#garfield | Logs for 2016-09-22

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[00:00:01] <katsmeow> what's it run on, and can you use more memory, and add on more keywords?
[00:00:06] <rue_house> burritos?
[00:00:12] <rue_house> STMicroelectronics MCU (Arm Cortex-M7 running @ 216MHz), 256Mb of Alliance Memory DRAM (200Mhz, 64 Mbit, FBGA) and an Analog Devices HDMI transmitter for wirelessly outputting audio and video to any display.
[00:00:26] <rue_house> I dont know more, it was a summary
[00:00:41] <katsmeow> url?
[00:01:26] <katsmeow> Analog Devices HDMI transmitter for wirelessly outputting audio and video to any display. <<== even to my vga displays with db15 connectors and no wirelessly capabilities?
[00:01:37] <rue_house> search MEMWA2
[00:01:58] <rue_house> its prettymuch down to kraft or spagetti
[00:02:06] <rue_house> or a tripple pack of noodles
[00:02:18] <rue_house> I forgot to dig up potatoes this week
[00:02:19] <rue_house> arg
[00:02:33] <rue_house> kraft with katchup
[00:02:36] <rue_house> yea
[00:05:10] <rue_house> *ding*
[00:05:24] <katsmeow> http://www.staringlizard.com/2015/12/03/memwa-ii/ <<== so not a roaring success
[00:10:01] <rue_house> emulator sounds like crap
[00:10:11] <katsmeow> one reason you dont see many C64 hardware emulators is the 6502 ran 4 layers of microcode for each instruction (altho some ucode was null)
[00:10:15] <rue_house> why cant a 100+Mhz processor emulate a 1Mhz ?
[00:10:34] <rue_house> 4 cycles/instruction?
[00:10:44] <katsmeow> because it's trying to emulate the entire puter (minus the sid chip)
[00:11:01] <katsmeow> no, 4 cycles per each megahts
[00:11:22] <katsmeow> 1 clk = 4 ucode internally
[00:11:32] <rue_house> 1Mhz in the hardware is worth 150 in the emulator
[00:11:41] <rue_house> (a bird in the hand..)
[00:11:48] <katsmeow> 150:1 ? sounds awefully hight
[00:11:56] <rue_house> the 8051 was 12 cycles/instuction
[00:12:10] <rue_house> the new ones usually have a 6 cycle 'fast' mode
[00:12:12] <katsmeow> so was the 8086, 186, 286, etc
[00:12:31] <rue_house> 386 made most instructions 1 cycle
[00:12:31] <katsmeow> the 1mhx 6502 beat 12mhz 8086s
[00:15:45] <rue_house> the new 8051 can get 5 mips
[00:15:46] <rue_house> hmm
[00:15:53] <rue_house> the avrs can get 16mips
[00:16:28] <rue_house> I think the arm processors are 2 cycle, so 72Mhz, 36 mips
[00:16:33] <katsmeow> but, the 8051 runs from external ram, any avr that can do that is just as slow
[00:16:49] <rue_house> indeed, apples/oranges
[00:17:25] <rue_house> I need to do a controller for 8 servo loops, that operates 32 solinoids to 1/4Mhz timing
[00:17:58] <rue_house> I'm not sure how I want to build that hardware yet
[00:18:11] <katsmeow> usa ebay seller lying at me: says his ball bearings have no part numbers, and he has no data other than "bore" and OD
[00:18:16] <rue_house> with a 8051, thats 4 ports, that can be written to pretty quickly
[00:18:37] <rue_house> heh
[00:18:40] <katsmeow> 3 ports, there's tons of stuff hangng off the 4th
[00:19:11] <rue_house> 1bit/solinoid
[00:19:19] <rue_house> use 573 as latches
[00:19:46] <rue_house> the freq for the solinoids isn't high, the duty is small
[00:20:07] <rue_house> there is a lot of time to do calc, so you couldn almost just babysit the pwm
[00:21:45] <katsmeow> or 574, or 16574
[00:21:54] <katsmeow> 16374
[00:22:11] <katsmeow> DesignerThinking.com/ry/IMG_3415m.jpg
[00:22:22] <rue_house> http://DesignerThinking.com/ry/IMG_3415m.jpg
[00:22:28] <katsmeow> ok
[00:22:41] <rue_house> then I can click it
[00:22:45] <rue_house> whats cbm?
[00:22:53] <katsmeow> commodore business machines
[00:23:07] <rue_house> someone didn't do their versions right?
[00:23:11] <rue_house> both v2?
[00:23:24] <katsmeow> different BASICs
[00:23:35] <katsmeow> v2 of the version they were
[00:23:56] <rue_house> used to 6802?
[00:24:00] <rue_house> or 6502?
[00:24:28] <katsmeow> 6502 in VIC20 , 6510 in the C64 (6510 was a 6502 inside with a 6bit i/o port glued onto it
[00:42:37] <rue_house> hahah asweeet
[00:42:56] <rue_house> the stitch I did with the apolstrey thread and the shipping strap,
[00:43:01] <rue_house> I cant get it to break!
[00:43:07] <rue_house> mecha fingers here we come!
[00:43:30] <rue_house> 6 bit io port!?
[00:43:38] <rue_house> what did they use that for?
[00:44:50] <katsmeow> twiddling the memory mp and the tape drive, iirc
[00:44:56] <katsmeow> memry map
[00:45:05] <katsmeow> paging various things in and out of the 64k
[00:54:55] <rue_house> oh
[00:55:09] <rue_house> you means those funny pins on the ports on the back?
[00:55:48] <rue_house> that would explain why I could never find an io address for them
[00:58:21] <katsmeow> the main buss and the i/o buss?
[00:58:38] <katsmeow> .156 card edge connectors fit them
[00:58:41] <rue_house> there was something about a port on there that didn't add up
[00:58:44] <katsmeow> can still get them too
[00:59:32] <rue_house> so, why dont you reply to your emails eh? eh?? eh?
[01:00:09] <rue_house> I'm an hour late for bed :/
[01:01:02] <katsmeow> well, i was thinking of a shield more like a blanket
[01:01:16] <rue_house> ah
[01:02:12] <katsmeow> need one to protect the crew anyhow, neutron stars are pretty rough, or so i am told
[01:02:29] <rue_house> there is a symantic trick, where you reach the other end of a path so fast it dosn't matter where you were first, so you can place something on the other side before you get there.
[01:02:45] <katsmeow> and if it ever decompresses, you can kiss that solar system goodbye
[01:02:57] <rue_house> which is great for 2 end wormhole generators
[01:03:58] <rue_house> think its called temporal borrowing
[01:04:12] <rue_house> right up there with energy borrowing
[01:04:19] <rue_house> the trick is to give it all back after using it
[01:05:04] <rue_house> and be prepaired to pay for the inefficiency difference
[01:06:11] <rue_house> my bag of 2.048Mhz crystals is sittin on the desk inspring me
[01:07:11] <rue_house> so far i have 250Khz, 1Mhz 2.048Mhz, 4Mhz...
[01:07:18] <rue_house> the low freq ones are usefull
[01:07:29] <rue_house> er I have 500Khz too
[01:07:33] <rue_house> for switching power supplies
[01:07:49] <katsmeow> 500khz is fast for a switcher
[01:07:49] <rue_house> use the 4060 for them, and I have lots of freqs I can use for pwm
[01:07:56] <rue_house> 50% duty
[01:10:01] <rue_house> katsmeow, have you studdied how neurons work?
[01:10:13] * rue_house looks at the clock
[01:11:25] <katsmeow> not really
[01:11:56] <katsmeow> HEY GIVE ME A HALF HOUR TO ANSWER ALREADY!
[01:12:09] <rue_bed> hehe
[01:24:40] <katsmeow> brb, ggt
[01:53:52] <katsmeow> kool, i got "Bell, Book, and Candle" to go with "I Married A Witch" (1942 & Veronica Lake), which i have on vhs and in the puter
[01:55:14] <katsmeow> i have the editon of "I, Robot" with Lenard Nimoy in it, on vhs
[02:02:26] <katsmeow> i am passin gout, gotta goto bed
[21:31:26] <rue_shop3> The_Jester, and I'm awake
[22:23:45] <rue_shop3> ok, if nothng else I fixed up the iron
[22:23:51] <rue_shop3> got 1 driver board assembled
[22:24:14] <rue_shop3> Tom_itx, are the robotics and garfield log larger than 650M?
[22:24:37] <rue_shop3> hmm dvds are 1+G, and SD cards are larger