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[00:07:37] <katsmeow> gnites
[00:36:05] <any93282304> 74FCT573TPG IDT Lot of 3000 pcs
[16:04:46] <moon_> Anyone
[19:33:06] <Tom_itx> Noone
[20:03:17] <moon_> Woop
[20:14:15] <moon_> RUE!
[20:30:08] <rue_house> whats up
[20:31:17] <moon_> OOO
[20:31:35] <moon_> https://cfc7329ad537523a5de1-b21544d490ba797ec9de9d17e947de3d.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/jm-24211_5241.jpg
[20:31:42] <moon_> lets make these when I get back
[20:34:57] <rue_house> whats that for?
[20:36:05] <moon_> caster camber ajustment , they sit on top of the shock tower
[20:38:14] <rue_house> hows things so far?
[20:40:38] <moon_> a week and a bit till school but I got a quick tuor today
[20:40:52] <moon_> so good :P
[20:41:05] <rue_house> got everything you need?
[20:41:11] <moon_> got debian dual boot ing on my gramps computer
[20:41:16] <moon_> I think so.
[20:41:32] <rue_house> it'll never bother him to upgrade to windows 10
[20:41:47] <moon_> well hes running windows xp
[20:41:54] <moon_> so hes too far back for that
[20:41:59] <rue_house> dual boot dosn't work tho, people never boot linux
[20:42:17] <moon_> well its for me thats what im on right now
[20:42:22] <moon_> he doesnt even know
[20:42:50] <moon_> I set windows as the default in grub so he'll never notice
[20:42:58] <moon_> bgelive me XD
[21:17:49] <^kat^> my thumbs hurts
[21:18:02] <^kat^> looks like my limit for bandsawing 1/2x1/2 steel is ~25 cuts before taking abreak
[21:28:31] * ^kat^ waves
[21:28:38] <zhanx> Evening
[21:30:37] <^kat^> got apartment?
[21:32:10] <zhanx> Attempting work it out end quotes
[21:32:20] * ^kat^ hands rue a 6hp gaspowered pressure washer, with instructions to run hydraulic fluid thru it to operate the robot's cylinders
[21:33:22] * ^kat^ wishes zhanx good lucks and happy years
[21:36:11] <zhanx> Just want this cold to end
[21:36:48] <^kat^> a hazard of northern living
[21:37:03] <^kat^> need 500mg vit c every day
[21:37:13] <^kat^> maybe 2x a day
[21:37:22] <^kat^> and stay dry
[21:38:57] <zhanx> Nighquil time I rhink
[21:39:16] <zhanx> Had a question but forgot it
[21:39:39] <^kat^> o
[21:40:35] <Tom_itx> kat, how close did the tornado come?
[21:40:50] <^kat^> in miles? i dunno
[21:40:58] <Tom_itx> heard it was close
[21:41:32] <^kat^> it was southeast of Bham, ran on the gnd 3 miles, lifted up when it was str8 souh of me, then set down again for a moment southeast of me
[21:41:55] <^kat^> class 2
[21:42:09] <Tom_itx> class 2?
[21:42:11] <^kat^> the bham tv stations prolly got maps and details
[21:42:17] <Tom_itx> they are rated in effe? scale
[21:42:18] <^kat^> shedule 2?
[21:42:34] <^kat^> enhanced fugita scale
[21:42:39] <zhanx> Ok research done shutting done for the night. Be safe
[21:42:52] <^kat^> you too
[21:43:00] <zhanx> Cold evil I think
[21:43:08] <Tom_itx> The Fujita scale (F-Scale), or Fujita–Pearson scale, is a scale for rating tornado intensity, based primarily on the damage tornadoes inflict on human-built structures and vegetation.
[21:43:26] <Tom_itx> it's the F scale
[21:43:35] <Tom_itx> as in Fuuuu.... look at that
[21:44:15] <^kat^> what's tomator intensity?
[21:44:55] <^kat^> south Bnah/Fefferson co seems to be getting hit 2x a yr lately
[21:45:01] <^kat^> err
[21:45:10] <^kat^> south Bham/Jefferson co seems to be getting hit 2x a yr lately
[21:45:26] <^kat^> i been pushing steel thru bandsaw, my paws are sore
[21:45:45] <Tom_itx> good you didn't push your paws thru it too
[21:45:52] <Tom_itx> they'd really be sore
[21:46:14] <^kat^> be different tho
[21:46:26] <Tom_itx> i don't care to be that different
[21:47:00] * ^kat^ nods
[21:47:36] <^kat^> i figure it's different enough o have a reason to cut up 30ft of 1/2 square stock into 2.5 inch pieces
[21:49:52] <Tom_itx> what you makin?
[21:51:18] <^kat^> another secret
[21:51:40] <^kat^> but i got all the bearings and spacers on the rods today
[21:52:18] <Tom_itx> oh that reminds me...
[21:52:18] <Tom_itx> i gotta try to find a bearing
[21:52:28] <Tom_itx> ~.705 OD, ~.375 ID with a shoulder
[21:52:36] <Tom_itx> that's about 18mm od
[21:52:46] <Tom_itx> but i can fudge on that somewhat
[21:53:05] <Tom_itx> i'm using a shoulder bolt thru the ID so that needs to be close to .375
[21:53:38] <Tom_itx> important part is the shoulder and the .375 ID
[21:54:06] <^kat^> 3/8
[21:54:17] <Tom_itx> uh huh
[21:54:25] * ^kat^ hand Tom a 3/8 bolt
[21:54:38] <Tom_itx> got one already
[21:55:31] <Tom_itx> https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Shoulder-Bolts/Shoulder-Bolt-Dimensions.aspx
[21:55:36] <zhanx> Ok ordered 90 clamps :) from harbor freight
[21:55:50] <^kat^> i looked at my stash of lil bearings, no 3/8 ID
[21:56:05] <zhanx> Tom if it needs to be exact use rod and thread it
[21:56:06] <Tom_itx> zhanx you probably need that many to get 1 good one from them
[21:56:19] <^kat^> good dog, why? the plastc one are really crap
[21:56:20] <zhanx> Making a canoe
[21:56:43] <zhanx> They can be crap
[21:56:53] <^kat^> mine and Tom's were crap
[21:56:57] <zhanx> But they are cheap
[21:57:22] * ^kat^ hands zhanx a baggie of clothespins
[21:57:32] <zhanx> Too small
[21:57:40] <Tom_itx> http://www.vxb.com/SearchResults.asp?searching=Y&sort=13&search=flanged+bearings&show=15&page=1&f-0.375%20Inch=428
[21:58:11] <^kat^> yanno once you get resin n the fiberglass, it tends to stay where you stick it, without clamps
[21:58:37] <zhanx> Kat I know they are junk. But I need 64 to work plus extras just in case on the glue up
[21:58:59] <^kat^> k, long as you are prepared :-)
[21:59:13] <zhanx> A bit over I hope
[21:59:39] <^kat^> those are precious bearings, Tom
[21:59:46] <zhanx> Next week I get my wood
[21:59:54] <^kat^> don't they have any that they want to sell you?
[22:00:00] <zhanx> Vxb has alway been good to me
[22:00:29] <^kat^> i bought from them too, but i got pillow blocks cheaper than those
[22:00:33] <Tom_itx> none i can find yet
[22:00:47] <Tom_itx> need the flange
[22:01:13] <^kat^> you can't just put a fender washer (or make one) on the bolt each side?
[22:01:15] <Tom_itx> 'slip pressed' into a hole and need it to keep it there
[22:01:17] <zhanx> I fixed my welder today so I am in business again
[22:01:46] <zhanx> Now if I could weld better
[22:02:50] <^kat^> practice, critical examinations, good nuff tools
[22:03:11] <rue_house> hmm
[22:03:15] <zhanx> Oh tomorrow I get real Internets
[22:03:54] <^kat^> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=0.375+Inch++Search+for+%22flanged+bearings%22&mfe=search&clk_rvr_id=991156729048&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=0.375+++%22flanged+bearing%22&_sacat=0
[22:04:48] <^kat^> Heavy Duty Flanged Full Complement Wheel Ball Bearing 3/8"Bore ID 0.375 inch Charity item
[22:07:42] <^kat^> FR6 ZZ, Z FLANGED BEARING 3/8 x 7/8 x 9/32 ABEC3/C3/EMQ
[22:08:13] <^kat^> (1) 3/8"x 7/8" X 9/32" Inch FR6ZZ Shielded Flanged Ball Flange Bearing
[22:08:35] <^kat^> SEALED BEARING, FLANGED, PRECISION, 1-3/16" OD x 3/8" ID, FOR 1-1/2" WIDE WHEELS
[22:08:54] <Tom_itx> best one so far
[22:10:17] <^kat^> 2 Universal Flanged Ball Bearing 3/8 x 1-1/8 Fits Many Lawn Mower & Other Wheels
[22:10:32] <Tom_itx> the first one was 7/8
[22:10:36] <Tom_itx> better
[22:10:53] <^kat^> (Qty 2) FR6-ZZ, Z Flanged Bearing 3/8 x 7/8 x 9/32 ABEC3/C3/EMQ
[22:11:10] <Tom_itx> lot of 10
[22:11:41] <rue_house> I think today was worthless
[22:11:54] <^kat^> you need 10?
[22:11:58] <Tom_itx> i could almost guarantee that rue_house
[22:12:01] <Tom_itx> i need 8
[22:12:05] <rue_house> I'm quite sure it could have not happened and there wouldn't have been a difference
[22:12:22] <rue_house> tom, their cheap, you will need 10 to get 8
[22:12:23] <^kat^> 8?? i been thinking 2 was 1 too many
[22:12:41] <^kat^> what rue said
[22:12:51] <^kat^> they come 10 to the tube in thos sizes
[22:13:15] <rue_house> kat, did you find pipe for year bearings?
[22:13:25] <rue_house> am I gonna make you aluminum pillow blocks?
[22:13:34] <rue_house> never made pillow blocks before...
[22:13:46] <Tom_itx> i can draw them :D
[22:13:47] <^kat^> no pillow blocks, rue
[22:14:25] <^kat^> gave up on finding pipe/tubing for the R20 bearings
[22:14:37] <rue_house> ok
[22:14:51] <rue_house> I'd like to do whatever I said yesterday, but I forgot
[22:14:54] <rue_house> what I said
[22:14:57] <^kat^> (10) 3/8"x 7/8" X 9/32" Inch FR6ZZ Shielded Flanged Ball Flange Bearing
[22:15:11] <rue_house> shielded?
[22:15:24] <^kat^> LOT OF 10 FLANGED BEARING 1-1/8" OD, 3/8" ID, GO KARTS, BUFFERS, DOLLIES, CARTS
[22:15:38] <rue_house> oh, with the ring cut into them?
[22:15:49] <^kat^> 9892 BEARING BALL FLANGED 3/8X1-1/8 lot of 10
[22:15:49] <Tom_itx> the 10 for 25 looks ok to me
[22:15:58] <rue_house> oh nevermind, my brain turned on for an instant
[22:16:07] <^kat^> FR6 ZZ FR6 Z FR6 3/8" X 7/8" FLANGED BEARING 10 PCS SHIPS FROM THE U.S.A.
[22:16:14] <rue_house> I could make flanges
[22:16:18] <rue_house> blocks..
[22:16:22] <^kat^> yo never said what ID
[22:16:24] <^kat^> err
[22:16:27] <^kat^> yo never said what oD
[22:16:32] <rue_house> what you would what?
[22:16:34] <Tom_itx> i did
[22:16:39] <^kat^> what?
[22:16:42] <rue_house> you'd what?
[22:16:45] <Tom_itx> but i can work with that
[22:16:49] <^kat^> which?
[22:16:50] <Tom_itx> ~.705
[22:16:56] <Tom_itx> is what it is now
[22:17:05] <^kat^> what should it be?
[22:17:07] <Tom_itx> but it's knurled
[22:17:17] <Tom_itx> close to that but bigger would be ok
[22:17:22] <rue_house> I want to be making something, but it needs to be easy cause I'm out of energy to do things like move
[22:17:23] <Tom_itx> some common fraction size
[22:17:28] <Tom_itx> i can get a reamer for
[22:17:57] <Tom_itx> rue_house, make an 'up your mind'
[22:18:06] <^kat^> i ran ot of good choices
[22:18:22] <Tom_itx> kat i still think the first one was the best one
[22:18:33] <Tom_itx> didn't say what thickness they were though
[22:18:51] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-10-Flanged-Bearing-FR6-ZZ-Z-2Z-3-8-x-7-8-inch-R6-with-a-flange-0-375-Bore-/110294936533?hash=item19ae172bd5:m:mgb-mHl2SCDz3z88xIUFSFA
[22:19:07] <Tom_itx> it's VXB
[22:19:14] <^kat^> R6 is a standard bearing
[22:19:28] <^kat^> R6-with-a-flange
[22:19:30] <Tom_itx> not with a flange
[22:19:35] <rue_house> I need to make myself hands
[22:19:51] <rue_house> and a brain
[22:20:02] <^kat^> jigs help a lot, rue
[22:20:06] <rue_house> eyes would finish a list of critical things
[22:20:11] <Tom_itx> you sound like the scarecrow in the wizzard of oz now rue_house
[22:20:12] <rue_house> yes, I need jigs
[22:20:46] <rue_house> do I need Dyneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeema for hands?
[22:20:51] <rue_house> I dont need anything
[22:20:58] <rue_house> if I'm determined I can make them from anything
[22:21:05] <rue_house> make and then improve
[22:21:13] <rue_house> must make!
[22:21:19] <rue_house> must make!!!!
[22:21:22] <rue_house> must.... sleep
[22:21:36] <^kat^> sleep makes not much
[22:21:52] <Tom_itx> sleep makes eye buggers
[22:22:05] <rue_house> not much makes with no sleep
[22:22:24] <rue_house> how do I do the damn actuators
[22:22:33] <^kat^> Don Norman: "3 ways good design makes you happy"
[22:24:29] <^kat^> ACK!! my neck, upper back all just cracked
[22:24:35] <^kat^> what a freaking poor design!
[22:28:32] <rue_house> its the compliant linkage on those last 2 digits
[22:28:40] <rue_house> just cant work it out
[22:28:49] <rue_house> even with the schematics
[22:28:53] <Tom_itx> chop em off
[22:29:02] <Tom_itx> be like ET
[22:29:26] <rue_house> wont help, if I cant work it out from the schematics, examining the real thing wont help
[22:30:31] <^kat^> told ya to make them all identical, cables from a servo to each and every segment
[22:30:59] <rue_house> I'v drawn out out, and it dosn't do compliance
[22:35:20] <^kat^> http://Designerthinking.com/images/DSCF3094m.jpg
[22:36:28] <rue_house> linkage is easy, actuating it is where my problems start up
[22:36:37] <rue_house> (nice btw)
[22:36:58] <^kat^> http://Designerthinking.com/images/DSCF3100m.jpg
[22:37:41] <^kat^> hacksaw and file and drill press and reamer
[22:38:03] <rue_house> done wonderfully
[22:38:49] <^kat^> needs creative jigging to drill tunnels for the tendons
[22:39:29] <^kat^> and i cannot get the drill press to set down and not skate
[22:41:11] <^kat^> all ball bearings too
[22:42:11] <rue_house> this is why my robot is 12' tall
[22:42:20] <rue_house> most of the parts are a managable size
[22:43:05] <^kat^> yo still pretty much need the biggest bearings you can fit into the skeleton
[22:43:42] <^kat^> and when you get to a one inch bone that can have only a 7/8 OD inch bearing, it might fail
[22:45:08] <rue_house> fiction and grease
[22:45:32] <rue_house> no little balls everywhere
[22:47:37] <^kat^> rice is getting dizzy in the nukebox
[22:47:53] <^kat^> friction is going to be trouble for ye
[22:48:15] <^kat^> you may need to make all your actuators and tendons 2x as strong
[22:48:38] <rue_house> grease nipples
[22:48:48] <rue_house> I want less balls and more nipples
[22:48:59] <rue_house> erm... you know what I mean
[22:49:00] <^kat^> grease will pack to one side and watch the joint grind away
[22:49:21] <^kat^> i am sure there's docs who can help you achieve that
[22:54:38] * rue_house keeps playing with his finger to try to figure out how it works
[22:55:08] <^kat^> rue, can you put two metal sleeves on the 3D printer table, and it build a finger bone around-between them?
[22:56:10] <rue_house> you can drop in anything that, when dropped, is at a height lower than the current top level of the print
[22:56:29] <rue_house> o
[22:56:30] <rue_house> |
[22:56:32] <rue_house> V
[22:56:33] <rue_house> U
[22:56:42] <^kat^> what?
[22:56:48] <rue_house> see the round rod?
[22:56:52] <^kat^> yeas
[22:57:08] <rue_house> I'v drawn an arrow into the U shaped channel thats 3d printed
[22:57:22] <rue_house> after that, the 3d printer can print a flat top on it, locking it into the print
[22:57:28] <^kat^> so you cannot print to the metal sleeve?
[22:57:45] <rue_house> well then no
[22:58:03] <^kat^> o
[22:58:18] <rue_house> the printer software has no concept of obsticles
[23:00:42] <rue_house> I'm thinking a lot about my idea of a raid array distributed across the network that stores the OS filesystems for all the machines
[23:00:55] <rue_house> and using a simple usb boot stick to start them
[23:01:18] <rue_house> if I have copies of all the boot sticks, rebuilding machines is almost nonexistant problem
[23:01:31] <rue_house> FINGERS
[23:01:54] <^kat^> cept for time on the lan
[23:02:03] * rue_house takes his pants off, time to get ready for bed...where are the pajamas anyhow
[23:02:31] <rue_house> one of my machiens ran for about 2 weeks (guessing) with a hard drive that was completely dead
[23:04:10] <rue_house> they aren't heavy on traffic
[23:12:30] <^kat^> http://i.imgur.com/5OgnHVV.jpg <<== melancholy
[23:13:51] <rue_house> so it is....
[23:39:56] <^kat^> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3168
[23:40:28] <^kat^> http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3167
[23:53:09] <rue_house> sympathetic and parasympathetic sound like a ying/yang relationship?
[23:54:58] <^kat^> it's ok, i sorta understand
[23:55:26] <rue_house> ?
[23:55:40] <rue_house> I started on fingers and ended up at the nervous system
