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[00:09:10] <rue_shop3> that rauses an alam bell
[00:09:12] <rue_shop3> not sure why
[00:09:17] <rue_shop3> isn't it vapourware?
[00:09:48] <rue_shop3> well, thats a new trick, used the drill chuck in the lathe to spin down a 1/4" peice of copper pipe to 1/8"
[00:29:18] <rue_shop3> hahahahahaha
[00:29:51] <rue_shop3> f**ing grbl controller, I pressed stop to see if it would EVER stop, and the F****ing thing did, but provided no resume button
[00:29:53] <rue_shop3> F***
[00:30:03] <rue_shop3> I have air on it now kat
[00:30:13] <rue_shop3> but the compressor cant keep up with even a little air flow
[00:30:44] <rue_shop3> grbl has no speed control
[00:30:52] <rue_shop3> grbl does not stop when you press stop
[00:31:03] <rue_shop3> grbl (controller) does not resume if stopped
[00:31:05] <rue_shop3> damnit
[00:31:16] <rue_shop3> THIS is why I say I want to write my own software
[00:50:08] <rue_shop3> noooo speed control
[01:40:13] <rue_shop3> ok I got... really alone at some point...
[01:40:21] <rue_shop3> just rue and me
[01:40:42] <rue_shop3> its gonna rue in me
[07:21:31] <Tom_L> rue_shop3, why do you have to learn the hard way? use linuxcnc
[07:23:45] <Tom_L> it's actively developed with a large support group
[07:23:54] <Tom_L> and it's written in linux just for you
[10:09:40] <rue_shop3> yea, and for me, right now, its limited to a parallel port
[10:09:57] <rue_shop3> which seemed like a bad idea on the grounds that it couldn't move fast enough
[10:10:22] <Tom_L> it would probably do as well as what you've had in the past
[10:10:45] <rue_shop3> however, at 3900RPM on the spindle, the limit is not the step rate
[10:11:00] <Tom_L> that's why i changed my pullies
[10:11:21] <rue_shop3> yup, I also need to work out the max bit size for this project
[10:11:33] <Tom_L> and if that's something you plan to do, you will NEED timing belts instead of the Vee belt
[10:11:37] <rue_shop3> the clock on this profile is at 9:40 and those aint seconds
[10:11:43] <Tom_L> i burned up half dozen of them
[10:12:01] <Tom_L> ~1/4" is max i'd say
[10:12:07] <rue_shop3> feed rate is 10mm/min @depth of .2mm
[10:12:19] <rue_shop3> no, for this project, its only a bit over 1mm
[10:12:36] <rue_shop3> I dont know I'll get 2mm with a slot thats in it
[10:12:40] <Tom_L> what is it?
[10:12:58] <rue_shop3> its a sheet metal cutout for a thing some loggers want
[10:13:10] <rue_shop3> 3mm 6061
[10:13:13] <Tom_L> do you have the program?
[10:13:23] <Tom_L> that's doable
[10:13:26] <rue_shop3> yup, used cambam
[10:13:49] <Tom_L> you probably won't need mine then
[10:13:51] <rue_shop3> but its a trial, so it'll randomly stop at some point, have to get your cam installed and worked out
[10:14:12] <rue_shop3> it just got to the finish line first
[10:14:16] <Tom_L> my cambam trial lasted all of one day
[10:14:23] <Tom_L> i hated it
[10:14:29] <rue_shop3> thats the process here so far, whoever gets to the line first
[10:14:56] <rue_shop3> yea, I had to redo all the lines into a polyline for it to get them right, but then it did
[10:15:01] <Tom_L> gimme a drawing and i can code it
[10:15:03] <rue_shop3> for now, its generating files
[10:15:18] <rue_shop3> my problem is cutters
[10:15:23] <Tom_L> yeah
[10:15:31] <Tom_L> you will want to use carbide
[10:15:37] <Tom_L> the others just won't last
[10:15:39] <rue_shop3> its a sub-70mm x70mm square piece
[10:15:50] <rue_shop3> got a carbide in there now
[10:16:17] <rue_shop3> using a pcb drill, its all I got
[10:16:27] <rue_shop3> its tooo long to go fast
[10:16:43] <Tom_L> i run mine really slow on aluminum
[10:16:45] <rue_shop3> I think I could take this up to 15mm/min, but I dont know much past that
[10:16:54] <Tom_L> ~5 ipm or so in reality
[10:17:11] <Tom_L> it's just not rigid enough
[10:17:26] <rue_shop3> thats 127mm/min, I'm at 10
[10:17:43] <Tom_L> that could be why the cutter is loading up
[10:17:49] <Tom_L> TOO slow
[10:17:55] <rue_shop3> its fine
[10:18:02] <rue_shop3> I also have air on it
[10:18:08] <Tom_L> you just gotta find a place it's happy
[10:18:19] <rue_shop3> its happy at 10mm/min
[10:18:24] <rue_shop3> but I'm not
[10:18:34] <rue_shop3> I have some stouter cutters comming
[10:18:40] <Tom_L> we had jobs that ran a whole week on big machines
[10:18:43] <rue_shop3> they will be here in ~22 days...
[10:19:26] <Tom_L> http://www.lakeshorecarbide.com/
[10:19:28] <rue_shop3> I have a number of #57 carbide drills, which is pretty close to 1mm
[10:19:33] <Tom_L> those guys have quality cutters
[10:19:47] <Tom_L> you can't mill with drills
[10:19:53] <rue_shop3> you know that packages from the states cost $50 shipping right?
[10:20:07] <Tom_L> not if you have someone send it to you
[10:20:40] <rue_shop3> :) yea, but who could I know from a funny country like that?
[10:21:01] <Tom_L> nobody trustworthy
[10:21:35] <Tom_L> btw, after you install there are a couple files missing
[10:21:50] <rue_shop3> heh, jester is gonna come by today and work on it
[10:22:08] <Tom_L> i'll have to send those
[10:22:09] <rue_shop3> sw2012, and he couldn't get ANYTHING working for it or otherwise
[10:22:20] <Tom_L> yeah
[10:22:26] <rue_shop3> sounded like he tried every cam software he could get his hands on
[10:22:36] <Tom_L> i looked at a couple
[10:22:45] <rue_shop3> later, tho, I thought I'd be done at 10 hours
[10:22:54] <rue_shop3> so I came out of bed to check
[10:22:57] <rue_shop3> :(
[10:23:01] <rue_shop3> 70%
[10:23:16] <Tom_L> sounds like a reprap print
[10:23:36] <rue_shop3> I'm hoping nothing screws up
[10:23:53] <Tom_L> how accurate does it need to be?
[10:23:53] <rue_shop3> 40 mins was long enough to wait for the wood cutout
[10:24:05] <Tom_L> if you have slop in the axis it will be off
[10:24:21] <rue_shop3> not, its a cut with all sorts of curves and junk that we just dont want to have to do by hand
[10:24:25] <Tom_L> lcnc has comp for that
[10:24:36] <rue_shop3> this things got 1mm ball screws
[10:24:45] <Tom_L> nice
[10:24:55] <Tom_L> i wish i could afford a better machine
[10:24:55] <rue_shop3> +-
[10:25:14] <rue_shop3> 1mm pitch w/ 10x microstepping...
[10:25:21] <rue_shop3> 2000 steps/mm
[10:25:38] <Tom_L> mine's at 40,000 / inch
[10:25:42] <rue_shop3> clobbers the step rate of most controllers
[10:26:26] <rue_shop3> 50800/inch on this
[10:26:48] <Tom_L> must be pretty fine ballscrews
[10:26:52] <rue_shop3> yea
[10:27:30] <rue_shop3> if I finish making a machine I'll aim for 0.5 thou/step
[10:27:35] <rue_shop3> 0.25 finest
[10:27:41] <Tom_L> at that rate i can get 80ipm rapids before i get lost steps on the steppers
[10:27:58] <rue_shop3> yea
[10:28:17] <rue_shop3> they were saying the parallel ports may not give up more than 10khz step rate
[10:28:18] <rue_shop3> iirc
[10:28:30] <rue_shop3> er 100k... arg
[10:28:31] <Tom_L> probably
[10:28:49] <rue_shop3> anyhow, grbl will do 15Khz
[10:28:50] <Tom_L> the mesa stuff is much nicer
[10:28:55] <rue_shop3> or was it 30k
[10:28:59] <Tom_L> it offloads all the step stuff
[10:29:03] <rue_shop3> yea
[10:29:08] <rue_shop3> $$
[10:29:16] <Tom_L> not too bad really
[10:29:26] <Tom_L> considering what you get
[10:29:30] <rue_shop3> not making any money yet :)
[10:30:55] <Tom_L> i'll be gone most of the day so if you wanna install it'll have to be after ~3pm
[10:33:25] <rue_bed> have a crude guide now?
[10:33:44] <rue_bed> pull pin and throw?
[10:33:49] <rue_bed> (throw the pin)
[10:36:12] <rue_bed> I sure learned a lot about python and tkinter last night tho
[10:48:58] <Tom_L> all you need is ffm directory and dxf and iges if you want
[10:49:06] <Tom_L> run setup.exe in each
[10:49:14] <Tom_L> install the metric samples
[10:49:18] <Tom_L> pm
[10:49:44] * rue_bed suddenly has identity issues
[10:50:07] <Tom_L> pm silly
[10:52:54] <Tom_L> install to the sm8 directory
[10:56:48] <Tom_L> you could install the pturn directory if you want lathe
[10:57:13] <Tom_L> they will have files that overlap, it's ok to write over them
[11:20:58] <Jymmm> rue_bed: You are now a water buffalo! In an hour, you will become a cucumber!
[13:46:04] <rue_shop3> I'll be damned, its finished
[13:46:09] <rue_shop3> 12.5 hours
[13:48:11] <Jymmm> lol
[13:48:45] <Jymmm> Now, take a torch to it and see how long it takes to destroy it.
[13:49:40] <Jymmm> rue_shop3: Your wood boiler also serves as hot water for the house (showers, etc) all year long too?
[13:51:49] <rue_shop3> no
[13:51:55] <rue_shop3> not potable
[13:51:57] <rue_shop3> just heating
[13:54:58] <rue_shop3> I have to say tho, it looks like it was cut on a flowjet
[15:05:44] <Tom_L> is that good or bad?
[15:22:04] <rue_shop3> looks good
[15:24:57] <Tom_L> pics
[15:25:17] <rue_shop3> hmm
[16:21:15] <Jymmm> rue_shop3: Ah, ok.
[17:41:48] <rue_shop3> hmm, nobody who said they were gonna visit did
[17:42:01] <rue_shop3> at this point I'm thinking of going on a trip
[17:42:06] <rue_shop3> hmm
[17:42:47] <Tom_L> feelin lonely?
[17:43:13] <rue_shop3> well, there are things I want to do that aren't here
[17:43:46] <Tom_L> so do what is there instead
[17:43:52] <rue_shop3> one guy said he'd be by to work on a tool, ma said she would be by to check out the wire bender I made her, and jester was supposed to show up
[17:44:09] <rue_shop3> I prettymuch have the boiler ready to fire
[17:44:13] <rue_shop3> ... if I install it
[17:44:19] <rue_shop3> its fire-ready
[17:44:23] <rue_shop3> not finished
[17:44:40] <rue_shop3> I have to move the old reactor out of the way sometime
[17:44:49] <rue_shop3> my truck is full of printers from the hospital...
[17:45:00] <rue_shop3> ... I should make sure there is no paper in them
[17:45:01] <Tom_L> how much have you actually saved in heating cost over the last 3 years?
[17:45:15] <rue_shop3> few hundred dollars
[17:45:37] <rue_shop3> its $300/mo in gas to have the house warm
[17:45:47] <Tom_L> is it pretty well fine tuned now?
[17:45:51] <rue_shop3> so prolly more
[17:45:59] <rue_shop3> it works, its not tuned
[17:46:13] <rue_shop3> need more emitter rad area
[17:46:20] <Tom_L> still gettin free wood?
[17:46:26] <rue_shop3> there is no control at the boiler for the boiler
[17:46:27] <rue_shop3> yea
[17:46:37] <Tom_L> except delivery cost
[17:46:42] <rue_shop3> had to empty the truck in a huryy on friday to get the printers
[17:46:56] <rue_shop3> about 1/3 of the 500kg of wood needs to be cut up
[17:47:03] <rue_shop3> I had to go to the dump anyhow
[17:47:10] <rue_shop3> its $10 in fuel
[17:47:24] <rue_shop3> I'm satisfied with the numbers
[17:47:55] <rue_shop3> part of me wants to work on the cam program for linux
[17:48:19] <rue_shop3> I was playing with python last night.. till 3am... and was able to frame up a bit of an app
[17:48:29] <Tom_L> did you look at jt's code?
[17:48:49] <rue_shop3> oh... forgot about that
[17:49:10] <Tom_L> seems like everybody that starts one starts over and gets just so far and stops
[17:49:31] <Tom_L> someone should take the already formed snowball and run with it
[17:49:38] <rue_shop3> kinda
[17:50:05] <rue_shop3> sometimes its more work to pick up from the obsolete unsupported stuff someone else used than to start making something you know inside out
[17:50:32] <rue_shop3> he used the libracad libraries tho, thats interesting, I'd looked at that and not been able to make heads or tails of it
[17:50:48] <rue_shop3> I'm also having fun building up my software library
[17:51:06] <rue_shop3> I'v never done polygon stuff in my libraries before
[17:51:12] <rue_shop3> thinking excersize
[17:51:28] <Tom_L> yup
[18:08:44] <rue_house> I want to go and scrounge, but the truck is full
[18:09:04] <rue_house> I think this hilights two problems
[18:30:40] <Tom_L> either one involves you getting up
[19:37:23] * rue_shop3 is auctually The_jester atm
[19:38:04] <rue_shop3> Tom_L so rue is having me install smart cam here, Whats your advise
[20:59:22] <Tom_L> install it?
[20:59:36] <Tom_L> i sent him a pm with directions
[21:26:52] <Tom_L> the directories of interest are: ffm, pturn, iges and dxf with a setup.exe in each
[21:53:27] <katsmeow> mou
[21:54:25] <Tom_L> se
[22:25:53] <Tom_L> lively bunch tonight
[22:26:48] <katsmeow> i wasn't sure , there were 3 nites no one talked, i thoght that bacame the norm here
[22:27:34] <Tom_L> i didn't look at your spindle because there was no link to it
[22:28:34] <katsmeow> huh?
[22:28:44] <Tom_L> wonder if there is a utility to rename an entire directory of similar named files
[22:28:47] <Tom_L> sequential
[22:28:54] <katsmeow> you are the ne who made the drawing, youo have the url
[22:29:15] <Tom_L> i had no indication what that was or was for
[22:29:25] <katsmeow> umm, you can use dos command ren , with wildcards
[22:29:53] <Tom_L> i need xyz1234 xyz1235 xyz1236 to be 1 2 3 4 etc
[22:29:54] <katsmeow> oh i have no drawing of how to use the spindle or what it goes into
[22:30:07] <katsmeow> oh
[22:31:14] <Tom_L> i could write something i suppose
[22:31:24] <Tom_L> i don't want it _that_ bad
[22:33:32] <katsmeow> hard to make a guess withut even seeing the folder and knowing what you want the names to become
[22:33:42] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/temp/Shaft3.jpg
[22:33:46] <Tom_L> that is a spindle?
[22:34:13] <katsmeow> mine, yeas
[22:34:46] <katsmeow> rue won't be making them this yr tho, he got sidetracked the day after he made the one, remember?
[22:35:24] <katsmeow> finally found a 5/16 6-flute reamer too
[22:35:40] <Tom_L> MT1J1159.CR2 MT1J1160.CR2 MT1J1161.CR2 to 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg etc
[22:35:46] <katsmeow> so many are over/undersized, used and abused, or actually 8mm
[22:36:26] <katsmeow> 1159 has no relation to the 1 in 1.jpg ? and they are all already jpgs ?
[22:36:52] <Tom_L> they will end up as jpgs
[22:37:02] <Tom_L> they are raw files
[22:37:25] <katsmeow> heck, i got depressed enough to break the camel's back, and am almost at a standstill on everything now
[22:37:33] <Tom_L> 1159 has a relation to 1.jpg as it is the first file in the directory
[22:37:53] <katsmeow> how many files to be renamed?
[22:37:58] <Tom_L> hundreds
[22:38:04] <katsmeow> oh, ouch
[22:38:42] <Tom_L> a simple task for software
[22:38:53] <katsmeow> yeas, longe to write than to execute
[22:39:08] <katsmeow> win 32bit?
[22:39:11] <Tom_L> longer to motivate to write than to actually write
[22:39:18] <Tom_L> 64
[22:39:45] * katsmeow sighs,, never written anything for 64bit
[22:39:58] <Tom_L> dos could read them though
[22:40:06] <Tom_L> 8.3 format
[22:41:48] <katsmeow> actually, last time i had to do a batch rename on winxp i had to use "move"
[22:44:02] <Jymmm> katsmeow: Next time, try using format c:/u instead ;)
[22:44:37] <katsmeow> Jymmm , thanks
[22:44:58] <Jymmm> katsmeow: =)
[22:45:17] <katsmeow> system("move /Y \""&workdir&dirlisting[dirloop][1]&"\" \""&workdir&newname&"\"",2)
[22:45:51] <Jymmm> Ehm I stilll like
[22:46:13] <katsmeow> 18 line program to change all the " " in filenames to "_", and prefix the files with a "_" too
[22:46:26] <Jymmm> echo y | format x: /q/u
[22:47:15] <katsmeow> gotten anyone fired for telling them to do that to a computer at work?
[22:47:59] <Jymmm> Nah, I was IT for 20+ years anyway
[22:49:02] <Jymmm> I have images anyway, restore in 14 minutes =)
[22:49:04] <katsmeow> Tom, did you make a backup dir for safety first?
[23:19:43] <katsmeow> oooo, what if the entire Westworld *staff* is a different layer of the same sorta robots?
