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[00:10:53] <rue_shop3> :/
[00:11:03] <rue_shop3> feel for ya kat
[00:11:05] <rue_shop3> been there
[00:11:40] <katsmeow> http://www.walmart.com/search/?query=toothbrush%20firm&cat_id=0&sort=price_low
[00:11:53] <rue_shop3> the stuff going around is getting more aggressive every year
[00:12:00] <rue_shop3> that or the humans are getting weaker
[00:12:17] <rue_shop3> firm? k
[00:12:23] <katsmeow> prtty sue this wasn't the flu, it was an infection from having the fang pulled
[00:12:57] <rue_shop3> oh dear
[00:12:57] <katsmeow> yeas, "hard" turns up all the soft ones that reach hard-to-reach places
[00:13:15] <katsmeow> in the store there is a 6-$1 in a chinese brand
[00:13:30] <rue_shop3> I dont mind paying for a good one
[00:13:43] <rue_shop3> the bristles dont fall out too bad on the mid and high grade ones
[00:13:43] <katsmeow> i was wow at this one
[00:13:45] <katsmeow> 12 Pack Reach Crystal Clean Deep Dental Cleanse Bi-Level Firm Bristle Toothbrush
[00:13:45] <katsmeow> $13.95
[00:13:45] <katsmeow> Was $84.0
[00:13:45] <katsmeow> Save $70.05
[00:14:00] <rue_shop3> haha
[00:14:27] <rue_shop3> "we made a typo and, as a result, have put them on sale for 90% off"
[00:14:27] <katsmeow> the 6-$1 was the ONLY one labld firm in the store tho
[00:15:07] <rue_shop3> I expect about $5 ea, so most of these look descent
[00:15:34] <rue_shop3> the 12 pack of reach for $13 sounds really good
[00:15:57] <rue_shop3> it'll be a while before you in town I presume
[00:16:08] <katsmeow> cept that isn't in the store here, so i cannot buy it and send to you
[00:16:31] <rue_shop3> not a store in town you go to every few weeks?
[00:17:16] <katsmeow> i went to the Walmart for throat lozzenges today
[00:17:58] <rue_shop3> isnt' that about an hour drive?
[00:18:02] <katsmeow> This item is not available for pickup or at any of the Walmarts within 50 miles of your location.
[00:18:14] <rue_shop3> mile, mile....
[00:18:35] <rue_shop3> 80km...
[00:18:37] <rue_shop3> ouch
[00:18:54] <katsmeow> bham is an hr, "town" may refer to one 10 min up the driveway and then 10 min of acatual driving
[00:19:06] <rue_shop3> canada declared anything above 'soft' to be 'dangerous' so I just cannot get them in canada
[00:19:30] <rue_shop3> thus I cant really get stuff off my teeth
[00:20:49] <katsmeow> they warn heavily against firm here too, say people are brushing their gums away
[00:21:08] <katsmeow> use a more abrasive fangpaste?
[00:21:12] <rue_shop3> yea, I brush my teeth, not my gums
[00:25:25] <katsmeow> http://www.walmart.com/ip/12-Pack-Reach-Crystal-Clean-Deep-Dental-Cleanse-Bi-Level-Firm-Bristle-Toothbrush/47843130
[00:25:28] <katsmeow> cannot get
[00:25:50] <rue_shop3> talk about frustrating
[00:26:04] <rue_shop3> I'm gonna have to start using soft bbq cleaning brushes
[00:26:10] <katsmeow> i suggest you buy direct from that page, else i haveto buy fromt hat page and then re-ship to you
[00:26:34] <rue_shop3> 40:1 they dont ship to canada
[00:27:29] <katsmeow> :-/
[00:28:16] <katsmeow> try it, if they don't, then do a marketting test to see if other Canadians wold buy them from ebay
[00:28:43] <rue_shop3> hmmm
[00:29:04] <rue_shop3> I'll persue it in a while
[00:30:49] <rue_shop3> oh hum hum, what we gonna do fro robtoics tommorow
[00:31:57] <katsmeow> "what works best as a elmost joint?"
[00:32:05] <katsmeow> err, elbow
[00:32:12] <rue_shop3> its 2 hours
[00:32:21] <rue_shop3> they need to change subjects about 3 or 4 times
[00:33:53] <katsmeow> some 1x2 lumber, cheapest cabnet door hinges, screw-in eyelets, string
[00:44:02] <rue_shop3> breadboard 555 led flasher...
[00:45:01] <rue_shop3> take apart printer
[01:01:46] <katsmeow> kids mey wonder how taking apart printers helps them become robots
[01:03:06] <katsmeow> eventually, you might wanna show them how to use the parts they are saving, so they can rebuild you as needed
[01:03:41] * katsmeow wavers gnites
[22:13:31] <rue_shop3> 20 ton press works great for forming pipe clamps
[22:13:45] <rue_shop3> u--
[22:13:52] <rue_shop3> for anchoring down 1/2" pipe
[22:14:56] <rue_shop3> kat
[22:15:18] <rue_shop3> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/sandblaster/
[22:15:22] <rue_shop3> I gathered the images
[22:15:28] <rue_shop3> see last one for finish
[22:25:48] <katsmeow-afk> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/sandblaster/Microsoft.XMLHTTP ??
[22:27:41] <rue_shop3> hu?
[22:27:42] <rue_shop3> no
[22:27:44] <rue_shop3> just a dir
[22:28:06] <katsmeow-afk> it listed
[22:28:26] <rue_shop3> maybe its a virus insert
[22:28:30] <katsmeow-afk> ibet that electric air compressor motor didn;t run too well under the roof eave to
[22:28:33] <rue_shop3> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/sandblaster/sandblaster.jpg
[22:28:42] <rue_shop3> I'm all happy with cleaning it up today
[22:28:53] <rue_shop3> heh, its just hanging out there
[22:29:26] <rue_shop3> er, its running on the big compressor
[22:30:31] <rue_shop3> I wonder how long the gloves will last
[22:30:39] <rue_shop3> they aren't sand blasting gloves
[22:30:47] <rue_shop3> just long sleeved cleaning gloves
[22:31:44] <rue_shop3> I think its gonna take a while to dry out
[22:31:57] <rue_shop3> I had a large lamp in there for a while and it didn't drive off much water
[22:36:39] <katsmeow-afk> fan plus heat
[22:37:14] <rue_shop3> I had a small fan around, cant find it
[22:37:29] <rue_shop3> oh wait, I have like 200 computer fans
[22:37:43] <katsmeow-afk> is that a thorny branch there?
[22:53:29] <rue_shop3> yes
[22:53:41] <rue_shop3> its part of a plant that went crazy
[22:54:07] <rue_shop3> ok, so, I'v painted and moved the sand blaster
[22:54:24] <rue_shop3> finished up the majority of the disc sander
[22:54:43] <rue_shop3> (needs boltdown holes and a power switch, whatever)
[22:54:53] <rue_shop3> and poured the base for the vibration sorter
[22:54:53] <katsmeow-afk> i am *really* surprised you painted the steel that color
[22:55:09] <rue_shop3> I held a vote, red and black won
[22:55:40] <rue_shop3> I dont get to finish paint things much
[22:55:50] <rue_shop3> finishes them off nicely
[22:56:26] <rue_shop3> at this rate, I'm gonna have to start building the vacuum former to keep the count of unfinished projects up
[22:56:33] <katsmeow-afk> yeas, but that anti-theft color i coul dnot use?
[22:56:51] <rue_shop3> like your string, its red
[22:57:04] <rue_shop3> I use flourescent pink for anti-theft
[22:59:00] <rue_shop3> kat, its the SD in SDRAM just the latches they use between the bus and the memory chips?
[22:59:36] <katsmeow-afk> no
[22:59:59] <rue_shop3> so whats the diff between dram and sdram
[23:00:01] <katsmeow-afk> the clock is used internally, AND for latching control signals and data i/o
[23:00:43] <katsmeow-afk> dram doesn't use the clock for gating, and dram is usually older and slower
[23:01:36] <rue_shop3> iirc the ras and cas of the sdram dont really have anything to do with rows and columns
[23:02:08] <rue_shop3> and the address bus is used for 'commands'
[23:02:19] <rue_shop3> (as well)
[23:02:30] <katsmeow-afk> they sorta do, but like LBA addys on hdds, they may get virtualised to heck
[23:03:10] <rue_shop3> do all sdram modules have the PLL and latch chips?
[23:03:52] <katsmeow-afk> not that i know of
[23:04:18] <rue_shop3> that hackaday article has me REALLY scratching my head
[23:04:37] <katsmeow-afk> i am on my 2nd sleeping pill atm, so iirc, the pc-100, -133 don't
[23:04:51] <rue_shop3> there is SDRAM for laptops...
[23:06:50] <katsmeow-afk> i just pulled several boxes of sdram types, onle one box had a pll chip on the module
[23:07:07] <rue_shop3> of my box, only 5
[23:07:56] <rue_shop3> the datasheet for a random dram module looks like the nightmare I expect
[23:08:10] <rue_shop3> with the mux'd address lines and refresh cycles etc
[23:08:38] <katsmeow-afk> just use a couple of latches
[23:09:01] <rue_shop3> but you have to stay ahead of the processors read cycle
[23:09:24] <rue_shop3> the address bus is 2x the processor bus speed to do the addressing
[23:09:25] <katsmeow-afk> app sheets make it look easy, took only 4 chips t interface a cpu and a video chip t the drams in the vic20/c64
[23:09:41] <rue_shop3> I'd like to see that one
[23:09:54] <rue_shop3> the IIe had quite a bank of counters and mux chips
[23:10:10] <katsmeow-afk> no you don't: write all the latches, and have the last latch-stuff trigger the dram write at whatever it's speed is
[23:10:44] <rue_shop3> usually there was a delay line involved to do the sequencing...
[23:11:01] <katsmeow-afk> ditto for reading, stuff the addy latches, trigegr the read, the ram stuffs the data latch, you read it whenever you get around to it
[23:12:17] <rue_shop3> I have some ceramic DRAMS that I want to try to use for imaging one day
[23:12:34] <rue_shop3> and now I have avrs, so I should be just one borred evening away
[23:12:47] <rue_shop3> I popped the top on the drams...
[23:13:05] <katsmeow-afk> and they didn't oxidise away?
[23:13:18] <rue_shop3> there already oxide
[23:13:38] <rue_shop3> ya know, I'm not 100% on what the part numbers of them were...
[23:13:40] <rue_shop3> huh
[23:13:46] <katsmeow-afk> the aluminum jumper leads aren't
[23:13:49] <rue_shop3> hmm
[23:14:08] <rue_shop3> I wonder if thats why chips fail after 20 yrs or so
[23:14:21] <rue_shop3> didn't they used to use gold?
[23:14:57] <katsmeow-afk> i didn't keep track of who used what
[23:15:06] <rue_shop3> hmm
[23:17:07] <rue_shop3> your digits
[23:17:35] <rue_shop3> there havn't been wind storms today, maybe tommorow I can get more paint on them
[23:19:21] * katsmeow-afk is a lil peeved because she has some sdrams that burst a max of only 4 addresses
[23:19:49] <rue_shop3> 512 wasn't a standard number?
[23:20:10] <katsmeow-afk> no
[23:21:49] <katsmeow-afk> and i meen racking my lil brain with it's current fever, and i cannot come up with a way to do a JMP or a (operation and ststus bit test) in a sdram state machine
[23:22:35] <katsmeow-afk> jmp can happen ony in a "stop burst, load new start address, and initiate burst to the end of the row"
[23:22:54] <katsmeow-afk> and the end of the row may not be enoughbytes for a operation to continue
[23:23:06] <katsmeow-afk> so a new CAS addy will need to be loaded
[23:24:17] <katsmeow-afk> i am pretty sure that nce you make a tiny mudule with interface circuit to make the dram look static, you'll use it in several places
[23:25:35] <katsmeow-afk> CLK powers the refresh, the byte switching in bursting, and making sue the command lines are edge-aligned on the chip
[23:27:33] <katsmeow-afk> if your chip can do a long burst READ, that would be exelent for logging adc for your digital scope project
[23:30:07] <katsmeow-afk> according to this data sheet, the Samsnk K4H family can do only 8 address bursts at a time
[23:30:37] <katsmeow-afk> the ones i think you WILL hate are the pipelined sdrams
[23:31:21] <katsmeow-afk> you toss bits at the chips, and you wait 3 or 4 clocks to get anything
[23:31:35] <katsmeow-afk> while waiting, yo can toss more bits at it
[23:34:17] <__m00n__> Hay RUE
[23:41:50] <katsmeow-afk> hey zhanx, gnite zhanx
[23:42:05] <zhanx> Evening and gnite
