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[00:10:33] <rue_bed> I'm pondering a new cnc machine
[00:11:00] <rue_bed> have you seen those round abrasive tile blades for hacksaws?
[00:11:09] <rue_bed> its like a sandy cable
[00:11:42] <katsmeow> those been around forever
[00:11:42] <rue_bed> I'm thinking of a cnc machine that is an R-Theta machine and can just cut out profiles
[00:12:09] <rue_bed> you give it a 2d path and put the material into a kinda deep C clamp
[00:12:23] <rue_bed> and it cuts it out
[00:13:17] <rue_bed> to that effect, I suppose the blade could move for the radius and the clamp could rotate the work
[00:13:17] <katsmeow> like a jigsaw, but with the round diamond rope?
[00:13:21] <rue_bed> yea
[00:14:01] <katsmeow> easy enough to do, if you need that
[00:14:07] <rue_bed> I DO cut a lot of things out it seems
[00:15:33] <rue_bed> if I'm writing a CAM program anyhow, its not a big deal
[00:16:17] <rue_bed> Tom_itx, zhanx ?
[00:16:42] <katsmeow> building it will give you welding expereince, to use heavy metal to keepthe rope tight
[00:17:32] <zhanx> Yes?
[00:18:33] <katsmeow> afaik, yo cannot really use a diamond rope like abandsaw, it will cut thru it's own pullies
[00:19:24] <rue_house> I could make it fit one of the hacksaw ones
[00:19:25] <katsmeow> a rope got a lot of tv time when cutting thru pipe of the last oil spill
[00:19:47] <katsmeow> on aRUV
[00:19:54] <katsmeow> URV?
[00:19:54] <rue_house> make it like one of the saws with the sprung top bar and oscillates pulling the bottom
[00:20:03] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:20:25] <rue_house> http://www.harborfreight.com/the-incredible-blade-carbide-cutting-rods-pack-of-2-96274.html
[00:21:22] <rue_house> ah, scroll saw design
[00:21:38] <rue_house> http://www.harborfreight.com/16-inch-variable-speed-scroll-saw-93012.html
[00:22:04] <rue_house> geez, too bad we dont have a haubour freight out here
[00:23:11] <rue_house> slide the scroll saw in and out for radius and have the work clamp rotate it
[00:41:15] <any92657743> isp cut out again, the usual midnite event
[00:57:56] <any92657743> love may be a many splintered thing, but sand it and use polyurethane anyhow
[01:00:34] <rue_shop5> hmm
[01:21:42] <any92657743> i think it's bedtime
[07:15:14] <Tom_itx> rue_bed, google WEDM and you'll have your 'diamond rope' cutter
[07:15:28] <Tom_itx> that's what you really want
[07:16:18] <Tom_itx> thing about those is they are independently driven
[07:16:36] <Tom_itx> ie you can cut a circle on top while the bottom is cutting a square
[07:17:08] <Tom_itx> more accurately than your mill
[11:15:53] <rue_house> tom, nono,
http://www.harborfreight.com/the-incredible-blade-carbide-cutting-rods-pack-of-2-96274.html
[11:15:55] <rue_house> those
[15:02:20] <Tom_itx> yeah i know what you meant. i've seen EDM and it works quite amazingly
[15:14:13] <rue_shop5> :) not on plastic...
[15:25:06] <Tom_itx> having a hardware struggle with old vs new hardware
[15:25:27] <Tom_itx> trying to clone this old drive to a newer one that will still work on that pc
[15:25:56] <rue_shop5> yea, I have a parallel port device that uses two steppers, I have a m328 and a usb-serial converter, but no software
[15:26:34] <Tom_itx> and i don't care for old utilities that give no indication of doing anything
[15:26:44] <Tom_itx> but the hdd light is on
[15:29:37] <rue_shop5> ?
[15:30:51] <Tom_itx> copying images from one to the other
[15:31:02] <Tom_itx> partition magic
[15:31:23] <Tom_itx> had a utility to copy partitions
[15:31:30] <rue_shop5> for ( i = 0; i <= longest; i+=(longest/(this->motionSteps-1))) {
[15:31:34] <Tom_itx> never tried it but ghost didn't wanna work
[15:31:44] <Tom_itx> said there was a chkkdsk bit set
[15:31:48] <rue_shop5> my interpolator should use used increment distance instead of step per motion
[15:31:50] <Tom_itx> never heard of that one.... ever
[15:32:36] <Tom_itx> G90 is incremental
[15:32:53] <rue_shop5> I'm not using grbl to control a stepper based mirror!
[15:33:54] <Tom_itx> wonder how long to wait on this before deciding it didn't work
[15:34:34] <Tom_itx> oooo.... it just reset
[15:34:52] <rue_shop5> it might be banging is head repeatedly against a bad sector
[15:35:02] <Tom_itx> yeah
[15:35:06] <Tom_itx> it is rebooting now
[15:35:09] <Tom_itx> it said it might
[15:35:16] <rue_shop5> remember, ms had backups of the fat, but didn't have any software to acutually use the backups
[15:35:42] <rue_shop5> only 3rd party software can use the fat backups to recover the fs
[15:36:30] <Tom_itx> ok now it gives some indication of life
[15:36:31] <rue_shop5> stepsize
[15:36:46] <Tom_itx> did you get the cnc worked out?
[15:36:58] <rue_shop5> I just have to put a cutter on it
[15:37:12] <Tom_itx> what sort of spindle does it have?
[15:37:16] <rue_shop5> I have a dewalt drywall cutter that I dont really wanna use
[15:37:30] <Tom_itx> too high rpm
[15:37:33] <Tom_itx> will burn cutters
[15:37:36] <rue_shop5> I also have a knockoff dremel I dont want to use
[15:37:38] <rue_shop5> yea thats why
[15:37:43] <Tom_itx> both will
[15:37:53] <rue_shop5> I'd like a high rpm drill
[15:37:59] <Tom_itx> 6 of 7...
[15:38:02] <rue_shop5> 3k or so
[15:38:20] <Tom_itx> unless you feed it proper you will burn up cutters right away
[15:38:35] <Tom_itx> that's high rpm for a drill
[15:38:43] <rue_shop5> 3k as a top speed, the old machine has a custom motor with tach
[15:38:58] <rue_shop5> I mean 3k as a top limit
[15:39:03] <Tom_itx> i ended up with a spare spindle motor
[15:39:14] <rue_shop5> I wonder what I run my old one at...
[15:39:23] <Tom_itx> remember the one i twisted the rotor on and pulled the wires loose from the commutator?
[15:39:30] <Tom_itx> i got it all fixed and working again
[15:40:21] <Tom_itx> i sure hope this is bootable when it's done
[15:40:31] <Tom_itx> i don't like messing with dual boot systems much
[15:41:31] <Tom_itx> i remember that linux drive i cloned and you talked me thru fixing the boot on it
[15:41:51] <rue_shop5> 3.2k
[15:42:13] <Tom_itx> my spindle is ~5k top
[15:42:34] <Tom_itx> pid loop so it stays pretty constant
[15:43:25] <rue_shop5> the range is 570rpm to 5600
[15:43:55] <Tom_itx> i don't remember the bottom effective range on mine
[15:44:01] <rue_shop5> er 3600 sorry
[15:44:17] <Tom_itx> ~150rpm iirc
[15:44:39] <rue_shop5> any lower than 570 on mine and the controller gets unstable, same with over 3600
[15:45:19] <Tom_itx> i added stuff for PID runaway on drastic changes like reverse etc
[15:45:40] <Tom_itx> i can't recall what it was now but linuxcnc had a command that fixed that
[15:46:10] <Tom_itx> so the p i d vars didn't get out of hand too quickly
[15:48:25] <rue_shop5> mines controlled by a TL494 :)
[15:48:31] <rue_shop5> it thinks its a power supply
[15:49:53] <rue_shop5> cmon brain wake up....
[15:50:46] <Tom_itx> the waiting to find you did it wrong is a killer
[15:51:20] <Tom_itx> i'm kinda liking my new mb setup
[15:51:40] <rue_shop5> I'm partly excited about het new cnc, but I need software to run it
[15:51:41] <Tom_itx> i can plug an old hdd in the usb and copy stuff over
[15:52:03] <Tom_itx> i have been suggesting some software for you for quite a while
[15:52:10] <rue_shop5> thats the CAM computer or the EMC?
[15:52:18] <Tom_itx> huh?
[15:52:26] <Tom_itx> oh i have catia on it
[15:52:27] <rue_shop5> the ocmputer your working on
[15:52:35] <Tom_itx> 64bit win7
[15:52:38] <rue_shop5> oh
[15:52:45] <Tom_itx> the old p166 is dos and windows NT
[15:52:46] <rue_shop5> thought it was the one that runs your machine
[15:52:51] <Tom_itx> that's what i'm working on
[15:52:55] <Tom_itx> no
[15:53:05] <Tom_itx> that's a separate itx
[15:53:08] <rue_shop5> yea, I cant have the labour of maintaining a windows machine just for cam software
[15:53:10] <Tom_itx> running linux
[15:53:54] <Tom_itx> too much time will pass before you've got a working linux one
[15:54:05] <rue_shop5> we will see
[15:54:37] <rue_shop5> I dont think it'll take me long to get it going enough to give it points and have it convet into drill operations
[15:55:08] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Simple_LinuxCNC_G-Code_Generators
[15:55:14] <Tom_itx> there's a start for you
[15:55:18] <rue_shop5> been there
[15:55:25] <rue_shop5> most of them are dead projects that dont work
[15:55:30] <rue_shop5> the rest take in STL files
[15:55:33] <Tom_itx> and the stuff JT wrote on his site
[15:55:37] <Tom_itx> i don't like stl files
[15:55:50] <rue_shop5> no, not for most of the stuff I want to do
[15:56:10] <Tom_itx> maybe fine for glue guns
[15:56:15] <rue_shop5> I want DXF->gcode cam software
[15:56:30] <rue_shop5> or really complex shaping
[15:56:33] <Tom_itx> that's what he was doing last
[15:56:38] <Tom_itx> you should ask him
[15:56:52] <rue_shop5> oh I did talk to him
[15:56:54] <Tom_itx> parsing a dxf to gcode
[15:56:57] <rue_shop5> you pointed me there last time
[15:57:14] <rue_shop5> there was a problem tho, I cant remmeber what it was
[15:57:14] <Tom_itx> http://gnipsel.com/files/mill-g-code/
[15:57:43] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure where he hides all his stuff
[16:03:26] <rue_shop5> ok I ahve a maximum step distance, and I have to travel a distance using it
[16:03:54] <rue_shop5> so I need to know the closest fit that involves steps smaller or equal to the max step distance
[16:05:23] <Tom_itx> it's either 94 83 or 84% done
[16:06:58] <rue_shop5> what if its 94% of 83% of 84%?
[16:07:31] <Tom_itx> entire progress 95%, partition copy 90% data copy 93%
[16:08:02] <Tom_itx> i would assume they all hit 100 at the same time
[16:08:59] <Tom_itx> nope
[16:09:03] <Tom_itx> data hit 100
[16:09:11] <Tom_itx> partition is 97
[16:09:22] <Tom_itx> oh now we're checking stuff
[16:10:00] <Tom_itx> always good to check your homework before turning it in
[16:10:19] <rue_shop5> unless its 3am
[16:14:48] <Tom_itx> how can i get rid of the linux image that keeps popping up on this drive?
[16:15:01] <Tom_itx> GRUB loading, please wait...
[16:15:04] <rue_shop5> image = data or actual image
[16:15:05] <Tom_itx> ERROR 17
[16:15:17] <rue_shop5> WHY are you trying to do a split boot anyhow
[16:15:20] <Tom_itx> it was a linux install
[16:15:22] <Tom_itx> i'm not
[16:15:28] <rue_shop5> spit boot is how you speel trouble
[16:15:30] <Tom_itx> i thought i erased it all
[16:15:38] <Tom_itx> it should have been blank
[16:15:56] <rue_shop5> microsoft dosn't know how to rewrite the boot sector, they just assume its default
[16:15:56] <Tom_itx> how can i make sure it's blank of linux?
[16:16:05] <rue_shop5> it dosn't have linux on it
[16:16:07] <rue_shop5> its got grub
[16:16:11] <Tom_itx> right
[16:16:16] <Tom_itx> so how do i get rid of that
[16:16:27] <rue_shop5> you have to do the fdisk command that writes the boot block
[16:16:35] <Tom_itx> i thought i did
[16:16:40] <Tom_itx> unless i don't know what that is
[16:16:42] <rue_shop5> fdisk -mbr?
[16:16:46] <rue_shop5> or soemthing like that?
[16:17:05] <Tom_itx> i'll try
[16:17:21] <rue_shop5> the microsoft article on it says you have to use linux to fix it
[16:20:24] <Tom_itx> parameters not correct
[16:20:46] <rue_shop5> that one googles pretty well
[16:21:41] <rue_shop5> its a split boot drive?
[16:21:49] <Tom_itx> dos/nt
[16:22:04] <rue_shop5> so what is doing the booting?
[16:22:08] <rue_shop5> nt?
[16:22:14] <Tom_itx> it's not booting anything
[16:22:22] <rue_shop5> mt drive?
[16:24:16] <rue_shop5> I thougth you had all the data already copied to the drive?
[16:24:26] <Tom_itx> i do now
[16:24:31] <Tom_itx> just trying to get it to boot
[16:24:47] <rue_shop5> ok, then you need to get NT to install its bootloader
[16:25:01] <Tom_itx> seems to be working now
[16:25:02] <rue_shop5> or use grub to do the split booting
[16:25:05] <Tom_itx> fdisk /mbr
[16:25:11] <rue_shop5> there ya go
[16:25:18] <Tom_itx> trying the dual boot now
[16:26:00] <Tom_itx> old hdd unplugged
[16:26:06] <Tom_itx> cross your fingers
[16:26:27] <rue_shop5> its microsoft,
[16:26:34] <Tom_itx> seems ok
[16:27:07] <Tom_itx> bak in a few
[16:27:58] <rue_shop5> yay I have code that works a step size
[16:59:02] <rue_shop5> ok on a walk removing deadwood from the evergreens I was thinking about it, and this change to my interpolator was something I wanted but couldn't work out at the time
[17:00:37] <rue_shop5> ya know, the next part would be to make the step size multidimensional instead of just the master axis
[17:01:11] <rue_shop5> I'll make it a comment and leave it for version 4
[17:12:25] <Tom_itx> what is HPFS partition?
[17:12:35] <rue_shop5> its the new windows one
[17:12:39] <rue_shop5> one of them
[17:12:42] <rue_shop5> they keep changing
[17:12:44] <Tom_itx> huh it can't be
[17:12:48] <Tom_itx> it's old software
[17:12:54] <Tom_itx> before it was even heard of
[17:13:11] <rue_shop5> then its probably a misdetetion
[17:13:28] <Tom_itx> it was done by partition magic
[17:14:27] <Tom_itx> i'll resize them a bit so i can have some room
[17:14:35] <Tom_itx> naw...
[17:14:43] <Tom_itx> i think i'll try to get a 2.5" working on this now
[17:15:04] <Tom_itx> so i'll have some options next time
[17:15:07] <rue_shop5> This last week I'v become quite concerned
[17:15:19] <rue_shop5> I always thought I never get anything done cause I'm burned out from work
[17:15:20] <Tom_itx> the problem is, they don't have master slave jumpers
[17:15:31] <Tom_itx> and the old bios want's to see that i think
[17:15:31] <rue_shop5> I'v learned that I'm only good for 6hrs max before I'm exhausted
[17:15:35] <Tom_itx> any way around that?
[17:15:48] <Tom_itx> ur gettin old
[17:15:59] <rue_shop5> I cant get nothin done
[17:16:10] <Tom_itx> i gave up on alot of stuff
[17:16:12] <Tom_itx> because of that
[17:16:22] <rue_shop5> turning myself into a machine is gonna be a lot of work, and I dont know there is enough runway left
[17:16:38] <rue_shop5> I'd better git with the automation
[17:16:44] <Tom_itx> i'm doing the catia to keep the brain stimulated
[17:17:16] <Tom_itx> i may never use it as an occupation
[17:17:41] <Tom_itx> i think it would pay pretty well though
[17:18:03] <Tom_itx> no disk errors on boot now.. yay
[17:18:12] <Tom_itx> new drive seems to be working better
[17:19:36] <Tom_itx> dos must be able to read 2G
[17:19:56] <Tom_itx> that's the size it picked for it
[17:21:09] <Tom_itx> what would be cool is to find a dos utility that utilized USB flash drives to read / write
[17:21:22] <Tom_itx> although this has no usb on it
[17:21:35] <Tom_itx> a newer mb might work on it though
[17:23:46] <rue_shop5> I'm much larger than my cat, so why am I losing this turf war for THE CHAIR I'M SITTING IN
[17:24:10] <rue_shop5> the machine will prolly run faster with the happy drive
[17:24:20] <Tom_itx> yeah
[17:24:35] <Tom_itx> any ideas about the 2.5 with no jumpers?
[17:24:45] <Tom_itx> probably set for cable select
[17:24:51] <rue_shop5> <Tom_itx> how big a drive did dos see?
[17:24:51] <rue_shop5> <Tom_itx> err old pc's
[17:24:51] <rue_shop5> <Tom_itx> bios
[17:24:51] <rue_shop5> <Tom_itx> iirc it's a P166
[17:24:52] <rue_shop5> <Tom_itx> pretty darn old
[17:24:53] <rue_shop5> <rue_shop5> 2G
[17:24:55] <rue_shop5> <rue_shop5> per partition
[17:24:57] <rue_shop5> <rue_shop5> you could have up to 2 main partitions, and I dont know how many soft partitions
[17:25:18] <rue_shop5> the 2.5 does have a master/slave, its burried in the header
[17:25:20] <rue_shop5> iirc
[17:25:33] <Tom_itx> not sure about that
[17:26:57] <Tom_itx> http://paulski.com/zpages.php?id=1717
[17:27:09] <rue_shop5> dos 2G
[17:27:37] <rue_shop5> the bios limit dosn't matter cause linux dosn't use the bios
[17:27:45] <rue_shop5> I had a P100 with a 200G drive on it
[17:28:15] <Tom_itx> i wonder if i dare try jumpering those
[17:28:32] <Tom_itx> the 4 on the end are unused by the hdd connector
[17:28:32] <rue_shop5> I think they are jumped in the cable
[17:28:38] <Tom_itx> not connected
[17:28:50] <Tom_itx> not on the adapter i have anyway
[17:29:25] <rue_shop5> 37 /IDE_CS0 OUT (1F0-1F7)
[17:29:25] <rue_shop5> 38 /IDE_CS1 OUT (3F6-3F7)
[17:29:33] <rue_shop5> swap those wires :)
[17:29:53] <rue_shop5> remember the floppy drive cable twist?
[17:29:58] <Tom_itx> yeah
[17:30:34] <rue_shop5> wait, you dont have 4 jumper pins just beside, but not part of the connector?
[17:30:53] <Tom_itx> http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2028834&seqNum=3
[17:31:05] <Tom_itx> i have the 4 extra jumper pins by pin1
[17:31:11] <rue_shop5> yea
[17:31:16] <Tom_itx> like the 2.5 pinout shows there
[17:31:32] <rue_shop5> that should be the master/slave etc
[17:31:44] <Tom_itx> now i gotta find a tiny jumper
[17:31:53] <rue_shop5> yea, freaking metric one
[17:32:02] <Tom_itx> i have some but don't know where
[17:32:28] <rue_shop5> axis: 0: start:2.000000 position:26.509809 target:27.000000
[17:32:28] <rue_shop5> axis: 1: start:-4.000000 position:-17.725492 target:-18.000000
[17:32:28] <rue_shop5> axis: 2: start:9.000000 position:-9.627455 target:-10.000000
[17:32:28] <rue_shop5> axis: 3: start:-10.000000 position:39.019619 target:40.000000
[17:32:35] <rue_shop5> interpolator missed the target
[17:32:50] <Tom_itx> ahh found one
[17:33:51] <Tom_itx> which one would you say to jumper for slave?
[17:34:07] <rue_shop5> hell if I know, see if you can find the sheet for it
[17:34:11] <rue_shop5> (online)
[17:34:38] <rue_shop5> hwo the hell did the interpolator miss?
[17:36:42] <Tom_itx> remember those resistor packs we used to have to mess with?
[17:36:54] <rue_shop5> terminators
[17:37:40] <Tom_itx> arnold-ators
[17:38:04] <Tom_itx> gonna try B-D
[17:38:10] <Tom_itx> says should be cable select
[17:38:53] <rue_shop5> cable select, throw your fate to the 'smart system'
[17:39:20] <rue_shop5> finish: 50.000011, target 50.000000
[17:39:21] <rue_shop5> axis: 0: start:2.000000 position:26.509809 target:27.000000
[17:39:21] <rue_shop5> axis: 1: start:-4.000000 position:-17.725492 target:-18.000000
[17:39:21] <rue_shop5> axis: 2: start:9.000000 position:-9.627455 target:-10.000000
[17:39:21] <rue_shop5> axis: 3: start:-10.000000 position:39.019619 target:40.000000
[17:39:31] <rue_shop5> it overaccumulated by .000011
[17:39:46] <rue_shop5> stopped 1 step short
[17:43:15] <rue_shop5> there we go
[17:43:59] <rue_shop5> axis: 0: start:2.000000 position:27.000000 target:27.000000
[17:43:59] <rue_shop5> axis: 1: start:-4.000000 position:-18.000000 target:-18.000000
[17:43:59] <rue_shop5> axis: 2: start:9.000000 position:-10.000000 target:-10.000000
[17:43:59] <rue_shop5> axis: 3: start:-10.000000 position:40.000000 target:40.000000
[17:45:32] <rue_shop5> yay, I have a new library version
[17:47:09] <rue_shop5> ok so, I can use that version with the driver code that pushes a stepper motor +-1 step
[17:56:24] <rue_shop5> Tom_itx, question, if I have no kids or a spouse or anything, whats to stop me from racking up one HELL of a debt before I die?
[17:56:37] <rue_shop5> the way I see it if I die + they just get it anyhow
[17:56:43] <rue_shop5> (govt/banks)
[17:57:21] <rue_shop5> I just have to time it right
[17:58:29] <Tom_itx> ok got it to see all the drives
[17:59:10] <Tom_itx> booting from the 2.5" hdd
[18:00:29] <rue_shop5> why not die $4M in debt?
[18:00:57] <Tom_itx> it's a thought
[18:01:22] <Tom_itx> sometimes i think that's her perspective on it
[18:01:51] <rue_shop5> I have nobody to inherit anything I own when I die
[18:02:09] <Tom_itx> you should work on that
[18:02:28] <rue_shop5> or die with $4M in toys
[18:04:01] <rue_shop5> its a thinking question
[18:04:34] <Tom_itx> you can't reall plan when that will occur so you don't know when to max out your debt
[18:04:45] <rue_shop5> hehe, I cany find the avr code for operating a stepper set
[18:05:15] <rue_shop5> well, a person could research how long it takes for the alarms to kick in and approximate
[18:05:24] <Tom_itx> ok i'm gonna try to image the new drive to the 2.5" one
[18:05:30] <Tom_itx> so they will be identical
[18:05:38] <rue_shop5> backups are good
[18:05:41] <Tom_itx> which should i use ass the good one?
[18:05:49] <Tom_itx> i think 2.5 are more rugged really
[18:05:57] <rue_shop5> I think so too
[18:06:09] <Tom_itx> i have a few of em
[18:06:14] <Tom_itx> got 4 ssd now
[18:06:24] <Tom_itx> so far i like them
[18:06:29] <Tom_itx> only really using one
[18:06:29] <rue_shop5> I'v not had an ssd last more than a month tho :)
[18:06:35] <Tom_itx> samsung
[18:06:37] <Tom_itx> evo
[18:06:44] <Tom_itx> supposedly pretty good
[18:06:58] <Tom_itx> it doesn't run 24/7
[18:07:00] <rue_shop5> I wasn't impressed with mine, I have the 2 drives, but have no idea what to use them for
[18:07:12] <rue_shop5> the speed was addictive tho
[18:07:15] <rue_shop5> *BAM*
[18:07:16] <Tom_itx> been using one for quick images
[18:07:22] <Tom_itx> it sure is :D
[18:07:33] <Tom_itx> boots win7 and catia in a flash
[18:07:38] <Tom_itx> quicker than the lab pc's
[18:08:16] <Tom_itx> ok i will try ghost on this i think
[18:08:59] <Tom_itx> i feel ok about it since the original one is unplugged now
[18:09:07] <Tom_itx> working off backups
[18:09:49] <rue_shop5> I got a bunch of atmega8 from china for 80c ea
[18:09:56] <rue_shop5> well, still waiting for them
[18:10:14] <rue_shop5> I'v got stuff thats been stuck for 4 months in shipping
[18:10:20] <rue_shop5> I think canada post lost it
[18:11:49] <Tom_itx> still bitches about the chkdsk bit set but i got by that this time
[18:12:04] <Tom_itx> atmega8 are sometimes flakey
[18:12:10] <rue_shop5> so run chkdsk on the good drive
[18:12:13] <Tom_itx> the 88 would be a better choice
[18:12:13] <rue_shop5> rrly?
[18:12:18] <rue_shop5> how flakey?
[18:12:23] <rue_shop5> magic reboots?
[18:12:38] <rue_shop5> program fails?
[18:12:41] <Tom_itx> rif sent me one and it got to where i couldn't program it anymore
[18:12:46] <rue_shop5> wow
[18:12:58] <Tom_itx> on the datalogger we were working on
[18:13:08] <Tom_itx> you can try them but be aware
[18:13:20] <rue_shop5> hmm, I'v never connected these two peices of software....
[18:13:28] <rue_shop5> will do, thanks
[18:14:50] <rue_shop5> ... I'v NEVER connected these!?
[18:14:57] <rue_shop5> I ...
[18:15:17] <rue_shop5> I'v never used the interpolator with a stepper motor set?
[18:15:39] <rue_shop5> but... the origional interpolator was MADE for steppers
[18:16:35] <Tom_itx> M3 hdd screws?
[18:16:49] <rue_shop5> mixed / yes
[18:17:27] <Tom_itx> the tap was in the screw box so i assumed it was
[18:17:53] <rue_shop5> hehe
[18:18:20] <rue_shop5> ah, here....? ... is the origional code for that robot arm
[18:18:43] <rue_shop5> wow its amazing how fast I change the way I do things
[18:18:59] <Tom_itx> things i don't have sets of i tend to match up that way
[18:19:49] <rue_shop5> this code was from 2013, and I'v switched to usb and moved about 2 versions ahead on most of my libraries
[18:20:34] <rue_shop5> ok , but wait, the reason I'm doing this is to upgrade the tilt and pan mirror I made 12years ago
[18:21:28] <rue_shop5> and i'v switched from m32 to m328
[18:21:32] <rue_shop5> for the most part
[18:31:26] <rue_shop5> ok, time to make a pile of parts
[18:45:56] <rue_shop5> ! :-S this old supplies 5V is sitting at 6.2!
[18:46:01] <rue_shop5> k...
[18:46:05] <rue_shop5> wont use that...
[18:52:32] <Tom_itx> why can i not change the label of the hdd?
[19:23:33] <__m00n__> quick what package do I apt-get for auto set time on a debian system????
[19:30:36] <Tom_itx> the one that autosets the time
[19:31:15] <__m00n__> nice tip
[19:31:25] <Tom_itx> quick as i could be
[19:31:30] <Tom_itx> not so accurate
[19:31:35] <__m00n__> m hm
[19:41:11] <rue_shop5> the answer is you cant auto set the time on linux, there is an ntp package, but if the time is out by more than 1 second or soemthing stupid it will abort changing the time because it feels there is too much drift
[19:41:35] <rue_shop5> Tom_itx, the partition editor can rewrite the label
[19:42:03] <rue_shop5> and for all the rest of you, the answer, to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything, is
[19:45:19] <Tom_itx> it didn't wanna name the C drive
[19:45:27] <Tom_itx> for some reason
[19:45:50] <Tom_itx> drive configuration is a bit odd but it seems to be working
[19:45:58] <Tom_itx> wanted a 2nd hdd for a backup in the system
[19:57:12] <Tom_itx> how to edit the NT install path? with the 2nd hdd it can't find some services since the drive is remapped
[20:07:15] <Tom_itx> not enough memory in the pc to update it to something newer
[20:14:15] <rue_shop5> wow, I dont remember
[20:20:56] <Tom_itx> i could just unplug the spare drive
[20:21:01] <Tom_itx> didn't really want to though
[20:21:29] <rue_shop5> I dont suggest running up the hours on it
[20:21:33] <Tom_itx> everything important gets backed up on 2 other pcs anyway
[20:21:48] <rue_shop5> :) I also dont suggest leaving it powered down for like 2 years at a time
[20:22:05] <Tom_itx> it gets uses almost daily
[20:22:24] <rue_shop5> you think its everything important till you need to rebuild one from scratch, then you really feel the minor stuff was more important than you wanted it to be
[20:22:59] <Tom_itx> i know about that stuff
[20:23:10] <Tom_itx> try to prepare to the full extent
[20:23:49] <Tom_itx> technology has a way to make that hard on old systems though
[20:24:30] <rue_shop5> I had the scsi 30k drive on the file server die
[20:24:43] <rue_shop5> its content was "not important" but GEEZ
[20:24:52] <rue_shop5> the OS drive
[20:24:54] <Tom_itx> i must say at least on windows that aomei clone software works very good
[20:25:00] <Tom_itx> better than ghost in some cases
[20:25:20] <Tom_itx> works on usb drives too
[20:25:52] <Tom_itx> i hunted for something when ghost wouldn't work on the newer hardware
[20:27:23] <Tom_itx> and i have to maintain a 32 & 64 bit version of windows 7 for all the stuff i use
[20:29:29] <rue_shop5> without them magically turning into windows 10
[20:30:09] <rue_shop5> or comming down with the flu
[20:57:39] <Tom_itx> i wonder if i can dual boot win7 32 & 64 on the same hdd
[20:57:58] <^kat^-afk> cold, violent shivers, barfng, not talkative
[20:58:20] <rue_house> ^kat^-afk, eek
[20:58:43] <rue_house> do you think you caught a bug y/n?
[20:58:50] <^kat^-afk> y
[20:59:31] <^kat^-afk> i could not get outa bed to barf, i was too weak, barked on the floor
[20:59:44] <rue_house> I just learned that china dosn't do 'acme' they do 'trapazoidal'
[21:00:00] <rue_house> :/ you gonna need help to get thru it?
[21:00:11] <^kat^-afk> there is no help
[21:00:22] <rue_house> yea thats what I'm worried about
[21:00:35] <^kat^-afk> trapazoidal is easier than real square threads
[21:01:01] <^kat^-afk> but you have a lathe, you can make threads
[21:01:52] <rue_shop5> nuts tho...
[21:01:55] <rue_shop5> pia
[21:54:54] <Tom_itx> feel better kat
[22:23:52] <^kat^-afk> yeas sir
[22:24:06] <^kat^-afk> going to try to eat something before the day ends
[22:45:14] <^kat^-afk> ate a sammich
[23:24:47] <rue_shop5> *thump* *thump* *thump* "This machine is thumping, what is it?" "Its a cloning machine" "UH..." "Oh DAMN! I FORGOT THE ORIGIONAL AGAIN!"
[23:33:07] <rue_shop5> <__m00n__> quick what package do I apt-get for auto set time on a debian system????
[23:33:11] <rue_shop5> <rue_shop5> the answer is you cant auto set the time on linux, there is an ntp package, but if the time is out by more than 1 second or soemthing stupid it will abort changing the time because it feels there is too much drift
[23:33:17] <rue_shop5> ntpdate
[23:33:29] <rue_shop5> run it manually every so often ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[23:36:26] <^kat^-afk> NIST time for winders : www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq or ftp://time-b.nist.gov/pub/daytime
[23:39:33] <__m00n__> thanks rue
[23:39:43] <__m00n__> thats the anser :)
[23:39:51] <__m00n__> hay bring me my trip light?
[23:39:57] <__m00n__> strip*
[23:51:33] <rue_shop5> hah
[23:51:45] <rue_shop5> I'v got a faire to prep for, working like crazy
[23:51:58] <rue_shop5> well, as crazy as I can
[23:57:12] <^kat^-afk> i have a banner for yu to print out, rue, hang behind your table
[23:58:37] <rue_shop5> ?
[23:58:58] <^kat^-afk> http://DesignerThinking.com/images/engineers.jpg
[23:59:07] <rue_shop5> :)
[23:59:57] <rue_shop5> ouch I looked at it too long and I have a headache
