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[00:06:42] <moon_> HAY RUE
[00:06:46] <moon_> CHECK THIS OUT
[00:06:50] <moon_> http://loveme.com/women/info161059.htm
[00:07:04] <^kat^> is that you?
[00:07:07] <moon_> you look good in this picture
[00:07:32] <moon_> me moon me?
[00:07:35] <^kat^> izzat a rumor?
[00:07:36] <moon_> I wish
[00:07:50] <moon_> its says rue (dan)
[00:08:02] <^kat^> wait, you wish you looked like her? all skinny like?
[00:08:09] <moon_> sure
[00:08:23] <moon_> Id like to be sexy
[00:08:29] <^kat^> her arms aren't eve fully functional!
[00:09:12] <moon_> yeah kinda shafty hay?
[00:09:28] <^kat^> like plain pipe, yeas
[00:10:04] <moon_> XD
[00:10:39] <moon_> I do like asian girls though
[00:11:17] <moon_> peace
[00:11:31] <^kat^> oh, then look on youtube for Kalifina and Fripside and FictionJunction and Keiko Mitsui
[00:24:38] <rue_house> and gone
[00:25:38] <rue_house> haha
[00:25:51] <rue_house> nice description of her arms kat :)
[00:26:42] * ^kat^ appreciates the functional
[00:31:54] <rue_shop3> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Mini-Keychain-Digital-LCD-Tire-car-Tyre-Air-Pressure-Gauge-For-Car-Auto-Motorcycle/32600353224.html
[00:32:11] <rue_shop3> did you see what was suggested to me today for pressure sensors for the mecha?
[00:32:18] <^kat^> no
[00:32:20] <rue_shop3> I think its a good idea
[00:32:38] <^kat^> what was the idea?
[00:32:50] <rue_shop3> ^ those
[00:33:21] <rue_shop3> they rank really high on the affordability and plausability scales
[00:34:38] <^kat^> no led lite? geeeze
[00:35:25] <^kat^> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Mini%20Keychain%20Digital%20LCD%20Tire%20car&clk_rvr_id=1003967508199&mfe=search
[00:35:26] <rue_shop3> heh
[00:35:54] <rue_shop3> yea I got them cheaper
[00:35:58] <rue_shop3> $2.41 iir
[00:36:00] <rue_shop3> c
[00:36:22] <^kat^> but did you see the actual size ? :
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s5QAAOSwCQNWg9~m/s-l300.jpg
[00:36:48] <rue_shop3> yea tiny
[00:37:06] <^kat^> it's beiigger than that car tires!
[00:37:06] <rue_shop3> 100 psi sensor, that works
[00:37:12] <rue_shop3> hu?
[00:37:31] <rue_shop3> :) and which image YOU lookin at my dear?
[00:37:44] <^kat^> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s5QAAOSwCQNWg9~m/s-l300.jpg
[00:38:08] <rue_shop3> 150w, 12V halogen supply
[00:38:25] <rue_shop3> unfliltered mains inverter, so you get 60Hz flashing
[00:38:36] <^kat^> huh?
[00:38:42] <rue_shop3> unfiltered output transformer so you get prolly 40Khz noise too
[00:38:59] <^kat^> what image are you looking ay dear?
[00:39:15] <rue_shop3> the table infront of me
[00:39:22] <rue_shop3> I'm refitting a box for an led supply
[00:39:26] <^kat^> o
[01:23:59] * ^kat^ waves gnites
[23:13:52] <katsmeow> inattentional blindness
[23:26:43] <katsmeow> 150+ cognitive biases have been found in humans, which generate mistakes in their thinking or activities every day
[23:32:56] <rue_shop3> hi
[23:33:09] <rue_shop3> do they list them?
[23:33:45] <rue_shop3> each of those gives a clue to how the brain works
[23:34:29] <rue_shop3> I got most of the air line in for the sand blaster
[23:35:22] <katsmeow> BBC tv show on the human brain
[23:35:42] <rue_shop3> oh
[23:36:17] <rue_shop3> I have an antiprogress module
[23:36:26] <rue_shop3> it kicks in when I get too much done
[23:36:30] <rue_shop3> everything comes to a halt
[23:36:56] <rue_shop3> every so often it clicks out and I get lots of things done tho
[23:37:10] <rue_shop3> I know if I could get around it I could get an amazing amount of things done
[23:37:21] <rue_shop3> to those who developed it :P
[23:38:02] <rue_shop3> any good progesss for things yourself today kat?
[23:38:36] <katsmeow> no, my antiprogress module was engaged, i blamed the sore throat and still coughing up phlegm every few mnutes
[23:40:51] <rue_shop3> I assembled the shunt regulator for the solar charger for the yard lights
[23:40:53] <rue_shop3> its working
[23:41:20] <rue_shop3> at 14.4V it shuts a half amp nicely, the solar cells only put out 1/4A
[23:41:48] <rue_shop3> now I have to test my cutoff circuit, its supposed to turn off the load at 11V
[23:42:12] <rue_shop3> give it .5V headroom to death incase there isn't sun for a few days
[23:42:29] <rue_shop3> the shunt regulator leaks 0.1mA when idle
[23:42:44] <rue_shop3> I dont think thats tooooo bad
[23:42:52] <katsmeow> why a shunt, instead of a series?
[23:43:03] <rue_shop3> solar cells
[23:43:08] <katsmeow> so?
[23:43:09] <rue_shop3> I only have .25A comming in
[23:43:15] <katsmeow> so?
[23:43:31] <rue_shop3> its more efficient to shunt extra power than to try to monitor not-enough power
[23:44:01] <rue_shop3> I have two solar controllers, their idle consumption has killed 3 batteries
[23:44:03] <rue_shop3> down to 4V
[23:44:09] <rue_shop3> (12V lead-acid)
[23:44:16] <katsmeow> .25 amp thru a .006 ohm mosfet is a Vdrop of only 1.5 millivolts
[23:45:01] <rue_shop3> series regulator would be less efficient
[23:45:05] <rue_shop3> in this case
[23:45:18] <rue_shop3> casue the cells produce about 20V
[23:45:42] <katsmeow> you are still limiting the battery voltage to 14
[23:45:44] <rue_shop3> they would increase the impedence, causing the avaialable current to drop
[23:46:12] <rue_shop3> the cells would't put out as much current at oc 20V as they do "sc" at 14.4V
[23:46:19] <katsmeow> but your available current is going to ground theu rht shunt
[23:46:32] <rue_shop3> only *after* its up to 14.4V
[23:46:46] <rue_shop3> solar cells constant current source
[23:47:23] <rue_shop3> if I used a dc-dc it would be better, but there would be more loss because of the controller
[23:47:44] <katsmeow> what if you dropped the voltage from 20 to 14 with a boost regulator that output 14v to chnage the battery?
[23:48:00] <rue_shop3> controller overhead
[23:48:08] <rue_shop3> at MAX I have .25A available
[23:48:36] <rue_shop3> its solar, dumping the excess after the battery is charged is not a waste of power
[23:48:40] <rue_shop3> ...
[23:48:50] <rue_shop3> unless I had something else I could put it into
[23:48:53] <rue_shop3> which I dont
[23:49:33] <rue_shop3> do yo usee where I'm comming from?
[23:49:52] <katsmeow> yeas, it's counter intuitive
[23:50:02] <rue_shop3> indeed
[23:50:45] <katsmeow> the chanrge controllers should have found the highest *power point* for those panels, and translated the panel output to the 14v batteries
[23:50:56] <rue_shop3> they aren't that expensive :)
[23:51:20] <rue_shop3> and I think the ones that are, need panels with more than 3w
[23:52:00] <rue_shop3> numbers might be out, iirc, they say 1.7w ea
[23:52:38] <rue_shop3> so, a charger limit of 14.4 and a output cutoff of 11V and the battery should be good to do
[23:52:40] <rue_shop3> er go
[23:53:46] <rue_shop3> I wonder what voltage the peak power is at on a 20V panel when its in full sun...
[23:54:41] <rue_shop3> oooo, I want to run my load controller on a panel sometime
[23:54:52] <rue_shop3> my smart dummy load
[23:54:54] <rue_shop3> hahah
[23:55:11] <rue_shop3> yes, yes, I got that right, its a smart dummy load...
