3: 05:51 PM rue_shop3: ----> large hole is #43 small hole is 1/16"
08:22 PM rue_shop3: 05:52 PM rue_shop3: ok there are two obvious strikes thru it, they are the profile of the cut, the take-out angle of it isn't that important
08:22 PM rue_shop3: 05:53 PM rue_shop3: ----> its 1.373" long
08:23 PM rue_shop3: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23garfield/2018-02-12.html
08:23 PM Tom_L: so we're real close on dimensions
08:23 PM Tom_L: now, what's the drill sizes for that part?
08:23 PM rue_shop3: rue_shop3> 05:51 PM rue_shop3: ----> large hole is #43 small hole is 1/16"
08:24 PM rue_shop3: your just trying to drive me insane aren't ya?
08:24 PM Tom_L: so #43 is .089
08:24 PM Tom_L: that's better
08:25 PM Tom_L: no just gettin the fax straight
08:25 PM Tom_L: so what were the other drills for?
08:25 PM Tom_L: the 6.5mm and #52
08:27 PM Tom_L: oh A12 and A3 look alot alike
08:27 PM Tom_L: i don't have A3 dxf
08:36 PM rue_shop3: you said trigger
08:36 PM Tom_L: i made a file with the A numbers and part names beside them now
08:37 PM Tom_L: so the 6.5 is for the trigger?
08:38 PM Tom_L: so
08:39 PM Tom_L: could you send me A2 and A3 dxf? (handle & trigger)
08:39 PM rue_shop3: no
08:39 PM rue_shop3: oh its the kid
08:39 PM Tom_L: could you send me A2 and A3 sw file? (handle & trigger)
08:40 PM rue_shop3: y
08:44 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/%7Eircjunk/not_public_dont_open/tom/Triggerv2b.SLDPRT
08:44 PM rue_shop3: try that
08:46 PM Tom_L: i'll have to reboot to try it
08:46 PM Tom_L: gotta get the kid from work first
08:47 PM rue_shop3: tutoring kid over phone on 3d modelsing
08:48 PM Tom_L: haha good luck
08:48 PM rue_shop3: i would be good to seeee what hes doing
08:49 PM Tom_L: i hate it when they do 3 steps before you finish telling em
08:50 PM Tom_L: yeah it opened
08:50 PM Tom_L: would be nice if it didn't have the radius'd edges
08:51 PM Tom_L: i can still get it though
08:51 PM Tom_L: bbiab
08:52 PM Tom_L: got it in catia now too
08:52 PM Tom_L: now the handle?
08:54 PM rue_shop3: heh
08:55 PM rue_shop3: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/tom/handlev5.SLDPRT
08:59 PM rue_shop3: ok kids finished
08:59 PM rue_shop3: can you open that handle?
08:59 PM rue_shop3: what do you get, the whole part definition?
09:01 PM rue_shop3: softjaw is printing
09:10 PM Tom_L: ok, back
09:10 PM rue_: well?
09:10 PM Tom_L: just sat down, gimme a sec!!
09:10 PM rue_: tommorow! tommorow!
09:10 PM rue_: I mean
09:10 PM rue_: yesterday yesterday!
09:11 PM rue_: what does it give ya?
09:11 PM rue_: the model with the shapes and junk?
09:11 PM Tom_L: gotta get on the right drive here first
09:12 PM rue_: so
09:12 PM Tom_L: it opens fine
09:12 PM rue_: if I get tired at the same time nomatter what
09:13 PM rue_: and I'm always just as sacked when I wake up
09:13 PM rue_: why not just wake up 2 hours after I got to sleep all the time?
09:13 PM Tom_L: you don't cut that slot thru it do you?
09:13 PM rue_: no, its printed silly
09:13 PM rue_: hah
09:13 PM rue_: cnc that!
09:13 PM Tom_L: oh i thought it was aluminum
09:13 PM Tom_L: i'll print you one from titanium so there
09:13 PM rue_: no, the trigger, the handle and the head assembly are 3d printed
09:14 PM rue_: haha, I asked for that
09:14 PM rue_: yea, the head and the handle both have that slot
09:15 PM Tom_L: that's different from the hand pecked version in your pdf
09:15 PM rue_: if your looking at the pdf, its A2 and A7 that have that slot, the trigger is A3
09:15 PM Tom_L: right
09:15 PM rue_: yea, my drawing sucks
09:15 PM Tom_L: i don't have A7
09:16 PM rue_: wanted to make it a nice 3d exploded diagram, but couldn't find anyting to render it like a drawing
09:16 PM rue_: is there any point to me fishing out A7?
09:16 PM Tom_L: if all the parts fit send em to me and i'll do a catia exploded view
09:16 PM rue_: I shoudl send ya the 3 printed parts so you can make one up
09:16 PM Tom_L: naw
09:17 PM rue_: nothing else is modeled
09:17 PM Tom_L: so i have all the aluminum parts?
09:17 PM rue_: well, A7 is, I can post it when I'm back at the shop if you really want
09:17 PM rue_: well the tub A5, is alum, but its routed and shaped
09:17 PM Tom_L: so A2 is printed
09:17 PM rue_: yes
09:17 PM rue_: thats the handle
09:18 PM rue_: the origional guy did it in 3 layers of routed plastic and pinned them togethor
09:18 PM rue_: but it was hdpe, how the hell he glued it is beyond me
09:18 PM Tom_L: A12 & A3 are aluminum?
09:18 PM rue_: A3 is printed
09:19 PM rue_: but that might not work out, they have been breaking for some people
09:19 PM rue_: the PLA fractures
09:19 PM Tom_L: i'll do up an aluminum one then
09:19 PM rue_: it can take like 40lbs force
09:19 PM rue_: or like 2lbs force 500x
09:19 PM rue_: thats what I was cutting on the weekend
09:19 PM rue_: I have a flat pdf
09:20 PM Tom_L: A3 aluminum ones?
09:20 PM rue_: yea
09:20 PM rue_: thats what he broke the bit on
09:20 PM rue_: which is what chaffs me, its not a part were using
09:20 PM Tom_L: how thick is it?
09:20 PM rue_: I made some as a backup incase some people say their fed up with the new beefier plastic ones
09:20 PM rue_: 1/4"
09:21 PM Tom_L: i'll program it then
09:21 PM rue_: ---------------------------------------> the trigger is 1/4" thick
09:21 PM rue_: do you want to do what you can with that 3d file?
09:21 PM rue_: its more accurate than the pdf I ahve
09:21 PM rue_: er, dxf
09:22 PM Tom_L: yes
09:23 PM Tom_L: i also need the drill sizes for A9 & A10 (can holder)
09:23 PM rue_: aaagain?/....
09:23 PM Tom_L: y sure
09:24 PM rue_: I wont find them in the scrollback
09:24 PM Tom_L: i'm writin it down this time
09:24 PM rue_: uhu
09:24 PM rue_: I'll dig it outa the book when I'm back in the shop
09:24 PM rue_: its printing the softjaw, I'm waiting for that
09:24 PM rue_: tea...
09:26 PM Tom_L: need pics and eco writeoff for that tonight
09:26 PM Tom_L: signed by the head design engineer
09:26 PM Tom_L: or headless one either one
09:27 PM rue_: heh
09:27 PM rue_: well I have to take the heat gun to it for fine shaping, not enough polygons on the curve
09:27 PM rue_: but I'll check the distances
09:28 PM rue_: there must be a poly resolution setting in that program
09:28 PM Tom_L: yeah i don't mess with stl export that much
09:29 PM Tom_L: it doesn't give me any options
09:33 PM rue_: Tools> Options> General> Display> Performance and then adjust the 3D accuracy of the object. The lower the number, the better the accuracy of the printed part. 0.01 is the lowest setting available.
09:33 PM Tom_L: i used catia for that
09:34 PM rue_: If you go to Tools/Options/General/Display and select the Performance tab, you can change what your visulizaion accuracy is. The better your 3D accuracy, the finer a mesh you will create.
09:34 PM rue_: How I can setup my catia v5 to have a finer resolution for STL files?
09:34 PM rue_: http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=36687
09:35 PM rue_: http://www.coe.org/p/fo/et/thread=3630
09:35 PM rue_: Now you KnOw
09:36 PM rue_: catia must use the general render system to build the stl data, so the low res render they do comes out inadvertantly as a lumpy stl
09:36 PM Tom_L: i'm sure i'll rememeber that
09:36 PM rue_: is ok, I have a heat gun
09:37 PM Tom_L: it was set for like .2
09:37 PM rue_: dunno howmuch a setting of like .05 kills your viewing framerate
09:37 PM Tom_L: it was set for .22
09:37 PM Tom_L: is that good or bad?
09:38 PM rue_: thats bad
09:38 PM Tom_L: is 1.0 better?
09:38 PM rue_: they say like 0.01
09:38 PM Tom_L: oh so go the other way..
09:38 PM rue_: Tools> Options> General> Display> Performance and then adjust the 3D accuracy of the object. The lower the number, the better the accuracy of the printed part. 0.01 is the lowest setting available.
09:38 PM Tom_L: oh that's pretty
09:39 PM rue_: :) is it slow tho
09:39 PM Tom_L: no
09:39 PM Tom_L: i'll give you a new file to open
09:39 PM rue_: a bad side effect might be a 435484MB stl file
09:39 PM Tom_L: that's your problem :)
09:39 PM rue_: play the tradeoff
09:39 PM rue_: ahhaha
09:40 PM rue_: what I gonna have for supper?
09:40 PM Tom_L: 107k
09:40 PM rue_: rice? spagetti? cat? perogies?
09:40 PM rue_: smaller than alot of my stl files
09:40 PM Tom_L: it's up there if you want it
09:40 PM Tom_L: xxxxx_big.stl
09:41 PM * rue_ tries to find there
09:41 PM Tom_L: it's not the short one though
09:41 PM Tom_L: you want a short one lemme redo it
09:41 PM rue_: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/Extra/
09:42 PM rue_: ah
09:42 PM Tom_L: xxxxx_short.stl
09:43 PM Tom_L: 1.25" tall
09:43 PM Tom_L: instead of 2"
09:44 PM rue_: thats better
09:44 PM Tom_L: i deleted the others up there
09:52 PM rue_shop3: last layer I think
09:52 PM Tom_L: measure the slot depth on the radius end. i need to make sure i changed it here
09:53 PM Tom_L: i got .4902"
09:54 PM Tom_L: i can export it again from catia if i have to
09:56 PM rue_shop3: left is good
09:56 PM rue_shop3: the right pocket is a hair high linearly
09:57 PM Tom_L: needs to go back down a little?
09:57 PM rue_shop3: its like .05" shall I measure for the hell of it?
09:57 PM rue_shop3: not rotated, just straight down
09:57 PM Tom_L: oh
09:57 PM rue_shop3: wait, show me an image, I dont know I had to flip it
09:57 PM rue_shop3: z*=(-1);
09:59 PM Tom_L: so the long slot is too deep?
09:59 PM Tom_L: so move the model down in the fixture
10:00 PM rue_shop3: hah
10:00 PM rue_shop3: the shallow slot is up like .05" too far
10:00 PM rue_shop3: aka, the long slot is .05" too shallow
10:01 PM Tom_L: so raise it up in the fixture
10:01 PM Tom_L: so the millcutter cuts it deeper?
10:01 PM rue_shop3: lower the pocket
10:01 PM rue_shop3: cut the peice shallower
10:02 PM Tom_L: ok
10:02 PM rue_shop3: if you do that, is the slot going about 1/2 way thru the hole?
10:02 PM rue_shop3: the small hole?
10:03 PM Tom_L: i don't have the holes in this model as a reference
10:03 PM rue_shop3: ok
10:03 PM rue_shop3: .05"
10:03 PM rue_shop3: its just a bit
10:05 PM Tom_L: ok i'll save the stl and let you look at it
10:07 PM rue_shop3: logic
10:07 PM Tom_L: it's xxxx_short.stl
10:07 PM rue_shop3: if I can do 0.2mm @ 80mm/min
10:07 PM rue_shop3: I should be able to do 0.4mm @ 40mm/min
10:07 PM Tom_L: same filename
10:07 PM Tom_L: but .050 lower
10:07 PM rue_shop3: so 0.8 @ 20
10:08 PM rue_shop3: 1.6 @ 10
10:08 PM rue_shop3: ? right?
10:08 PM rue_shop3: same factor
10:08 PM rue_shop3: load factor
10:08 PM Tom_L: should be
10:08 PM Tom_L: just as long as you keep the chip load the same
10:08 PM rue_shop3: wouldn't those all have the same chip load?
10:09 PM Tom_L: the times you vary stuff like that is if you get alot of chatter or ringing at a certain rpm
10:09 PM rue_shop3: er, thats inches/rev
10:09 PM rue_shop3: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/Extra/
10:10 PM Tom_L: should be 1 .stl there now
10:11 PM rue_shop3: the printer is busy, we have to try tommorow
10:11 PM rue_shop3: I'm sure that'll be it
10:13 PM rue_shop3: at a glance that looks good
10:13 PM Tom_L: ok
10:13 PM Tom_L: i'll still wait for you to print it before i mill one
10:13 PM rue_shop3: k
10:14 PM rue_shop3: I have a set of 3d printer parts giong
10:14 PM Tom_L: soon as you can so i can mill tomorrow eve
10:14 PM Tom_L: np
10:14 PM Tom_L: you said a 1/8" part fits in the slot?
10:14 PM rue_shop3: A9
10:15 PM rue_shop3: thats why it has to be 1/8
10:15 PM Tom_L: what part of A9 fitsin that?
10:15 PM rue_shop3: and the slot needs to be 1/8"+
10:15 PM Tom_L: i know about clearance
10:15 PM rue_shop3: http://www.ruemohr.org/p1090695.jpg
10:16 PM Tom_L: oh that's right
10:16 PM Tom_L: i still need hole sizes for a few things too
10:16 PM rue_shop3: oh right
10:16 PM * rue_shop3 gets the book again
10:16 PM rue_shop3: holes for the chain link
10:17 PM rue_shop3: -----------------------------------> chain link holes are #28
10:17 PM rue_shop3: ------------------------------> spring hole is 1/16"
10:17 PM rue_shop3: --------------------------------> latch hole is 3/32 (we use 3/32 brazing rod, peened over as a rivet)
10:18 PM Tom_L: i got the latch hole at #43 adn 1/16"
10:19 PM Tom_L: so the other two are for A9 & A10
10:19 PM rue_shop3: yes, clearance
10:19 PM rue_shop3: #43 is clearance for the 3/32 pin
10:19 PM Tom_L: i need for A8
10:19 PM rue_shop3: I need my pdf...
10:19 PM rue_shop3: back to the project box...
10:20 PM Tom_L: spray lever
10:20 PM rue_shop3: ok
10:20 PM Tom_L: and A3 trigger
10:21 PM rue_shop3: --------------------------------------> spray lever - large hole is 6.5mm (1/4" with clearance)
10:21 PM rue_shop3: ---------------------------------------> spray lever - small hole is #52 (1/16 link wire with clearance)
10:22 PM rue_shop3: -------------------------------> trigger, large hole is 6.5mm (1/4" with clearance)
10:22 PM Tom_L: both the same
10:22 PM rue_shop3: ----------------------------> trigger, small hole is #52, (1/16" link wire with clearance)
10:23 PM Tom_L: letter E would probably work for 1/4" clearance hole
10:25 PM rue_shop3: he sent me word docs again, keep telling him I cant open those
10:26 PM Tom_L: send it and i'll pdf it
10:26 PM rue_shop3: its ok, I'll get it thru to him, send at rtf
10:27 PM Tom_L: so i'm waiting for you to verify 2 things
10:27 PM Tom_L: the print
10:27 PM Tom_L: and the A9 in the mail
10:27 PM rue_shop3: ok
10:27 PM rue_shop3: nothing in the mail today
10:27 PM rue_shop3: waiting on 55 china packages
10:27 PM Tom_L: it will be late next week at least i bet
10:28 PM Tom_L: the last one i did was sexy
10:28 PM rue_shop3: all 55 packages?
10:28 PM rue_shop3: :)
10:29 PM rue_shop3: I should get every 5th package with tracking
10:29 PM rue_shop3: THO canada post will not track china packages
10:29 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/Extra/A9_can_grip.jpg
10:29 PM rue_shop3: they lose too many of them
10:29 PM rue_shop3: that looks good
10:29 PM rue_shop3: I talked with him about the thickness of the thin part at the can
10:29 PM rue_shop3: he swears 1mm min.
10:30 PM rue_shop3: didn't ask about a max
10:30 PM Tom_L: i think it was about .039 or thereabouts
10:30 PM rue_shop3: any thinner than 1mm, and the can spins in the holder
10:30 PM rue_shop3: .99, you might be ok
10:30 PM Tom_L: but you're working with a tapered edge too
10:30 PM Tom_L: mine is flat
10:31 PM rue_shop3: mines pretty flat
10:31 PM rue_shop3: I should take a pic of the bit
10:31 PM rue_shop3: I worked hard on it
10:31 PM Tom_L: hah
10:31 PM rue_shop3: 1/8" with a guide pin thats a bit smaller than 1/16"
10:32 PM Tom_L: the ballnose stepover is about right i think
10:32 PM rue_shop3: it looks great
10:33 PM Tom_L: i could go further down in the front but i don't wanna get into the 1/8" part of it
10:33 PM rue_shop3: oh, haha
10:33 PM rue_shop3: I didn't think of this
10:34 PM rue_shop3: when we redesigned it, it technically went from A9 to C9, I have an intermediate B9
10:34 PM rue_shop3: technically, your parts is C9
10:34 PM Tom_L: T9
10:34 PM rue_shop3: the number is the part, the letter is the rev
10:34 PM rue_shop3: major rev
10:34 PM Tom_L: i thought you had a C series of gun
10:34 PM rue_shop3: no
10:34 PM Tom_L: this is the A series
10:35 PM rue_shop3: there are some B parts,
10:35 PM rue_shop3: alternate triggers and a lot of the 3" model
10:35 PM Tom_L: i need another ECO for that to take place
10:36 PM rue_shop3: heh :)
10:36 PM rue_shop3: still a prototype!
10:36 PM Tom_L: the 1/8 part may be a little thicker, i'm not sure
10:37 PM * Tom_L gives rue_shop3 a file
10:37 PM rue_shop3: another file...
10:37 PM rue_shop3: save as...
10:37 PM rue_shop3: I think the fellow building these will be excited
10:37 PM rue_shop3: I am
10:39 PM rue_shop3: did I show you the proto here I messed up?
10:39 PM rue_shop3: B9?
10:39 PM Tom_L: no
10:39 PM rue_shop3: I have to sit down and solder fill the shoulder a little
10:49 PM Tom_L: ok i pulled that fixture into my cad and i'll work on it tomorrow
10:49 PM Tom_L: for A12