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[00:08:29] <rue_shop3> hahahaha I just spent a half hour making a 7mm collar, but I needed a 6mm one
[00:09:09] <katsmeow> good practice, eh?
[00:09:27] <rue_shop3> its just a tool
[00:09:47] <rue_shop3> 2 mins to bed time, I'm gonna start supper
[00:10:37] <katsmeow> good plan
[00:11:10] <rue_shop3> most of the time was cleaning down a verry large, verry ugly peice of round bar
[00:11:21] <rue_shop3> I cleaned up more than I needed so it'll go better next time
[00:12:58] <katsmeow> any idea how common data length sizes are under 65536 bytes vs over 65536 chars long?
[00:15:31] <katsmeow> can i store all there is to know about any one item, in 65536 bytes?
[00:16:32] <katsmeow> (there can be 65536 byte subfields, like COWS is 65536, but then tehre's (COWS in Equador) and (Bob's cows)
[00:17:36] <katsmeow> "Operation is not guaranteed if an area designated as a reserved area in this manual is accessed." Because the cpu should be unable to access this manual under normal conditions.
[00:22:48] <rue_house> ,.... ?
[00:23:18] <katsmeow> which? really wanna know about how you feel about data lengths
[00:25:06] <katsmeow> happy midnite
[00:27:10] <rue_house> Only time I deal with data lengths is in sequential data streams
[00:27:26] <rue_house> I try to keep them as sort as I can, usually under 6 bytes / packet
[00:28:06] <rue_house> I feel good about today, got lots of stuff, and I got something done for the robot arm
[00:28:08] <katsmeow> so you don't have data like stored webpages, or data displays?
[00:28:24] <rue_house> streams of positions for or from things
[00:28:32] <katsmeow> k
[00:29:32] * katsmeow is trying to justify staying with 8 and 16bit addressing for different things
[00:29:48] <rue_house> hmm
[00:29:54] <rue_house> so you mean things like images?
[00:30:12] <katsmeow> text, data files (boiler logs), etc
[00:32:42] <katsmeow> 256bit indexes and 8bit-aligned and 16bit max addresses makes the math for compicated addressing so much faster
[00:33:41] <katsmeow> like dealing with a addy for a string you need a lokup for, you have the start of the text, an index to the word, and an index to the letter, and then the same for the lookup, that's 4 ADDs to do for each letter compare int he two words
[00:46:14] <rue_house> so this is about block size?
[00:46:28] <katsmeow> ok
[00:53:48] <katsmeow> aside from usng a 4GB lookup table for each 16bit+16bit , there's the 3rd add, which might be limited to 256chars
[00:55:20] <katsmeow> to me, the problem screams for superwide memory that can be accessed 8bits at a time with a shifted bit, vs recalculating the whole address each time
[00:56:07] <katsmeow> but a 256 byte x 2048 bit ram ?
[00:56:25] <katsmeow> a fake EDO out of a sram ?
[00:57:38] * katsmeow sighs and considers the olde even-odd ram scheme
[00:58:51] * katsmeow wonders if rue is burning the rice
[00:59:16] <rue_house> sorta
[01:00:21] <rue_house> your mind works in machines based on databases
[01:00:42] <rue_house> mymind works in machines based on state machines
[01:02:12] <katsmeow> i was trying to reduce hardware and speed up nodes, stuff flying around in the nodes toggles by bits is still a state machine, sorta
[01:11:37] <katsmeow> http://imgur.com/gallery/qf4jVss
[01:14:44] <rue_house> it dosn't help when I second one comes in to get the first one
[20:55:54] <^kat^-afk> http://radblast.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=BMX&brand=wui&num=1&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=1&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&transy=0&showlabels=0&severe=0&rainsnow=1&lightning=1&smooth=0
[21:44:53] <__M00N__> nantuket
[21:59:42] <^kat^-afk> why did nan take it?
[22:06:20] <rue_shop3> didn't take long to remake the collar
[22:27:41] <Tom_itx> 38hr print still goin when i left
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[22:39:55] <^kat^-afk> http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/105906/PHILIPS/P89C51RC2HBBD.html
[22:43:49] <^kat^-afk> 3 mips
[22:46:53] <^kat^-afk> 50 PCS PANASONIC ECET2AA123FA CAPACITORS , 12000ufd@100v , $8, 4 bids, 20 hrs, 600,000 ufd total capacitance ,
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[22:46:53] <^kat^-afk> 391425802169
[23:07:58] <rue_shop3> oo 89c51? isn't that the uart with the reasonable pin count?
[23:10:14] <^kat^-afk> 80C51 , a 4-port microcontroler circa 1980 , 3 mips @ 20Mhz
[23:10:35] <^kat^-afk> onboard ram, flash, reprogrammable while it;s running, etc
[23:11:12] <^kat^-afk> it's in a dip-40 in 1980, it's in a 10x10 qfp j-lean on ebay now
[23:11:18] <^kat^-afk> j-leaD
[23:14:05] <rue_shop3> oh 89 is the flash version
[23:14:09] <rue_shop3> I was thinking of 8051
[23:14:11] <rue_shop3> no
[23:14:13] <rue_shop3> ...
[23:14:16] <rue_shop3> <error>
[23:15:01] <zhanx> Evening
[23:15:02] <rue_house> 8251
[23:15:51] <^kat^-afk> 50 PCS PANASONIC ECET2AA123FA CAPACITORS , 12000ufd@100v , $8, 4 bids, 20 hrs, 600,000 ufd total capacitance , eBay item number: 391425802169
[23:19:24] <rue_shop3> not into caps
[23:19:27] <rue_shop3> sorry
[23:19:30] <rue_shop3> 8951
[23:21:45] <^kat^-afk> thinking zhanx and rail guns again, 600,000ufd would make a LOT of current
[23:22:18] <zhanx> Yes it would but tomorrow I find out if I have a job
[23:22:39] <^kat^-afk> <cough>
[23:22:45] <^kat^-afk> damn i hope you do
[23:23:20] <zhanx> We will see, don't help I have a front axle and frame off a truck right now
[23:23:52] <zhanx> If I don't I don't etc etc
[23:25:26] <zhanx> 4 in of snow at least outside now
[23:25:35] <zhanx> So much for rain
[23:26:37] <^kat^-afk> dehydrated rain
[23:26:49] <zhanx> Cold rain
[23:28:12] <^kat^-afk> cold solid low-density rain
[23:30:55] <zhanx> Good thing I brou my garden inside
[23:31:11] <^kat^-afk> fur shur
[23:31:45] <rue_shop3> eyes snapping shut again...
[23:31:53] <rue_shop3> I made some progress tho
[23:42:42] * ^kat^-afk is wondering about food, and if it's healthy to eat it
[23:44:53] <__M00N__> fodd is heathy
[23:44:57] <__M00N__> food*
[23:45:38] <rue_shop3> it seems to be recommended to eat more than 2 and less than 4 times per day
[23:45:42] <^kat^-afk> unless it's high glycemic, or fatty, or high carb, or high sugar, or etc
[23:45:57] <rue_shop3> or salty
[23:46:03] <^kat^-afk> i think i have narrowed the good foods down to some fish, shrimp, seaweed, berries, brussle sprouts, and a few beans and nuts each day
[23:46:19] <^kat^-afk> :-/
[23:46:32] <rue_shop3> I narrowed it down to rice
[23:47:02] <rue_shop3> rice can be flavored with things
[23:47:03] <^kat^-afk> rice isn't that good for yu, and brown rice (maybe black rice) is worth eating
[23:47:16] <rue_shop3> like refried black beans
[23:47:18] <^kat^-afk> white rice is good for making paste with
[23:47:39] <rue_shop3> the key sis that rice isn't anything for you
[23:47:58] <^kat^-afk> but it is calories
[23:48:00] <rue_shop3> and if you eat nothing your not eating
[23:48:04] <rue_shop3> it is?
[23:48:24] <rue_shop3> ok a human dissipates 100w for 24 hours
[23:48:41] <rue_shop3> so, every 24 hours, how many calories should be added
[23:49:14] <rue_shop3> 2x10^9
[23:49:34] <rue_shop3> 2000000000 calories
[23:49:39] <rue_shop3> 2000000k calories
[23:49:43] <rue_shop3> 2000m calories
[23:49:48] <rue_shop3> 2 Gcal
[23:49:50] <^kat^-afk> 0% Off Hurry! Your watched item is now on sale.
[23:49:59] <rue_shop3> hah
[23:50:20] <rue_shop3> so, if I need 2Gcal, how many bowls of rice do I need to eat
[23:50:28] <rue_shop3> wait..
[23:50:30] <^kat^-afk> i shall buy 0% more of them then!!
[23:50:30] <rue_shop3> 100*24
[23:50:40] <rue_shop3> yea, 2400wh
[23:50:41] <rue_shop3> oops
[23:50:58] <rue_shop3> 2063628 calories/day
[23:51:03] <rue_shop3> 2063.628k calories/day
[23:51:07] <rue_shop3> 2Mcal
[23:51:41] <rue_shop3> 2Mcal/day
[23:51:47] <rue_shop3> oops
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[23:52:03] <rue_shop3> sleep is about 8 hours, the power level must be different
[23:52:18] <rue_shop3> all with lots of reallocated blocks
[23:52:32] <rue_shop3> and lots more ready to go bad
[23:53:07] * ^kat^-afk nods
[23:53:19] <rue_shop3> hold on I'll post the new images
[23:56:18] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm6/p1070915.jpg
[23:56:28] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/robots/arm6/p1070916.jpg
[23:56:45] <rue_house> the small gears will be driven by cables
[23:57:30] <^kat^-afk> a lot of my dl speeds are 125 bytes/sec atm, but i will try to look at them
[23:57:57] <rue_house> good thing I only use 640x480
[23:58:21] <^kat^-afk> i use 800x :-P
[23:59:13] <rue_house> awe, neither of them are at an angle you can see the DIY rivets with
[23:59:35] <rue_house> the small gear is rivited to the sleeve thing by two brass rivets
[23:59:38] <^kat^-afk> how do you attach the brass gears to the nylon gears?
[23:59:55] <rue_house> the nylon attaches to the ahafts
