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[00:19:17] <katsmeow-afk> 2n4401 , at 1ma base drive, and 10ma collector current, it will saturate down under 0.1v c-e
[00:22:52] <katsmeow-afk> 2n4403 seems as good
[00:24:03] <katsmeow-afk> 2n3904 is better
[00:24:25] <rue_shop3> oh, thats an interesting approach
[00:25:20] <katsmeow-afk> ok, 3904 and 3906 will pull down to 50mv c-e at 10ma and 1ma base drive
[00:25:31] <rue_shop3> Moon pointed out that parallel resistors are a current divider
[00:25:36] <katsmeow-afk> active bridge it is
[00:25:47] <rue_shop3> since its a 4-20ma loop...
[00:25:52] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[00:26:28] <katsmeow-afk> it's why you put your diode in parallel with the meter, no? to shunt current arund it?
[00:27:23] <rue_shop3> but then I bummped the meter impedence up to 6.7 ohms
[00:28:04] <katsmeow-afk> the 2n7000 mosfet is lower Ron, but takes at least 3v to guarantee its on at all
[00:28:14] <rue_shop3> I find that when people screw up things like that, its severe, so the fault pulse would be brief, and the fuse would open
[00:28:40] <rue_shop3> hooking 25vdc to to the 0-20ma meter etc
[00:28:57] <rue_shop3> I think that with what I have, the meter would take the fault pulse
[00:29:00] <katsmeow-afk> like using a tv cheater cord because it fits the 5vdc power hole and pins in their C64 ?
[00:29:36] <rue_shop3> ?
[00:30:08] <katsmeow-afk> [00:03] <rue_shop3> I find that when people screw up things like that, its severe
[00:30:47] <rue_shop3> there is a 1/16A fuse right from the terminal
[00:30:55] <rue_shop3> I cant find a smaller fuse
[00:31:05] <katsmeow-afk> applying 120vac wall power to the 5vdc pins of the computer,, severe
[00:31:19] <rue_shop3> ah
[00:31:21] <rue_shop3> well ya
[00:31:55] <rue_shop3> I tried to power a monitor thru the VGA ground conductors
[00:32:01] <katsmeow-afk> the spare fuse in your Micronta
[00:32:09] <rue_shop3> the video chip popped its top
[00:32:26] <katsmeow-afk> inconsiderate lil chip
[00:32:44] <rue_shop3> partly my fault, the ground pin was cut off the cord
[00:33:00] <rue_shop3> ... and it turns out the neutral on the power bar wasn't connecting
[00:33:10] <katsmeow-afk> the lil red ribbon pull in the battery compartment holds youor spare suse,, you do have a spare fuse?
[00:33:32] <rue_shop3> oh I used that one long ago :)
[00:34:03] <rue_shop3> I'm trying to think of how to 3d print a 'push to release' spare fuse holder
[00:35:27] <katsmeow-afk> prolly cannot, considering the forces involved
[00:36:29] <rue_shop3> hmm
[00:36:49] <rue_shop3> wonder if I should make something in the -everyday-carry- catagory thats 3d printed
[00:40:08] <katsmeow-afk> i know: a spare fuse carrier
[00:41:33] <katsmeow-afk> or, a "here i am" announcer to your home environmental system
[00:42:20] <katsmeow-afk> something that doesn't trounce the usual rf bands, and has a code that changes 100x every day
[00:42:38] <rue_house> arg, I forgot to grab the source off the cnc machine
[00:45:14] <katsmeow-afk> trounce , another word for yur ,, i mean my list
[00:47:39] * katsmeow-afk adds SN74ALVCHR16501PVT
[00:48:48] <rue_house> 01?
[00:48:51] <rue_house> 16 bit...
[00:48:56] <rue_house> 501?
[00:49:00] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[00:49:12] <rue_house> directionally concious 301?
[00:49:28] <rue_house> huge NOR?
[00:49:43] <katsmeow-afk> 74ABT16501 18bit broadside latchable tranciever
[00:50:11] <rue_house> 16+ecc
[00:50:31] <katsmeow-afk> or used on 36bit busses
[00:50:41] <rue_house> ecc that dos't work cause programs can hammer memory to change bits
[00:51:05] <katsmeow-afk> i dunno why they didn't call it 18501
[00:51:26] <rue_house> 16+ecc
[00:52:50] <katsmeow-afk> very intersting, when i have wire nuts in my ears, i cannot hear the ear buds sitting on the table
[00:53:08] <katsmeow-afk> and vice versa
[00:53:35] <katsmeow-afk> learn something new every day
[00:54:32] <rue_house> nothing like finding out that you can get music from capped 120 inserted into your ears
[01:31:00] <katsmeow-afk> gnites
[21:14:10] <^kat^> 5v @ 40a = 200w
[21:14:44] <^kat^> 12v @ 30a = 360w
[21:14:58] <^kat^> 560w
[21:15:30] <^kat^> 2500w genny will power only 4 such hdd boxen
[21:15:59] <^kat^> assuming they actually pull that much
[21:22:26] <rue_shop3> evening
[21:23:01] <^kat^> evening.bak
[21:29:48] <^kat^> "this crust tastes like burned cardboard"
[21:30:01] <^kat^> "stop eating the cardboard"
[21:47:41] <rue_shop3> hmm
[21:52:34] <Tom_itx> rue_shop3, print your adapter?
[21:54:25] <rue_shop3> its a mould for an adapter, it would need to be CNC'd out
[21:54:44] <rue_shop3> I know someone who can do it, but its not near the top of the priority stack right now :(
[21:55:15] <rue_shop3> I 'finished' the 4-20ma instrumentation meter
[21:55:26] <rue_shop3> ... transciever
[21:55:28] <rue_shop3> ...
[21:55:40] <^kat^> 245
[21:55:54] <rue_shop3> ?
[21:56:01] <rue_shop3> that the nick of them?
[21:56:05] <Tom_itx> not a printable part then
[21:56:16] <rue_shop3> it could be printed
[21:56:28] <rue_shop3> I could scale it down and print a little one
[21:56:36] <Tom_itx> i could too
[21:56:36] <^kat^> 74440
[21:56:55] <rue_shop3> motor driver?
[21:57:03] <rue_shop3> not familiar with a '440
[21:57:09] <^kat^> 74440= [!what][!electronics][!integrated circuit] Quad Tridirectional Bus Transceiver with Noninverted open collector outputs
[21:57:10] <Tom_itx> i could (maybe) print it in metal too
[21:57:29] <rue_shop3> ... tridirectional?
[21:57:34] <Tom_itx> they've got a metal printer at the school
[21:58:05] <^kat^> i dunno, tiggr told me
[21:58:25] <rue_shop3> my plan is to split it in half, cnc shape it from wood and cut that in half
[21:58:28] <^kat^> i still have sinus druks in me, cann;t think or mak decisons
[21:58:35] <rue_shop3> er, no, one of those cuts is 3rds
[21:59:09] <^kat^> TEXAS INSTRUMENTS SN74LS440N 20-Pin Dip 74LS440 Through Hole IC New Qty-3
[21:59:09] <^kat^> $10.75
[21:59:24] <rue_shop3> I wonder where the 3d printed star treck badges I did in aluminum went...
[22:00:23] <rue_shop3> the 500Khz resonators for making power supplies arrived today
[22:00:23] <^kat^> i didn't get mine
[22:01:29] <rue_shop3> speaking of which, I should get the cnc doing another digit
[22:53:50] <Moon_> poop
[22:54:40] * ^kat^ points to the liter box
[22:59:23] <^kat^> i must have been hungry, i am chowing down on this slice of pizza and feeling better
[23:03:34] <rue_house> Moon_, whats up
[23:05:20] <rue_house> Moon_, you realize you NEVER respond when your on irc?
[23:06:18] <^kat^> Moon_ , rue often is the same way
[23:07:22] <rue_house> most ofter between 7:20am-5:00pm PST
[23:09:05] <rue_house> "AAAAAAAHHHHHH A BUG! GET IT AWAY! GET IT AWAY!!!!!" "Its ok, its an ant, they are just forrigers. Unless your dead, in which case the ants are the least of your problems"
[23:10:49] <rue_house> hmm, searching my whole file tree for the string "cncit version" is not gonna work, toooo many gigabytes
[23:10:53] <Moon_> I DOOO
[23:11:01] <rue_house> no you dont
[23:11:10] <rue_house> I have logs, its true
[23:11:23] <Moon_> then it must be tru XD
[23:11:31] <rue_house> so whats up
[23:11:36] <rue_house> your leaving next week?
[23:11:56] <^kat^> ?
[23:12:26] <Moon_> yeas
[23:12:28] <Moon_> uh
[23:12:37] <Moon_> end of next week
[23:12:39] <Moon_> ?
[23:12:41] <Moon_> yes
[23:16:34] <Moon_> apt-get install armagetronad
[23:16:45] <Moon_> dont think just do it
[23:44:21] <rue_shop3> ?
[23:48:17] <rue_shop3> dont have a lot of times for games dude...
[23:50:18] <rue_shop3> If I were a gamer, I would not have this shop, or have built all these robots, or know about all this electronic stuff
[23:50:22] <rue_shop3> I'd just be a gamer
[23:52:14] <^kat^> yea, dude
[23:54:29] <^kat^> dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooode
[23:56:23] <rue_shop3> ok I retrofit the goggles with strap and a spring
[23:56:37] <rue_shop3> loom over the spring
[23:57:51] <^kat^> no tension meter with feedback to servo position?
[23:58:31] <rue_shop3> .... NOW you suggest it...
[23:59:44] <rue_shop3> the force is pretty consistant tho, compared to a new elastic