#garfield Logs

Feb 27 2017

12:00 AM * rue_house shrugs
12:02 AM jym: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_with_DOS
08:34 AM jym: Tom_L: DOS VM (per those instructions) https://mega.nz/#!nwMFFArC!mzBU0H0n9x68EcLGNAhwo7PSalhFo1Q8sY_LgiVsZiY (3.6MB)
04:06 PM jym: rue_bed2: Ok, in THIS one it looks like my speculation was right, the intake is proportional to the size of the outter envelope... almost 3:1 http://www.instructables.com/id/Rocket-Stove-Mass-Heater/?ALLSTEPS
04:28 PM Tom_L: wrong language
05:58 PM Tom_L: wtf is extend error 65
05:58 PM Tom_L: can't make any directories
05:59 PM Tom_L: drive letter is R:
06:04 PM Tom_L: not much good if i can't use it
06:04 PM Tom_L: can't map physical drives
06:04 PM Tom_L: can't access shared folders
06:36 PM Tom_L: can't get ms client files, server offline
06:46 PM Tom_L: no NT4 server CD to pull them from either
06:48 PM Tom_L: found ISO
06:49 PM Tom_L: what a cluster fack
07:06 PM Tom_L: only way to get them in is with a disk image file
07:06 PM Tom_L: to be able to set up file sharing
07:26 PM zhanx: Tom is not having fun
07:33 PM rue_house: huh
07:33 PM rue_house: Tom_L, pnp + dos sucks
07:33 PM rue_house: for a non-pnp bios
07:34 PM rue_house: I have a bail of alfalfa I have to get out of the truck
07:34 PM * rue_house stretches
07:34 PM * Tom_L blames jym
07:34 PM rue_house: 8-|
07:34 PM Tom_L: you got a whole bale?
07:35 PM rue_house: Tom_L, the idea was legit, the implementation seems overly painfull
07:35 PM rue_house: well yea
07:35 PM Tom_L: after you feed the potatoes i suppose you can sit on the rest of it as a bench
07:35 PM rue_house: hah, its compost
07:35 PM rue_house: helps the soil a lot
07:35 PM Tom_L: yeah
07:36 PM rue_house: its the 85lbs thats puts me off
07:36 PM Tom_L: nothing that sounds 'simple' ever is.
07:36 PM Tom_L: but i don't have the card yet so...
07:36 PM * rue_house stares at toms vm
07:36 PM Tom_L: can't get any files to and from it without msclient installed
07:36 PM Tom_L: can't get msclient installed
07:37 PM Tom_L: finally found it
07:37 PM Tom_L: ms ftp is awol
07:37 PM rue_house: well, sometimes hardware access from a vm is a pain in the ass too
07:37 PM Tom_L: yeah, it doesn't even list parallel ports
07:37 PM Tom_L: it lists com ports
07:37 PM Tom_L: i don't need no stinkin com ports
07:38 PM rue_house: I'm gonna get on that bail before light falls
07:38 PM Tom_L: it's not falling
07:38 PM Tom_L: you're just not keeping up with it
07:39 PM Tom_L: the box for this mb should be here tomorrow then at least i can get it off the top of my printer
07:40 PM Tom_L: gotta love pico psu for testing :D
07:41 PM Tom_L: instead of some big ass psu hanging off the desk
09:24 PM jym: Tom_L: Did you do this? 2017-02-26.21:33:34 jym: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Sharing_files_with_DOS
09:36 PM Tom_L: been at it all evening yes
09:37 PM Tom_L: little on that page is as i have it
09:37 PM Tom_L: the msclient files are a dead link
09:37 PM Tom_L: found an iso and pulled the files from it
09:37 PM Tom_L: made a img file from that for each one
09:37 PM Tom_L: tried to mount them
09:37 PM Tom_L: no mount on the menu like it says there is
09:37 PM Tom_L: i could go on...
09:38 PM Tom_L: i gave up
09:38 PM Tom_L: oh and there is no mention of parallel ports anywhere. i can share com ports but apparently not parallel
09:38 PM Tom_L: which is the whole purpose of this silly exercise
09:40 PM Tom_L: can't share the files until the client is installe
09:40 PM Tom_L: d
09:40 PM Tom_L: can't install the client because i can't mount the img files
09:40 PM Tom_L: can't mount the iso in the oracle directory either for guest stuff
09:41 PM Tom_L: C:/program files/oracle/something or other
09:43 PM Tom_L: the button at the bottom of the drives folder is supposed to do that but it does nothing
09:44 PM Tom_L: another page i found linking to that page said it was quite incomplete
09:45 PM Tom_L: the help file that came with the installed version said to do similar which also didn't work
09:46 PM Tom_L: apparently ms ftp site has been down for several years
10:05 PM jym: I have NT4 cd
10:06 PM Tom_L: so do i
10:06 PM Tom_L: i don't have NT server
10:06 PM Tom_L: i have nt4 server iso now though
10:06 PM Tom_L: with a key
10:07 PM jym: you just need to grab the client images form it
10:07 PM Tom_L: been at that all evening
10:07 PM Tom_L: have the 2 img files
10:08 PM Tom_L: don't work on the virtual box
10:08 PM Tom_L: can't mount them
10:08 PM Tom_L: can't install them
10:08 PM Tom_L: can't mount the guest iso they talk about in the C:/program files/oracle directory either
10:08 PM Tom_L: supposed to be an alternate way to do it i guess
10:11 PM Tom_L: this isn't a 30 min done deal as advertised
10:13 PM jym: depends on what planet your on
10:13 PM Tom_L: i had a dos vm sure but nothing useful
10:14 PM Tom_L: did you share host files?
10:14 PM Tom_L: did you map any folders?
10:15 PM Tom_L: to do that you need msclient
10:15 PM jym: The last tie I used the dos net client was long ago, it dod work, but I was on bare metal
10:18 PM Tom_L: i serously doubt it would work anyway since they don't show parallel ports as a shared resource
10:20 PM jym: Yeah, I wasn't aware that they didn't create a guest additions for dos
10:22 PM Tom_L: it's in the oracle directory as an iso but i can't get to it
10:24 PM Tom_L: i can mount it but it's supposed to auto run and doesn't
10:24 PM Tom_L: and i don't know how to enable that or make it run manually
10:25 PM jym: look for the EXE or COM file
10:25 PM Tom_L: it's an .iso
10:26 PM jym: are you just trying to grba files from the iso?
10:26 PM Tom_L: no
10:26 PM Tom_L: i was trying to get it to run as advertised
10:26 PM jym: get what to run?
10:26 PM Tom_L: on another oracle site i saw
10:26 PM jym: an iso?
10:26 PM Tom_L: the guest xxxxx iso
10:27 PM Tom_L: i put it up for tonight
10:27 PM Tom_L: been debugging the mb on the desk all scattered out
10:27 PM Tom_L: ssd, dvd, mb, wires everywhere...
10:29 PM Tom_L: i can get files out of an iso easy
10:29 PM Tom_L: if need be
10:30 PM jym: you can mount an iso to any VM
10:30 PM jym: vbox emulates ISO's like physical cd's
10:30 PM Tom_L: i pulled the msclient disk1 disk2 from the ntserver iso and made img files from each
10:31 PM Tom_L: i can't mount the iso, i tried
10:31 PM jym: url?
10:31 PM Tom_L: it shows up in the menu but does nothing
10:31 PM Tom_L: url for what?
10:31 PM jym: the iso
10:31 PM Tom_L: which one?
10:31 PM jym: really?
10:31 PM Tom_L: nt?
10:31 PM Tom_L: or the guest one
10:31 PM jym: whatever oracle thing you cant get files out of
10:32 PM Tom_L: i don't have a link for it, it's installed with the oracle server
10:32 PM Tom_L: it's in the program files oracle directory
10:32 PM Tom_L: can't get that for you right now, the mb is in a box
10:32 PM Tom_L: if you installed it, it's there
10:33 PM jym: I serious doubt I'll ever install oracle server in my lifetime
10:33 PM Tom_L: i could install it on my other pc but i didn't want to
10:34 PM Tom_L: the vm box stuff
10:34 PM Tom_L: this is worse than a novell netware install....
10:34 PM Tom_L: seriously
10:35 PM Tom_L: i also installed their extension pack
10:35 PM Tom_L: have no idea what that got me but i installed it
10:35 PM jym: ext pack is nice thing to have
10:41 PM Tom_L: C:\program files\VirtualBox\Guestadditions.iso i think
10:41 PM Tom_L: it must be added with the extension pack because it's not on this install i just did
10:48 PM Tom_L: i can't find where to add it in now either
10:52 PM Tom_L: preferences->extensions
10:54 PM Tom_L: no that wasn't it either
10:55 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure where i got that iso from but that's where it ended up
11:03 PM jym: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc750214.aspx
11:04 PM jym: https://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windowsnt/4/server/reskit/en-us/net/net4dos.mspx?mfr=true
11:06 PM Tom_itx: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows
11:06 PM jym: http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html#msclient
11:08 PM Tom_L: ^^ that link i posted, the insert guest additions cd image does nothing
11:08 PM jym: in which VM?
11:08 PM Tom_L: dos
11:09 PM jym: either look for a new directory or you have to install the cdrom drivers for dos
11:10 PM jym: if you have an NT4 box... https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc750214.aspx
11:10 PM Tom_L: i can see it in the cd list
11:11 PM Tom_L: i just can't get to it
11:11 PM jym: 2017-02-27.20:39:45 jym: either look for a new directory or you have to install the cdrom drivers for dos
11:12 PM Tom_L: i'm goin to bed. i've had enough of this sh..