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[00:24:04] <katsmeow> happy midnites
[02:40:26] <rue_shop3> http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ghOFJVXXXXatXFXXq6xXFXXXz/300-trillingen-bord-vibrator-baseren-chassis-automatische-feeder-trays-elektromagneet-controller-lineaire-feeder.jpg
[20:20:28] <katsmeow> rue, i put rice in the nukebox at 4:30pm , on hi gh, for 30 minutes, i just remembered it and went to get it at 8pm, and it wasn't burned, but it was cold
[20:20:59] <katsmeow> so i added flavors and a lil more rice and other ingrediments, on high for 20 min, and i bet it doesn't burn again
[20:21:05] <katsmeow> what am i doing wrong?
[20:39:42] <rue_house> hmm
[20:39:49] <rue_house> note sure
[20:40:01] <rue_house> http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ghOFJVXXXXatXFXXq6xXFXXXz/300-trillingen-bord-vibrator-baseren-chassis-automatische-feeder-trays-elektromagneet-controller-lineaire-feeder.jpg
[20:40:04] <rue_house> ^^ Imade one!
[20:40:09] <rue_house> I'll go take a pics
[20:41:56] <katsmeow-afk> why does that look like a twist-step electromagnet?
[20:42:28] <katsmeow-afk> and what does you use it for?
[20:43:33] <rue_shop3> its for shaking a tub of screws
[20:43:47] <rue_shop3> that has a ramp spiraled around the inside going up
[20:44:02] <rue_shop3> so I can dump screws into it and have it shuffle them into a sorter
[20:45:27] <rue_shop3> it looks like the mechanism is usefull for a lot of thigns
[20:47:02] <rue_shop3> you have seen these things before?
[20:47:05] <katsmeow-afk> ah
[20:47:23] <katsmeow-afk> seen the cone-ramp-shakers, yeas
[20:47:30] <katsmeow-afk> didn't know you had one
[20:47:35] <rue_shop3> thats what I'm making it for
[20:47:55] <katsmeow-afk> well, the rice came out perfect again
[20:48:52] <katsmeow-afk> i have burned it on a stove so badly that i cleaned the pot with a body grinder, but it just won't burn in the nukebox, even recooked
[20:51:03] <rue_shop3> I have a wire cup soley for fixing pots
[20:51:40] <rue_shop3> I think I have to mount this 'motor' to a concrete base
[20:52:38] <katsmeow-afk> well, 600lbs of concrete are cheaper than steel, but the steel will be smaller
[21:21:19] * rue_shop3 wakes up.... oops...
[21:50:53] <katsmeow-afk> <cough>
[21:53:21] <katsmeow-afk> <<COUGH>>
[21:54:37] <katsmeow-afk> so, might have snow tomorrow here
[21:54:48] <katsmeow-afk> but i bet not
[21:57:48] <katsmeow-afk> when i told you to go get soap and paper and clean the bugs off the windshield, i did not mean sandpaper
[22:21:01] <rue_house> I need to build the top of the sandblaster more like a roof
[22:21:09] <rue_house> getting too much moisture in it
[22:22:26] <katsmeow-afk> roofs come in a great many shapes, how did you pick a shape that wasn't like some roof somewhere?
[22:23:41] <rue_house> its a single pitch slope, but its tooo pourus
[22:24:08] <katsmeow-afk> o
[22:24:24] <katsmeow-afk> umm,, paint it
[22:24:49] <katsmeow-afk> is it possible the moisture is incoming with the compressed air?
[22:26:07] <rue_house> no
[22:26:16] <rue_house> its soaking in thru the plywood top
[22:26:53] <katsmeow-afk> paint retards water
[22:27:13] <rue_house> not when it peels up like the stuff I put on it
[22:27:26] <katsmeow-afk> oh
[22:27:47] <rue_house> and there has been no dry weather to give me a change to give it another coat
[22:28:09] <rue_house> I suppose
[22:28:32] <katsmeow-afk> ruefing tin?
[22:28:37] <rue_house> 60' or so of 1/2" PVC dosn't cost toooo much to run an air line to the deck
[22:28:44] <rue_house> move the sand blaster under there
[22:28:57] <rue_house> or... put the compressor under the deck too
[22:28:58] <rue_house> hmmm
[22:29:08] <katsmeow-afk> 1/2 won't pass much air either
[22:29:12] <rue_house> sometimes the way things are needs to be questioned
[22:29:20] <rue_house> 1/2" water pipe?
[22:29:33] <rue_house> that should be more than enough???
[22:30:16] <katsmeow-afk> for 60ft?
[22:30:27] <rue_house> air is pretty thin
[22:30:30] <rue_house> esp at 100psi
[22:30:53] * katsmeow-afk will leave it to you to decide your needs
[22:31:04] <rue_house> too much friction?
[22:31:32] <rue_house> but 1/2" is like ( )
[22:31:40] <katsmeow-afk> yeas, and consider that after you have run the line, you will want to do more and more with that remote air terminal
[22:31:53] <rue_house> naaa
[22:31:58] <rue_house> tho, your right
[22:32:08] <rue_house> I should make a site-wide air supply
[22:32:45] <rue_house> a supply that can supply so much air that..... my supper is burning...
[22:34:02] <katsmeow-afk> you ignored the nukebox, didn't you?
[22:34:27] <rue_house> perogies
[22:34:30] <rue_house> where was I...
[22:34:38] <rue_house> oh yea, should I upgrade my OS kernel?
[22:34:40] <rue_house> hmm
[22:36:54] <Tom_itx> abs is stronger than pla
[22:37:16] <katsmeow-afk> ?
[22:37:25] <Tom_itx> had 2 parts printed
[22:37:32] <Tom_itx> the pla broke off a flange
[22:37:39] <Tom_itx> the abs seems ok
[22:38:03] <Tom_itx> it was a bs part anyway... nothing i will use
[22:38:58] <Tom_itx> if the other pc was up i'd post a pic
[22:42:40] <rue_house> Tom_itx, when did you get a printer?
[22:43:06] <Tom_itx> skool
[22:43:16] <rue_house> oh yea
[22:43:37] <rue_house> oh, hmm, looks like I have to get a new kernel
[22:43:46] <rue_house> the one I havnt' wont compile anymore
[22:43:48] <rue_house> (this is common)
[22:43:53] <Tom_itx> catia is kinda fun
[22:43:57] <Tom_itx> and very powerful
[22:44:14] <Tom_itx> i suppose it should be for the 75k it costs
[22:44:39] <rue_house> hah, who managed to charge them 75k for a printer!?
[22:44:41] <rue_house> hahaha
[22:44:48] <Tom_itx> nobody
[22:45:01] <Tom_itx> do you know what catia is?
[22:45:03] <rue_house> oh that the software?
[22:46:22] <Tom_itx> they have probably 25 or more different classes on it
[22:50:01] <Tom_itx> full blown kinematics & sim, stress analysis, electrical design, harness design, sheet metal, part design, surface design & machining for both and alot more
[22:51:00] <Tom_itx> drafting, assembly, functional tolerancing, molds....
[22:52:31] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Problem23.jpg
[22:52:39] <Tom_itx> that was an interesting one to do
[22:53:13] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Problem28.jpg
[22:53:19] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Problem21.jpg
[22:53:26] <Tom_itx> for a handfull
[22:56:49] <rue_house> it'll flatten th e peice for cutout?
[22:57:51] <Tom_itx> pretty sure
[22:58:10] <rue_house> so what the diff between it and solidworks?
[22:58:19] <Tom_itx> they are very similar
[22:58:25] <Tom_itx> however catia is alot more powerful
[22:58:34] <Tom_itx> alot of feature enhancements etc
[22:58:41] <rue_house> this is the 3rd prograrm I'v seen like this that does these things
[22:58:50] <rue_house> each with a completely different ui
[22:58:53] <Tom_itx> for instance grid array will follow any path not just X Y
[22:58:58] <rue_house> so no user can just go from one to the other
[22:59:25] <Tom_itx> and it will do varying grid offsets etc in both axis
[22:59:50] <rue_house> to learn to use any one of these programs means investing so many resources that youd be hard pressed to move to any other software
[23:00:02] <Tom_itx> so you lay out one hole and use array to position all of them
[23:00:05] <Tom_itx> very efficient
[23:00:17] <Tom_itx> not really
[23:00:32] <Tom_itx> i have a good feel for both solidworks and catia now
[23:00:37] <Tom_itx> as well as the others i've used
[23:01:24] <Tom_itx> i've done all the course problems in both
[23:01:29] <Tom_itx> you can see them in that dir
[23:01:30] <rue_house> your not forking out 75k for the software tho
[23:01:34] <Tom_itx> no
[23:01:43] <Tom_itx> but it is a high demand job
[23:01:52] <rue_house> or anything for training
[23:01:58] <Tom_itx> well paid if you know it inside and out
[23:03:03] <katsmeow-afk> will they demand you show the sheepskin for taking the training courses?
[23:03:14] <rue_house> I see a fence with 'greener grass' on the other side.....
[23:03:38] <Tom_itx> it's something i've always been interested in
[23:03:53] <Tom_itx> and the opportunity was there so i took it
[23:04:02] <rue_house> indeed
[23:04:06] * katsmeow-afk is tehrefor happy for Tom
[23:04:36] <rue_house> I still dont get how people keep making the similar programs that do the same thing with the same rendering engine
[23:04:56] <rue_house> I dont think you can even get autocad anymore
[23:05:04] <rue_house> nobody understands 2d
[23:05:19] <rue_house> cant fathom what its usefull for
[23:05:46] <Tom_itx> all the shops around here use it
[23:06:44] <rue_house> must be a wealthy area if there can be industry overlap with people using software that costs 75k
[23:06:48] <Tom_itx> when i finish the 2 semesters i enrolled for i'll have enough to work in most of them
[23:06:56] <rue_house> but iirc you work in a place where everyone makes plane parts
[23:07:08] <Tom_itx> i could go on and get surface machining which would cover the other 20%
[23:07:13] <rue_house> oh, I thought you were just tagging along with the kids course
[23:07:14] <Tom_itx> yes
[23:07:24] <Tom_itx> i am more or less
[23:07:31] <Tom_itx> i did enroll though
[23:07:53] <Tom_itx> the instructor asked if i wanted to teach his next class though
[23:08:07] <rue_house> heh
[23:08:44] <Tom_itx> the beginning level is rather simple once you get past that first 'language' curve we all know about
[23:09:14] <rue_house> chinese or hundu?
[23:09:19] <Tom_itx> it's quite facinating to see how easy it can draw some things
[23:09:32] <Tom_itx> and how easy it is to mod them
[23:09:56] <rue_house> that stuff was easy in povrayu
[23:09:58] <rue_house> that stuff was easy in povray
[23:11:25] <Tom_itx> i could show you a pdf that has all the problems in it
[23:12:42] <rue_house> not worth the time to me
[23:12:44] <rue_house> :(
[23:13:02] <rue_house> I'm having a time based life-crisis :)
[23:13:03] <Tom_itx> you might be motivated to draw some
[23:13:07] <rue_house> no
[23:13:15] <Tom_itx> i explained that to you earlier
[23:13:20] <Tom_itx> about your time crisis
[23:13:27] <rue_house> I'm trying ot make sure anything I do funnels somehow towards my goal of becomming a robot
[23:14:08] <rue_house> I need to do everything I know how to do now and have faith that the thigns I dont know how to do will fill in before or when i get to them
[23:14:24] <rue_house> I need to get better at small signal systems
[23:15:15] <katsmeow-afk> what about my time crisis?
[23:16:05] <Tom_itx> i'm sure i'll have unfinished business when i leave this life
[23:18:28] <rue_house> kat, I'd love to help you, but I cant
[23:18:52] <katsmeow-afk> :-/
[23:22:07] <rue_house> I'll throw you what I can
[23:22:29] <rue_house> (brain-scanner.png and the like)
[23:25:18] <katsmeow-afk> how can a hdd have 60,800 hrs on it, that's 7 yrs being on 24-365
[23:25:57] <katsmeow-afk> oh, nm, this puter has higher hrs than that
[23:27:25] <rue_house> Power_On_Hours 41361
[23:28:12] <rue_house> Power_On_Hours 41355
[23:28:21] <rue_house> hmmm, yea, my raid drives are pretty new
[23:28:42] <rue_house> Power_On_Hours 27054
[23:29:08] <rue_house> the OS drive is used, I think someone turned their computer off every time
[23:29:14] <katsmeow-afk> i think this one is toast, it's showing damaged blocks in HDD Tune
[23:29:46] <katsmeow-afk> 0.5% damaged so far
[23:29:47] <rue_house> if the smart data shows ANY reallocated sectors, get the drive out of service immediatly
[23:30:07] <rue_house> I dont know why microsoft has no smart monitor in that toolbar
[23:30:22] <katsmeow-afk> which number is too high?
[23:30:27] <rue_house> 1
[23:30:34] <katsmeow-afk> i mean the column
[23:30:36] <rue_house> Reallocated_Sector_Ct
[23:30:47] <katsmeow-afk> current, worst, threshold, or data ?
[23:30:55] <rue_house> raw-value
[23:31:00] <katsmeow-afk> status says ok
[23:31:02] <rue_house> might be called data
[23:31:07] <rue_house> status means nothing
[23:31:22] <katsmeow-afk> thee's no column labled "raw value"
[23:31:25] <rue_house> not worst or threshold
[23:31:34] <rue_house> what are the values?
[23:31:44] <rue_house> ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
[23:31:44] <rue_house> 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
[23:31:44] <rue_house> 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 168 161 021 Pre-fail Always - 2600
[23:31:44] <rue_house> 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 620
[23:31:44] <rue_house> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0
[23:31:46] <rue_house> 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
[23:31:48] <rue_house> 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 063 063 000 Old_age Always - 27054
[23:31:53] <rue_house> that is the table I see from my program
[23:31:54] <katsmeow-afk> it has avery high "hardware ecc recovered"
[23:32:00] <rue_house> dosnt' matter
[23:32:19] <katsmeow-afk> yeas it matters, if it's making that much error, it matters to me
[23:32:29] <rue_house> but the drive will be fine
[23:32:41] <rue_house> they are fine till the reallocated sector count hits 1
[23:32:44] <katsmeow-afk> 59,300 errors
[23:33:00] <katsmeow-afk> reallocated sector 288
[23:33:19] <rue_house> dead drive for sure
[23:33:42] <katsmeow-afk> that means i am out of drives again :-/
[23:33:54] <rue_house> sorry.
[23:34:13] <rue_house> I suggest powering down the forementioned drive untill you have soemthing to put the data on
[23:34:25] <rue_house> and then copying it all off immediatly
[23:34:35] <rue_house> if its worth anything
[23:35:53] <katsmeow-afk> nothing on it
[23:35:57] <katsmeow-afk> ebay special
[23:36:00] <rue_house> ah
[23:36:20] <katsmeow-afk> i warm them up and test them before use just for this reason
[23:39:38] <rue_house> I hope the paperweight didn't cost much
[23:40:23] <katsmeow-afk> 5 for $90, i think
[23:40:54] <katsmeow-afk> i can use it for taking up space making a card cage for the good ones
[23:43:30] * katsmeow-afk sighs, going thru the bad pile, another one has a good number of reallocated sectors
[23:43:42] <katsmeow-afk> or bad number, being it isn't 0
[23:44:42] <rue_house> I have to say that the table ^^^ they gave me wasn't easy to understand
[23:44:47] <katsmeow-afk> holey mackrel, tis pter's raw read error rate is 111,605,499
[23:44:49] <rue_house> raw_value is the actual value
[23:45:18] <rue_house> I'v seen drive that had scarry numbers in the other fields, but the drives were fine
[23:45:26] <katsmeow-afk> and it just went up 20
[23:46:32] <katsmeow-afk> 111,605,601 now
[23:46:38] <katsmeow-afk> 111,605,607 now
[23:46:42] <katsmeow-afk> 111,605,613 now
[23:46:53] <katsmeow-afk> i think it goes up when i hit the enter button
[23:48:10] <katsmeow-afk> cusswords, need a boot drive cloner
