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[00:24:09] <rue_house> Moon_, ?
[00:24:20] <katsmeow> HAPPY MIDNITE
[00:24:36] <rue_house> Moon_, do you ever want to play tetris again?
[00:27:22] <rue_bed> katsmeow,
[00:27:32] <rue_bed> do you have a 3/4" NPT tap?
[00:28:02] <katsmeow> close, got a 3/8 tap
[00:28:23] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:28:24] <katsmeow> 3/8-18
[00:28:53] <rue_bed> I thought you might have found one in the bottom of a bucket of scrap metal bits at the recycler
[00:29:04] <rue_bed> your sure you havn;t?
[00:29:25] <katsmeow> i have appile of those things upstairs, dunno what's in it, think i'd have rememebreed a 3/4
[00:29:37] <rue_bed> http://www.metalgearsolid.be/images/figurine-play-arts-kai-cyborg-ninja-rouge-metal-gear-solid-s-01.jpg
[00:29:42] <katsmeow> got 3/4 reamers
[00:29:45] <rue_bed> is this cyborg happy?
[00:30:23] <katsmeow> no way to tell by it's appearances, as it cannot alter them to show it's feelings
[00:30:34] <rue_bed> maybe its sad
[00:30:49] <rue_bed> http://www.tomopop.com/ul/_tomopop/24904-tomopop-review-square-enix-s-play-arts-kai-cyborg-ninja/IMG_4210-620x.jpg
[00:30:53] <rue_bed> and what of this one?
[00:31:04] <katsmeow> since it has no need to chew, i won'der why it has a jawline
[00:31:26] <katsmeow> same, no idea
[00:31:35] <rue_bed> maybe its warming its hands
[00:31:55] <katsmeow> or getting ready to puch two guys in the drotch
[00:32:23] <rue_bed> your text buffer starts to rapidly degrade after midnight
[00:32:47] * katsmeow nida
[00:32:53] <katsmeow> nods
[00:32:57] <rue_bed> ah
[00:33:04] <rue_bed> I couldnt' correct that
[00:33:28] <katsmeow> you could if you were an Ai with knowledge of the keybd layout
[00:33:57] <rue_bed> really, every itteration of everything?
[00:34:12] <katsmeow> try the most likely first
[00:34:22] <rue_bed> humans are scarry because they are intelligent, which makes them completely unpredictable
[00:34:44] <katsmeow> nida was used an an action, hence that means liik for verb typos
[00:35:00] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:35:08] <katsmeow> the i and the a were both offset by 1 to the left
[00:35:10] <rue_bed> I dont analize like that
[00:35:32] <rue_bed> npy gsit
[00:35:57] <rue_bed> exatly
[00:35:59] <katsmeow> i cannot actually analise after midnite, after a sleepy pil, and afetr enough ammaretto
[00:36:10] <rue_bed> what slepppy pill do you use?
[00:36:23] <rue_bed> I was given prozac, which dosn't help
[00:36:25] <rue_bed> er, no
[00:36:30] <katsmeow> an otc that's pretty dangerous: diphenhydramine
[00:36:41] <katsmeow> and valerian root
[00:36:42] <rue_bed> damn, uh its...
[00:37:03] <rue_bed> that nauzia stuff
[00:37:08] <katsmeow> i have no off switch that i know of
[00:37:10] <rue_bed> you take when on a boat
[00:37:26] <katsmeow> no, that's d____ something else
[00:37:32] <katsmeow> dramamine
[00:38:02] <rue_bed> I need to understand the context system of my brain
[00:38:14] <katsmeow> introspection
[00:38:17] <rue_bed> in this context, that word is not available
[00:38:28] <rue_bed> I think I can handle a few contexts at once
[00:38:37] <rue_bed> none of them apparently have access to it
[00:38:48] <katsmeow> i useto be able t max mne at 8 channels, as many as 5 concious
[00:38:52] <rue_bed> I wonder if I can use the missing words to count the contexts
[00:39:13] <rue_bed> I bet I can
[00:39:21] <rue_bed> if I index them by definition
[00:39:33] <katsmeow> problem with using all 8, left very little power to handle walking and such if errors occured
[00:39:37] <rue_bed> I can try to recall them to work out which contexts are available
[00:40:07] <rue_bed> rue_house, the name of the pill you were given to help sleep
[00:40:37] <rue_bed> if I know how many contexts there are, I can approximate the size of each of them
[00:41:07] <katsmeow> i wonder what your definition of context is
[00:41:09] <rue_bed> this will reveal data about the ultimate ability to do problem solving
[00:41:23] <rue_bed> its like paged memory
[00:41:44] <rue_bed> none of the memory pages at my current disposal have that word
[00:41:59] <rue_bed> if I'm using a different set of pages, its available
[00:42:00] <katsmeow> which word?
[00:42:08] <rue_bed> I dont know the name
[00:42:15] <rue_bed> and THATS the key
[00:42:20] <katsmeow> which word?
[00:42:32] <rue_bed> I need to know which words aren't always available
[00:42:43] <rue_bed> I hit them quite often
[00:42:52] <rue_bed> I should be able to map them out
[00:43:04] <katsmeow> i cannot help if you cannot converse with me
[00:43:10] <katsmeow> you are only talking AT me
[00:43:11] <rue_bed> I know the word if I hear it, but I cant recall it, I just know its definition
[00:43:25] <rue_bed> its GRAVALL!
[00:43:35] <katsmeow> no such word
[00:43:39] <rue_bed> ok, so, I'm using a different set of memory pages right now
[00:43:53] <rue_bed> the pharmasist gave me gravall to help me sleep
[00:44:02] <Moon_> brutal
[00:44:08] <rue_bed> it dosn't wrk
[00:44:17] <rue_bed> but its helping me reverse engineer my brain
[00:44:38] <Moon_> hard time sleeping RUE?
[00:44:46] <rue_bed> every time I cant recall a word I need to write dwn its definition
[00:44:52] <katsmeow> gravol , it's dramamine
[00:45:13] <rue_bed> when Ihave a list of 15 or 20 words, I can start trying to go thru them and see how many I cant recall at once
[00:45:16] <katsmeow> it would help if you could spell the words
[00:45:38] <rue_bed> if my mind can handle several cntexts at once, I should be able to map the patterns
[00:45:46] <rue_bed> I should number each of the words
[00:46:01] <rue_bed> sorry, spelling is a differnt issue
[00:46:13] <katsmeow> Dimenhydrinate (marketed as Dramamine, Gravol and many other brand names) is an over-the-counter antiemetic used for the treatment of the symptoms of motion sickness.
[00:46:15] <rue_bed> gravol is a name tho,
[00:46:46] <rue_bed> Moon_, with my brain, its always hard t sleep
[00:46:54] <rue_bed> I suspect you have similar issues
[00:47:03] <rue_bed> actually, I recon its kats issue t
[00:47:04] <rue_bed> oo
[00:47:20] <rue_bed> kat, if you dont take the sleep pills, you just stay awake thinking, right?
[00:47:22] <katsmeow> nope i don't get dizzy or vomit in bed asleep
[00:47:30] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:47:39] <rue_bed> yea
[00:47:46] <rue_bed> did it get worse as you got older?
[00:47:54] <katsmeow> not really
[00:47:58] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:48:20] <rue_bed> good
[00:48:21] <katsmeow> in my 20's i generally skipped every other nite of sleep and just stayed up doing things
[00:48:29] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:48:38] <rue_bed> I'm not that bad
[00:48:49] <rue_bed> tho, I suspect I could be
[00:48:53] <katsmeow> i skip maybe a day or 2 per week now, even if i do dose myself
[00:49:24] <rue_bed> why do you force yourself to sleep? not enought to do and nothing your allowed to do at night?
[00:50:16] * katsmeow nods
[00:50:33] <rue_bed> what about compiuter programming?
[00:50:37] <katsmeow> everything i *must* do is outside still
[00:50:45] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:50:50] <Moon_> yes
[00:51:01] <Moon_> ^to abaove
[00:51:02] <katsmeow> i stopped programming when i discovered no one wanted an intelligent computer
[00:51:11] <rue_bed> I do
[00:51:30] <Moon_> no RUE wants a synaptic emulator
[00:51:45] <rue_bed> hey, I dont want just one thing!!
[00:51:54] <Moon_> :P
[00:52:03] <rue_bed> I put the internet modem on a UPS tho
[00:52:14] <Moon_> cool biz
[00:52:39] <rue_bed> well, katsmeow I'll say goodnight before you drop off
[00:52:48] <Moon_> so Valerian????
[00:52:52] <rue_bed> Moon_, how often can you not recall a word?
[00:53:03] <Moon_> too much
[00:53:09] <Moon_> things like table and shoe
[00:53:30] <katsmeow> Valerian is a long time well known herb
[00:53:32] <rue_bed> start writing down the defintions of the words in a little book, see how many you can list
[00:53:49] <rue_bed> what about prozack
[00:53:51] <katsmeow> most humans operate with 1000 words
[00:53:55] <rue_bed> damnit, no, ..
[00:54:02] <rue_bed> the turkey stuff
[00:54:10] <Moon_> i will if i remember and i will take a mental note to do so
[00:54:13] <rue_bed> rue_house, the turkey stuff that makes you sleepy
[00:54:14] <katsmeow> i don't take it
[00:54:27] <katsmeow> or melatonin
[00:54:27] <rue_bed> hydromiffinin?
[00:54:47] <rue_bed> turkifin?
[00:54:51] <rue_bed> ugh
[00:54:56] <Moon_> POT?
[00:55:00] <rue_bed> haha, no...
[00:55:07] <katsmeow> the drug? tryptofan
[00:55:08] <rue_bed> its in turkey meat
[00:55:11] <katsmeow> phan
[00:55:12] <rue_bed> yea
[00:55:34] <Moon_> Passin flower
[00:55:38] <Moon_> passioN*
[00:56:06] <rue_bed> awe, look, 3 insimniacs chatting in a channel at night
[00:56:18] <Moon_> Burp
[00:56:21] <Moon_> :D
[00:56:29] <rue_bed> well, till they fall over anyhow
[00:56:29] <Moon_> about how to sleep
[00:56:45] <rue_bed> we should be talking about WHY to sleep
[00:56:52] <Moon_> yes WHY
[00:56:56] <Moon_> i know
[00:57:05] <rue_bed> were pointlessly trying to cram ourselfs into a box called 'normal'
[00:57:21] <Moon_> to loose time to do things that give purpose and inherintly reason for living
[00:57:59] <Moon_> whitch lead to depression and possibly less sleep
[00:58:08] <rue_bed> Moon_, dont forget to leave some animal traps in the place when you leave
[00:58:21] <Moon_> and into a downward spiral eventaully leading to suiside
[00:58:22] <rue_bed> hmm
[00:58:28] <Moon_> oh and yes i will
[00:58:32] <Moon_> (TRAPS)
[00:59:18] <rue_bed> my father was fond of a peice of cheese hanging over a self-writing, tipping board over a garbage pail of water
[00:59:39] <Moon_> ?????
[00:59:50] <Moon_> im tring to vision in my 3rd eye
[00:59:54] <rue_bed> apparently drowning isn't too bad a way to go
[01:00:05] <Moon_> O
[01:00:11] <Moon_> for the mouse
[01:00:13] <Moon_> HA
[01:00:15] <Moon_> shit
[01:00:32] <rue_bed> it stressfull, then intoxicating
[01:00:39] <Moon_> hmmm
[01:00:55] <Moon_> snap trap is an easu purchase though
[01:00:59] <Moon_> easy
[01:01:03] <Moon_> *
[01:01:10] <rue_bed> and needs to be checked often
[01:01:19] <Moon_> nah just buy 12
[01:01:20] <rue_bed> 10 weeks
[01:01:24] <Moon_> 24??
[01:01:37] <Moon_> and Stefan will be checking on my place
[01:01:43] <rue_bed> think of a 10 week old mouse body in a trap
[01:01:45] <rue_bed> k
[01:02:11] <rue_bed> maybe we should make some optic traps
[01:02:19] <rue_bed> how long till you go?
[01:02:33] <Moon_> with a mouse encoder type thing? Irony anyone??
[01:02:43] <Moon_> 3 weeks
[01:02:48] <rue_bed> just an ir beam that trips a solinoid
[01:02:53] <rue_bed> so far they are live traps
[01:03:16] <Moon_> cool
[01:04:03] <katsmeow> suirrels may not be heavy enough to trip a live cage either
[01:04:39] <Moon_> squirrels fit in an engine bore pretty good though
[01:04:48] <Moon_> then with a hydrolic press
[01:04:56] <Moon_> squirrel juice
[01:05:15] <katsmeow> busted valve stems
[01:05:31] <Moon_> :P
[01:06:10] <Moon_> "shit theres bone in mah valve guide"
[01:06:28] <katsmeow> they are solid-liquid too, they take up more spce than in th head, you have a good chance of other engine damage
[01:07:18] <Moon_> :(
[01:07:56] <katsmeow> moveable cage wall to hold them against one end, then tip the cage into sme water
[01:09:32] <katsmeow> gnites
[01:10:11] <Moon_> oh she peaced it
[01:13:30] <rue_bed> I'm drifting off
[01:13:38] <rue_bed> I was working on the pipe bender today
[01:13:43] <Moon_> dope
[01:13:49] <Moon_> KNIGHT
[22:28:06] <Moon_> YO
[22:28:25] <katsmeow> OY
[22:29:43] <Moon_> hows it?
[22:30:39] <katsmeow> it's going
[22:36:08] <Moon_> cool
[22:37:26] <rue_house> .
[22:37:39] <rue_house> so I cut up the hot water tank
[22:38:02] <rue_house> katsmeow, how do I evenly spread the old tank to add the 6.25" I need in its circumfrance
[22:38:48] <katsmeow> if you make internal struts to hold it in shape, can you leave it in there as you weld it up?
[22:39:05] <rue_house> yea, ends are open
[22:39:13] <katsmeow> ok, then do that
[22:39:53] <rue_house> how would you make it?
[22:40:10] <katsmeow> mind you, the original tank metal may never lose it's springyness, and may shift next year and break your welds
[22:40:27] <rue_house> not much force on it
[22:40:32] <rue_house> it sprung open
[22:40:36] <rue_house> C
[22:40:55] <katsmeow> i know, i made boat pontoons with water heaters
[22:41:02] <katsmeow> what diameter is it?
[22:41:13] <rue_house> I'm going from 20" to 22"
[22:43:45] <katsmeow> ok, make a 10" disk, drill a hole in the center approximately, then make a 1" angle measuring stick with a pin to fit that hole, and a pin at the other end to be 11" froom the center of that pin in the disc
[22:44:47] <katsmeow> now yu can move that measuing stick around the disc, and set 8" steel in place by butting it to the outer pin, clamp and weld the 8"
[22:44:53] <katsmeow> now yu can move that measuing stick around the disc, and set 8" steel in place by butting it to the outer pin, clamp and weld the 8"
[22:44:55] <katsmeow> now yu can move that measuing stick around the disc, and set 8" steel in place by butting it to the outer pin, clamp and weld the 8"
[22:45:19] <katsmeow> repeat as many times as yu need struts to hold the tank round
[22:46:22] <katsmeow> that will make it be round, i fear you may need to cut a prefectly round hole in a plate and put it outside the tank after you get the added 6" welded in
[22:46:43] <katsmeow> i'd just get a bigger water heater
[22:48:15] <katsmeow> or get a 11 guage steel plate 69" long, get it rolled, and weld it to the ends you obviously have
[22:48:38] <rue_house> oh its a jig maing jig
[22:48:44] <rue_house> making
[22:49:07] <rue_house> I cant get a buigger tank, I been trying ofr 4 months now
[22:50:02] <rue_house> I can get small ones tho, lots of metal to be able ot make a big tank from small ones
[22:50:22] <katsmeow> ok
[22:50:52] <katsmeow> yeas, it's a jig, but the only part of it left when done is the measuing stick with 2 pins in it
[22:51:12] <katsmeow> the disc gets all the structs welded to it
[23:02:05] <rue_house> I wonder if I can use some of the HSS I have and make a 7/8" drill bit
[23:02:19] <rue_house> HSS is often brazed to blades isn't it?
[23:03:36] <katsmeow> carbide is
[23:04:05] <katsmeow> iirc, drill bits and saw blades are 100% hhs if they are hhs
[23:05:33] <rue_house> maybe I could dissassemble a saw blade
[23:06:57] <katsmeow> tank steel is really tough
[23:07:32] <katsmeow> i would punch a hole with the torch, and then round it with a high speed superdremel
[23:08:09] <rue_house> oh I need to drill a 7/8" hole thru 4" of aluminum too
[23:37:56] <Moon_> how many watts in a HP
[23:38:06] <Moon_> quik
[23:38:27] <Moon_> too late
[23:39:55] <rue_house> 746
[23:40:10] <rue_house> its one less than a crashie 747
