#garfield | Logs for 2016-02-25

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[00:00:11] <rue_house> whats made of solid steel thats big enough to use as round stock to make one?
[00:00:20] <katsmeow-afk> i don't wanna make shipping companies any richer
[00:00:29] <rue_house> will HSS cut springsteel ok?
[00:00:39] <katsmeow-afk> i dunno
[00:00:57] <rue_house> have you ever drilled a leaf spring?
[00:01:52] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[00:01:53] * rue_house peers over kats shoulder to see who else she's talking to
[00:02:08] <rue_house> good, cause otherwise I'd ask who you are and what you did tiwth kat
[00:02:16] <rue_house> did it kill the drillbit?
[00:02:27] <katsmeow-afk> nope, drilled a lot of holes
[00:02:32] <katsmeow-afk> got pics
[00:02:43] <rue_house> I belive you
[00:02:54] <rue_house> big leaf springs are 1/2" stell aren't htey?
[00:03:08] <katsmeow-afk> depends on how you define big
[00:03:31] <rue_house> I know some radicals who would be happy to get me springs off logging trucks
[00:03:33] <katsmeow-afk> car and normal truck, and even 18wheeler springs are 3/16 to 3/8
[00:04:36] <rue_house> what do you think of the idea of 1/8" washers stacked togethor?
[00:04:49] <rue_house> the square ones
[00:05:05] <katsmeow-afk> with a 2.25 hole in them??
[00:05:36] <rue_house> thats easy for me
[00:05:40] <rue_house> 4 jaw chuck
[00:06:03] <rue_house> easy, but BORRING
[00:06:04] <rue_house> :)
[00:06:17] <katsmeow-afk> heh
[00:06:48] <katsmeow-afk> i spose they'd press over the bearins, then i run a bead to hold them in place
[00:07:40] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/early%20roller%20assy.jpg
[00:08:45] <rue_house> oo, like that design
[00:09:16] <rue_house> oh man the seams on those tanks are so well done
[00:12:41] <katsmeow-afk> i know i am tired when i enter urls in the search bar and vice versa
[00:14:10] <rue_house> goofy internet noobs, url bar should only take urls, its not for searching, why dont they know this?
[00:14:45] * katsmeow-afk faceplants
[00:15:20] <rue_house> hmm
[00:15:33] * rue_house pushes kats 'hybernate' button
[00:16:00] * rue_house stares at the label more, 'hyperventilate'?
[00:16:09] <rue_house> hmm...
[00:16:34] <rue_house> all rubbed out, cant tell...
[00:16:51] * katsmeow-afk should add punctuation to those to make them more eaily discernable
[00:22:01] <rue_house> well I'm going to take my clothes off and go to bed, how about you?
[00:22:07] <katsmeow-afk> pics
[00:22:13] <rue_house> !?
[00:22:21] <rue_house> ...
[00:22:38] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_1106.jpg <<== butt welding two .050 thich steel plate
[00:22:56] * rue_house cautiosly clicks the link...
[00:23:19] <rue_house> what happened to the stick?
[00:23:31] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_1707m.jpg <<== these got left behind in fla because i didn't have any back left to put them back on the trailer
[00:23:45] <katsmeow-afk> what do you mean?
[00:24:02] <rue_house> it looks like a pile of dimes, but thick ones.
[00:24:15] <rue_house> ooo wow, that cool
[00:24:34] <katsmeow-afk> i guess i am a crappy welder, sorry
[00:24:42] <rue_house> hell no
[00:24:51] <rue_house> the wire looks smoother
[00:24:56] <rue_house> is all I meant
[00:25:10] <rue_house> aside from the silly spatter that comes with wire welding
[00:25:22] <rue_house> oh that is such an inspiring image
[00:25:36] <katsmeow-afk> the wires also didn't burn deep enough, it splattered more requiring cleanup, and i see one place the metal is sittn on top of the plate
[00:25:37] <rue_house> you sure are good at shaping steel
[00:26:02] <rue_house> was it hard to find tanks that matched?
[00:26:15] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[00:26:22] <katsmeow-afk> and in useable condition
[00:26:38] <rue_house> most have holes around the electode, er, I mean element
[00:26:46] <katsmeow-afk> pretty much had to match pairs, and split the pairs
[00:27:08] <katsmeow-afk> all mine held air
[00:27:11] <rue_house> you still ahve the big hull dont ya?
[00:27:36] <rue_house> its much easier to see the size of it in that image
[00:27:59] <katsmeow-afk> i have the 10ft section of round
[00:28:23] <katsmeow-afk> and all the pics i took, including the aterio images webpage of the big bow
[00:28:25] <rue_house> that was the primary hull and the small oens are the outriggers, right?
[00:28:39] <katsmeow-afk> yeas, in one version
[00:28:59] <rue_house> I love the eye on that bullnose
[00:29:04] <rue_house> pipe?
[00:29:07] <katsmeow-afk> i put the lil hulls together as one pontoon boat first, and put it int the water and walked around on it
[00:29:22] <katsmeow-afk> structural tubing
[00:29:57] <rue_house> I want to work on more big projects
[00:30:00] <katsmeow-afk> i am proud of the way those bows turned out, those are water heaters too
[00:30:06] <rue_house> yea I know
[00:30:22] <rue_house> did it take long for you to work out how the cuts went?
[00:31:04] <rue_house> I have problems with 2.5D+
[00:31:16] <katsmeow-afk> all total, a few days to work out the procedure in my head to get that shape from an intact tank
[00:31:45] <rue_house> did you mock with paper/cardboard?
[00:32:05] <katsmeow-afk> no
[00:32:10] <rue_house> wow
[00:32:54] <rue_house> did you work out how to plate the big hull?
[00:32:57] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_0120.jpg <<== luv that shape, made no waves in the water, becha cannot find the welds joining tank to tank
[00:33:20] <rue_house> yea, its a great shape for spreading the water
[00:33:23] <katsmeow-afk> yeas, i bent 1/4 thich steel plates 5x8ft
[00:33:43] <rue_house> I dont remmeber you skinning it
[00:34:10] <rue_house> is the comealong doing a straighness correction?
[00:34:20] <katsmeow-afk> didn't skin the big bow, skinned the 10ft secton to
[00:35:32] <rue_house> did you ever work as a welder?
[00:35:50] <rue_house> or are you naturally that good :)
[00:35:56] <katsmeow-afk> no, anyone hore a woman, never hapen
[00:36:00] <katsmeow-afk> hie
[00:36:01] <katsmeow-afk> not hore
[00:36:05] <katsmeow-afk> lots of hores
[00:36:09] <katsmeow-afk> hire
[00:36:10] <katsmeow-afk> damnit
[00:36:23] <rue_house> dude, I have auto correction on, geez/
[00:36:30] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_0063.jpg <<== skinned
[00:36:46] <rue_house> wuf
[00:36:47] <katsmeow-afk> pulling the plate tight to ribs before welding
[00:37:02] <rue_house> you have a hydraulic thing
[00:37:13] <rue_house> thats awesome
[00:37:25] <rue_house> I wish you could make the frame for the 12' mecha for me
[00:37:51] <katsmeow-afk> i'd insist it walk into Canadia duty-free
[00:38:02] <rue_house> :)
[00:38:57] <rue_house> what the dia of that?!
[00:38:59] <rue_house> 5'?
[00:39:00] <katsmeow-afk> http://designerthinking.com/images/IMG_0053.jpg <<== my fit up tolerances before welding
[00:39:04] <katsmeow-afk> 4ft
[00:39:17] <rue_house> geez wow
[00:39:38] <rue_house> if there was any idusrty left alive up here, you wouldn't have a problem getting hired
[00:40:13] <katsmeow-afk> make the industry: Atlas need kin, i think
[00:40:40] <rue_house> this is canada, for some reason it not worth it to make anything
[00:40:59] <katsmeow-afk> that's the way it's getting to be here too, afaik
[00:41:03] <rue_house> we have 1 factory here, they take palletts of grain and mix them into little bags
[00:41:41] <rue_house> http://holycrap.com/
[00:41:59] <rue_house> that is the whole factory behind her
[00:42:06] <rue_house> I do the fire inspections :)
[00:42:41] <katsmeow-afk> heh
[00:42:49] <katsmeow-afk> amazing
[00:42:55] <katsmeow-afk> they wouldn't allow the name here
[00:43:02] <rue_house> :)
[00:43:19] <rue_house> gnight kat
[00:43:39] <katsmeow-afk> $10 for one serving of breakfast is too much for me tho
[00:43:53] <rue_house> if you could, I'd bring you over for a vaccation, we could build the mecha, you could teach me your leet
[00:44:02] <rue_house> yea, I know
[00:44:06] <katsmeow-afk> i wouldn't wanna leave i think
[00:44:41] <rue_house> I know, it'd be a disaster
[00:44:42] * katsmeow-afk loks for an url for you to anser
[00:45:44] <rue_house> maybe one day I'll knock on your gate and ask you not to shoot me
[00:46:15] <katsmeow-afk> awe, you can ask me that now if you want
[00:46:18] <rue_house> easy to spot, alien driving a small, red, pickup truck.
[00:46:24] <rue_house> hahaha
[00:47:18] <katsmeow-afk> damndamndamndamn
[00:47:59] <katsmeow-afk> they don't have it listed separately any more
[00:49:32] <katsmeow-afk> they had a lil 3" stroke 1/2 inch piston hydraulic cylinder
[00:50:40] <katsmeow-afk> well, crud, i don't see it in the prtapower kits either
[00:52:03] <katsmeow-afk> FOUND IT
[00:52:24] <katsmeow-afk> http://www.harborfreight.com/7-pc-hydraulic-auto-bodyframe-repair-kit-60726.html
[00:52:54] <katsmeow-afk> an assortment of hydraulic cylinders
[00:53:12] <katsmeow-afk> i was thinking of the lil one in the far corner
[00:53:29] <katsmeow-afk> they can be ordered as replacement parts
[00:54:38] <katsmeow-afk> ............. ok
[00:55:21] <rue_bed> katsmeow-afk, ever done anything just as pointless art?
[00:55:25] <rue_bed> (steel wise)
[00:56:05] <katsmeow-afk> umm, considered it
[00:56:35] <rue_bed> that one I did was fun
[00:56:36] <katsmeow-afk> poured concrete for a shop , got tools, cannot do it, makes god bark
[00:56:48] <rue_bed> nice to not have anything be critical
[00:57:27] <katsmeow-afk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2-TON-MINI-HYDRAULIC-RAM-small-cylinder-rams-porta-power-jack-jacking-lift-/322001531245 <<== ripoff pricing
[00:59:05] <katsmeow-afk> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-TON-HYDRAULIC-MINI-RAM-with-SADDLE-for-AUTO-BODY-LIFTING-PORTA-POWER-JACK-NEW-/261566827199
[00:59:22] <katsmeow-afk> there's an industry rue, make and sell those
[01:00:26] <katsmeow-afk> make pvc ones for using water instead of oil
[01:01:16] <katsmeow-afk> 2" pipe at 80psi from a $20 chinese water pump = 250 lbs of push
[01:02:06] <katsmeow-afk> ~10:1.5 for a lower arm = 25lbs of lift at the hand
[01:02:15] <katsmeow-afk> that's respectyable
[01:03:50] <katsmeow-afk> make it 14:3 in large sizes
[01:05:12] <katsmeow-afk> see, something like that i wold do for fun and perfecting it's aesthetics and function, and no one willt alk to me, it;s like programng Tiggr, no one wants it
[16:07:44] <any84528324> on youtube, search for : Poppy robot
[16:07:54] <any84528324> on youtube, search for : InMoov
[16:08:01] <any84528324> that is all
[18:20:25] * any76584340 tosses rue a url : http://open-mind.net/collection.pdf
[18:20:53] <any76584340> misc pdfs compiled into one for your selection and reading
[18:21:16] * any76584340 looks at tobbor's and Tiggr's empty wall slots
[18:21:20] <any76584340> that is all
[20:03:04] <Moon_> HAY RUE
[20:03:09] <Moon_> Home yet?
[20:12:42] <rue_shop3> "There! its a helmet for a person without a neck!, cause, yaknow, everyone has a disability"
[20:13:50] <Moon_> I have a confession to make , I slept with bill gates last night
[20:14:56] <Moon_> but this morning my linux kernel is kinda itchy
[20:15:33] <Moon_> I think its infected
[20:15:49] <Moon_> or maybe because he spiled WINE on it
[20:18:00] <rue_shop3> mhm
[20:20:39] <Moon_> :P
[20:20:43] <Moon_> am i funny yet
[20:47:00] <Moon_> guese not
[20:48:41] <rue_shop3> Moon_, good one
[20:49:43] <Moon_> cool
[20:51:07] <Moon_> got my build enviroment for game boy advance going
[21:33:50] <rue_house> k
[21:33:55] <rue_house> thats arm?
[21:33:58] <Moon_> yeah
[21:34:08] <Moon_> quick resaponce hay
[21:42:53] <rue_house> ?
[21:54:16] <katsmeow> <cough>
[21:55:36] * rue_house gives kat a coughdrop
[21:56:27] <katsmeow> you see the youtube robots?
[21:56:55] <rue_house> the ones by boston?
[21:58:00] <rue_house> how can I make lots of cheap 0-40psi pressure sensors
[21:58:05] <rue_house> might I add CHEAP
[21:58:16] <katsmeow> no, the urls i posted in here today
[21:58:32] <rue_house> I only see the pdf
[21:58:37] <katsmeow> analog sensors?
[21:58:39] <rue_house> which I'm waiting for to open
[21:58:40] <rue_house> yea
[21:58:42] <rue_house> 0-20psi
[21:58:44] <rue_house> er 40
[21:59:06] <katsmeow> bean or coffee cans
[21:59:25] <katsmeow> resolder them closed up again
[21:59:47] <rue_house> funny, that thought corssed my mind
[21:59:52] <katsmeow> attach a lever to gain gain, spring to change the scale and center
[21:59:57] <zhanx> Evening
[22:00:03] <rue_house> I have a 20 ton press and a lathe, think I can make small flat bellows?
[22:00:30] <katsmeow> or, if it need not be hugely accurate, use a 2"pvc pipe and make a piston and vaseline it
[22:00:36] <katsmeow> hi zhanx
[22:01:06] <rue_house> I need really good 0-40 resolution
[22:01:13] <zhanx> My truck is doa
[22:01:14] <rue_house> well, atleast to .5psi
[22:01:27] <rue_house> they had to tow it from the sales lot?
[22:01:39] <Tom_itx> local shooter on the rampage dead
[22:01:46] <Tom_itx> took 3 with him
[22:02:08] <rue_house> didn't get anyone you know I hope
[22:02:13] <zhanx> Rue my exploder
[22:02:58] <rue_house> kat, that pdf didn't have as much digital context as I was hoping for
[22:03:02] <katsmeow> dead from what?
[22:03:14] <Tom_itx> gunfire
[22:03:22] <Tom_itx> made national news
[22:03:29] <katsmeow> they shot zhanx's truck?!
[22:03:49] <zhanx> No, my truck is dead due to water :(
[22:03:53] <rue_house> tom you live in the usa, this stuff is common plate
[22:03:57] <katsmeow> hmm, <cough> i shot mine too, but that was extraordinary circumstances
[22:04:04] <rue_house> zhanx, did it take a swim?
[22:04:24] <katsmeow> but you drove it home after the dip in the ditch, i thought
[22:04:33] <zhanx> Parking lot did flood hope insurance covers it
[22:04:50] <rue_house> god took your vehicle, admit it
[22:04:55] <katsmeow> water in gearbox or engine?
[22:04:59] <zhanx> But no my truck is higher than flood level
[22:05:08] <zhanx> Maybe gearbox
[22:05:17] <katsmeow> wtf killed the truck, zhanx?
[22:05:29] <zhanx> Thinking mass air flow sensor
[22:05:42] <katsmeow> that's up on top of the engine!?
[22:05:53] <zhanx> Or a vacuum leak under water 17
[22:06:18] <katsmeow> vac line down ,, no, you have a manual tranny
[22:06:19] <rue_house> kat, cant argue, it obviously died cause of the flood and needs to be covered by insurance
[22:06:40] <katsmeow> rue, was curious, wasn't trying to prove it was still alive
[22:06:54] <rue_house> :)
[22:07:05] <zhanx> Vac lines on newer vehicles run to the engine also
[22:07:17] <katsmeow> yeas, but not under the engine
[22:07:37] <rue_house> unless its covered by insurance
[22:07:52] <zhanx> Umm yea lax in maintaining my crap
[22:07:59] <katsmeow> are you trying to not tell us it sucked water and had a cylinder full whent he piston came up and busted parts?
[22:08:45] <zhanx> No it "runs" @ idle but zero power
[22:09:12] <zhanx> Aka I can barely move it but it will sit and idle fine
[22:09:17] <katsmeow> muffler or catconv full of water?
[22:09:32] <zhanx> Not sure yet
[22:09:44] <katsmeow> back pressure always means no power
[22:10:02] <katsmeow> carb or injectors?
[22:10:04] <zhanx> Or electronics got wet
[22:10:22] <zhanx> Injection
[22:10:38] <zhanx> Hence maf
[22:10:41] <katsmeow> ok, that lets out a floatbowl pump full or water
[22:11:11] <katsmeow> but you cannot get water up to the maf
[22:11:21] <zhanx> But not a bad gas tank (which I just changed )
[22:11:33] <katsmeow> your driver seat will be soggy if the maf suckedw ater
[22:11:43] <rue_house> what if water got in the tank
[22:12:09] <katsmeow> you did? umm, got a fuel filter back there? if it got water the fibers swella nd close down and restrict fuel
[22:12:15] <zhanx> Tomorrow I work 5 hours will figure it out
[22:12:21] <rue_house> I have to empty the last of the icecream out of the bucket so I can use it to make a concrete base for the vibration sorter
[22:12:37] <zhanx> Duel (dual) filter on it
[22:12:48] <rue_house> parallel?
[22:13:15] <katsmeow> same, if the filter sucked water, it's likely not letting the engine get fuel
[22:13:20] <zhanx> In line
[22:15:24] <zhanx> Leaning towards thermite, it runs fine in reverse
[22:15:45] <katsmeow> still, those lines are usually no lower than the frame rails, and if they sucked water, then they've been sucking air, unless you splashed the truck in the water and knocked lines loose
[22:16:14] <katsmeow> gobs of power in reverse, no power in first? manual, right?
[22:16:26] <zhanx> Yep
[22:16:37] <zhanx> Hence why I think it's electronic
[22:17:18] <katsmeow> if the truck was really deep in water, and the exhaust is full, going in reverse sloshes the water and may openthe pipe flow some
[22:17:32] <zhanx> That is true
[22:17:44] <katsmeow> manuals have no logical reason to have electrical to the gearbox to operate the engine
[22:18:03] <katsmeow> 1st forward is the same as rev tot he engine
[22:18:04] <zhanx> But my exhaust is higher than my fuel lines
[22:18:28] <zhanx> But maf sensor only reads in forward gears
[22:18:48] <katsmeow> that makes no sense, how do you know that?
[22:18:53] <zhanx> Lazy programming
[22:19:25] <katsmeow> lotta trucks are made to pull in reverse too, they gotta be reading maf
[22:19:36] <zhanx> Kat I have been a mechanic how long now?
[22:19:52] <zhanx> Ford is lazy
[22:19:57] <katsmeow> but you are half my age, and i picked up wrenches in the 60's
[22:20:15] <zhanx> True
[22:21:38] <zhanx> I got a vacuum checker at work so tomorrow I will figure it out I hope
[22:22:34] <katsmeow> only other i an think of is the ignition got wet, but that woldn't happen sitting still unless the fan was under water
[22:22:48] <rue_house> I still need a really cheap 0-40psi pressure sensor with a .5psi resolution of better
[22:23:28] <katsmeow> rue, that lets out a piston approach
[22:23:35] <katsmeow> too much stiction
[22:23:47] <rue_house> I'm game for bellows
[22:24:26] <katsmeow> vertical clear pipe and a ball bearing in it, play find the bearing, but it will leak air constantly
[22:24:38] <rue_house> I might be able to make bellows
[22:24:39] <katsmeow> bellow eventually crak and leak air too
[22:24:57] <katsmeow> heh: air muscles
[22:25:09] <rue_house> omnipositional
[22:25:21] <katsmeow> air muscles ARE omnipositional;
[22:26:00] <rue_house> the current tabled option is to use an air muscle to pull against a spring and measure the position, probably around a pot
[22:26:43] <katsmeow> oooooh, fancy meeting for problem solving!
[22:27:08] <katsmeow> lotta side force on the pot shaft, i'd use a lever
[22:27:44] <rue_house> leave'her?
[22:27:46] <katsmeow> or a nail in an inductor in an osc or other inductance measuing circ
[22:28:42] <katsmeow> i'd say optical, but you'd have a difficult time gettng the 7 bits of resolution
[22:29:08] <rue_house> I wonder if I can get away with a relative encoder
[22:29:28] <katsmeow> mouse pointer wheel wold have less resistance to being turned
[22:30:10] <rue_house> lower resolution
[22:31:17] <katsmeow> i bet it has more resolution: if the muscle pulls one inch, how many complete turns arond the mouse wheel shaft can you apply?
[22:32:43] <katsmeow> a 1/8 shaft is 0.4" around, so 1.2 " of pull is 3 complete wheel turns
[22:33:18] <rue_house> relative or absolute tho
[22:33:29] <katsmeow> absolutely
[22:34:06] <katsmeow> you got 20 mice, or can duplicate the encoder wheels?
[22:34:24] <rue_house> I have something almost as good
[22:35:03] <katsmeow> 2^6 isn't enough to make 1/2 psi rez on 40psi, but 2^7 is 128 ticks , surely the mouse wheel has 128 ticks if you turn it 3x
[22:55:33] <rue_house> I have sequens that are perfect encoders
[22:55:44] <rue_house> I cant find an image of anything like them on the internet
[22:59:03] <katsmeow> sequens?
[23:00:31] <rue_house> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2400pcs-Mix-color-flower-Sequins-9mm-/301424567145?hash=item462e4de369:g:D5MAAMXQC-tTDFni
[23:00:36] <rue_house> like those but better
[23:00:43] <rue_house> deeper cuts and black
[23:01:10] * katsmeow goes to http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2400pcs-Mix-color-flower-Sequins-9mm-/301424567145 instead
[23:01:49] <katsmeow> awefully coarse resolution
[23:02:01] <katsmeow> what about printer gears?
[23:04:18] <rue_house> I'm still thinking
[23:04:25] <rue_house> and trying to work out what to have for supper
[23:05:31] <katsmeow> put a can top on the end of a stick, chuck stick in lathe, put dremel on toolpost, make disc round, then inc the disk 360 and cut a notch in it every .125 inches on center
[23:07:05] <katsmeow> wiht one wrap of cord around a 1/8 shaft, it will be very sensitive to the air muscle moving
[23:07:44] <katsmeow> wold give you the entire 0-40 in only 1/2 inch of movement
[23:08:22] <katsmeow> (scale that by chose of spring and muscle size)
[23:22:49] <rue_house> I ahve lots of linear encoder strip from inkjet printers
[23:22:53] <rue_house> not enough for the whole mecha
[23:25:01] <katsmeow> yo can make optical ones, use ordinary camera film
[23:44:23] <rue_house> I ditn think that camera film can block out the IR
[23:45:26] <katsmeow> so use encoded red
[23:46:06] <katsmeow> <photodiode#1> "i see 4khz red light!"
[23:46:17] <katsmeow> <photodiode#2> "i don't!"
[23:47:47] <rue_house> hmm
[23:48:13] <rue_house> IR passes thru paper just fine
[23:48:22] <rue_house> what if I just laser print encoders?
[23:48:31] <katsmeow> paper tears
[23:48:35] <katsmeow> rips
[23:48:45] <katsmeow> stretches, shrinks
[23:48:57] <katsmeow> warps, wears
[23:49:01] <rue_house> how about overhead transparencies?
[23:49:21] <katsmeow> tyvek actls like a ink wick, cannot get straight clean lines on it
[23:49:33] <rue_house> noted.
[23:49:35] <katsmeow> can yu print o transparanceies?
[23:49:49] <rue_house> yea
[23:50:00] <katsmeow> ok :-)
[23:54:30] <rue_house> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photoelectric-Speed-Sensor-Encoder-Coded-Disc-code-wheel-for-Freescale-Smart-car-/360913291447?hash=item54081bc8b7:g:1NIAAOxycD9TVLAI
[23:54:48] <rue_house> too much for this project, but ooo
[23:55:46] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photoelectric-Speed-Sensor-Encoder-Coded-Disc-code-wheel-for-Freescale-Smart-car-/360913291447
[23:56:40] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm/360913291447
[23:56:53] <katsmeow> muse wheels for cars, hmm
[23:57:37] <katsmeow> steel disc? impressive
[23:57:39] <rue_house> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Encoder-Disk-for-HP-PhotoSmart-8450-8450v-DeskJet-6620-6623-6628-C6487-80020-/121599858407
[23:57:44] <rue_house> hahah didn't even clean it up!
[23:57:45] <rue_house> hahaha
[23:57:58] <rue_house> hahah 1 sold ahhahahahaha
[23:58:26] <katsmeow> to much light wears them out <blink>
[23:58:46] <rue_house> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/10-Precision-Indexing-Rotation-Discs-Disk-Stepper-Motor-Encoder-Shaft-3-01835-02-/301473318206
[23:58:47] <katsmeow> he has 9 of them i wonder how that happened
[23:58:56] <rue_house> too bad its from the states or I could almost afford it
[23:59:26] <katsmeow> says from chna here