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[00:01:04] <Moon__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD01G-ws8NI
[00:01:10] <Moon__> ^RUE
[00:06:34] <any04781694> gnites
[00:11:29] <rue_shop3> I'll check whe I'm back in the roo
[00:11:31] <rue_shop3> m
[00:11:33] <rue_shop3> :)
[00:27:44] <rue_shop3> "use your brain and catch the rain" XXXXXXXXX
[00:29:19] <rue_shop3> wow, at the rate my machine is destroying the peices of foamm...
[00:37:10] <rue_shop3> I'v got two '1's now
[00:47:15] <Moon__> bip
[00:48:31] <rue_shop3> "spare the drain, catch the rain"
[00:50:30] <rue_shop3> "From pottable refrain, and use instead the rain"
[05:20:34] <rue_bed> "To help get by, when the season is dry"
[16:49:13] <rue_shop3> Tom_itx, here is a project for your 3d ness
[16:49:32] <rue_shop3> hm a shaped block
[16:49:55] <rue_shop3> 4 icnhes long.
[16:49:56] <rue_shop3> ...
[16:50:21] <rue_shop3> one end is a 3" half-circle
[16:51:02] <rue_shop3> the other is 3.5" x 1-1/8" rectangle
[16:51:12] <rue_shop3> even transition in between
[16:51:30] <rue_shop3> one side has a flat taper tho...
[16:51:32] <rue_shop3> hmm
[16:51:50] <Tom_itx> ever do any dbase or ca-clipper programming?
[16:51:59] <rue_shop3> nope
[16:52:01] <Tom_itx> i'm trying to figure out their multidimensional array syntax
[16:52:02] <rue_shop3> just postgress
[16:52:13] <rue_shop3> hmmm
[16:52:32] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure how much of it was actually implemented
[16:52:36] <rue_shop3> wanna try making this if I draw it properly?
[16:52:59] <Tom_itx> i could
[16:53:56] <Tom_itx> you need a stl file back?
[16:54:16] <rue_shop3> I"m trying to think of other ways around the porblem
[16:54:27] <rue_shop3> I could get the block cnc cut if I had an stl
[16:54:28] <Tom_itx> i have no doubt i can draw it
[16:54:45] <rue_shop3> its a mold for a pipe transition
[16:54:51] <rue_shop3> from square to round
[16:54:57] <Tom_itx> easy stuff
[16:55:50] <rue_shop3> 3" round to 3.5"x2.25" rectangular
[16:56:04] <rue_shop3> that would be the full block
[16:56:05] <Tom_itx> ok
[16:56:10] <Tom_itx> want it hollow?
[16:56:13] <rue_shop3> it'd have to get cut up to be used
[16:56:14] <Tom_itx> what wall thickness?
[16:56:17] <rue_shop3> no, solid
[16:56:34] <Tom_itx> woops
[16:56:38] <rue_shop3> its a mold for forming pvc pipe
[16:56:38] <Tom_itx> i'll have to swap hdd
[16:56:43] <rue_shop3> ?
[16:56:43] <Tom_itx> running 32bit one atm
[16:56:51] <Tom_itx> catia is 64bit
[16:56:56] <rue_shop3> ?
[16:57:00] <Tom_itx> i'm coding in 32 bit right now
[16:57:04] <rue_shop3> hmm, didn't know people were making 64 bit only
[16:57:08] <Tom_itx> so i swap hdd on the pc
[16:57:13] <Tom_itx> yes
[16:57:22] <rue_shop3> no hurry I'm still seeing if people are interested in having these thigns made
[16:57:52] <rue_shop3> if there is interest I could send you money! :)
[16:58:14] <Tom_itx> what format would you like?
[16:58:45] <rue_shop3> stl would work
[16:59:24] <Tom_itx> rect base on the bottom for ease?
[16:59:38] <Tom_itx> offset or centered?
[17:00:36] <rue_shop3> there should be 1.5" clear rectangular on one and, and clear round ont he other
[17:00:53] <Tom_itx> that didn't make sense to me
[17:00:53] <rue_shop3> with the remaining inch being the transition
[17:00:59] <rue_shop3> yea I should draw it
[17:01:09] <Tom_itx> hurry up, i'm about done with it
[17:01:09] <rue_shop3> I'll try to scribble it up tonight
[17:01:13] <rue_shop3> ?
[17:01:18] <rue_shop3> you have to return it or soemthing?
[17:01:23] <Tom_itx> no
[17:01:28] <Tom_itx> i'm about done with your part
[17:02:02] <rue_shop3> heh, drawing ...
[17:03:53] <Tom_itx> may take a sec, i reset catia an it's in mm now
[17:08:31] <rue_house> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/p1070770.jpg
[17:08:34] <rue_house> high rez :)
[17:09:06] <rue_house> haha, middle block is 4" long
[17:09:36] <rue_house> (x)
[17:10:01] <rue_house> (yea I slap my dimensions all over the middle of the part, I'm bad)
[17:10:19] <rue_house> is that what you thought I meant?
[17:10:29] <Tom_itx> how thick is it from rect to circle?
[17:10:42] <rue_house> thats the 4"
[17:10:48] <rue_house> 1.5+1+1.5
[17:14:24] <rue_shop3> ok I might as well make a trip to the metal recycler
[18:06:49] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/RUE_Transition.STL
[18:15:48] <rue_shop3> ok, that was a good trip, I got about 12' of 1/2" steel pipe, a battery connector, and a dishwasher valve
[18:16:03] <rue_shop3> and got rid of about 100lbs of steel plate
[18:16:53] <Tom_itx> you may want this next one instead
[18:19:36] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/RUE_Funnel.STL
[18:19:47] <Tom_itx> that first one may not be dimensionally right
[18:20:34] <Tom_itx> what's it for?
[18:21:19] <rue_shop3> its for molding pvc pipe to make an adapter
[18:21:27] <Tom_itx> 3" half circle??
[18:21:31] <Tom_itx> i did a hole circle
[18:21:33] <Tom_itx> whole
[18:21:34] <rue_shop3> yea
[18:21:42] <rue_shop3> I was origionally describing a half block
[18:21:55] <rue_shop3> cause I have to split it up to form the pipe
[18:22:13] <Tom_itx> so what you got above is a 3.5 x 2.25 rectangle transitioning up 4" to a 3" circle
[18:22:36] <Tom_itx> do you need a flange on it?
[18:22:37] <rue_shop3> ok, one adjustment :)
[18:22:40] <rue_shop3> was it easy?
[18:22:45] <Tom_itx> yes
[18:22:55] <rue_shop3> the round end needs to be compeltely round for 1.5" length
[18:23:03] <rue_shop3> ditto with the square end
[18:23:05] <Tom_itx> hurry up though i gotta boot up the 32bit drive and finish my code
[18:23:17] <Tom_itx> ^^ that's what i just asked you
[18:23:27] <rue_shop3> so the transition only occurs over the middle one inch
[18:23:38] <Tom_itx> huh?
[18:24:00] <rue_shop3> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/not_public_dont_open/p1070770.jpg
[18:24:09] <Tom_itx> so what you want is a 3.5 x 2.25 rectangle transitioning up 4" to a 3" circle with a 1.5" round boss above the circle?
[18:24:16] <rue_shop3> so the end 1.5" are not trnsitionary
[18:24:36] <Tom_itx> open the stl and we'll go from there
[18:24:48] <rue_shop3> yup I'm looing at it
[18:24:55] <rue_shop3> its a steady transition over the 4" length
[18:25:06] <rue_shop3> the transition should occur just within the middle inch
[18:25:06] <Tom_itx> yeah
[18:25:17] <Tom_itx> then round from there up?
[18:25:30] <rue_shop3> round on the one end and rectangular on the other
[18:25:46] <rue_shop3> so that the pipes on either end can slide in 1.5" without hittting the transition area
[18:25:47] <Tom_itx> so you want the transition to occur lower?
[18:26:05] <rue_shop3> transition just in the middle inch of the 4" length
[18:26:07] <Tom_itx> lemme try something and you say if it's what you want
[18:26:12] <rue_shop3> ok
[18:27:49] <rue_shop3> how do tell it to do that, this thing falls into the "organic shape" catagory I cant really do
[18:29:42] <Tom_itx> overall 4"?
[18:29:54] <rue_shop3> yup, with the transition in the middle inch
[18:29:59] <Tom_itx> ahh ok
[18:30:12] * Tom_itx grabs the slide rule and recalculates
[18:30:18] <rue_shop3> I suspect its a really each adjustment to what you have
[18:30:53] * rue_shop3 shakes head
[18:30:55] <rue_shop3> really easy
[18:31:55] <Tom_itx> pull the file down
[18:31:57] <Tom_itx> same name
[18:32:18] <Tom_itx> unless you want a solid fillet at the extrusion transition
[18:33:13] <rue_shop3> yea thats it!
[18:33:18] <Moon_> HU?
[18:33:35] <Moon_> ?me farts
[18:33:40] * Moon_ farts
[18:33:42] <Moon_> yeah
[18:33:47] <rue_shop3> Moon_, shall we get your trascotr going so you have drive it home
[18:33:49] <rue_shop3> ?
[18:33:56] <rue_shop3> ... before dark
[18:34:02] <rue_shop3> thats it tom, really cool....
[18:34:54] <rue_shop3> I think if I chop it into 3rds, it can be pulled out of the pipe after it sets...
[18:35:23] <Moon_> o yeah would you put that battery on charge for me
[18:35:32] <rue_shop3> Tom_itx, so is that somekinda transitionary extrusion?
[18:35:49] <rue_shop3> Moon_, choose one of 3 batterys for me to put on charge
[18:36:15] <rue_shop3> Tom_itx, thanks, I'll send you money if it makes any!
[18:36:32] <Tom_itx> naw, it's free
[18:36:53] <Moon_> little one in the tractor
[18:37:57] <Tom_itx> rue_bed, SW calls it a lofted base
[18:38:24] <rue_shop3> interestig wording
[18:38:45] <Tom_itx> lofted boss/base
[18:38:53] <Tom_itx> do you want fillets on the transitions?
[18:42:47] <Tom_itx> meh, it didn't like that so much
[18:44:50] <Tom_itx> smaller fillet worked ok
[18:56:27] <rue_shop3> Moon_, that battery is down to 4V, it needed to be kept charged, its trash now
[18:56:30] <rue_shop3> :/
[18:56:44] <rue_shop3> it came out of a hard life and wasn't one that could take being low
[19:07:47] <Tom_itx> rue_shop3, what's that part for?
[19:35:44] <rue_shop3> its for molding pvc pipe
[20:19:05] <katsmeow> why i am pooped, and why you should drink your protein shakes :
http://designerthinking.com/driveway/driveway-widening.html
[20:22:16] <katsmeow> there was no digging there, so i supplied some at that location
[20:24:46] <Moon_> sorry
[20:25:05] <katsmeow> you're welcome
[20:29:05] <Moon_> I just had a shit I'm confused
[20:29:47] <katsmeow> i hope you got the direction correct
[20:31:36] <katsmeow> microcontrollers :
http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=tda&_ssn=umo88&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.X8097.TRS0&_nkw=8097&_sacat=0
[20:32:03] <katsmeow> i have no info on their language, afaik those have no rom or eprom in them
[20:46:14] <Moon_> rue_shop3 Call me
[20:46:49] <katsmeow> CK05BX101K is 100pf or 0.1ufd ?
[20:46:53] <Moon_> ±
[20:47:22] <katsmeow> ebay is saying it's 100pf, the CDE datasheet is saying it's 0.1u
[20:48:01] <katsmeow> 100pf is .0001u , the last time i looked
[20:58:48] <katsmeow> rue, 2000 smd leds for clocks going for $6
[21:00:06] <katsmeow> "super bright green" , auction ended, $5.50
[21:23:55] <katsmeow> ok, why aren't my red leds working as photodiodes when i put light into them?
[21:27:08] <katsmeow> RUE
[21:27:11] <katsmeow> 720 PCS SIGNETICS N 74F373 Integrated Circuits
[21:27:11] <katsmeow> $23.73
[21:27:11] <katsmeow> 10 bids
[21:27:11] <katsmeow> +$21.11 shipping
[21:27:11] <katsmeow> Watch
[21:27:12] <katsmeow> 50m left
[21:27:17] <katsmeow> DIP PACKAGES
[21:30:42] <katsmeow> RUE
[21:30:47] <katsmeow> why aren't my red leds working as photodiodes when i put light into them?
[22:34:15] <katsmeow> http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-PCS-TEXAS-INSTRUMENTS-MSP430F147IRTDT-/361490574351
[22:34:54] <katsmeow> 100 PCS TEXAS INSTRUMENTS MSP430F147IRTDT <<== 99 cents , time left 2d 17h
[22:35:39] <katsmeow> 32KB+256B Flash Memory,
[22:35:40] <katsmeow> 1KB RAM
[22:36:07] <katsmeow> qfp-64
[22:37:22] <katsmeow> apparently, 6 8-bit io ports
[22:39:37] <katsmeow> no clue how to program it
[23:13:23] <rue_house> kat, you putting in the wrong colour light?
[23:13:52] <katsmeow> white covers it all, right?
[23:14:02] <rue_house> $35.75 USPS Priority Mail International | See details
[23:14:18] <rue_house> it depends what the white is comming from
[23:14:21] <katsmeow> for 100 cpus? sounds great!
[23:14:47] <rue_house> tiny little SMt things
[23:15:14] <katsmeow> tiny? they are qfp-64 packages
[23:16:14] <katsmeow> take a dip-40 cpu from the 1980's and glue 4 of them to it's back as math coprocessors!
[23:23:16] <rue_house> I cant work with stuff that small
[23:23:27] <rue_house> has to be .05" pitch min.
[23:23:47] <katsmeow> you see the dip-20 latches you want?
[23:26:06] <katsmeow> oh, the url didn't post
[23:27:16] * katsmeow ponders sending rue latches for the clock
[23:29:39] <katsmeow> well, there's 10 for $2.50 , free s&h
[23:30:58] <katsmeow> well, there's 25 for $8.90 , free s&h
[23:32:26] <rue_shop3> I cant solder to it
[23:33:02] <katsmeow> to dip-20's? ??!!??
[23:33:26] <rue_shop3> oh the 373
[23:33:27] <rue_shop3> yea
[23:33:32] <rue_shop3> I'm deliberating
[23:34:22] <katsmeow> lemme know what you want, i'll see if i got any
[23:35:15] <rue_shop3> oh I cant find the actual listing tho
[23:35:41] <rue_shop3> how about LM393
[23:36:09] <rue_shop3> actaully 74HC4060
[23:36:54] <katsmeow> i got 90 393 in soic
[23:36:57] <rue_shop3> yea 74xx 4060
[23:37:06] <rue_shop3> hmm
[23:37:17] <rue_shop3> how much for... 40 of them?
[23:37:35] <katsmeow> i got a few 74xx40xx, but no 4060
[23:37:39] <rue_shop3> you did have those sram chips tho didn't ya?
[23:37:44] <katsmeow> yeas
[23:37:54] <rue_shop3> I'm still working on digits for ya
[23:38:24] <katsmeow> i am drunk trying to beat the pain-cost of
http://designerthinking.com/driveway/driveway-widening.html , so i cannot talk numbers now
[23:39:13] * rue_shop3 whispers in kats ear "you build machines from steel, remember?"
[23:39:19] <katsmeow> dija know a 74LVX8051 is NOT a cpu?
[23:39:25] <rue_shop3> :)
[23:39:36] <rue_shop3> whats is it?
[23:40:14] <katsmeow> it took me 15 years of waiting quietly to do that this week, waiting for a time there;s no dogs to bark at me and get me jailed
[23:40:22] <rue_shop3> howd ya motorize the door?
[23:40:51] <rue_shop3> nice compressor tank
[23:40:56] <katsmeow> what motorised door?
[23:41:03] <rue_shop3> wher'd the compressor go?
[23:41:25] <rue_shop3> the door isn't motorized lift?
[23:41:32] <katsmeow> came with no compressor for $5, think i'd turn that down? i got a compressor or 5 in the cellar
[23:41:33] <rue_shop3> counterbalanced?
[23:42:04] <katsmeow> there's a crane overhead if i need it real open
[23:42:16] <katsmeow> else i lean on it and it's open enough to be a doorway
[23:42:47] <katsmeow> the 8051 is like a 8:1 analog mux, but really low Ron
[23:43:34] <katsmeow> what's the procedure to see a led be a photodiode?
[23:43:35] <rue_shop3> 4051
[23:43:36] <rue_shop3> huh
[23:43:39] <katsmeow> yeas
[23:43:56] <rue_shop3> katsmeow, mostly I'v just played with the capacitance
[23:44:04] <rue_shop3> which goes down a lot with light
[23:44:10] <rue_shop3> reverse bias and put on a 555
[23:44:27] <rue_shop3> they seem to be able to extert up to about 0.1uF in the dark
[23:44:39] <katsmeow> o
[23:44:42] <katsmeow> drat
[23:44:55] <rue_shop3> I suppose you have to series couple it with a cap to filter out the dc bias current
[23:45:01] <rue_shop3> er...
[23:45:04] <rue_shop3> I cant think
[23:45:05] <rue_shop3> just a sec
[23:45:10] <katsmeow> i did see 2ua change in some current thru it, but that's gonna be hard to isolate and detect
[23:46:10] <rue_shop3> on this random led I picked out of the bin, I get 1V when exposed to a bright light
[23:46:22] <rue_shop3> use the lm393
[23:46:29] <rue_shop3> high inp. imp. comp
[23:47:22] <katsmeow> 1v how? dvm across the legs? it *generates* electricity?
[23:47:27] <rue_shop3> yes
[23:47:39] <rue_shop3> for the record its a 5W white led src
[23:48:54] <katsmeow> 1w led = 70mv, that's easily detectable
[23:49:26] <katsmeow> <blink>
[23:49:41] <katsmeow> they *generate* voltage, who'da thunk
