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[00:15:52] * katsmeow gets to work making a heat mask with 1" square holes in it, to put over the cornbread, so it is automatically checked
[00:16:22] <katsmeow> if lucky, i can fit a whole checkers game on it as it cools
[00:16:43] <katsmeow> program two of the arms to play checkers against each other
[00:17:20] <katsmeow> embed tiny magnets n the checker disks, latch to them and release them with electomagnets
[00:25:00] * rue_shop3 walks into the kitchen to notice the robot arms scurrying to hide soemthing, and then noticing that there are checkers games on all the waffles...
[00:25:30] <katsmeow> kooool
[00:26:14] <rue_shop3> the wrist is a bit more assembled, this will be a challange
[00:26:48] <katsmeow> it does look challenging
[00:27:09] <rue_shop3> I have,,,, tollerance issues
[00:27:13] <rue_shop3> need to open up some holes
[00:27:31] <rue_shop3> but I'm thinking that the plastic bits I did should be thin metal
[00:28:30] <rue_shop3> falling asleep, tiem to do to bed
[00:28:31] <katsmeow> sturdy mill bits in a mill will make noticeably rounder holes, that has been a clearance problem for me before
[00:28:49] <rue_shop3> the holes are fine, my alignment isn't
[00:29:03] <katsmeow> k
[00:29:39] <katsmeow> i used a 8mm reamer on my finger's bearings seats
[00:37:27] <rue_shop3> ever wondered if your inncodently making something supurfliously complex?
[00:39:14] <katsmeow> superfluous?
[00:39:19] <katsmeow> exceedingly?
[00:39:28] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:39:38] <katsmeow> then i stop and look it over a few dozen times
[00:41:11] <rue_shop3> bike cable, your right, the smallest bike cable is 1.2mm and the sleeves are always 5mm
[00:41:26] <rue_shop3> I got some anyhow, but I have some stuff for operating car mirrors
[00:41:48] <katsmeow> try rc plane/helicopter cables?
[00:42:00] <rue_shop3> its 0.8mm
[00:42:05] <katsmeow> o
[00:42:54] <katsmeow> steel will have a limited number or moves over the pulleys, you're better off with a synthetic
[00:43:06] <rue_shop3> mm I screwed up and got 0.6mm
[00:43:22] <rue_shop3> I was thinking that, but its sleeves, more than pullies
[00:43:33] <rue_shop3> the dyneema is stronger than the stainless
[00:43:48] <rue_shop3> but I suspect its stretchier too
[00:44:14] <katsmeow> it is
[00:44:49] <katsmeow> it will cold flow too, just sitting there, so autotensioners may help
[00:45:35] <rue_shop3> maybe I'll get .8mm too
[00:45:43] <rue_shop3> 50m = $10
[00:46:23] <katsmeow> praps yu can pull one thread out and try it
[00:46:50] <rue_shop3> a 300m roll of dyneema will cost me $50
[00:47:01] <katsmeow> so get less?
[00:47:06] <rue_shop3> thats not a bad deal, but for that much I _have_ to have a definite use for ie
[00:47:07] <rue_shop3> it
[00:47:27] <rue_shop3> the 1mm, 300lb dyneema
[00:47:48] <katsmeow> yeas, strong stuff
[00:48:43] <rue_shop3> do you know how UV stable it is?
[00:48:54] <katsmeow> prolly not
[00:49:22] <katsmeow> any more, i consider all plastics NOT uv stable, no matter what
[00:49:54] <katsmeow> remember i coated my house in cement, not paint?
[00:49:55] <rue_shop3> I have a greenhouse about 20 years old thats got uv resistant corriplat panels
[00:50:02] <rue_shop3> corriplast, and its fine
[00:50:22] <katsmeow> hmm, ok
[00:50:25] <rue_shop3> isn't your roof rusting?
[00:50:37] <rue_shop3> that stuff is supposed to last a LONG time
[00:50:38] <katsmeow> very much rusting
[00:50:56] <rue_shop3> then again, we make it out of aluminum here
[00:51:04] <katsmeow> the west roof is 15 yr thin galvanised, and it was prolly 10 yrs old when i got it
[00:51:06] <rue_shop3> well, the rich guy used copper
[00:51:15] <rue_shop3> oh
[00:51:27] <katsmeow> can get alum here too, and 50yr baked steel
[00:51:39] <rue_shop3> baked?!
[00:51:45] <rue_shop3> backed?
[00:51:48] <katsmeow> powder coated and baked
[00:51:53] <rue_shop3> ah
[00:52:27] <rue_shop3> gees, make roof outa old appliances and make use of that coated metal thats worth nothing to scrappers
[00:52:44] <katsmeow> i figure if you can see a roof, then the owner is short on solar panels or plants
[00:53:21] <katsmeow> they take it here, the glassified coating, they accept it, i won't buy it tho, it way too hard to work on
[00:53:48] <rue_shop3> perfect for a roof
[00:53:51] <katsmeow> but at one time i had considered one washing machine or dryer wold be one 2x2 roof panel
[00:54:25] <katsmeow> still hasto be drilled to be fastened down, and that hole is where it will rust thru
[00:55:36] <katsmeow> but seriously, if you can manage it, 4x8 steel panels, drilled and then galvanised, will prolly outlast your bio-body
[00:55:39] <rue_shop3> do you know what cars used those 3 cable mirror pointing assemblies?
[00:56:04] <katsmeow> the cheaper cars, the pricey ones use servoes
[00:56:10] <rue_shop3> older
[00:56:21] <katsmeow> and very short cables
[00:56:24] <rue_shop3> the ones that used the 3 pull cables, like brake cables
[00:56:39] <katsmeow> i know and the joystick right inside
[00:56:43] <rue_shop3> yea
[00:57:02] <rue_shop3> what brand...
[00:57:07] <katsmeow> dead set on usng steel, eh?
[00:57:24] <rue_shop3> for now
[00:58:06] <katsmeow> 1968 1969 1970 Cadillac Eldorado Driver's Door Side Mirror ...
[00:58:07] <katsmeow> 1968 1969 1970 Cadillac Eldorado Driver's Door Side Mirror - Cable & Joystick in eBay Motors, Parts & Accessories, Vintage Car & Truck Parts | eBay
[00:58:07] <katsmeow> [Search domain rover.ebay.com] rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&
[00:58:58] <rue_shop3> thats one!
[00:59:18] <katsmeow> sorry it took so long
[00:59:36] <rue_shop3> '73
[01:00:29] <katsmeow> mitsubishi galant car door wing mirrors,pair,adjustable+cables+joystick,010416/7
[01:00:58] <katsmeow> 1960's Pontiac Cable Remote Mirror 65 66 67 68 GTO Catalina Ventura Bonneville
[01:01:38] <katsmeow> 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 TRANS AM CAMARO LEFT SPORT BULLET MIRROR OEM
[01:01:58] <rue_shop3> ok this is lots to work with!
[01:03:46] <katsmeow> i'd make alist of the car names, and hit a junk yard, get only the parts yu want for maybe $5
[01:04:16] <rue_shop3> they always say to put it on their call list and then they never call
[01:04:36] <katsmeow> ok, then go back among the cars and look for it
[01:04:52] <rue_shop3> they dont have much cause its not worth anything anymore
[01:04:53] <katsmeow> there's You-Pull-It yards here
[01:05:06] <rue_shop3> they will let me do that, if they have anything
[01:05:09] <rue_shop3> they usually dont
[01:05:43] <rue_shop3> a few cars and a metal pile thats been chewed by an excavator
[01:06:00] <katsmeow> you need more than that one yard
[01:06:14] <rue_shop3> they had a door for my truck with the window seal I needed, but looking close, the seal is almost as bad as mine, they will only sell me wthe whole door
[01:06:43] <rue_shop3> there are 2 auto people aound here
[01:06:58] <rue_shop3> the other one keeps about 3 cars around
[01:07:03] <katsmeow> got phone book (yellow pages) ?
[01:07:11] <rue_shop3> its almost eaiser to find and scavange from cars in the bush
[01:07:18] <rue_shop3> they are the only 2
[01:07:27] <rue_shop3> other than that I'd have to go to vancouver
[01:07:30] <katsmeow> in all of BC there is only 2 ?
[01:07:57] <rue_shop3> no, remember that me shipping a 12"^3 box to me neighbour would cost $80 and take 2 weeks
[01:08:16] <katsmeow> how about a fishing store? or fishing/sports dept in a big store?
[01:09:02] * katsmeow whipe open ebay again
[01:09:43] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=steel%20fishing%20leader&clk_rvr_id=1012906481908&mfe=search
[01:09:46] <rue_shop3> I actaully suspect I'd have more success getting a spring factory in china to do a custom job for me
[01:09:54] <katsmeow> lookie at the pretty assorted cables
[01:10:12] <rue_shop3> oh look
[01:10:19] <rue_shop3> nylon coated stainless
[01:10:21] <rue_shop3> huh
[01:10:37] <rue_shop3> bike brake cable is now teflon coated, but I couldn't find it bulk
[01:12:00] <katsmeow> take calipers to a fishing store, and tell them you are tehre to measure their leaders
[01:12:12] <katsmeow> "take me to your leaders"
[01:12:53] <rue_shop3> tiger tail...
[01:13:01] <rue_shop3> 0.6mm...
[01:13:19] <katsmeow> it's made different than bike cable
[01:14:05] <rue_shop3> 0.8!
[01:14:20] <rue_shop3> http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-25-0-3-0-35-0-38-0-45-0-5-0-6-0-7-0-8-1-0mm-Stainless-Steel-Tiger-Tail-Beading-/131586212730?var=&hash=item1ea326437a:m:m89aBqSmcDb5CVC0qhkfDqA
[01:14:31] <rue_shop3> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[01:14:55] <rue_shop3> thats what I was after!
[01:14:56] <katsmeow> yo wanted *thicker* ? i was aiming for *thinner*
[01:15:09] <rue_shop3> somewhere about 0.8mm
[01:15:17] <katsmeow> oh
[01:15:26] <rue_shop3> tiger tail is coated
[01:15:37] <rue_shop3> is what arm9 uses
[01:15:59] <katsmeow> the nylon doesn't get pinched off under pressure on the pullies??
[01:17:11] <rue_shop3> not so far
[01:17:15] <katsmeow> We ship the item to USA by air mail ( DON'T have the track number ) ,shipping time need about 12-25 workdays (is real slow plane)
[01:21:47] <rue_shop3> ok, I'll check the dollar store tommorow and if they dotn avhe it I'll go online
[01:22:58] <rue_house> oh, before you go
[01:23:06] <rue_house> show ya the stand
[01:23:07] <katsmeow> hmm?
[01:25:39] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/images/p1070918.jpg
[01:26:37] <katsmeow> looks nice, different than what i would have done
[01:27:08] <katsmeow> every project you will wanna make new tables to clamp to that angle on top
[01:27:38] <katsmeow> O-rings, flat tables, rollers, edges, etc
[01:28:24] <rue_house> I saw one somehwere and immediatly thought "I can make one!"
[01:28:34] <katsmeow> disk brakes make nice table feet in grass/dirt
[01:28:45] <rue_house> I didn't anticipate bending the rebar to be a bitch
[01:28:54] <katsmeow> you can fill drum brakes with concrete
[01:29:08] <rue_house> Igot 3 from the scrap yard
[01:29:12] <rue_house> and a steel rim
[01:29:25] <rue_house> apparenly now I have 2 steel rims
[01:29:29] <katsmeow> drum brakes also hold pet water trays down
[01:29:46] <rue_house> I have my bench grinder on a post held up by one
[01:29:53] <rue_house> from a large truck
[01:30:05] <katsmeow> i collected a few truck brake rotors that fit my trailers
[01:30:31] <rue_house> hehe, stopping power
[01:30:32] <katsmeow> yeas,, i'd make a sturdy pad you can stand on to help hold it sturdier
[01:30:58] <rue_house> I thiknk its from an 18 wheel tractor
[01:31:05] <rue_house> its no pushover
[01:31:18] <rue_house> ~18" dia?
[01:31:22] <katsmeow> 1.8ft diameter?
[01:31:26] <katsmeow> yeas
[01:31:46] <katsmeow> my dually has rotors that big
[01:31:47] <rue_house> cast iron again, sprreading out my welds
[01:31:54] <rue_house> wuf
[01:31:58] <katsmeow> 10,000lb truck stops on a dime
[01:32:02] <rue_house> its not siezing up out there is it?
[01:32:15] <rue_house> siezing and being eaten?
[01:33:06] <katsmeow> i had 4 tons on it once, and pulling the big trailer, hit the brakes n a rain storm outside atlanta, the anti lock system kicked in, stoppes o fast if i had not been wearing lap belt i'd have done thru the windshireld
[01:33:27] <rue_house> wow
[01:33:50] <rue_house> oh look I had the hickey on it when i tookt eh pic
[01:33:53] <rue_house> hah
[01:33:54] <rue_house> you asked
[01:34:05] <katsmeow> i was driving, and got thrown clear off the seat
[01:34:19] <rue_house> its a nice looking truck
[01:34:27] <rue_house> kinda wish I had one
[01:34:33] <katsmeow> that's what you bend conduit with?
[01:34:33] <rue_house> prolly better I dont
[01:34:39] <rue_house> hell no
[01:34:49] <rue_house> we only do EMT and its all by preformed horns
[01:34:50] <katsmeow> it's a fuel hog, and it has problems
[01:35:00] <rue_house> yea, pump irc
[01:36:00] <rue_house> tahts not the one they bent the axle on is it?
[01:36:16] <katsmeow> http://i21.geccdn.net/site/images/n-picgroup/GDR_820.jpg ?
[01:36:31] <rue_house> we dont use those
[01:36:38] <rue_house> we only do EMT, its with...
[01:36:45] <katsmeow> i have a couple of
http://s3.amazonaws.com/infotech_websites/campbellrentalls_ca/production/uploaded_files/products/images/167/pipe-hickey-bender_large.jpeg?1333401606
[01:36:55] <rue_house> yea those
[01:37:36] <rue_house> the one sitting on the stand in that image is the first style
[01:38:08] <katsmeow> you'll wanna make a donut to hold stuff in that angle, things always jump out at the worst moment and twist asn they go down and thi teh floor and theow sparjks and scare the cat
[01:38:19] <katsmeow> ah, ok
[01:38:24] <rue_house> I have no idea what I'll ever use it for
[01:38:31] <rue_house> but I wanted one when I saw it
[01:38:49] <rue_house> I used angle iron for shelvs with oval slots in it
[01:39:06] <rue_house> I think I made it too big
[01:39:11] <rue_house> for most things
[01:39:21] <rue_house> funny how scales slip in my mind
[01:40:01] <rue_house> and almost everything I'v ever made that mattered was front-heavy
[01:40:03] <katsmeow> put a sign on it "mandatory use of laser protection goggle tuned to 34456 angstroms when on this property. thank you."
[01:40:17] <rue_house> :)
[01:40:46] <rue_house> I heard a rock hit my shop today when the neighbour was mowing his lawn...
[01:40:57] <rue_house> it wasn't the only rock he hit, I felt for the mower
[01:41:23] <rue_house> as usual, after about 20 mins the mower had enough water in the carb to stall out every 45 seconds
[01:41:26] <katsmeow> ask him about a rock deterrent fence before he owes you a window?
[01:41:37] <rue_house> no windows on that side
[01:41:54] <katsmeow> between the buildinsg and hit th etruck?
[01:42:21] <katsmeow> only need to be a short fence, 2 feet?
[01:42:33] <katsmeow> deflector dish
[01:42:42] <rue_house> I wonder if he takes that damned mower to the shop every year or buys a new one?
[01:43:05] <rue_house> I drained the water out once for him
[01:43:11] <katsmeow> if he is mowng rocks, he prolly keeps running ito the grond till it dies, and buys new
[01:43:21] <rue_house> he didn't seem interested in my advice on how to avoid the problem in the future
[01:43:40] <rue_house> well, there are only so many rocks, a few less every year
[01:44:17] <katsmeow> i just found 2 black jelly beans hiding in the banananananana sockets
[01:44:37] <rue_house> not left there by vermon I hope
[01:44:44] <katsmeow> they been tehre for days , on the desk, blennding in perfectly
[01:44:59] <katsmeow> no i had a baggie of them last week
[01:45:05] <rue_house> ah
[01:45:15] <rue_house> funny, our jelly beans dont fit in banana sockets
[01:45:23] <katsmeow> ayhoo, that looks like nice bending there
[01:45:38] <katsmeow> not in, but among, mimicing the black ones
[01:45:58] * rue_house checks to see if his eyebrows are still present after having shaved
[01:46:00] <katsmeow> came black color, size, shine
[01:46:17] <rue_house> ah
[01:46:29] <katsmeow> don't most guys shave only under the eyes?, not above?
[01:50:40] <rue_house> sometimes my hand wanders
[01:51:00] <katsmeow> oh
[01:51:27] <rue_house> one day, if its the same mower, he will sheer the key and when he tries to start it, it'll tear his arm off
[01:51:33] <rue_house> or so it will try
[01:52:19] <rue_house> arg, its 11:30 how do i never get to bed on time for a work night
[01:52:27] <katsmeow> i dunno
[01:52:36] <katsmeow> 1:30 here, i need to goto bed
[01:52:59] <katsmeow> gnites
[01:53:01] <rue_house> gnitht
[20:35:56] <__moon__> hay rue
[20:43:07] <__moon__> 3 WIRE CIRCUITS HALP!!
[21:33:35] * ALREADY sets a HALF HOUR timer
[21:34:04] <ALREADY> [21:08] *** Topic is 'HEY GIVE ME A HALF HOUR TO ANSWER ALREADY!'
[21:34:05] <ALREADY> [21:08] *** Set by rue_more on Fri Feb 21 20:49:34
[21:35:03] <__moon__> http://www.webwhiteboard.com/#39xdhxd5
[21:39:44] <katsmeow> i grabbed 9 sheets of glass ~2.5x2.5 ft, in aluminum edging frames, and a so-called 3hp dc motor , all for $7
[21:40:42] <katsmeow> mirc had a whiteboard script about 14 yrs ago
[22:23:18] <katsmeow> 1050 PCS NIPPON CHEMICON MV50VC47MH10 8X10 CAPACITORS <<== sold for $3
[22:33:58] <rue_house> :)
[22:34:10] <rue_house> I have a few shower dooors that are aluminum framed glass
[22:34:16] <rue_house> got them for solar panels
[22:34:45] <rue_house> kat are you an antiquiter?
[22:34:47] <katsmeow> i got some sliding glass doors too, too heavy to use for solar
[22:35:19] <katsmeow> err, cannot parse, looks like a prank
[22:35:40] <rue_house> no
[22:35:45] <rue_house> a stuff collector
[22:35:56] <rue_house> so, it would take me 4 days to drive to alabma
[22:35:58] <katsmeow> of antiques? no
[22:36:37] <rue_house> crap, my passport expired, thats hard to redo
[22:36:55] <rue_house> send the damn thing in and wait 6 weeks
[22:37:09] <rue_house> they process it in the first week, and hold it for 5
[22:37:45] <rue_house> you can get it done faster IF ITS NOT EXPIRED
[22:37:48] <katsmeow> i am wanting to leave here, not collect more stuff here
[22:37:53] <rue_house> mhm
[22:38:50] <katsmeow> loking at a TMS27C256-20JL with a glas window, datasheet places are saying it's a PROM
[22:39:11] <rue_house> heh
[22:39:18] <rue_house> C was for eeprom
[22:39:21] <rue_house> too
[22:40:11] <katsmeow> well, i have bigger flash chips, if i could figure how to use them
[22:40:28] <rue_house> sectors and crap
[22:40:41] <rue_house> thats why I like the 28xnnn
[22:40:49] <rue_house> they program like slow srams
[22:41:03] <rue_house> auto erase and everything
[22:41:23] <rue_house> no page erase and load and junk
[22:41:53] <katsmeow> gotta erase 64k to save one byte, uh huh
[22:44:30] <rue_house> hmm
[22:44:42] <rue_house> 4 days in, 4 days back, 8 days
[22:44:52] <rue_house> + a few days
[22:44:59] <rue_house> 2 weeks
[22:45:05] <rue_house> 40 hours of driving
[22:45:07] <rue_house> hmm
[22:45:46] <rue_house> is there a Leroy Brown listed in south Alabama?
[22:46:00] <katsmeow> 100% not worth it, unless you need that huge air compressor+motor+intercooler+tank
[22:46:13] <rue_house> I dont have a 5 ton
[22:46:15] <katsmeow> prolly 1000's of Leroy Brown
[22:46:44] <rue_house> huh
[22:46:54] <rue_house> are you in south alabama?
[22:47:02] <rue_house> kinda mid isn't it?
[22:47:10] <rue_house> midnorth?
[22:47:25] <rue_house> 2 weeks is 14 days
[22:47:37] <rue_house> 6 days in between
[22:47:45] <rue_house> tho I get lost REALLY easy
[22:47:56] <katsmeow> i are east of Bham
[22:48:10] <rue_house> so, east alabama
[22:48:14] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm/401-PCS-CYPRESS-SEMICONDUCTOR-CY62128ELL-45SXIT-INTEGRATED-CIRCUITS-/361532665871 <<== 128kx8 sram
[22:48:21] <katsmeow> no, but east of Bham
[22:48:36] <rue_house> I wonder if thats the cache chips I have
[22:48:49] <katsmeow> 45ns is a slow cache
[22:48:56] <rue_house> hmm
[22:49:04] <rue_house> damn 1 hour left
[22:49:13] <rue_house> I came home from work and slept 2 hours
[22:49:14] <katsmeow> 1 hour of what?
[22:49:33] <Tom_itx> til his brain battery dies
[22:49:33] <rue_house> of conciousness
[22:49:40] <Tom_itx> ^^ see
[22:49:44] <katsmeow> hi Tom?
[22:50:30] * rue_house hits a drum
[22:50:30] <Tom_itx> hi cat?
[22:50:40] <katsmeow> umo is giving away reels of MV50VC47MH10 for $4
[22:50:52] * Tom_itx was just checking in before bed
[22:50:55] <rue_house> whats that
[22:51:25] <katsmeow> iirc, 50v 47ufd smd capacitor
[22:51:28] <Tom_itx> assembly quiz 2 was tonight
[22:51:42] <katsmeow> could yuo assemble the quiz?
[22:51:51] <Tom_itx> what do you think?
[22:51:54] <rue_house> hah
[22:52:04] <katsmeow> yeas!
[22:52:15] <Tom_itx> i assembled it then showed them their flaw in the quiz
[22:52:47] <katsmeow> they may flunk you for making them look dumb
[22:53:07] <Tom_itx> no but they were a bit perplexed
[22:53:29] <Tom_itx> it was a catia issue not their fault i believe
[22:53:37] <katsmeow> oh
[22:54:01] <rue_house> freaking $160 to redo the passport
[22:54:09] <katsmeow> yeow
[22:54:19] <Tom_itx> i think it's about 100 here
[22:54:36] <Tom_itx> you should come here to get it
[22:54:41] <Tom_itx> would be cheaper
[22:54:46] <Tom_itx> :)
[22:55:00] <katsmeow> you'd need to make 8 trips into the usa to avoid the border mail fees
[22:55:26] <rue_house> Where the application is made from the USA** or the passport is to be delivered to the USA**:
[22:55:27] <rue_house> 5-year validity ? Can$190*
[22:55:27] <rue_house> 10-year validity ? Can$260*
[22:57:25] <rue_house> oh, references dont have to be doctors or lawyesr anymore
[22:58:05] <katsmeow> indian chiefs?
[22:58:16] <rue_house> yup, politicians count too
[22:58:20] <rue_house> :)
[22:59:08] <rue_house> I wonder if 3 people could use all each other as interreferences
[22:59:20] <rue_house> (2 refs req'd)
[22:59:21] <katsmeow> most likely
[23:00:26] <katsmeow> 128 PCS NIPPON CHEMICON SMH450VN561M40X45T4 CAPACITOR
[23:00:39] <rue_house> your addicted to capacitors kat
[23:00:54] <katsmeow> i am wondering if i can mass enough caps to crank the car for 3 sec
[23:00:55] <rue_house> sorry to break it to you so bluntly
[23:01:10] <rue_house> a guy online did it with a 20F cap
[23:01:22] <rue_house> ever after the radio was on for hours
[23:01:22] <katsmeow> 20f is too much
[23:01:37] <zhanx> Evening
[23:01:42] <katsmeow> hi zhanx
[23:02:01] <zhanx> My garden is sprouting
[23:02:12] <katsmeow> car batteries would be much cheaper if they were 1/4 the size
[23:02:48] <zhanx> And then lack in applacition
[23:02:49] <katsmeow> charging thos caps up to 450v and switchering the volts down to a steady 12v ?
[23:03:10] <rue_house> mine too
[23:03:15] <katsmeow> and they last indefinately, instead of 3 years?
[23:03:22] <rue_house> no
[23:03:30] <katsmeow> ok, 10 yrs?
[23:03:35] <rue_house> all the caps you posted will leak in about 7
[23:03:43] <rue_house> well
[23:03:45] <rue_house> not the tant
[23:03:55] <rue_house> but I hear about random tant shorts
[23:03:58] <rue_house> *bam*
[23:04:00] <katsmeow> tants leak in 30
[23:04:28] <rue_house> the origional mac tants apparently are failing
[23:04:33] <rue_house> that was, 94?
[23:04:49] <rue_house> so lifetime of under 22 years
[23:04:56] <katsmeow> 86
[23:05:05] <rue_house> k
[23:05:17] <katsmeow> that's about the lifetime of the car
[23:05:22] <rue_house> oh yea
[23:05:24] <rue_house> hmm
[23:05:32] <rue_house> interesting point
[23:06:02] <zhanx> Cold starts or failure to start? Running accessories?
[23:06:04] <rue_house> I'm thinking i should strip down my truck, clean off all the metal, galvanize it, paint and reassemble
[23:06:21] <rue_house> stupid ignition keys that DONT TURN OFF
[23:06:22] <zhanx> Taxing the alternator
[23:06:32] <rue_house> alternators with 1 missing diode
[23:06:48] <rue_house> I have to take my scope to the truck alternator
[23:06:55] <rue_house> I'm sure it dropped a phase
[23:06:57] <katsmeow> plainly installing bigger alternators, and those that will put out *!*POWER*!* at idle
[23:07:02] <zhanx> Caps and cars are for stereo long right now
[23:07:10] <zhanx> Err for
[23:07:23] <katsmeow> huh?
[23:07:28] <zhanx> Not sure where that long came from
[23:07:31] <rue_house> I cant insert that word to make anythng legible
[23:07:44] <katsmeow> me either
[23:07:52] <zhanx> Yea I know
[23:07:59] <rue_house> I'm running out of itterations...
[23:08:16] <zhanx> Caps and cars for stereo only right now
[23:08:30] <rue_house> it still dont' parse right
[23:08:47] <rue_house> application inversion of objects
[23:08:58] <zhanx> I give up
[23:09:20] <rue_house> I think your only using your car as a stereo
[23:09:34] <rue_house> and the caps are for the car stereo?
[23:09:44] <rue_house> the differece is not null tho
[23:09:49] <rue_house> ok, supper
[23:10:02] <rue_house> rice and ________________________
[23:10:07] <rue_house> hmmm
[23:10:14] <zhanx> Fish
[23:10:24] <katsmeow> rue won't eat meat
[23:10:33] <rue_house> refried beans, ravioli, meatballs and gravy, ...
[23:10:40] <rue_house> I dont eat fish or birds
[23:10:49] <rue_house> cows and pigs
[23:10:54] <zhanx> With oyster sauce, match stick carrots and onions
[23:11:05] <rue_house> no sea stuff
[23:11:14] <katsmeow> what do you make the meatballs with?
[23:11:23] <rue_house> people pee in the sea you know!
[23:11:42] <rue_house> anyhow
[23:11:55] <rue_house> refried beans, ravioli, meatballs and gravy, mushroom soup....
[23:12:05] <rue_house> or catchup
[23:12:07] <zhanx> Rue I lots of Asian food
[23:12:13] <zhanx> Lots
[23:12:20] <rue_house> keep trying
[23:12:28] <rue_house> your looking for the word 'eat'
[23:12:31] <katsmeow> what do you make the meatballs with?
[23:12:41] <rue_house> I dont, they come in a can
[23:12:47] <rue_house> everything comes in cans
[23:12:47] <zhanx> Eat
[23:12:53] <rue_house> I just go to the can isle
[23:12:53] <zhanx> Found it
[23:13:03] <katsmeow> does so joe sloppy meat, even spicey
[23:13:16] <zhanx> Rue sprouts? Those are easy
[23:13:21] <katsmeow> sloppy joe meat is cow
[23:13:34] <rue_house> not much fresh, it goes bad before it can be eaten
[23:13:44] <rue_house> I only shop once per week
[23:13:54] <zhanx> I buy seeds
[23:14:10] <zhanx> But ok
[23:14:20] <rue_house> zhanx, you ok or are you having launguag module failures?
[23:14:30] <rue_house> I'm growing rubarb this year!
[23:14:47] <rue_house> I wonder how the raspberries will do
[23:14:56] <zhanx> I want some rubarb. No I need to turn off the tv
[23:15:01] <rue_house> trying something completely different with the potatoes
[23:15:10] <zhanx> Would help my typing
[23:15:19] <katsmeow> earplugs
[23:15:22] <rue_house> zhanx, a good way of achiving that is to cancel the cable
[23:15:31] <zhanx> Potatoes and yeast?
[23:15:33] <rue_house> tv is easy to turn off when its all static
[23:15:40] <zhanx> No cable netflix
[23:15:55] <rue_house> well, thats short lived, not much on netflix
[23:16:06] <rue_house> oh, get canada netflix, its much mroe pathetic
[23:16:16] <zhanx> Naaa
[23:16:16] <rue_house> tell me the IP's of your DNS servers
[23:16:36] <rue_house> I want US netflux
[23:16:51] <zhanx> I use Google but I can check my provider for you
[23:17:07] <rue_house> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[23:17:13] <rue_house> er you on windows still?
[23:17:17] <katsmeow> vpn into the usa, and use them till they realise they get 5000 people from that same ip
[23:17:51] <rue_house> I figured it out, microsoft was required to put in those securrity things in windows, which is why all the upgrades are free and required
[23:18:11] <zhanx> Sent pm rue
[23:18:31] <katsmeow> usa congress is passing a bill to force all oem to install backdoors into everything, and tell the feds how to use them
[23:18:32] <rue_house> -l
[23:18:50] <katsmeow> windoes has had backdoors since win95
[23:18:53] <rue_house> thats why the windows 10 thing, its the only reason that the upgrade would be free and required
[23:19:04] <zhanx> Well they got tired of doing themselves
[23:19:05] <rue_house> yea, securrity like swiss cheese
[23:19:24] <zhanx> But I am still on Linux rue
[23:19:36] <rue_house> cool stuff
[23:19:40] <rue_house> go linux!
[23:19:57] <zhanx> I actually upgraded the other day
[23:19:58] <rue_house> katsmeow, you should make and play with a linux machien
[23:20:20] <rue_house> the mandatroy upgrades are going around here
[23:20:26] <zhanx> My kernel is still a year out of date but works
[23:20:46] <rue_house> my laptop isn't doing it at work, but I think its cause of a certian entry I ahve in resolv.conf filtering microsoft.com
[23:20:59] <rue_house> to 127.0.0.1
[23:21:02] <rue_house> ;)
[23:21:13] <rue_house> I did it to kill ads
[23:21:15] <zhanx> Host file reconfigured does that
[23:21:29] <katsmeow> i have had no upgrade attempts here, posible because M$ is 127.0.0.1 and my puters are too old
[23:21:54] <zhanx> I have tons and xp actually wants to push a new update
[23:21:56] <rue_house> they dont sem to be trying to pull up anything xp or lower
[23:22:04] <rue_house> oh
[23:22:05] <rue_house> hmm
[23:22:11] <zhanx> Xp and higher
[23:22:28] <katsmeow> i have xpee and vista
[23:22:42] <zhanx> Too many people closed off the xerox backdoor
[23:23:00] <katsmeow> xerox on a puter?
[23:23:23] <zhanx> On xp it was part of the backdoor
[23:23:34] <rue_house> you know, to make a good back door, you would really want the PC to call home every so often so you dont have to worry about network traversal
[23:23:57] <katsmeow> rue, how do you think it updates the time every time you boot it?
[23:23:59] <rue_house> so technically, you just have to watch for a W10 machine touching something outside on somekinda regular interval
[23:24:28] <katsmeow> every windoes OS since win95 phones a time keeper on bootup
[23:24:31] <rue_house> is there a xerox process?
[23:24:37] <zhanx> Or edit your host file on a windows machine
[23:24:39] <katsmeow> i never heard of one
[23:24:47] <zhanx> No its a svrhost
[23:24:58] <rue_house> oh
[23:25:01] <zhanx> There is a xerox folder
[23:25:09] <katsmeow> every console app uses srvhost
[23:25:17] <rue_house> I'v not run windwos myself since 3.1
[23:25:35] <rue_house> well, no
[23:25:45] <rue_house> I had a 98se machie for quite a while
[23:25:55] <rue_house> I have an NT machine *SOMEWHERE*
[23:25:56] <zhanx> I got an xp box also right now (for now)
[23:26:39] <katsmeow> i has a C:\Program Files\xerox\nwwia but it's empty
[23:27:13] <rue_house> it would be interesting trying to identify the machiens checking in,
[23:27:22] <rue_house> one option would be mac address
[23:27:37] <zhanx> Netshark
[23:27:39] <rue_house> but more likley, the M$ account they already require you have to register windows
[23:27:59] <katsmeow> each FF and chrome install has a unique id too
[23:28:13] <zhanx> Wireshark my bad
[23:28:45] <rue_house> so, what do they do if your upgradding from a version of windows that didn't require you to have a microsoft account?
[23:28:48] <rue_house> hmm
[23:28:55] <rue_house> they must make you get one
[23:29:06] <zhanx> Or assign one
[23:29:24] <rue_house> if your going to break into someone, its prolly someone of interest
[23:29:29] <rue_house> and you will want to know who they are
[23:29:56] <rue_house> then again, browser cookies can give you a means
[23:29:58] <rue_house> huh
[23:30:20] <rue_house> society is interseting
[23:30:42] <rue_house> see, the other solution is that all information is accessable to everyone
[23:30:43] <katsmeow> there's an exploit in FF too, because all teh addons share their namespace, and upgrades aren't necessarily vetted by Mozzilla, and they don't check that sorta stuff anyhoo
[23:30:58] <rue_house> and nobody does anything that they dont want known they do
[23:31:08] <rue_house> but that changes what people accept people doing
[23:31:31] <rue_house> anyone can know anything about anyone..
[23:31:56] <katsmeow> if you read a Washingtom Post or LA Tines page aboutt he Taliban (remember them?), you are logegd as researching terrorist organisations
[23:32:03] <zhanx> Is it bad I use command Line for shady sites still?
[23:32:19] <katsmeow> how does cmd line help you?
[23:32:34] <zhanx> Zero cookies
[23:32:42] <rue_house> society is just starting to become self-aware, the conciquinces are interesting to watch develop
[23:33:14] <katsmeow> yo can delete cookies anyhow, but how do you get the webpage from a command line?
[23:33:15] <rue_house> there must be a site that shows you all your public cookies
[23:33:36] <zhanx> Kat linux
[23:33:47] <katsmeow> winblos doesn't come with wget
[23:33:53] <katsmeow> o
[23:34:00] <katsmeow> i thought you were using xp
[23:34:12] <katsmeow> how do you see pics?
[23:34:17] <zhanx> No I made an xp box
[23:34:28] <zhanx> You dont
[23:34:34] <katsmeow> i do
[23:35:04] * katsmeow offers some cornbread
[23:35:16] <zhanx> For shady sites you don't want some stuff etc
[23:35:39] <rue_house> huh, I cant find a page that shows what public cookies you have right now
[23:36:03] <katsmeow> browserspy.dk
[23:36:25] <katsmeow> i show no cookies, and all the wrong other info
[23:36:53] <katsmeow> strangely, got a popup sayng my chrome was outdated, and needed to upgrade, i have no chrome
[23:37:20] <rue_house> nono, I want a webpage that shows me the cookies it can find
[23:38:11] <katsmeow> the one that runs a list against the browser, in the webpage, to see which your browser highlites and tells the site it highlited?
[23:38:27] <katsmeow> i know nothing about it
[23:38:42] <katsmeow> ;-)
[23:38:58] <rue_house> there are supposed to be cookie-sucking websites, so why isn't there one that shows you the cookies it can suck?
[23:39:30] <katsmeow> because in the modern browser, the cookie can be sent only to the same root that sent it to you
[23:39:46] <katsmeow> however, it can still tell anyone that you got a cookie from that root
[23:40:35] <rue_house> I thought there was an exploit that let you see any public cookies
[23:40:38] <katsmeow> AND, since every site uses google analytics, google knows what sites you visit
[23:41:25] <katsmeow> long before there was a FF and plugins to defeat that, i used Proxomitron to clip that crap outa webpages
[23:41:55] <rue_house> what if I say I want every subdomain of the site www.
[23:41:59] <katsmeow> at one point, i ran a php script on my webdoman to filter webpages
[23:42:10] <katsmeow> www isn't a domain
[23:42:21] <rue_house> no, but what if I said it was
[23:42:34] <rue_house> I wonder what I'd get
[23:42:38] <rue_house> supper! I need supper!
[23:42:44] <katsmeow> try it, you host your site
[23:44:28] * katsmeow would http://designerthinking.com/proxy?password&http://someplace.com/pagename.html and get a nicely cleaned webpage
[23:44:59] <rue_house> its amazing how little content the main page usually is
[23:45:13] <rue_house> tho the amount of javascript in the google search page is insane
[23:45:16] <katsmeow> 90% of the web can be thrown away
[23:45:19] <rue_house> that blank looking page
[23:45:55] <rue_house> with its a=b;b=c+5;if(r) javascript
[23:46:12] <rue_house> worse than any old basic code
[23:46:13] <katsmeow> i know, they don't want you to know what it's doing
[23:46:56] <katsmeow> they run a obsfucator that reduces the var names to single letters, eliminates spaces, \t, \r, and \n
[23:59:46] <katsmeow> http://www.questionablecontent.net/
