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[01:45:02] <zhanx> Evening
[02:46:31] <rue_house> idonob, oh yes, I remember
[02:46:40] <rue_house> idonob, what kinda things are you interested in?
[05:54:13] <idonob> rue_house: Always loved taking things apart and figuring out how they work or could be reused
[05:55:16] <idonob> rue_house: started learning the finer points of reverse engineering over the last seven or eight years, or more particularily how much I don't know
[06:02:10] <idonob> a peek at the channels I'm lurking in via /whois probably gives a fair taste of my general interests
[22:52:44] <katsmeow> dead channel ?
[23:01:34] <zhanx> Evening
[23:03:40] <rue_house> hey
[23:03:52] <rue_house> kat might come back if we email her
[23:03:59] <rue_house> dont know how long she was here
[23:04:11] <zhanx> Ok
[23:04:35] <zhanx> I was thrifty today
[23:04:44] <zhanx> Got free printers
[23:04:56] <rue_house> goood show
[23:05:28] <rue_house> I just realized the votlage/current montior I got for my alternator is useless cause it measures ground current
[23:05:33] <rue_house> with a shunt
[23:06:05] <zhanx> That and did my chores, changed 100 gallons of fish tank water
[23:06:22] <rue_house> oh yea the fish tank
[23:06:27] <rue_house> grrr
[23:06:27] <zhanx> Found babies in my 29 gallon tank today
[23:06:36] <rue_house> :-S
[23:06:36] <zhanx> Tanks
[23:06:55] <rue_house> did you find somewhere to put them that nobody will find?
[23:07:20] <zhanx> I got 143 gallons of tanks in the house
[23:07:37] <zhanx> Well the babies are in my plant tank
[23:07:38] <rue_house> remember to put a warning on it now that you wont be responcible for children falling into the tank
[23:08:02] <zhanx> Well the 55 gallon tank is low
[23:08:28] * rue_house gives up on the joke
[23:08:48] <rue_house> I need to design a gripper that can easily pick up landscaping blocks
[23:08:52] <zhanx> Fyi 55 gallon tank has the oscars
[23:09:07] <zhanx> 10" fish
[23:09:21] <rue_house> I'v not worked out if I have 2 of the same sex fish or not
[23:09:45] <zhanx> While my fish are having kids
[23:09:58] <rue_house> if they are, then for their sake I hope their homo, cause there aint no more goin in
[23:10:01] <zhanx> Rue has fish that are Transgender
[23:10:40] <rue_house> LAST FISH
[23:11:11] <zhanx> Ok
[23:11:14] <rue_house> 7" goldfish
[23:11:20] <rue_house> 2 pcs
[23:11:32] <zhanx> 7" goldfish, I have 5 of them
[23:11:33] <rue_house> about 9 years old?
[23:11:43] <zhanx> 5 months
[23:12:20] <zhanx> I grow things fast remember
[23:14:58] <Tom_itx> rue_house, Z gripper like the construction ppl use to move those concrete road blocks
[23:15:22] <rue_house> ...?
[23:15:33] <Tom_itx> <rue_house> I need to design a gripper that can easily pick up landscaping blocks
[23:15:33] <zhanx> Geared?
[23:16:07] <rue_house> yea I dont know what you mean... searching
[23:16:52] <rue_house> servopnaumatic actuators
[23:17:06] <zhanx> Well here comes the 0% chance of rain again
[23:17:17] <Tom_itx> http://tech-nergi.com/img/outils/PinceSJ600.jpg
[23:17:29] <rue_house> http://img.youtube.com/vi/lf9XHMR_kOA/0.jpg
[23:17:43] <rue_house> oh, its for a robotarm tho
[23:18:08] <Tom_itx> http://miniature-construction-world.co.uk/Arrivals/Corgi/intasite/IMG_3349.jpg
[23:18:38] <rue_house> ok, I'd like something less practical and more epic
[23:18:51] <Tom_itx> http://www.downscrane.com/images/Tongs/Die_Block_Tong.gif
[23:19:23] <Tom_itx> they used them for ice blocks years ago too
[23:19:27] <rue_house> kinda, but.. robot hand
[23:19:38] <Tom_itx> https://img0.etsystatic.com/023/0/5999680/il_570xN.482537932_3kwe.jpg
[23:19:43] <Tom_itx> principle is not new
[23:19:49] <Tom_itx> and logs
[23:19:53] <Tom_itx> you should know that one
[23:19:58] <rue_house> yea yea but...
[23:20:17] <Tom_itx> what's common about them all?
[23:20:22] <Tom_itx> the leverage points
[23:23:21] <Tom_itx> http://www.caldwellinc.com/rig-master/concrete-grabs-tongs
[23:23:24] <Tom_itx> take your pick
[23:23:27] <rue_house> your right, but its not a good fit for the robot arm
[23:23:45] <Tom_itx> all it needs is a hook
[23:24:05] <Tom_itx> and maybe a cable release
[23:25:31] <rue_house> http://www.horroronscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/Aliens-screenshot-544x309px-544x250.jpg
[23:25:35] <rue_house> how about grippers like that
[23:25:36] <rue_house> ?
[23:26:10] <Tom_itx> that's a bit overkill for the task
[23:26:29] <Tom_itx> mine requires no hydraulics
[23:26:36] <Tom_itx> no human intervention
[23:26:36] <rue_house> no, your pullic a goodle and ignoring the word epic
[23:26:44] <rue_house> google
[23:26:47] <rue_house> ugh
[23:26:58] <rue_house> your pulling a google and ignoring words
[23:27:16] <rue_house> the pipe bender is close
[23:27:29] <Tom_itx> does it look like that too?
[23:27:41] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1080163.jpg..
[23:27:44] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/sparrow1/p1080163.jpg
[23:28:18] <Tom_itx> did you make the rollers?
[23:28:18] <rue_house> top right is the vacuum former project
[23:28:20] <rue_house> yea
[23:28:29] <rue_house> that you see there is 4 years work
[23:28:30] <rue_house> :(
[23:28:32] <Tom_itx> where's the screenprint project?
[23:28:45] <rue_house> not in that pic
[23:28:59] <Tom_itx> what pulls the tube thru the rollers?
[23:30:04] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yigRgG_NIyU
[23:30:07] <Tom_itx> you need one of those
[23:32:15] <rue_house> see the sprockets?
[23:32:20] <rue_house> I hvae timign chain for them
[23:32:21] <Tom_itx> yep
[23:32:32] <rue_house> and a 2hp motor with a MEAN gearbox
[23:32:43] <Tom_itx> big reduction
[23:32:43] <rue_house> it was from an industrial shredder
[23:32:59] <rue_house> someone put a crowbar thru it and the teeth didn't survive
[23:33:12] <rue_house> but I landed the motor
[23:33:26] <Tom_itx> not 3phase?
[23:33:37] <Tom_itx> you got lucky there if it isn't
[23:33:41] <rue_house> those are just tack welds, I have to finish designing it
[23:33:48] <rue_house> its signle phase
[23:33:52] <rue_house> capacitor run
[23:33:59] <rue_house> big mean caps
[23:34:06] <Tom_itx> most industrial stuff is gonna be 3phase
[23:34:06] <rue_house> but a relativly small mtoor
[23:34:18] <rue_house> its 120V single phase
[23:34:31] <rue_house> I wont be loading it much really
[23:35:01] <rue_house> I have to design a screw-down system for it yet
[23:35:08] <rue_house> zhanx, ideas? tom?
[23:35:29] <Tom_itx> the frame is gonna require more strength than you know
[23:35:40] <rue_house> thats 1/2" plate
[23:35:51] <rue_house> the 4 uprights are being pulled on
[23:35:58] <rue_house> I'm gonna add corss braces later
[23:36:22] <rue_house> when done, it'll sit on its side and bend the pipe across a table surface
[23:36:36] <Tom_itx> the force is on the middle roller supports
[23:36:36] <rue_house> right now I have an alignment issue
[23:36:42] <rue_house> yea
[23:36:47] <rue_house> pulling on those pipes
[23:37:03] <rue_house> I'm hoping the aluminum rollers stay togethor
[23:37:28] <Tom_itx> the roll form guys next to my bud's shop use progressive steel rollers
[23:37:30] <rue_house> if they split, I'll just redeign the cage, its 3 years overdue already
[23:37:49] <rue_house> dont have funds for a $10000 roll bender
[23:38:02] <rue_house> or enough for getting the shop with one to do it for me
[23:38:10] <rue_house> $240 robot
[23:38:32] <rue_house> thats a tool, so its not on the same budget
[23:38:41] <rue_house> but thats only about $60 right now
[23:39:24] <Tom_itx> those paper towels are a fire hazzard
[23:39:37] <rue_house> how so?
[23:39:47] <Tom_itx> where are you welding?
[23:39:52] <rue_house> not in the shop!
[23:40:06] <rue_house> I have a bench outside the shop
[23:40:12] <rue_house> not against it
[23:41:50] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/mecha1/p1070519.jpg
[23:41:54] <rue_house> far left of that pic
[23:41:59] <rue_house> the red table
[23:42:04] <Tom_itx> ignoreing the cost, i was quite impressed with that cnc tubing bender
[23:42:18] <rue_house> yea
[23:42:46] <Tom_itx> yard orniment?
[23:42:48] <rue_house> I was thinking it would be fun to make a cnc wire bender
[23:43:01] <rue_house> it was a "DO SOMETHING!" project
[23:43:04] <rue_house> all scrap
[23:43:09] <Tom_itx> springs are done that way
[23:43:13] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/mecha1/p1080051.jpg
[23:43:26] <rue_house> its all painted now
[23:43:33] <rue_house> I suppose another pic is in order
[23:43:42] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/mecha1/p1080049.jpg
[23:43:54] <rue_house> scrap plywood, scrap pipe, scrap scrap scrap
[23:44:01] <rue_house> all bits I had no use for
[23:44:17] <rue_house> except the plexiglass turned out to be lexan
[23:44:22] <rue_house> :(
[23:44:29] <Tom_itx> what do your neighbors think of you?
[23:44:56] <rue_house> I dont know, I'v told them my number if they need me to keep it down or soemthing
[23:45:00] <rue_house> they have never called
[23:45:35] <rue_house> I'v fixed their mower a few times (regular gas, empty the water out of the tank)
[23:45:38] <Tom_itx> maybe they're afraid they'll come up missing
[23:45:56] <rue_house> I was alrady here when they moved in, for what its worth
[23:46:25] <rue_house> I learned a lot making that tho
[23:46:37] <rue_house> its not too far off from being plausable to walk
[23:46:46] <rue_house> if the joints moved
[23:47:02] <rue_house> there were a few I skipped, but with them it'd be verry plausable
[23:47:27] <rue_house> it came out about a foot taller than it was supposed to, all my projects seem to do that