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[00:01:46] <rue_shop5> 8-] STRUCTURAL SQUARE TUBE FITS INSIDE CONSECUTIVE SIZES!!!!!!!
[00:01:55] <katsmeow> Mitsubishi Motors manipulated mileage data on electric car: Sankei
[00:01:55] <katsmeow> Apr 21 2016
[00:02:07] <katsmeow> NOT ALWAYS
[00:02:17] <rue_shop5> I have the disc sander right there, I can just flick the stick across it before I start a weld
[00:02:37] <rue_shop5> damnit, I only have 10 mins left
[00:03:04] <katsmeow> you do not wanna do that, if you hit the axle, you may get current thru places you don't need it, like bearings, brushes
[00:03:36] <katsmeow> fwiw, grinding wheels and cutting discs are not as god as the paper
[00:05:11] <rue_shop5> isolted welderr
[00:07:09] <katsmeow> yea,, i discovered there is a path from my barn frame thru the rebar in the house concrete and into the gnd/neutral of the electrical
[00:07:26] <katsmeow> oterhwise, my growelbox secondary is isolated too
[00:09:43] <rue_shop5> hehe
[00:09:49] <rue_shop5> ok, well
[00:10:09] <rue_shop5> some of the ideas your local rendition came up with helped a lot
[00:10:59] <rue_shop5> you suggested that I not weld on the main slider, but make a surface its clamped down on, so it can float into position and then be clamped down in
[00:11:04] <rue_shop5> compeltely adjustable
[00:11:19] <rue_shop5> but then you called cm 'funny little units'
[00:13:13] <katsmeow> i did?
[00:14:12] <rue_shop5> yup
[00:14:16] <rue_shop5> I'
[00:14:21] <rue_shop5> I'd never have thought of it
[00:15:13] <katsmeow> i didn't know i'd think oof cm as funny little units either
[00:15:27] <katsmeow> i must have called them something else
[00:15:58] <rue_shop5> hey, its not a 100% accurate recreation
[00:17:40] <rue_shop5> I'll take pics of our work
[00:17:46] <katsmeow> well, fwiw, i use mm fairly often , sometimes
[00:18:38] * katsmeow smells brocoli rice being hot
[00:19:52] <zhanx> Ok lab work done ish
[00:20:00] <zhanx> Let me toss this at you
[00:20:10] <zhanx> Powered back brace
[00:20:44] <zhanx> Dielectric movement
[00:22:43] * katsmeow stays silent
[00:23:06] <rue_house> hold up, images!
[00:23:14] <rue_house> give me all your images!
[00:23:16] <rue_house> no, wait
[00:23:24] <zhanx> Rue you have them
[00:23:47] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc3/p1070974.jpg
[00:23:54] <rue_house> kat, I think thats the best single image
[00:24:09] <rue_house> thats the reference slider, the other one will just be a vert support
[00:24:16] <zhanx> Yea that's not going to work rue
[00:24:36] <rue_house> the C clamp will be a holddown bracket like used on a workpiece
[00:24:44] <rue_house> zhanx, whats your thought
[00:25:09] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc3/p1070973.jpg
[00:25:14] <zhanx> Actually accuracy is not an issue right?
[00:25:17] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/cnc3/p1070975.jpg
[00:25:19] <rue_house> no
[00:25:48] <rue_house> the idea is a little 10cmx20cm machine thats leagues more stable than the one I have right now
[00:25:55] <zhanx> K
[00:26:12] <rue_house> there are all sorts of things that could be better
[00:26:24] <zhanx> Might work but don't ask it to repeat itself
[00:26:31] <rue_house> local simulated kat is saying everything should be WAY heavier
[00:26:52] <zhanx> Amd more bearings
[00:26:58] <rue_house> this is a 'get it done' project, not an 'ideally built' project
[00:27:03] * katsmeow has no point of reference
[00:27:04] <rue_house> no ball bearings
[00:27:10] <rue_house> metal on metal sliders
[00:27:19] <rue_house> its gonna be a 10cmx20cm mill
[00:27:37] <rue_house> the L^ you see is the X carrige parts
[00:27:41] <zhanx> Oilers
[00:27:54] <rue_house> the round bar is the main stationary slider
[00:28:01] <zhanx> Metal on metal is friction
[00:28:09] <rue_house> zhanx, yea, the round on flat is also a point of contention
[00:28:28] <rue_house> I'm being directed a lot by what I have on hand
[00:29:03] <zhanx> Roller skate bearings?
[00:29:12] <rue_house> no bearings
[00:29:22] <zhanx> Bike cycle hubs?
[00:29:30] <rue_house> big machines dont use bearings, they use dovetail solid metal
[00:29:48] <zhanx> With oilers
[00:30:00] <zhanx> Lube points
[00:30:01] <rue_house> yea, I'ts gonna be greased out the yazoo
[00:30:07] <zhanx> And chain drive
[00:30:12] <rue_house> no
[00:30:16] <rue_house> threaded rod drive,
[00:30:23] <rue_house> but with a 1:2 to the motor
[00:30:28] <zhanx> Stretch?
[00:30:39] <rue_house> motor 1:2 5/16-18 rod
[00:30:52] <rue_house> bit of backlash comp
[00:31:02] <rue_house> cant do acme cause I have no tap
[00:31:12] <rue_house> acme taps start at $50
[00:31:35] <rue_house> I might go larger than 5/16
[00:31:42] <rue_house> but inertia starts to become an issue
[00:32:08] <rue_house> and I cant just thread some pipe, no nut, and inertia
[00:32:23] <zhanx> Weld?
[00:33:44] <rue_house> hu?
[00:34:01] <zhanx> Tore down a 5.9 Cummings diesel to the block today
[00:34:21] <zhanx> It's hollowed weld Ina space and nut
[00:34:32] <katsmeow> Last month, Bloomberg reported Alphabet (google) was trying to sell Boston Dynamics, the robot company it bought in 2013. The firm made spectacular-but-terrifying robot prototypes but wasn't likely to produce a marketable product in the next few years.
[00:34:46] <zhanx> Move the pipe not the angle
[00:35:34] <zhanx> Boston dynamics is a darpa lab anyways
[00:36:44] <rue_house> what?
[00:36:58] <rue_house> I dare you to draw how that can be reversed
[00:37:02] <rue_house> with support
[00:37:30] <zhanx> Ok I will. Problem is right now my back is out again
[00:38:15] <zhanx> Waiting on my pain meds to kick in. But. 3 shaft support. Floating top rail
[00:38:49] <rue_house> I was going to bore out a 1" coupler, and then notch out the side for the slider support
[00:39:05] <rue_house> but its a 'get it done'
[00:39:10] * zhanx has access to a welder now
[00:39:33] <katsmeow> MIT researchers Hae Wong Park, Patrick Wensing, Sangbae Kim first tested the robot's agility on a treadmill in their lab and then let the robot off its leash to see if the robot can run and jump on its own.
[00:39:33] <katsmeow> They hope to find the robot this month.
[00:39:40] <rue_house> cool stuff, I'm $750 away from a drill-mill
[00:39:55] <rue_house> hehe
[00:39:57] <zhanx> Kat they wont
[00:40:21] <zhanx> I got air grinders for that
[00:40:34] <zhanx> Air powered mill
[00:41:30] <zhanx> Next week I am think I am getting 400 feet of stainless 14 or 16 gauge wire
[00:43:54] <rue_house> makign a cable cutter?
[00:44:09] <zhanx> Robot
[00:44:24] <zhanx> Revision 3
[00:44:45] <zhanx> This time with a body
[00:45:10] <zhanx> Tether for power etc
[00:45:35] <rue_house> I think I can use the lathe to make a pillow block for the bottom of that bar-runner
[00:45:45] <rue_house> [C
[00:45:51] <rue_house> [(
[00:45:59] <zhanx> That might work
[00:46:36] <rue_house> there will be two fixed anti-drift pins and one lockable tension bolt
[00:46:59] <rue_house> that pipe was too long to machine in the lathe
[00:47:02] <zhanx> And homing features
[00:47:10] <rue_house> so its dia might varry
[00:47:27] <rue_house> it'll wear in
[00:47:33] <rue_house> right before it wears out
[00:47:43] <zhanx> And time for a new one
[00:48:21] <zhanx> Ok bed I have to finish rebuilding a 590 Cummings tomorrow
[00:48:25] <rue_house> in ... oh god....19 years the threaded rod driving my old cnc machine have never worn out
[00:48:37] <zhanx> Worthless engine
[00:48:41] <rue_house> oh, maybe I should just spin the nut and not the rod
[00:48:49] <rue_house> the one that had the bold break off?
[00:48:54] <rue_house> bolt
[00:49:01] <rue_house> er casing peice?
[00:49:05] <zhanx> No I fixed that
[00:49:09] <rue_house> ah
[00:49:21] <zhanx> Head gasket and piston sleeve
[00:49:25] <rue_house> can I put liners in my 'iron duke'?
[00:49:33] <zhanx> Yes
[00:49:52] <rue_house> get some compression back and reduce the blowby
[00:50:06] <zhanx> New rings are easier
[00:50:06] <rue_house> I dont think the vac line for the case can keep up anymore
[00:50:27] <rue_house> by the time you need new things, aren't the cylinders done?
[00:50:36] <rue_house> new rings
[00:50:40] <zhanx> Add a vacuum ball
[00:50:44] <rue_house> my hands aren't listening carefully
[00:50:56] <rue_house> its got one...
[00:51:01] <zhanx> No. Not really depends on the engine
[00:51:06] <rue_house> more balls make a better truck?
[00:51:10] <rue_house> :)
[00:51:27] <zhanx> Add on off the master cylinder a d of course
[00:51:51] <katsmeow> if it's that old, you gotta rebore the cylinders anhow, the cyl and pistons aren't round any more, replace the pistons
[00:51:57] <rue_house> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Duke_engine
[00:52:28] <rue_house> oh
[00:52:39] <rue_house> its ... 315000km?
[00:52:51] <zhanx> Low mileage
[00:52:56] <rue_house> 195732 miles
[00:53:18] <rue_house> so, just new rings maybe?
[00:53:25] <rue_house> valve cleanup?
[00:53:49] <katsmeow> either way, if you rebore to get the new liners into it, just bore to the next larger pistons and forget the liners
[00:53:54] <zhanx> Rue I fix things once, Hone .walls and new rings check everything else
[00:54:27] <zhanx> Kat that block is bad on over bore which most shops do
[00:54:44] <rue_house> bad?
[00:54:48] <zhanx> A .30 hone and rings will fix it mostly
[00:54:57] <rue_house> .30?
[00:55:08] <rue_house> hmm
[00:55:29] <rue_house> too bad I cant get the damn pan off without taking out the engine
[00:55:33] <zhanx> .30 thousands is an over bore which you can get rings for
[00:55:41] <rue_house> oh
[00:55:53] <zhanx> Ok that's my alarms night
[00:55:55] <rue_house> they increment in .3 thou!?
[00:56:02] <zhanx> .05
[00:56:09] <rue_house> !?
[00:56:20] <zhanx> It's complicated
[00:56:22] <katsmeow> rue, pull the engine mount bolts, then drop the frame crossmember?
[00:56:25] <rue_house> and its so standard I could just get them
[00:56:41] <zhanx> Night Google it and yes
[00:56:51] <rue_house> katsmeow, I wondered a few times if its worth just dropping the front axle off
[00:57:26] <rue_house> if it weren't for the pan, it would be easy to work on
[00:57:37] <rue_house> think it needs a new oil pump too
[00:57:39] <rue_house> :/
[00:58:48] <rue_house> getting the oil pressure up to 40psi is becomming a challange
[00:59:13] <rue_house> even at 10wt oil I'm gonna have to start driving around in 2nd
[01:00:15] <katsmeow> use 20-50 then
[01:00:28] <rue_house> esp hard in tourist season when people drive the highway at 65km/hr
[01:00:37] <katsmeow> old trick to use heavier oil
[01:03:36] <rue_house> its supposed to ahve 5wt
[01:03:42] <katsmeow> ok
[01:03:46] <rue_house> its much happier with 10
[01:04:01] <katsmeow> ok
[01:04:09] <rue_house> at some point it must be *too* heavy
[01:05:01] <rue_house> I dont know what a good oil pressure is, but below 40psi is starts making noise
[01:05:11] <__m00n__> for car engine?
[01:05:15] <rue_house> yea
[01:05:20] <__m00n__> hmmm
[01:05:39] <__m00n__> 40 or 50 sounds right
[01:05:57] <rue_house> yea, the truck almost tops out at 40
[01:06:01] * katsmeow waves gnite
[01:06:06] <rue_house> kngghte
[01:06:11] <rue_house> hasdfjkasdfjasdnjklasnfn
[01:07:27] <__m00n__> seems homies on forums are talking bout 40-50 psi at idle for my engine
[01:07:47] <__m00n__> 60psi at 2 to 6 grand revs
[01:07:57] <__m00n__> 2 to 3 * grand
[01:08:52] <__m00n__> how is the stuff for the show coming?
[01:11:25] <__m00n__> Magnetic PImp goes to his cartoons now( in the third person)
[01:25:54] <rue_house> hey this book says 30-55psi
[03:28:28] <rue_2bed> so I can use much larger threaded rod
[03:28:51] <rue_2bed> meaning that the ratio can be lower
