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[00:08:03] <rue_house> hahaha
[00:08:06] <rue_house> 1 boat, check.
[00:08:37] <rue_house> it looks like they didn't even damage it in shipping yet
[00:09:55] <katsmeow> heh
[00:11:52] * katsmeow feels so happy, with new pata drives, a tall glass of cold apple cider, and warm lasagna, at the end of a useful day
[00:15:25] <katsmeow> news reports say usa farmers just dumped 34 million gallons of milk as surplus, when it's still $3/gal at the store?!?
[00:18:02] <rue_bed> yea
[00:18:10] <rue_bed> they cant let the price go down
[00:18:40] <rue_bed> its like auto manufacturers destroying new cars
[00:18:56] <katsmeow> $100 million into the manure ponds, what a freaking waste
[00:19:09] <rue_bed> they cant let them go cheap, it would cut into their profits on newer cars
[00:19:16] <rue_bed> yea
[00:19:30] <rue_bed> its politics that destroy us
[00:20:27] <katsmeow> http://www.nasdaq.com/article/dairy-farmers-dump-43-million-gallons-of-milk-20161012-00419
[00:27:16] <katsmeow> In particular, solid-state or SSD storage devices are replacing traditional hard drives at a tremendous rate. That's great for Western Digital, since the SanDisk acquisition gave the company an instant position of leadership in the SSD space.
[00:30:10] <katsmeow> https://www.cnet.com/news/meet-impossible-foods-lab-grown-veggie-burger-it-bleeds/
[01:14:16] <rue_bed> I'v had two ssd's neither of them lasted more than 6 months
[01:14:45] * katsmeow nods
[01:18:28] * katsmeow looks very tired
[01:20:47] <katsmeow> gnites
[17:31:09] <Tom_L> rue_bed what brand ssd?
[21:32:49] <rue_house> two different
[21:32:56] <rue_house> kingston and adata
[21:34:26] <katsmeow> oh
[21:34:47] <Tom_L> samsung seem ok so far, they have good reviews
[21:35:07] <katsmeow> i'd prefer a hdd caching card, using regular mobo ram modules on it
[21:35:13] <rue_house> the two I chose had equally fast read and write times, usually, they are really lopsided
[21:35:27] <katsmeow> <cou they all have good revews ugh>
[21:35:28] <rue_house> lots of them are 1/10 the write speed
[21:35:30] <Tom_L> evo series
[22:28:49] <katsmeow> ...
[22:29:56] <rue_house> ..--..
[22:30:38] <katsmeow> ,,,_=<^o,o^>=_,,,
[22:31:08] <rue_house> ---\/\/\/\/\----|(----
[22:31:33] <katsmeow> <blink>
[22:32:03] <rue_house> ---[<-----
[22:33:32] <rue_house> ----K
[22:34:23] <rue_house> can any nonlinear component be used for logic?
[22:34:47] <rue_house> I mean, if a neon bulb can...
[22:35:09] <katsmeow> possibly
[22:35:53] <rue_house> hvae you ever read up on neural plasticity?
[22:36:14] <rue_house> apparently neuron training is done with impulse timing
[22:36:31] <rue_house> I dont completely understand yet
[22:37:09] <katsmeow> i didn't have any need to reprogram just one of my neurons
[22:37:47] <rue_house> the brain is a pfm modulated neuron array that performs logic functions and can learn
[22:38:02] <rue_house> the pfm has started to make sense
[22:38:20] <rue_house> but I dont understand how to train a pfm gate
[22:39:20] <katsmeow> takes too long anyhow, look at how many hours a human is learning mode tween age 0 and 25
[22:39:55] <katsmeow> and remember that 1/2 of them are below average after all that learning time
[22:40:42] <rue_house> pfm is cool, its digital, but its analog
[22:40:48] <rue_house> huge dynamic range
[22:41:09] <katsmeow> you need a computer that can do more than barf, scream, and fill diapers for the first year you have it
[22:41:25] <rue_house> I need to know how my brain works
[22:41:34] <rue_house> I need to port it to a different platform
[22:42:28] <rue_house> one that dosn't ahve to stress about the electric blanket maybe not working tonight
[22:42:41] <katsmeow> soon as you program the 3D printer to discect your brain and rebuild it on the other table with electronics?
[22:42:44] <rue_house> cause of some flashing jazz it was up to this morning
[22:43:26] <katsmeow> yeas, i agve up pn lectric blankets, they don;t last, and too much wrong with them outa the box, so i made my footroaster
[22:44:10] <rue_house> my goal is to reimplement the app my brain is running on a different platform, it dosn't matter what opcodes it uses, just that the program behaves the same
[22:44:52] <katsmeow> so a generic Ai
[22:45:14] <Tom_L> would it still twitch at them mention of windows?
[22:45:40] <rue_house> interesting problem on your roof kat
[22:45:42] <katsmeow> no thanks, seen windows before
[22:45:46] <rue_house> Tom_L, YES
[22:46:19] <katsmeow> would it hatch an insane plot to corrupt it's hardware and die, to be acceptable to humans?
[22:46:28] <rue_house> no
[22:46:45] <rue_house> I figure depression is the biggest danger
[22:46:59] <rue_house> watching everyone you will ever know die
[22:47:05] <katsmeow> was the name Mellenium Man, Tom ?
[22:47:17] <katsmeow> Millen
[22:47:26] <rue_house> but, I'm insanely alone now, so its not likley to be too much different
[22:47:28] <katsmeow> whichever
[22:47:38] <rue_house> bicentenial man?
[22:47:42] <katsmeow> yeas, ok
[22:48:09] <katsmeow> you have freiends visit you there, i don't
[22:48:36] <katsmeow> you don;t hear gunfire every day, and haveto go inside to get away from trash fire smoke
[22:49:32] <rue_house> not much I can say, were all working with what we got
[22:50:06] <katsmeow> i quit working with a lot of what i got
[22:50:46] <rue_house> hey, dont let me get your foot in the gutter!
[22:51:23] <katsmeow> i need some presice drilling done
[22:51:33] <rue_house> grid?
[22:51:52] <katsmeow> i guess it may be a 3D curved grid, i spose
[22:52:10] <rue_house> smaller than 6" x 12"?
[22:52:26] <katsmeow> yeas
[22:52:48] <rue_house> in something solfer than steel?
[22:52:59] <katsmeow> in a 3" dia tubing section, maybe 2" long
[22:53:06] <katsmeow> steel is preferred
[22:53:18] <rue_house> hmm, I have a 4th axis for my cnc
[22:53:22] <rue_house> never really used it
[22:54:13] <rue_house> well
[22:54:34] <rue_house> there is always using a drafting program, printing 1:1, glueing, punching, drilling
[22:54:54] <katsmeow> drill holes for to press bearings into, around the edges, in a + pattern
[22:54:54] <rue_house> prolly how we'd do it here
[22:55:38] <rue_house> on the weekend, i'm gonna sit down and work on a project
[22:55:43] <rue_house> I dont know what
[22:55:55] <rue_house> katsmeow, have a lser printer?
[22:56:14] <katsmeow> no
[22:56:37] <rue_house> I wonder how true the scaling on an inkjet is
[22:57:01] <katsmeow> actually, yeas got t yrs ago to do pcbs,, never opened the box becauseof the pink string i never use any more but still got
[22:57:26] <rue_house> oh, well,
[22:57:28] <katsmeow> the box is unopened on teh stairs
[22:57:43] <rue_house> can I help you design a glue-on template?
[22:58:05] <katsmeow> of what?
[22:58:11] <rue_house> hole pattern
[22:59:45] <katsmeow> no, you cannot, because you don't know the pipe OD, etc
[23:00:10] <rue_house> hah, no thats why I cant do it for you :)
[23:04:28] <katsmeow> a lathe would make it easy
[23:04:41] <katsmeow> a 4-jaw anyhow
[23:04:46] <rue_house> ?
[23:04:59] <rue_house> I didn't properly understand the directions of your holes
[23:05:08] <katsmeow> just chuck the pipe and stop the turn so each jaw rests on a stop and hold jig
[23:05:12] * rue_house considers a rephrase
[23:05:32] <rue_house> how would you get the angle right
[23:06:05] <katsmeow> by pointing the drill bit to a point held in the jaws before you chuck the tube
[23:06:18] * rue_house nods
[23:06:29] <katsmeow> the drill held in a gij on the slide table
[23:06:35] <rue_house> 4 holes in each end or two?
[23:06:57] <rue_house> hey, I hava milling machine
[23:07:04] <katsmeow> once it's figuresd out a supporting positioning bearing in a jig could be made
[23:07:05] <rue_house> and a 4 jaw chuck
[23:07:18] <katsmeow> but some lathes have a drill/mill kit with them too
[23:07:24] <rue_house> all I need is a right angle redu..... waaaaaait a sec....
[23:07:37] <rue_house> I know someone with a pile of them
[23:07:42] <katsmeow> not in the end, drilled 90 degrees frm teh tube axis
[23:07:45] <rue_house> 8|
[23:08:39] <rue_house> hmm
[23:08:49] <rue_house> I'll need something to trade him for that
[23:09:06] <katsmeow> could do it in a drill press, but bloody unlikely it willbe in the same room as "accurate"
[23:09:15] <rue_house> katsmeow, if someone wanted a gearbox you had kicking around what would you trade it for?
[23:09:43] <rue_house> like me and you, this guy has 'everything'
[23:10:01] <rue_house> .. I could take him his chipper back
[23:10:28] <rue_house> maybe I few hours help with his staircase
[23:11:04] <rue_house> ok, I have to go to
[23:14:01] <rue_bed> .
[23:15:08] <katsmeow> to where?
[23:15:32] <rue_bed> HERE
[23:16:02] <katsmeow> o
[23:16:10] <rue_bed> blanket must have a microcontroller
[23:16:16] <rue_bed> a power cycle fixed it
[23:16:22] <katsmeow> and it has no UPS
[23:16:39] <katsmeow> power blinks, it forgets what it exists for
[23:16:48] <rue_bed> dunno
[23:16:58] <rue_bed> this morning I turned it on again (auto off)
[23:17:10] <rue_bed> and instead of working it just blinked the light
[23:17:58] <rue_bed> do you think I can use my welder set to 15A for an EDM supply?
[23:18:15] <rue_bed> oh sorry,I'm mixing email conversations in
[23:18:18] <katsmeow> hence my foot roaster, it has mechanincal thermostat, lots of thermal intertia
[23:18:51] <katsmeow> msybe, but check the oem's spec's duty cycle for 15A
[23:19:06] <rue_bed> its a 200A welder
[23:19:17] <rue_bed> 100% duty goes to like 120A
[23:19:21] <katsmeow> so? might stillbe surpsingly low
[23:19:28] <katsmeow> ok
[23:19:42] <rue_bed> that was one of the selection params of the welder
[23:19:58] <rue_bed> not the max rating, but the continious rating
[23:20:25] <rue_bed> to this day, I'v never been able to use a weller soldering gun for 1 minute and leave it to cool for 5
[23:21:13] <rue_bed> am I crazy or was there not out, briefly, a ferrite high freq weller gun?
[23:21:32] <katsmeow> o put it down if it was too hot to hold, ditto the drill, grinder, arc welder rod clamp, etc
[23:21:41] <rue_bed> oooooh, I have that microwave core...
[23:21:41] <katsmeow> i dunno
[23:22:02] <katsmeow> btw, HF sells 3 spot welders now
[23:22:07] <rue_bed> 1500w soldering iron?
[23:22:21] <rue_bed> I have a spot welder
[23:22:26] <katsmeow> k
[23:27:01] <katsmeow> afk, brb
[23:30:11] <katsmeow> bak
[23:33:42] <katsmeow> on sale atm :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262271823460
[23:34:19] <katsmeow> for those days you want to work outside witout the molten metals keeping you warm
[23:44:37] <rue_bed> might try some aluminum casting if it dries up this winter
[23:45:26] <katsmeow> find enough scrap?