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[00:00:17] * katsmeow looks for a 74*558
[00:01:14] <katsmeow> found one
[00:02:02] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm/74S558N-MMI-SN74S558N-/262144812584
[00:03:58] <rue_house> 558?
[00:04:06] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:04:15] <rue_house> I never trust listing like that
[00:04:23] <rue_house> I doubt they really have what they list
[00:04:38] <rue_house> oh 558, the quad timer
[00:04:50] <rue_house> 74?
[00:04:55] <katsmeow> SN74S558N
[00:04:57] * rue_house scratches head
[00:05:03] <katsmeow> 74s558
[00:05:03] <rue_house> not lm558
[00:05:46] <rue_house> I give up, what is it?
[00:06:14] <katsmeow> 8x8 schottkey multiplier
[00:06:36] <katsmeow> 16 bit out, 60ns
[00:07:17] <rue_house> whats the access time of a ROM with 16 address lines?
[00:08:11] <katsmeow> which was bloody fast in it's day, now we'd use a K6R1016V1C-JC15 ram @ 20ns and much lower power
[00:08:32] <katsmeow> umm, rom times vary as much as ram timings
[00:15:56] <rue_house> I'm sorry
[00:16:10] <rue_house> I was going to give you a .hex file by now for a multiplier rom
[00:16:32] <rue_house> but the program I wrote to do this is having an issue that I'm not familiar with
[00:17:16] <katsmeow> or i could just do the math and save all teh data to the ram
[00:17:43] <rue_house> I should just be able to say that the memory ends at 0xffff and to run the formula D=(A&0xFF)*((A<<8)&0xFF) for every address
[00:18:01] <rue_house> and it should just spit out a .hex file
[00:18:12] <rue_house> :/
[00:18:17] <rue_house> not a good software day for me
[00:18:41] <katsmeow> address 00101100101101 = 1035
[00:18:55] <rue_house> esp when the calculator says to take off 124 ticks from the hole, and after 60 I'v already cut .5mm too much out
[00:19:19] <rue_house> calc 0b00101100101101
[00:19:19] <rue_house> 0b00101100101101 -->> 2861
[00:19:25] <rue_house> ?
[00:19:40] <katsmeow> paint it pink with a cut finger, and then everyone will agree that's a great basis to throw it away
[00:19:56] <rue_house> oh, I see, what you meant, 1035
[00:20:14] <katsmeow> yeas, 23 x 45 = 1035
[00:20:24] <katsmeow> i gave the real binary address bits
[00:20:39] <rue_house> calc 0b00101100*0b00101101
[00:20:39] <rue_house> 0b00101100*0b00101101 -->> 1980
[00:20:45] <katsmeow> ok
[00:20:57] <katsmeow> so we are both clever :-P
[00:21:07] <rue_house> I'm gonna go shut down the shop, figure out what to eat for supper
[00:21:31] <rue_house> I'd bet you could compile my command line calculator
[00:22:07] <rue_shop3> geez that aluminum stinks up the shop
[00:24:39] <rue_house> sometimes the house still smells like a trailer
[00:24:43] <rue_house> ickgh
[00:25:03] <katsmeow> because it is one?
[00:25:16] <katsmeow> 74s556
[00:26:04] <rue_house> kitty is reminding me I have to do poo detail
[00:28:36] <katsmeow> oops
[00:28:39] <katsmeow> 74s516
[00:29:10] <katsmeow> the 556 is *much* faster, but does less
[00:31:09] * rue_house glues a 74S00 to a lm556
[00:33:29] <rue_house> kat, would you help me with some algarba
[00:34:37] <rue_house> an X axis left home at t=0 and proceeded to accelerate by a factor of 3 untill its velocity reached 6, how far did X get away from home when it stopped accelerating
[00:35:07] <rue_house> so far my answer dosn't seem to be right
[00:35:28] <rue_house> cause its velocity is NOT 6 when it stopps accelerating
[00:36:00] <katsmeow> 1) not enough data, 2) it's after midnite
[00:39:28] <rue_house> ? thats enough data
[00:41:08] <katsmeow> no, you gave no data on the measure of the accleleration, otehr than the rate
[00:42:06] <katsmeow> 2 mph is a speed, accel can be 2 mphph
[00:42:33] <katsmeow> accel at a random speed at 3x faster per an unknown time cannot give you the distance
[00:43:57] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monoliithic-SN74S557N-NOS-dip40-qty-1-Ships-in-USA-tomorrow-/261883253199
[00:46:26] <katsmeow> MMI 1986 databook
[00:46:43] <katsmeow> i don't remember offhand where mine is, but i know it's blue
[00:48:22] <katsmeow> or that's the Motorola one
[00:48:52] <katsmeow> my databook shelf is 10ft long, piled 2ft high in places
[00:54:16] <katsmeow> AMD bought MonolithicMemories in 1987
[00:58:09] <katsmeow> yeow, a 117 MB Fairchild 74LS databook online, 1977, i think
[01:04:00] <rue_house> I hate it when I smell popcorn, and the only thing I'm cooking is rice
[01:04:20] <katsmeow> does rice pop ?
[01:04:30] <katsmeow> how do they make puffed rice then?
[01:05:21] <katsmeow> NLAS4684 Dual SPDT .5 ohm Analog Switch
[01:06:02] <katsmeow> 74LVX8051 Analog Multiplexer/Demultiplexer
[01:06:04] <rue_house> it usually means the rice cooker went wrong
[01:06:15] <rue_house> hmm .5 ohms
[01:06:28] <katsmeow> that's what i said
[01:06:39] <rue_house> I'm thinking of applications
[01:06:47] <rue_house> ^trying
[01:07:49] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=NLAS4684
[01:08:13] <rue_house> I forgot how to click the link for a sec
[01:08:27] <rue_house> if I lose my mind, will you help try to make me a new one?
[01:09:05] <katsmeow> ok
[01:09:06] <rue_house> TINYIER STUPID SMALL OUTLINE PACKAGE
[01:09:25] <rue_house> oh, I forgot the hypen
[01:09:29] <rue_house> TINYIER STUPID-SMALL OUTLINE PACKAGE
[01:10:08] <katsmeow> use a irf1404 as an analog switch? prolly have HUGE click coupling tho
[01:10:37] <rue_house> I wonder how you could balance out the turn on charge
[01:11:12] <rue_house> I suppose if you just switch at a really slow slew rate
[01:12:03] <katsmeow> meet it with a reverse current from a p-channel on the other side?
[01:12:43] <katsmeow> this is MONDAY again
[01:12:48] <rue_house> differential switching charge against the source
[01:13:34] <rue_house> katsmeow, yup 14339
[01:15:23] <katsmeow> "this is a 74ALS623N , the N means this chip has 20 male gender pins, but it is balanced with 10 on each side!"
[01:15:44] <katsmeow> "all the pins point downwards"
[01:16:24] <rue_house> its not a dual-sip package for strattling boards?
[01:16:52] <katsmeow> straddling , that's not a "recommended use"
[01:17:12] <rue_house> "but, the boards were .3" apart!"
[01:17:22] <rue_house> (stacked)
[01:17:50] <rue_house> it makes it easy, one board only needs a ground plane, the other only needs a vcc plane
[01:18:14] <katsmeow> err,,,, yeas
[01:18:22] <rue_house> just, dont ask to change chips...
[01:18:34] <katsmeow> i bet decoupling caps make everything worse, not better
[01:18:41] <rue_house> I suppose you could socket 1/2 of them
[01:19:02] <katsmeow> i see everyog on ebay is overcharging for 74*623 now
[01:19:04] <rue_house> I didn't use A SINGLE decoupling cap on my 4Mhz z80 system
[01:19:18] <katsmeow> yu used double ones?
[01:19:19] <rue_house> but the tape amp didn't work when I put it on the mainbaord
[01:19:36] <rue_house> not 1 decoupling cap
[01:19:48] <rue_house> I think there is a 4.7uf filter cap on the incomming power connector
[01:19:55] <rue_house> the bus noise is about 1.5V
[01:20:04] <rue_house> how the hell it works is beyond me
[01:20:51] <katsmeow> i have '543 , but no '623 , i wonder how that happened
[01:21:06] <katsmeow> oh, i remember, i didn't wanna do bidirectonal busses
[01:22:40] <katsmeow> i worked out a cache memory (or big-assed number of cpu registers), with one write buss and 2 read busses
[01:23:29] <rue_house> nice
[01:23:39] <rue_house> it what I call a reflex processor
[01:24:04] <rue_house> the seq opens the paths between the data sounce and dest, routing them thru whatever operations are req'd
[01:24:10] <rue_house> no lathing it everywhere
[01:24:21] <katsmeow> lathing ?
[01:24:25] <rue_house> ^c
[01:24:38] <katsmeow> clathing?
[01:24:47] <katsmeow> lacthing?
[01:24:50] <rue_house> NO! NOT LIKE THAT!
[01:24:53] <rue_house> :)
[01:25:02] * katsmeow falls over laughing
[01:25:20] <rue_house> I have a design for an optic computer that uses a spool of fiber for its memory (delay line)
[01:25:44] <rue_house> it was going to be reflex design
[01:26:15] <rue_house> io was expected to be a problem, the idea was to use lcd for inputs and laser recievers for outputs
[01:26:58] <rue_house> the main clock would be an optic feedback loop, a really slow machine (bottom practical end) was 500Mhz, 4Thz would be achivable
[01:27:03] <katsmeow> i worked out some optical logic, like a 128 input AND gate with only a couple pf input loading
[01:27:30] <rue_house> the two base gates are OR and XOR
[01:27:42] <rue_house> making everything from that is a challange
[01:27:45] <katsmeow> you can use ecl to 2Ghz, as a clock, loop a couple cheap recievers
[01:28:20] <rue_house> I wasn't able to set up a laser table, so, no progress
[01:28:29] <rue_house> in 21 year
[01:28:31] <rue_house> s
[01:28:54] <rue_house> still have some of the supplies tho
[01:29:32] <katsmeow> how fast can you make your photodetectors and emitters?
[01:30:23] <rue_house> there is a limitation that the inputs have to be wave-syncd with the internal laser, so the inputs have to be interruptive
[01:31:04] <rue_house> and now you know all the secrets of optic computing, geez am I bad with secrets
[01:31:57] <rue_house> before we know it, you will have a 4Thz 6502 system available :)
[01:32:41] <^kat^> ecl is still too pricey
[01:32:51] <^kat^> ditto agllium arsenide
[01:32:56] <^kat^> gallium
[01:33:13] <rue_house> I figured it would require about a 5W laser anyhow
[01:33:47] <^kat^> even trying to swipe OC-48 optical transducers, you find oout they aren't 48Ghz, they are 16 pcs of 2.5Ghz
[01:34:03] <rue_house> and I wasn't able to work out the effect of 5W of laser heating on a sheet of glass with about 4000 optic gates etched into it
[01:34:22] <^kat^> spread it ut, use mutiple sheets
[01:34:44] <^kat^> else you'd need a VERY precision dome, to keep the clock in phase at all points
[01:35:02] <rue_house> it just takes 1/2wave to turn an Xor gate into an OR gate
[01:35:23] * ^kat^ raises apaw and put it back down
[01:35:40] <rue_house> keep the secrets form the humans!
[01:35:50] <rue_house> or the universe wont be safe
[01:36:07] <rue_house> that said, they would put windows10 on it and it wouldn't run any faster than a 50Mhz 386 anyhow
[01:36:49] <^kat^> "this works great!" "well can't you make it more complicated?"
[01:37:11] <^kat^> i have a tooth ache, and cannot figure out which one
[01:37:30] <rue_house> windows 10 updates install microsoft programs and make them the default apps for their file types
[01:37:41] * ^kat^ nods
[01:37:50] <rue_house> funny, I had a toothache and I couldn't even work out if it was on the top or bottom
[01:37:55] <rue_house> till the top one shattered
[01:38:01] <rue_house> then I knew
[01:38:11] <^kat^> how did yu know?
[01:38:44] <rue_house> while trying to wiggle them, my finger fell into a large void where there should have been tooth
[01:39:13] <rue_house> seeing as I'd checked them all about an hour beofre, and I'd only eaten one thing, I wasn't impressed
[01:39:14] <^kat^> ah
[01:39:52] <rue_house> I wonder if I should work on making titanium teeth
[01:40:03] <rue_house> that stuff is hard, yet not brittle, right?
[01:40:35] <^kat^> the older i get, the older my teeth get, and the faster medical prices rise, i wonder if it wold be best to have them all pulled before i can't afford to do anything about them
[01:41:00] <^kat^> you can get stud-mounted teeth
[01:41:07] <^kat^> prolly cost a fortune
[01:41:37] <rue_house> why would I want my teeth mounted on a stud? feeding the cats is hard enough
[01:42:41] <^kat^> studs implated in your jaw
[01:42:46] <rue_house> I bet it would need to be walked too
[01:42:58] <rue_house> my mouth isn't that big
[01:43:00] * ^kat^ got lost
[01:43:51] <rue_house> can you imagine having it reshoed while its attached to your jaw?
[01:44:03] <^kat^> no
[01:44:42] <^kat^> none of the studs in my house walls have shoes
[01:45:52] * ^kat^ has noted the rubber treads they attached to the bottom of Petman's "feet" to give him traction work as well on her hind paws
[01:46:23] <rue_house> I been considering building some shoes
[01:49:41] <rue_house> oops, I forgot to go to sleep at some point
[01:49:58] <^kat^> why not buy?
[01:51:34] <rue_house> I want one set of shoes that just last forever
[01:51:40] * ^kat^ waits n ibuprofen to ease her tooth off some
[01:51:40] <rue_house> cant get that by buying some
[01:52:00] <^kat^> what flexable material will last forever?
[01:52:26] <rue_house> replacable
[01:52:31] <^kat^> how about modular shoes, you replace the part that wear out as needed, in 5 minutes?
[01:52:40] <rue_house> tire seems like it'd make great tread
[01:52:47] <rue_house> yea
[01:52:52] <^kat^> too heavy and stiff
[01:53:05] <rue_house> I wear shoes with steel souls anyhow
[01:53:20] <^kat^> kwl
[01:53:24] <^kat^> kewl
[01:53:29] <rue_house> wearing normal shoes for me it akin to wearing nothing
[01:53:46] <rue_house> I seem to be used to 15lb shoes..
[01:53:58] <^kat^> i break the steel shank inserts, once flared out a steel toe
[01:54:12] <rue_house> once the ones from work are worn out, I use them for non-work till they completely disintregrate
[01:54:31] <^kat^> nice about those 15 lb boots tho: you put your foot somewhere, and it tends to stay there
[01:54:53] <^kat^> i call mine "mud grips"
[01:54:55] <rue_house> yea, my luck, I end up running up and down 3 flights of stairs all day
[01:55:19] <rue_house> if the fridge is 5c, why is there ice in my lemonaid?
[01:55:35] <rue_house> maybe it needs more glycol
[01:55:36] <^kat^> because it fell outa the freezer?
[01:56:08] <rue_house> I'm tired, but it IS 11:30pm
[01:56:42] <^kat^> it's an associatin, but not casue and effect
[01:56:49] <^kat^> lk hoety;otyaegv jghsngdkl;fgn ;dfga ddg
[01:57:11] <rue_house> I cant correct THAT
[01:57:18] <rue_house> unless you fell into a blender
[01:57:19] <^kat^> so i just tonite discovered the tv show "The Expanse"
[01:57:24] <rue_house> ok
[01:57:38] <rue_house> I finished two rollers for the 12' mecha
[01:57:52] <rue_house> almost, as you know I overborred one
[01:58:09] <rue_house> I'll make a thermal-press insert
[01:58:11] <^kat^> i decided the car batery was in fact dead, and then mixed 5 bags of concrete and poured them onto the ground
[01:58:31] <rue_house> how many thou should I overlap it if I'm gonna heat the roller and freeze the insert?
[01:58:41] <^kat^> i looked athem, and covered them with paper
[01:58:55] <^kat^> 4 or 5
[01:59:03] <^kat^> what metals?
[01:59:14] <rue_house> roller is alum and the insert will be steel
[01:59:28] <rue_house> I'm told 2%, but... ???
[01:59:40] <^kat^> what were you going to put between the alum and the shaft ?
[01:59:41] <rue_house> I have the 20 ton press
[01:59:50] <rue_house> thats the steel
[02:00:00] <^kat^> no, before you overbored it
[02:00:02] <rue_house> it was going to be bothing
[02:00:08] <rue_house> well, grease
[02:00:16] <^kat^> bothing grease?
[02:00:27] <^kat^> grease on what?
[02:00:36] <rue_house> grease everywhere
[02:00:47] <rue_house> I have some axle grease
[02:00:48] <^kat^> but no shaft in the roller!?!
[02:00:56] <rue_house> I'z told its good for mid-high temp
[02:01:14] <^kat^> yeas, because if you get a fever....
[02:01:21] <rue_house> I'm thinking of letting the pin spin free between the static bushings and the roller
[02:01:36] <^kat^> the mecha-you will prolly run hotter in spots than the bio-you
[02:02:00] <rue_house> yea,
[02:02:03] <^kat^> so you were going topress in bushings where you overbored it?
[02:02:54] * ^kat^ wonders if you ran a couple welf beads on the ID and rebored it
[02:03:06] <rue_house> aluminum
[02:03:14] <^kat^> aluminum welf, of course
[02:03:34] <rue_house> the 3/4" pipe is about 4mm larger than the hole in the roller now
[02:03:42] <rue_house> its about .57mm too small for the pin
[02:03:45] <^kat^> there's some lot wemp gas "weld" rods on ebay, you can prolly get locally
[02:04:05] <^kat^> what's wemp?
[02:04:12] <rue_house> low temp
[02:04:19] <^kat^> oh, low temp
[02:04:23] <rue_house> took 4 passes to correct
[02:04:32] <^kat^> for me too
[02:04:37] <^kat^> something wrong
[02:04:48] <rue_house> dont have my gas welding setup giong
[02:04:55] <rue_house> your brain failing too?
[02:05:27] <rue_house> was the t with the right or left hand?
[02:05:41] <rue_house> I think your lobes are getting impatient with each other
[02:06:08] <^kat^> what if you used a rod too big to go into the bore, in the press, and mashed, i mean cold flowed the alum to a smaller bore?
[02:06:42] <rue_house> I can just make an insert with the 3/4" pipe and rebore it to the right size
[02:06:47] <^kat^> i hit the middle keys with both paws, depending on if there is room or not
[02:06:51] <^kat^> ok
[02:07:17] <rue_house> yea, I'v always done that, they hated me doing it at typing school
[02:07:39] <rue_house> whoever is closer/available
[02:07:48] <^kat^> i am concerned about 1) boring out more alum, weakening the roller 2) the steel-alum interface 3) now you are heating the steel insert by boring on it after it's int he alum
[02:08:07] <rue_house> there is a LOT of margin in the roller
[02:08:12] <^kat^> ok
[02:08:23] <rue_house> I think the neck of it is about 2"+
[02:08:45] <^kat^> can you bore the id of the steel and then chill it and insert it?
[02:09:09] <rue_house> rather insert then bore, then I know its centered
[02:09:21] <rue_house> I'd prolly turn down the steel,
[02:09:29] <rue_house> partly to make sure its consistant
[02:09:46] <^kat^> what are these rollers for?
[02:09:59] <rue_house> making the control gyro cage
[02:10:12] <rue_house> looong ways to go
[02:10:21] <rue_house> but I ahve an acceleration plan
[02:10:35] <rue_house> build the upper torso, arms, get them working
[02:10:37] <^kat^> oh, so essentially no rpm, and the insert will remain captive once assembled, even if it works loose
[02:10:50] <rue_house> :) yea
[02:11:00] <^kat^> no worries
[02:11:17] <rue_house> it might last longer with the insert, I kinda expect the rollers to flare out from the inside over time
[02:11:48] <rue_house> maybe I should have overborred the middle 1/2" of the rollers
[02:11:54] <rue_house> by a few thou
[02:12:34] <rue_house> bah, see if it all works, for all I know this is going to turn pipe into pretzels
[02:12:42] <rue_house> you would have it done in a month
[02:12:44] <^kat^> my brian sut off almost 2 hrs ago, i should get to bed before i think iam there and aren't
[02:13:51] <^kat^> i picked up parts to make a small tubing/etc roller , using 1.25 dia rollers
[02:14:45] <^kat^> going to be ahuge overhung load on the shafts
[02:15:34] <^kat^> but want it to roll 1/4 rouond up to 1.25 wide 1/8 thick *turned on edge*
[02:16:13] <rue_house> you'll do it
[02:16:20] <rue_house> I'll be envious
[02:16:52] <rue_house> I keep trying to buy tools to do things, you make jigs and get them done
[02:17:46] <^kat^> figured how to make a recirculating hot water bath with waterheater element and 2 lengths of emt , to set the curl in the 1/2 cpvc
[02:18:15] <^kat^> was going to just runt he hot water thru the plastic, but that woldn't het it evenly as fast
[02:18:21] <^kat^> arg
[02:18:24] <^kat^> i goto bed
[02:18:26] <^kat^> gnites
[21:41:41] <__m00n__> HAY RUE
[21:43:01] <__m00n__> Did you 'shang high' that engine stand from Chirs?
[22:50:36] <rue_house> NOPE, HAVEN'T MET BACK UP WITH KRIS
[22:50:40] <rue_house> hjmm capc
[22:50:42] <rue_house> hmm caps
[22:50:59] <rue_house> katsmeow, can moon commision you to make an engine stand?
[22:51:24] <rue_house> its for a 351, not a carrier ship,
[22:51:32] <rue_house> so size down the plan you just thought of
[22:51:36] <katsmeow> i dunno if he can or not, but shipping to you will cost a fortune
[22:52:05] <rue_house> __m00n__, you heard what she said, you have to ship her here, not it here
[22:53:01] * rue_house drums fingers and waits...
[22:53:32] * rue_house looks at watch...
[22:53:43] * rue_house taps on the sceeen...
[22:53:46] <rue_house> hello?
[22:54:52] <rue_house> I just worked out why I'v not had any email in a few days!
[22:54:58] <katsmeow> make a big U to mount the engine mounts to (it's real simple, and make it a foot wider each side), then add some steel running front to back (basically as long as the crankshaft is), run one steel up so you can bolt to where the tranny bell housing normally bolts
[22:55:00] * rue_house starts up the email client
[22:56:20] <rue_house> 47000uf
[22:56:27] <rue_house> 47mF
[22:56:33] <rue_house> 400V
[22:56:39] <rue_house> 600w...
[22:56:46] <katsmeow> finally
[22:56:48] <rue_house> 5 seconds
[22:57:12] <rue_house> yes, I think your correct, but not many gennys can afford to be kept heated
[22:57:22] <katsmeow> drain the caps from 400v to 160v to drive the 120vac buck convertor
[22:57:41] <rue_house> oh, one of the robotics kids will be at last weekend robotics...
[22:57:44] <rue_house> and it was true
[22:57:49] <__m00n__> >
[22:57:57] <katsmeow> my baby genny came up in 5sec, and so do the generacs
[22:58:05] <rue_house> oh and thats who left the thermos
[22:58:36] <katsmeow> altho i have not run the baby genny since my mom threatened me with dogs if i ran it
[22:59:05] <katsmeow> and the 208v@70amp genny is full of water, so that's a waste
[22:59:28] <katsmeow> afaik, the 240v@30amp genny engine is siezed too
[23:00:01] <rue_house> the one in the plastic or metal cabinet?
[23:00:44] <katsmeow> both generacs are in metal boxes, the baby and the 240@30 is in a wod and cement and carpet cubby in the barn
[23:01:03] <katsmeow> the big 3ph is out in the rain, hence being slap full up with water
[23:01:11] <katsmeow> it won't turn
[23:01:19] <rue_house> one of the brands is subject to controller failures
[23:01:36] <rue_house> the other one has poor quality engines that wear out quick
[23:01:40] <rue_house> like 3000 hours
[23:01:42] <rue_house> DONE
[23:02:06] <katsmeow> both of these over-rev, but i expect that's because they align them in S American running butane, and they run natural gas in the states
[23:02:14] <rue_house> so, if it helps ya feel better, they prolly would have been a fight and a half anyhow
[23:02:16] <rue_house> ?
[23:02:28] <rue_house> no, they over-rev cause the brushes are bad
[23:02:39] <katsmeow> they both put out 250v at 62hz
[23:02:41] <rue_house> they are trying to spin up to get a signal so they can sync
[23:02:51] <rue_house> oh, not like 74hx
[23:02:58] <rue_house> hmm
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> not while i had them running on propane
[23:03:18] <rue_house> I work with the guy who does generators at work
[23:03:39] <rue_house> all sorts of problems with small gennys
[23:04:07] <katsmeow> my 240@20 and my baby genny do not have brushes
[23:04:16] <katsmeow> i didn't know the generac does
[23:05:01] <rue_house> I could be wrong, I dont pay close attention
[23:05:09] <rue_house> do you know the hours count on them?
[23:05:15] <katsmeow> i'd prefer to crank them on propane, run on gasoline, and power them down on propane
[23:05:18] <katsmeow> no
[23:05:36] <katsmeow> atm, i cannot get them into the barn either
[23:05:42] <katsmeow> but their tops are on them
[23:21:05] <katsmeow> i found a few pieces of tubing roughly 2.25 ID, for only a few inches they ran $6 - $8 each
[23:21:26] <rue_house> ?
[23:21:31] <katsmeow> there was only one other piece of 2.25 ID int he whole lace
[23:22:21] <rue_house> if you had a motor to use to build it, how long do you think it would take you to make a disc sander?
[23:23:17] <katsmeow> i have nothing to hold the sand paper
[23:23:18] <rue_house> I'm gonna guess, less planning, about 4 hours for you, and thats painted
[23:23:39] <rue_house> you would get stuck on that?
[23:23:57] <rue_house> why do we always come in 1's
[23:24:22] <rue_house> if ever like 2 or more of us people ever got togethor, there would be nothing we couldn't build
[23:24:25] <katsmeow> i just have no way to attach the paper to the motor
[23:24:46] <katsmeow> need a lathe to make the paper-to-shaft adaptor
[23:24:49] <rue_house> I have a peice of plywood, bolted to a pulley
[23:25:01] <rue_house> and I turned it on the motor
[23:25:07] <rue_house> (I'll clean it up later
[23:25:21] <rue_house> and use itself to reface it
[23:25:23] <katsmeow> plywood? is this for a handheld or a table mounted sander?
[23:25:30] <rue_house> table
[23:25:35] <rue_house> disc sander
[23:25:37] <katsmeow> aaahhhhhhhh , ok
[23:25:47] <katsmeow> i was thinking exclusingely handheld
[23:25:48] <rue_house> 9"
[23:26:35] <katsmeow> exclusively
[23:26:51] <katsmeow> http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2016/03/its-official-poor-grammar-is-unsexy/
[23:28:31] <katsmeow> looking at a bbc docu on creativity, ding things "worg" to see if those ways work, instead of being routine and normal, can boost your creativeity 15%
[23:28:48] <katsmeow> can't type and watch tv at same time
[23:28:56] <katsmeow> "tv" = laptop
[23:29:33] <rue_house> I'm coding
[23:30:02] <katsmeow> moon was quitting
[23:33:09] <katsmeow> i think it's more about knowing more about the subject, understanding each reason something happens, and the ramifications