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[00:00:14] <rue_shop4> which was a realization from you saying 10 bit
[00:00:25] <katsmeow> so you will set your pwm to be the 2x width of the blank pulse?
[00:00:31] <rue_shop4> it SEEMS that I have different resolutions at different channels
[00:00:47] <katsmeow> how can it seem to be thatway?
[00:00:57] <rue_shop4> I dont know if these chips are faulty OR if this is a china knockoff that did something funkey with the dot correction method
[00:01:27] <rue_shop4> well, the blank is designed to happen at a count of 4096, but it can be 2048, or even 32
[00:01:37] <rue_shop4> you can cut back the value to whatever you want
[00:02:02] <rue_shop4> I programmed each channel to be at 1000, one at a time
[00:02:28] <rue_shop4> the duties that resulted varry from the expected from 0 to 100%
[00:02:29] <katsmeow> wait, you must clock in a pwm value constantly?
[00:02:36] <rue_shop4> the expected duty is 25%ish
[00:02:47] <rue_shop4> there is a clock for the pwm counter
[00:02:53] <rue_shop4> and anther signal to reset the counter
[00:02:59] <rue_shop4> the counter does NOT auto rollover
[00:03:02] <rue_shop4> (!?!??!?)
[00:03:34] <katsmeow> why are you using dot mode instead of grey-scale mode?
[00:03:42] <rue_shop4> right now I'm using a 4060 to generate the pwm counter clock and also the 1/4096th pulse
[00:03:53] <rue_shop4> I'm using greyscale mode
[00:04:24] <rue_shop4> but I think the dot correction trimmes or adusts the greyscale somehow on the chips I got (??)
[00:04:33] <rue_shop4> I'm still trying to figure out whats going wrong
[00:04:57] <rue_shop4> but, I'm betting if I set these up for 5 bit resolution, they behave properly
[00:05:30] <rue_shop4> (this has become a mission to figure out these chips, far off track from my application of them project)
[00:05:46] <rue_shop4> oh I got about 60% of the new roof on the greenhouse
[00:05:52] <rue_shop4> took all day
[00:05:57] <rue_shop4> (its night now)
[00:06:10] <rue_shop4> THIS stupid chip might take up all night
[00:12:18] <katsmeow> what happened to the ld roof (clear coroplast?) ?
[00:19:20] <rue_house> I used stuff called suntuff,
[00:19:45] <rue_house> the old stuff was UV resistant corriplast, which is 28 years old now, its translucent white
[00:19:51] <rue_house> not enough sun for the plants
[00:20:11] <rue_house> damnit, I need to take a burrito folding course
[00:20:27] <katsmeow> pretend it's a diaper
[00:20:44] <katsmeow> just roll the excess
[00:20:46] <rue_house> that excpalins the green stuff leaking out the bottom
[00:21:23] <rue_house> damnit Jim, I'm a doctor not a cook, and that burrito is SHOT!
[00:22:56] <rue_house> I have to agree Jim, that burrito is, as they say, shot.
[00:24:06] <katsmeow> poeple in northern Montana have (are are now) harvesting crops, you still have plants dying in a greenhouse?
[00:24:45] <rue_house> couldnt get it going, not enough light or ventillation
[00:24:55] <rue_house> so the top 12" opens now
[00:25:13] * katsmeow nods
[00:25:37] <katsmeow> hmm, run heat leaks from the boiler thru it , maybe you can grow year-round
[00:25:52] <rue_house> do you think I should use an air cylinder and a tank to exploit the heat expansion and have them auto open?
[00:26:20] <rue_house> that'd be an interesting math excersize
[00:26:33] <katsmeow> no, but propane instead, maybe
[00:26:37] <rue_house> force of opener, stroke, air volume
[00:26:50] <rue_house> cold volume vs hot volume
[00:27:04] <katsmeow> air doesn't pressurise much over 10F range
[00:27:31] <rue_house> hmm
[00:27:55] <katsmeow> got a propane pressure chart?
[00:28:09] <rue_house> I dont even have an air pressure chart
[00:29:03] <rue_house> I'm not even sure how much 10F is
[00:29:04] <katsmeow> i has one, and may are online somwhere
[00:29:13] <katsmeow> it's smaller than 10C
[00:29:14] <rue_house> I dont know what temp range is good for a greenhouse
[00:29:25] <katsmeow> depends on the crop
[00:29:37] <rue_house> marajua... tomatoes
[00:29:42] <katsmeow> there's variables all over the place, watch where you step
[00:30:30] <rue_house> we planted a pumpkin at th base of a terrace, and its making a run for it across the yard above
[00:31:05] <katsmeow> hmm, next ur, lant int he yard, see if they aim for going over the terrace
[00:31:20] * katsmeow loks for the ,, oh, outa internet ink
[00:32:23] <rue_house> its a pumpkin, it looks like it wants to climb, but it occurs to me that having pumpkins hanging from things could be dangerou
[00:32:51] <rue_house> SI2318 small transistor, may try to make it into a TO-92
[00:33:00] <katsmeow> yeas, you do haveto support each pumpkin separately
[00:33:50] <rue_house> 40V
[00:34:01] <rue_house> "2.4A"
[00:34:34] <rue_house> .058R
[00:35:05] <rue_house> +-20V gate
[00:35:12] <katsmeow> cool diy project: using a regular stainless steel plate, add 100's of grids and plates above it, seal in a stainless box, vaccuumm all air out, heat on a gas stove, operate as an integrated circuit
[00:35:24] <rue_house> this might be a solution to the TO-220 problem for my 1A driver
[00:35:47] <rue_house> stainless?
[00:35:59] <rue_house> it give up electrons?
[00:36:34] <rue_house> I wonder how hot things get facing the sun in space
[00:36:38] <katsmeow> it doesn't rust on the burner
[00:36:44] <rue_house> ah
[00:37:02] <katsmeow> hasto glow red hot for best efficency
[00:37:02] <rue_house> so operate them all common....
[00:37:04] <rue_house> uh
[00:37:06] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:37:12] <katsmeow> common cathode
[00:37:17] <rue_house> cathode, thanks
[00:38:04] <katsmeow> kind like if you were to make a flame triode, except you add more grids in a ring and separate plates outer from that
[00:38:09] <rue_house> how do I make a sot23 into a to-92?
[00:38:28] <rue_house> wait, i'll ask china
[00:39:18] <katsmeow> coat it with epoxy
[00:40:34] <rue_house> Tom_itx, how many to-23 to TO-92 adapters can be v-scored into a pcb plate?
[00:41:01] <rue_house> oops nevermind
[00:41:05] <rue_house> 100pcs for $4.50
[00:41:48] <rue_house> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100PCS-SOT23-SOT23-3-turn-SIP3-DIP-0-95-Pitch-Zener-Diode-MOS-Transistor-IC-adapter/2004244531.html
[00:41:59] <katsmeow> if you had the code to cnc that, you could click on <run> and drop the resuts in a envelope and postage it and profit $4
[00:44:07] <rue_house> while those are under way, I recon I should test one...
[00:50:40] <katsmeow> Sept 8 this yr will be 50 yrs since the first Star Trek aired
[00:53:15] <rue_shop4> hah, now thats a brain translant!.. image comming...
[00:58:04] <katsmeow> i wonder what shows are on now that will be as popular in 50 yrs from now, and on technology we have not considered yet
[00:58:56] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/elex/p1080336.jpg
[00:59:01] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tutorials/elex/p1080337.jpg
[00:59:06] <rue_house> eh? eh????
[00:59:10] <rue_house> :)
[00:59:15] <rue_house> key word, CARRIER
[00:59:59] <rue_house> I could have ground less of the to-92 off tho, didn't notice till I was that far
[00:59:59] <katsmeow> omd, if you bend the leads you will break the sot in pieces!
[01:00:15] <rue_house> we will see!
[01:00:39] <rue_house> hmmm, if I want to test as an H bridge, I'lll need 4
[01:01:30] <rue_house> so, like that, its S, D, G
[01:01:38] <rue_house> way to go rue, backwards as all hell
[01:13:32] <rue_shop4> well I broke teeth in the gearbox, so I cant argue much there
[01:14:19] <katsmeow> hmm?
[01:16:00] <rue_shop4> its works great in the bridge driver, just checking with two
[01:20:40] <rue_shop4> k, well, 0.18V drop vs 0.3V drop, low and high side N channels respectivly
[01:21:11] <rue_shop4> thats driving the gates at 12V, if I drive the high side gate at 17V, it should be the same as the low side
[01:21:13] <rue_shop4> or 18
[01:21:16] <rue_shop4> anyhow
[01:21:41] <rue_shop4> those teeny fets work close enough to the irfz44's to call it good
[01:22:18] <rue_shop4> maybe I should design an 8 pin dip H bridge around them
[01:23:00] <rue_shop4> + - outA outB gateAhigh gateAlow gateBhigh, gateBlow
[01:23:05] <rue_shop4> thats 8
[01:23:14] <katsmeow> and pwr and gnd
[01:23:19] <rue_shop4> +-
[01:23:22] <katsmeow> o
[01:23:27] <rue_shop4> no fet drivers
[01:23:49] <rue_shop4> :) wouldn't they hate me for trying to make a dip10
[01:24:07] <rue_shop4> tho, I suppose a sip wouldn't be shunned
[01:25:07] <rue_shop4> :( I broke teeth in the servo tho
[01:25:33] <rue_shop4> its not that its $3, its that I have to fix it now
[01:25:39] <katsmeow> i didn't know that was possible
[01:25:49] <rue_shop4> I gutted the servo
[01:26:04] <rue_shop4> 5 wries, +- motor, and 3 for pot
[01:26:17] <rue_shop4> thats what the pwm chip is for
[01:26:29] <rue_shop4> I'm making a board to operate 8 servos
[01:26:40] <rue_shop4> with position feedback and current control
[01:40:28] <katsmeow> so if a led can be a photodetector, why can't you glue two lcd screens face-to-face and make a state machine?
[01:40:52] <katsmeow> err, led screens
[01:41:01] <katsmeow> or an lcd and a led
[01:42:12] <rue_shop4> the led screens are lcd with an led backlight instead of a flourescent one
[01:42:19] <rue_shop4> from what I'v seen
[01:42:32] <katsmeow> even the very early ones?
[01:42:49] <rue_shop4> oh, hmmm
[01:43:03] <rue_shop4> what logic gates can you make?
[01:43:13] <rue_shop4> sorry kat, I need some sleep
[01:43:19] <katsmeow> ok, gnites
[01:43:26] <rue_shop4> been up since stupid-oclock with the brirds
[21:11:33] <Tom_itx> rue_house, do pci parports need drivers for dos?
[21:11:41] <Tom_itx> what about pcie?
[21:11:59] <Tom_itx> or does the bios handle that
[21:12:27] <Tom_itx> i want to configure one for lpt2
[21:12:38] <Tom_itx> i forget the address 3f8?
[21:12:45] <Tom_itx> 3bc?
[21:12:50] <Tom_itx> 2f8?
[21:47:19] <rue_shop4> no drivers
[21:47:36] <rue_shop4> depends on th e card
[21:48:08] <rue_shop4> pnp cards will use ports like 3800
[22:32:59] <Tom_itx> do you know of any that work for sure with dos?
[22:33:19] <Tom_itx> chipsets etc
[22:33:23] <Tom_itx> to look for
[22:42:24] * katsmeow-afk is still moving groceries around
[23:32:59] <rue_shop4> hey
[23:33:07] <rue_shop4> I got the greenhouse roof finished up
[23:33:13] <rue_shop4> but forgot to take pics before dark
[23:33:21] <rue_shop4> Tom_itx, they all work with dos
[23:33:31] <rue_shop4> what is it, a pnp card on an onboard?
[23:33:48] <rue_shop4> katsmeow, hi
[23:33:53] <katsmeow> hi rue
[23:34:35] <katsmeow> did you see the ebay item that looks like a feather, being sold as a cpu fan?
[23:34:43] <rue_shop4> hah, no
[23:34:52] <rue_shop4> someones mass listing script get mixed up again?
[23:36:03] <katsmeow> i sent you the url n email
[23:36:12] <rue_shop4> I'v not checked my email yet
[23:36:29] <katsmeow> 4 days ago
[23:36:46] <rue_shop4> apparently this vaccation is flying by quickly
[23:37:31] <rue_shop4> I honestly dont know what happened to saturday and sunday
[23:38:01] <rue_shop4> I need more time
[23:38:17] <rue_shop4> during the work week I'm too tired after work to do much of anything
[23:38:21] <rue_shop4> ooo dizzy
[23:38:29] <rue_shop4> I should eat
[23:38:32] <rue_shop4> .. and pee
[23:38:39] <rue_shop4> and check my email
[23:38:49] <katsmeow> how is it a vacation if you still engage in a work week?
[23:40:40] <katsmeow> ================
[23:40:43] <katsmeow> Date sent: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:40:57 -0500
[23:40:43] <katsmeow> Can you see what the pinout is on this fan?
[23:40:43] <katsmeow> Or how fast it should be operated to keep the cpu cool?
[23:40:43] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm//262452154511
[23:40:46] <katsmeow> ================
[23:41:34] <katsmeow> hmm, that was yesterday, you're right, time is acting wierd
[23:41:40] <rue_house> oh lots of emails
[23:41:50] <rue_house> I'm not working this week
[23:42:02] <rue_house> thats why ther eis a new roof on the greenhouse
[23:43:20] <rue_house> ok its 12V
[23:43:33] <rue_house> its wire appears to be endless
[23:43:59] <rue_house> it says 4 pins, but I dont see them
[23:44:11] <rue_house> I think this is part of a display fan
[23:44:13] <rue_house> :)
[23:44:59] <rue_house> I suspect 3Ghz is the speed required to cool a intel processor
[23:45:18] * katsmeow logs all th is info
[23:46:02] <rue_house> oh, I wonder if the fan comes with 4 pins
[23:46:06] <rue_house> that they didn't show
[23:46:31] <katsmeow> it's a puzzle, for sure
[23:47:17] <katsmeow> you should be proud of me, i did NOT buy 1.2 farads of 63v electrolytics for $6 today
[23:47:52] <rue_house> hey I was just saying you seem to have a fascination with caps like I have with displays and buttons
[23:48:19] <katsmeow> heh, you have not seen the knob and button collection here
[23:48:55] <rue_house> I have to activly stop myself from buying such things
[23:50:11] <katsmeow> but 1024 pcs of 1200ufd electrolytics, a real instant recharging UPS power source with seconds of power to toggle in relays of backup power
[23:50:28] <katsmeow> 1,200,000 ufd
[23:51:03] <rue_house> hahah they will not let me write to that seller!
[23:51:31] <katsmeow> why not?
[23:51:48] <rue_house> they just say 'sorry'
[23:55:28] <rue_house> Greetings, I would like to ask if you could show the 4 pins that come with item number 262452154511
[23:55:29] <rue_house> I would also like to know if this fan can be operated on sunflower seeds instead of the 12V listed.
[23:55:29] <rue_house> Thankyou, have a nice day
[23:56:22] <rue_house> :) thanks for the laugh kat
[23:56:34] <katsmeow> it's a turkey on meth
[23:56:39] <katsmeow> <curtsey>
[23:56:40] <rue_house> hahah
