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[00:00:16] <rue_shop3> it could be done before the rest of the shaping
[00:01:36] <katsmeow> you can drill it so the long axis meets the sideways hole axis?
[00:03:08] <rue_shop3> have to think on that one
[00:03:11] <rue_shop3> bore it
[00:03:16] <rue_shop3> in the 4jaw
[00:03:21] <katsmeow> hole center wold be .65 up from the 5/16 bearing seat, i believe
[00:03:48] <katsmeow> which means the .75 dia length would be 1"
[00:03:51] <rue_shop3> dont know if I can grab it to machine the rest if its been cut to length to bore
[00:03:59] <katsmeow> i *believe* that will be correct
[00:07:23] <katsmeow> i was going to flat it down to .180-ish and tapered to the 5/16's .030 shoulder, mark the center, center punch it, then drill it in baby drill press, and ream it to .500
[00:07:45] <katsmeow> leaving as much steel as possible for strength
[00:10:09] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/p1080514.jpg
[00:10:17] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/p1080515.jpg
[00:10:23] <rue_house> that look like the right part?
[00:13:08] <katsmeow> that is so beautiful
[00:13:38] <rue_house> hah
[00:14:08] <katsmeow> http://designerthinking.com/images/shoulder/DSCF7178m2.jpg
[00:14:23] <rue_house> you should see the 2" long 0.2" dia tube I made with 0.01" thick walls back in highschool
[00:14:39] <rue_house> hmm
[00:14:49] <rue_house> why didn't we make it from a 3/4" eye bolt?
[00:15:09] <katsmeow> that's how the sidways hole will be once i have hacksawed, filed, etc
[00:15:22] <katsmeow> because the bolt head is way too small
[00:15:35] <katsmeow> that hole is .500 dia
[00:15:39] <rue_house> eye bolt
[00:15:41] <rue_house> O---
[00:15:57] <rue_house> ?
[00:16:07] <rue_house> oooh too narrow
[00:16:57] <katsmeow> i can't picture a eyebolt with the hole eye in the right place, and small enough to put a bearing in
[00:17:24] <rue_house> well, turned down
[00:17:39] <rue_house> I just mean the eye bolt as rough stock
[00:18:05] <katsmeow> still cannot imagine it
[00:18:44] <rue_house> your shape does not fit in the volume of an eye bolt?
[00:18:51] <katsmeow> 3/8 shank, and the eye small enough to have 3/16-ish surface inside a .500 hole?
[00:19:11] <katsmeow> i thoughit would too, but nope
[00:19:32] <katsmeow> maybe they have different ones in Canada
[00:22:02] <katsmeow> i even considered making the whole thing from flat plate, but that wold have been rough on the lathe
[00:27:04] <katsmeow> rue, whacha doing?
[00:27:47] <rue_house> I'm looking back on the years photos
[00:27:51] <rue_house> I made lots of things this year
[00:27:56] <katsmeow> ah
[00:29:08] <rue_house> oh dear god, I' been working on your digits since mar
[00:29:23] <katsmeow> fwiw, Harborfreight has a coupon out for $40 for their 1/3 hp oiless compressor on a 3gal (1/2 cu ft) 100 psi compressor with pressure regulator
[00:29:48] <katsmeow> the 2500lb winch is couponed at $54
[00:30:47] <katsmeow> "original coupon must be shown" , unless you call in the order, or buy on the .com
[00:30:56] <rue_house> oh I could use a 4017 to do a 3-10 phase switching converter
[00:31:08] <rue_house> hmm
[00:31:26] <katsmeow> i know i have no 4017's , but i am willing to send you payment
[00:31:29] <rue_house> hah I cut the digits in jan
[00:35:01] * katsmeow needs a munchie
[01:13:00] <katsmeow> "what's wrong with the train?" "technically speaking, it broke"
[09:40:54] <katsmeow> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Decimal-fraction_equivalents--v0006.svg
[09:40:57] <katsmeow> that is all
[09:53:21] <katsmeow> a much better chart:
http://DesignerThinking.com/DrillBitChart.htm
[09:53:26] <katsmeow> that is all
[13:12:29] <Tom_L> kat i've got one on my phone
[18:27:57] <Tom_L> http://m.aptoide.com/app/com.donstegall.drillbitchart/drill-bit-charts
[18:28:16] <Tom_L> got pretty much all of it
[19:24:41] <rue_house> I have a chart sorted by size, of all the bits
[19:24:51] <rue_house> alpa, number, imperial
[19:24:53] <rue_house> and metric
[19:24:59] <rue_house> in order of size
[20:00:14] <Tom_L> that app does that
[20:00:31] <Tom_L> i have several wall charts i've gotten from tool suppliers etc
[20:03:28] <Tom_L> rue_house, are you takin care of kat with the parts?
[20:17:52] <rue_house> problem, dont have enought metal to do 8
[21:06:50] <katsmeow> i decided what the world needs now is a tall LOX-cooled drinking mug
[21:07:23] <katsmeow> yo can get drunk on a super-chilled beverage and breath in the boiling oxygen to be smarter
[21:15:18] <Tom_L> rue_house it takes 25"
[21:15:22] <rue_shop3> hi kat
[21:15:31] <rue_shop3> so, I dont have enough material to make 8
[21:15:32] <katsmeow> hi rue
[21:15:40] <katsmeow> assorted greetings, Tom
[21:15:50] <katsmeow> aarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggg
[21:15:50] <rue_shop3> what shall we do to move forward
[21:15:56] <rue_shop3> I have your digits too
[21:16:03] <Tom_L> not roll backward down the hill?
[21:16:04] <katsmeow> acquire more material
[21:16:18] <rue_shop3> I'll dig
[21:16:24] <rue_shop3> I might have enough for 4
[21:16:35] <rue_shop3> I dont use stuff that big often
[21:16:38] <Tom_L> tell me in that cramped shop of yours you don't have 1 bar of steel?
[21:16:49] <rue_shop3> not 3/4"+
[21:17:10] <katsmeow> what do you make robot claws from??
[21:17:21] <rue_shop3> the peice I used was a chunk I found by the side of the road, it was pitted down 1/16"
[21:17:31] <katsmeow> o
[21:17:46] <rue_shop3> but it was a 1"+ bar
[21:17:54] <Tom_L> pull the rear axle or sway bar from your truck
[21:17:58] <Tom_L> that would be enough
[21:18:25] <rue_shop3> I have a short axle thing from a car, it'll be too hard tho
[21:18:43] <Tom_L> yeah they have quite a temper
[21:19:08] <rue_shop3> well, were 1/8 of the way there
[21:19:36] <rue_shop3> prolly gonna borrow a sherline mill for a while!
[21:19:48] <rue_shop3> I'm curious to see it
[21:19:56] <Tom_L> won't cut steel
[21:20:02] <rue_shop3> the origional used a parallel port i/f?
[21:20:04] <Tom_L> you will be dissapointed
[21:20:18] <Tom_L> mine was cereal
[21:20:26] <rue_shop3> 25 pin?
[21:20:30] <Tom_L> 9
[21:20:34] <Tom_L> iirc
[21:20:41] <rue_shop3> hmm I wonder what I'll get
[21:20:50] <Tom_L> the box is in the garage on the shelf
[21:21:04] <Tom_L> mine wasn't sherline control
[21:21:13] <rue_shop3> I think that what most people did with the control box
[21:21:25] <Tom_L> it worked
[21:21:37] <Tom_L> still would
[21:21:56] <rue_shop3> its comming with 3 stepper drivers
[21:22:09] <Tom_L> jester?
[21:22:20] <rue_shop3> no armyofevilrobots
[21:22:24] <Tom_L> oh
[21:22:42] <rue_shop3> its collecting dust in a corner of his storage
[21:22:55] <Tom_L> adjust everything on it
[21:22:59] <Tom_L> it may cut ok
[21:23:01] <rue_shop3> haha
[21:23:16] <Tom_L> i've done alot with mine but nothing heavy
[21:23:19] <rue_shop3> I been asleep all day
[21:23:36] <rue_shop3> I'd like to profile some 3mm aluminum
[21:23:43] <rue_shop3> I think it can with lots of passes
[21:23:46] <Tom_L> yeah
[21:23:49] <Tom_L> slowly
[21:23:57] <Tom_L> you need a program for it?
[21:24:05] <rue_shop3> yea, its not a haas
[21:24:13] <rue_shop3> I might, I'll see what I get
[21:24:23] <rue_shop3> might set up linuxcnc with parallel port
[21:24:30] <rue_shop3> just speculating
[21:24:34] <Tom_L> it would do
[21:24:50] <Tom_L> you need to know the step and space for the input freq on the drivers
[21:24:58] <rue_shop3> my goal it to make a better machine by the time its to go back
[21:25:05] <Tom_L> mine were old and slow and didn't work well with linuxcnc
[21:25:10] <rue_shop3> k
[21:25:29] <rue_shop3> I think my origional reprap has a step pulse time problem
[21:25:31] <Tom_L> it did ok but i was going for better not average
[21:26:18] <rue_shop3> whats the chuck/collet on them?
[21:26:19] <Tom_L> they just had their fest here last weekend again
[21:26:36] <Tom_L> 2mt?
[21:26:37] <Tom_L> i think
[21:26:41] <rue_shop3> oh
[21:26:44] <Tom_L> maybe 1?
[21:26:50] <Tom_L> no, the collet screws on
[21:26:55] <rue_shop3> I think my lathe is 2/3/4
[21:27:00] <Tom_L> if you want a drill chuck it goes in the taper
[21:27:02] <rue_shop3> so I'd think its 1
[21:27:04] <Tom_L> with a draw bolt
[21:27:35] <Tom_L> i got a bunch of screw in collets
[21:27:36] <rue_shop3> yea its 2/3/4
[21:27:38] <Tom_L> different sizes
[21:28:13] <katsmeow> so it's sorta like i am not getting the axles from rue?
[21:28:16] <rue_shop3> ooh, this adapter is 3x1
[21:28:37] <rue_shop3> so I have 1/2/3... 4
[21:28:47] <rue_shop3> I just need to round up metal
[21:28:52] <rue_shop3> you in a hurry?
[21:28:56] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/old_pulley2.jpg
[21:29:04] <katsmeow> apparently, i am not
[21:29:05] <rue_shop3> I was just making deals for scrap today
[21:29:07] <Tom_L> first thing you need to do is get rid of that belt setup
[21:29:15] <Tom_L> you will burn them up quick
[21:29:28] <Tom_L> my timing belts work great
[21:29:28] <rue_shop3> there is a yard thats supposed to not be used anymore, and there is a big pile of metal building up in it
[21:29:44] <rue_shop3> Tom_L, auto timing belt?
[21:29:48] <rue_shop3> or smaller
[21:29:55] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/timing_pulley3.jpg
[21:29:58] <Tom_L> lots smaller
[21:30:04] <rue_shop3> k
[21:30:18] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/new_pulley_mounted1.jpg
[21:30:21] <rue_shop3> hmm, I wonder if I should step the speed down for the alum
[21:30:22] <Tom_L> there's the belt number
[21:30:24] <katsmeow> lemme put it this way, when you said you cold make them all(?), i ordered the last f the needed bearings with the last of my grocery money
[21:30:36] <Tom_L> rue_house, i stepped it up
[21:30:43] <rue_shop3> Tom_L, you bents your encoder wheelz
[21:30:52] <Tom_L> it's ~2500 - 3k normally
[21:30:57] <Tom_L> i get about 5500 now
[21:31:10] <Tom_L> that encoder is gone now too
[21:31:16] <rue_shop3> katsmeow, no worries, I just need a week or so to get the metal
[21:31:26] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/spindle_enc6.jpg
[21:31:30] <Tom_L> drive belt on the right
[21:31:35] <Tom_L> encoder belt on the left
[21:31:43] <Tom_L> 1:1
[21:32:06] <rue_shop3> k, lets not dive in now tom, I'll see what I get
[21:32:15] <Tom_L> kat, you can't eat needle bearings!
[21:32:30] <Tom_L> well you have the part numbers there
[21:32:38] <rue_shop3> katsmeow, I'm planning to raid the pile on the weekend
[21:32:46] <katsmeow> ball bearings, and very little ones too
[21:32:57] <rue_shop3> I'll look for the bar
[21:33:00] <Tom_L> i got some from slot cars
[21:33:04] <Tom_L> those are tiny
[21:33:10] * katsmeow nods
[21:33:17] <rue_shop3> I got some 2mmx3mm for a pen knife for ma
[21:35:16] <Tom_L> 2 of those pulleys came of my bot
[21:35:58] <rue_shop3> which one!?
[21:36:04] <rue_shop3> not the sumo
[21:36:19] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/maxbot/maxbot_index.php
[21:36:35] <katsmeow> i been looking for small OD and largeID, like the R1810 and the R1212, or 6803 at the very biggest
[21:36:37] <rue_shop3> I wonder if it would be hard to use it with the stepper divider head I made
[21:37:02] <Tom_L> you won't get any speed from it
[21:37:19] <rue_shop3> thats what I expect from steppers
[21:37:30] <rue_shop3> I'm thinking of making pullies,
[21:37:37] <rue_shop3> I can stretch this out forever ;)
[21:37:43] <Tom_L> i can get ~80 ipm max with a 20 tpi screw
[21:37:45] <Tom_L> that's not bad
[21:37:45] <rue_shop3> no, I need to try to get parts made
[21:40:11] <Tom_L> regular sherline?
[21:40:21] <Tom_L> those don't have enough Y travel
[21:40:48] <rue_shop3> I was told it could fit the side I'm after
[21:40:53] <Tom_L> but are probably more rigid than mine
[21:40:56] <rue_shop3> oh, is Y up?
[21:41:03] <Tom_L> y is front to back
[21:41:11] <Tom_L> z is up silly
[21:41:27] <rue_shop3> hey, they are old, no idea what they decided to call the axies
[21:41:58] <Tom_L> X Y Z and A B C are rotary axis associated with them
[21:42:13] <Tom_L> normally
[21:42:33] <rue_shop3> no sherline was more than 4 axis!?
[21:42:34] <Tom_L> G 17 18 19
[21:42:48] <Tom_L> probably not
[21:44:14] <Tom_L> G17 is default
[21:44:21] <Tom_L> XY plane
[21:46:24] <katsmeow> going to go lay down a few.........
[21:46:37] <Tom_L> me too
[21:46:46] <Tom_L> several few
[22:04:16] <rue_shop3> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[22:04:29] <rue_shop3> I just heard a little click from the back of the shop
[22:04:34] <rue_shop3> sounded like a thermostat
[22:04:48] <rue_shop3> the only one there is the hot water tank for the heating, which is off
[22:05:09] <rue_shop3> I'd know if I was on .... AND IT WAS ON CAUSE A PIPE ON ITS HOT!
[22:05:25] <rue_shop3> NOWONDER the power bill has been crazy latley for it
[22:05:46] <rue_shop3> also expalins why the shop is quite a bit wamer than it should be
[22:06:05] <Tom_L> electric water heater?
[22:06:15] <Tom_L> i use gas for that
[22:06:52] <Tom_L> you got hot water in the shop???
[22:07:40] <rue_shop3> yea
[22:07:49] <rue_shop3> its a 1500W 'boiler' for the floor
[22:07:55] <Tom_L> oh
[22:08:06] <rue_shop3> when trying to heat the shop, it draws 1500w continious for weeks
[22:08:10] <rue_shop3> so I dont use it
[22:08:10] <Tom_L> you never tied that into your heatplant?
[22:08:17] <rue_shop3> IT WAS SUPPSOED TO BE OFF
[22:08:38] <Tom_L> so is it now?
[22:08:40] <rue_shop3> thats the plan, I got a heat exchanger end of last winter
[22:08:53] <rue_shop3> just turned it off, didn't know it was on, shouldn't have been
[22:09:27] <Tom_L> finally booted my software out the door
[22:09:42] <Tom_L> hope i never hear from it
[22:09:49] <rue_shop3> :)
[22:10:42] <Tom_L> it was somewhat of an enhanced crippled version of what i already use
[22:10:45] <rue_shop3> running the circ pump now to dump off the heat from the tank
[22:10:59] <rue_shop3> glad that the pump wasn't going, that would have really sucked power
[22:11:00] <Tom_L> why?
[22:11:10] <Tom_L> let it cool normally
[22:11:21] <Tom_L> you're just disapating it into the concrete
[22:11:24] <rue_shop3> it was just sitting there keeping itself warm, which is still too much juice
[22:11:38] <rue_shop3> yea, It'll warm the floor up a bit
[22:11:48] <rue_shop3> 0.025 degrees or so
[22:12:03] <Tom_L> the worms will thank you
[22:13:05] <Tom_L> i wish i new python
[22:13:12] <rue_shop3> python isn't hard
[22:13:17] <Tom_L> no but i've never used it
[22:16:21] <Tom_L> will it work under windows?
[22:16:28] <Tom_L> or is it a linux thing
[22:16:40] <rue_shop3> both
[22:16:47] <rue_shop3> want a tut?
[22:16:51] <Tom_L> no
[22:17:06] <rue_shop3> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/prog/python/learn_py.html
[22:17:09] <rue_shop3> there is one anyhow
[22:18:13] <Tom_L> so it's not compiled, rather interpreted
[22:18:26] <rue_shop3> you can compile it, dunno how
[22:21:19] <Tom_L> maybe sometime i'll try it
