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[00:00:01] <rue_house> I just do brazingw ith the propane
[00:00:21] <rue_house> but I could to tig if I had shoelding gas, and then Id be fully covered
[00:00:35] * rue_house squints at what he typed
[00:00:40] <katsmeow> oxy-propane can cut nicely
[00:00:49] <rue_house> yea, preffered for cutting iirc
[00:02:08] <rue_house> ma gets things from china
[00:02:19] <katsmeow> things to cut?
[00:02:28] <rue_house> beads and things
[00:02:39] <rue_house> I phone her to come get things when they arrive
[00:02:51] <rue_house> but if she cant come by that evening, I hide the things
[00:03:01] <rue_house> so that she has to come while I'm here to get them
[00:03:05] <rue_house> otherwise I never see her
[00:03:23] <rue_house> but she is getting really good at finding the things
[00:03:37] <rue_house> I have to wonder what she would find if I said things arrived when they hadn't
[00:04:06] <rue_house> I had them REALLY well hidden today!!!!
[00:04:22] <katsmeow> take them with you when you leave
[00:04:25] <rue_house> na
[00:04:34] <rue_house> its not so important
[00:05:17] <rue_house> places like in the microwave or kettle worked
[00:05:33] <rue_house> good thing I don't use these appliances much
[00:06:29] <rue_house> I think I'll try doubling up led strings where the room is dark
[00:06:37] <katsmeow> computerise the leds in th hallway to freak her out next trip
[00:06:39] <rue_house> I'v not finished going all the way around the room yet tho
[00:07:22] <rue_house> I wonder if you can do a pre-loaded paypal account
[00:08:03] <rue_house> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-Classic-Wired-Game-Controller-Remote-Pro-Gamepad-Shock-For-Nintendo-for-Wii/32606696119.html
[00:08:08] <rue_house> robot controller?
[00:08:20] <rue_house> ~8 axis
[00:08:22] <katsmeow> Gamepad-Shock ?
[00:08:33] <rue_house> $5 game controller
[00:08:54] <rue_house> hmm I taste bleeding, what bleeding...
[00:09:06] <rue_house> hmm
[00:09:33] <rue_house> so your against the idea of me camping in your driveway for 6 days next year?
[00:09:54] <rue_house> I hate driving, so I'm not selling myself on 2x4days straight
[00:09:59] <katsmeow> i caught 3 possums so far this yr, they bite
[00:10:05] <rue_house> zhanx, do you live between me and kat?
[00:10:23] <katsmeow> he is 24 hr north of me
[00:10:52] <rue_house> well I'm 96 hrs north of you
[00:11:17] <katsmeow> *next* year? 2017? i hope like heck i am living in the ocean by then, but i may still own this place
[00:11:52] <katsmeow> zhanx would be str8 east of you, but take longer to get to him than me
[00:15:48] <katsmeow> trying to figure if i can make the rollers be adjustable spacing
[00:16:34] <rue_house> so your saying I'll have to put floats on the truck
[00:17:19] <katsmeow> like the Cubans do
[00:17:58] <katsmeow> your mom lives on a barge, why not me?
[00:17:58] <rue_house> wow
[00:17:58] <rue_house> the green floating truck
[00:18:12] <katsmeow> ddg images?
[00:18:15] <rue_house> haha barrels
[00:18:37] <katsmeow> how long has she lived afloat now?
[00:18:42] <rue_house> they even put a boat front on it as a breaker
[00:18:45] <rue_house> years
[00:19:02] <katsmeow> 15, 20 ?
[00:19:02] <rue_house> about $1100/mo in fees tho, so she says
[00:19:16] <rue_house> well
[00:19:21] <rue_house> more than 10
[00:19:23] <katsmeow> dayam, she isn't considering anchoring out ?
[00:19:45] <rue_house> geez, the cubans even have a floating icecream truck
[00:19:47] <rue_house> damn
[00:20:01] <rue_house> no too rough
[00:20:15] <rue_house> shes got lots of plants on the boat/float
[00:20:15] <katsmeow> o
[00:20:37] <katsmeow> if she could float level and non-bouncy, wold she anchor out?
[00:21:14] * katsmeow plans on being still in 6ft of swells and average waves
[00:21:27] <rue_house> heh, this cuban floating car is getting pulled over, must hav been speeding
[00:21:30] <katsmeow> at least in deep water
[00:21:44] <katsmeow> cuban police on barrels?
[00:22:02] <rue_house> dunno, they look like US bullies
[00:22:48] <rue_house> why are so many cubans trying to float out of cuba?
[00:22:49] <katsmeow> oh, yeas, lots of them
[00:23:08] <katsmeow> no jobs, little food, no internet, poor tv
[00:23:18] <rue_house> NO INTERNET!!!!
[00:23:22] <rue_house> damn!
[00:23:49] <rue_house> hahah a pic of a truck burning down,
[00:23:54] <rue_house> its got flames painted on it
[00:23:56] <katsmeow> apparently, outside the bigger cities, no one has electricity to run the puters
[00:23:57] <rue_house> haha!
[00:24:21] <rue_house> its edible, must be a cat hair...
[00:25:26] <rue_house> hahah a boat shaped like a zipper handle!
[00:26:09] <rue_house> ooo a cruze liner on its side
[00:26:15] <rue_house> whats not a good position for it
[00:26:18] <rue_house> things will get wet
[00:27:16] <katsmeow> i hear the tables don't work properly either
[00:29:26] <rue_house> the fish will demand a refund
[00:30:10] <rue_house> cammels riding in a truck, that seems wrong
[00:30:26] <katsmeow> faster than the other way round
[00:31:12] <rue_house> "No, there was no driver in it when it crashed, I jumped out before it happened."
[00:32:16] <rue_house> you know, these cuban boats make us look like nasa
[00:33:20] <katsmeow> and SpaceX nakes NASA look mideval
[00:35:05] <rue_house> interesting idea, a tv on the back of a semi showing the view of the road infront of it for safe passing
[00:35:42] <katsmeow> a virtual see-thru truck!
[00:36:10] <rue_house> so I was saving up Pb batteries for my buddy in vancouver
[00:36:42] <rue_house> today he loaded them in a truck, but forgot to cover them, they wouldn't let him on the ferry with them, had to give them to the local scrapper for free
[00:37:11] <katsmeow> so back off, cover them, and drive back on!
[00:38:32] <rue_house> "military develops robotic misquito for sealing DNA samples"
[00:38:50] <katsmeow> sealing? stealing?
[00:39:01] <rue_house> er, stealing
[00:39:17] * rue_house fires himself from the Rue-Times
[00:40:49] <rue_house> I have a listing for custom springs, I wonder if I should ask how much to make sleeving for the drive lines I want
[00:42:17] <katsmeow> i still having trouble with him giving them away for free after you collected them
[00:42:31] <rue_house> I got them FOR him to make money
[00:42:39] <rue_house> cause we cant get any money for them here
[00:42:50] <rue_house> he can in vancouver
[00:43:04] <rue_house> its sad, :/
[00:43:05] <katsmeow> but then he didn't take them to Van
[00:43:11] <rue_house> he couldn't
[00:43:23] <katsmeow> he cold if the ferry people din't know
[00:43:33] <rue_house> they were gonna pin him for having hazardous forms etc etc etc
[00:43:36] <rue_house> yea
[00:43:48] <rue_house> he was gonna put a tarp over them and didn't bother
[00:44:05] * katsmeow looks pissed
[00:45:11] <katsmeow> are old dead car batteries in any condition to melt down and pour as solid lead blocks?
[00:45:22] <rue_house> I dont think so
[00:45:27] <rue_house> I tore one apart to see
[00:45:38] <rue_house> it looks like the sulfur completely screws the lead
[00:45:50] <katsmeow> i was afraid of that
[00:45:59] <katsmeow> drat
[00:46:04] <rue_house> but int eh scrap metal pile, there are a WHIOLE bunch of wheel weights
[00:46:09] <rue_house> I grabbed a bunch
[00:46:30] <rue_house> ... no idea why
[00:46:36] <rue_house> maybe I can make batteries?
[00:46:56] <katsmeow> or so you can make low temperature "aluminum" pours as tests
[00:47:13] <rue_house> I wouldn't wnat to put lead in the casting sand
[00:47:19] <katsmeow> heck, maybe you can seal your boiler leaks with it
[00:47:42] <rue_house> I'm carefull with lead, toxic and all
[00:47:45] <katsmeow> well, if you can't use it, prolly better not have it
[00:48:01] <rue_house> I might just use it to make some spare coffee cups
[00:48:29] <rue_house> "Your coffee is unusually sweet!" "Its acutally the cup, not the coffee"
[00:48:54] <katsmeow> heh
[00:49:41] <rue_house> on alibaba, can you find ptfe or teflon tube with a 1mm id?
[00:49:44] <katsmeow> and to think i chewed on solder like chewing gum in 1st grade
[00:50:02] <katsmeow> i am not fluent in alibaba
[00:50:13] <rue_house> I was chewing air riffle pellets "But not swallowing cause thats bad for you!"
[00:50:21] <katsmeow> lol
[00:50:28] <rue_house> I didn't do that for long
[00:50:47] <rue_house> ocassionally I still chew wire insulation tho
[00:51:01] <katsmeow> and then the dentist puts lead in your teeth, but it's ok because it has MURCURY in it
[00:51:15] <rue_house> lol
[00:51:35] <rue_house> aha, found some!
[00:51:56] <katsmeow> the more flexable the insulation is, the more lead it has in it
[00:52:18] <rue_house> er? dont tell me there is lead in the plastic too...
[00:52:20] <katsmeow> i grabbed a few 100 ft of extension cord today
[00:52:31] <katsmeow> ok, i won't tell you that there is lead in the insulation
[00:52:41] <rue_house> I have a really good extension cord, it just needs two new ends
[00:52:49] <rue_house> :/ buggers
[00:52:49] <katsmeow> California requires power cords be tagged with warnings about it
[00:53:13] <rue_house> WHY WOULD THEY PUT LEAD IN PLASTIC
[00:53:23] <katsmeow> to make it flexable
[00:53:33] <katsmeow> [00:27] <katsmeow> the more flexable the insulation is, the more lead it has in it
[00:54:30] <katsmeow> heck, China has sold TONS of babby teething rings and pacifiers with lead
[00:54:59] <rue_house> this is why I dont get food things from china
[00:55:22] <rue_house> but a company called loblaws makes it hard, they dont post the country of origin on the package
[00:55:35] <rue_house> and almost everything here is done by them now
[00:55:55] <katsmeow> Why are my wires labeled with a cancer warning? The state of California keeps its own list of cancer-causing substances. It requires manufacturers who know that a consumer might be exposed to one of these substances from using their product to label that product with a clear warning. These labels are slightly different from other California Proposition 65 warning labels because of a lawsuit settlement in 2002.
[00:56:10] <katsmeow> Lawsuits filed in 2000 charged that electrical manufacturers were selling covered electrical wires and cable products in California without labels, despite the fact that the wires and cables had lead in their coverings. (Lead is a substance on the California list.) As part of the lawsuit settlement, manufacturers were directed to start attaching warning labels to electrical cords as of late 2003.
[00:56:12] <rue_house> and EVERYING is marked with it
[00:56:25] <katsmeow> Will I be exposed to lead if I use this product, and if so, how? Many electrical wires and cables have small amounts of lead in their outside insulation (surface covering), which can rub off on the hands of people who touch the wires.
[00:56:33] <katsmeow> People can be exposed to lead by ingesting it, so if they handle these wires and then eat or put their hands in their mouths without washing them first, they can take in small amounts of lead. The bigger hazard is likely to be for toddlers and babies who put wires or cables in their mouths.
[00:57:23] <rue_house> this is not a nice thing to tell an electrician
[00:58:50] <rue_house> ok, I have bought 0.8mm stainless cable
[00:58:52] <katsmeow> etc etc etc
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/cancer-warning-labels-based-on-californias-proposition-65
[00:58:53] <katsmeow> techically, brass water stuff (valves, etc) hasto say if they contain lead too
[00:59:19] <rue_house> I'v bought telon pipe with 1mm id and 2mm od, and bike cable housing thats, I think 2.5mm id and 5mm od
[00:59:36] <rue_house> yea, that we have here too
[00:59:53] <rue_house> turns out brass things are easier to cast if you ad lead
[01:00:03] <katsmeow> easier to mill too
[01:00:05] <rue_house> so all the potable water stuff has to be 0% lead
[01:00:11] <katsmeow> yeas
[01:00:25] <rue_house> I noticed all the sprinkler stuff has lead warnings
[01:00:37] <rue_house> / and so I looked it up /
[01:02:43] <rue_house> things from china are taking 50 days
[01:03:05] <rue_house> gnight
[01:03:09] <rue_house> I'm an hour late now
[01:03:41] <katsmeow> happy dreams
[01:03:55] <rue_house> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CNTD-CE-AC-250V-15A-Nonslip-Metal-Momentary-Electric-Power-Stomp-Foot-Pedal-Switch/1968660073.html
[01:03:56] <katsmeow> http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/Here-s-why-a-23-year-old-Google-employee-is-6582504.php
[01:03:59] <rue_house> WHOLY CRAP
[01:04:07] <katsmeow> hmm?
[01:04:36] <katsmeow> http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5627a23269beddba40fe325a-1200-924/inside2-3.jpg
[01:07:25] <rue_house> He could totally do up what van
[01:07:48] <rue_house> honestly, I'd fork out for a rim for the spare tire
[01:07:51] <katsmeow> air conditioning and ceiling fans for sure
[01:08:10] <rue_house> and throw a man door in the side of it
[01:08:35] <rue_house> I didn't know if I could buy a place here, I almost bought a 40' tractor trailer to live out of
[01:08:35] <katsmeow> outside lites
[01:08:54] <katsmeow> 4mpg? no thinaks
[01:08:56] <rue_house> he prolly drives to the laundry mat :)
[01:09:07] <rue_house> not he tractor, just the trailer
[01:09:18] <rue_house> $8000 + fixups
[01:09:34] <rue_house> whats that, 10x40?
[01:09:42] <rue_house> 400 squre feet,
[01:10:01] <katsmeow> Walmart here just put up bigger fancy new signs to prohibit overnite 18-wheelers in their parking lot
[01:10:31] <rue_house> oh I thought wallmart was a park-the-night friendly chain
[01:11:24] <katsmeow> they always had signs up, they just never enforced
[01:11:40] <katsmeow> i dunno, maybe they will be charging rent now?
[01:12:41] <rue_house> there goes my plan to drive across the country
[01:13:07] <katsmeow> sorry
[01:13:32] <rue_house> there was some smirk still left on the corner of your mouth when you said that :)
[01:14:18] <katsmeow> and then i remembered the times i asked for permission to sleep in the parking lot there because the dogs would not let me out of my car to go into my house
[01:16:07] <rue_house> arg, I bought one of those for my welder, but then started looking for welding pedals
[01:17:25] <katsmeow> i put in a contactor inside my welder when i did some rebuilding of it's insides, for a toggle at the rod holder
[01:19:03] <katsmeow> powered it with a 24vac transformer with 240v primary, so it cannot energise if i lose one side of the 240
[01:19:18] <katsmeow> also 240vac fan
[01:19:31] <katsmeow> i had a webpage about it
[01:21:05] <katsmeow> On Tuesday, several lawyers in suits met inside a courtroom to argue before a Superior Court judge why Canada should or should not have to leave.
[01:21:21] <katsmeow> The owners filed a complaint with the court stating that Canada had “permitted waste to occur on the premises”
[01:21:22] <rue_house> ohohohohohohohohoh
[01:21:35] <katsmeow> Lawyers for the owner said Canada had not kept the place up.
[01:21:40] <rue_house> china has the connector for a foot pedal for my welder!!!!
[01:22:33] <rue_house> and all the time it was a US company that made the mess
[01:22:53] <katsmeow> http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/99-year-old-SF-widow-wins-eviction-reprieve-for-7244720.php
[01:22:57] <rue_house> oh I'm sure thats the conenctor
[01:23:15] <katsmeow> i am surprised you need a special connector from china for it
[01:24:39] <katsmeow> Longtime homeless camp at Berkeley post office cleared out
[01:24:50] <katsmeow> SF says it's illegal to live in a box to save on rent
[01:27:53] <rue_house> wow, I hope they lose their jobs and have to live on the street too
[01:28:43] <katsmeow> i built a box to live in inside an apatement i rented alone once
[01:28:49] <katsmeow> apartment
[01:29:48] <katsmeow> the ceiling dropped flakes of itself when the people above stomped around during fights, i needed a shelter inside the apt, the box added some sound proofing too
[01:30:35] <rue_bed> hmm
[01:31:22] <rue_bed> I thought there was a court order that your neighbours coulnd't have any more dogs?
[01:32:54] <katsmeow> "large breed dogs"
[01:33:21] <katsmeow> so they got chihuahuas that fit thru the holes in the new fence i put up
[01:37:52] <katsmeow> the ratdogs bark all the time, and the DA's office has told me that if i did anything and they barked, i was going to jail
[01:38:10] <katsmeow> they now neither confirm nor deny that, and refuse to clarify
[01:38:48] <katsmeow> the clerk of court now says they don't issue arrest warrants like that any more, they require proof of intent to harrass the dog
[01:39:50] <katsmeow> 12 yrs of not working on the house, or not having a garden, of not putting the solar panels up, etc
[01:44:03] <katsmeow> Marilyn McCoo doesn't seem to be popular any more
[01:56:25] <katsmeow> gnite
