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[00:04:07] <rue_house> bah, I have harddrives with more hours than that.
[00:06:24] * katsmeow just noticed one of the younger hdd on this puter has files saved in 2004
[00:08:47] <rue_house> I installed the OS on this machine 1999/2000
[00:10:11] <rue_house> katsmeow, your the only other person in the world who can keep an OS going as long as that!
[00:11:34] <katsmeow> :-)
[00:12:41] <Jymmm> CP/M !
[00:12:44] <katsmeow> i'd still have a working win95B install, but winxp did a search and destroy of all win95b upgrades across my lan
[00:12:45] * Jymmm snickers *
[00:13:05] <katsmeow> my dos5 floppies are toast
[00:13:10] <rue_house> really?
[00:13:15] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:13:17] <rue_house> I have dos 6 floppy images
[00:13:44] <rue_house> I'v never hears xp doign that one before
[00:13:44] <Jymmm> I might have some DOS images ready
[00:14:03] <katsmeow> how about a usb version that can install (and be bootable) to a hdd?
[00:14:18] <rue_house> I have dos 6.22, but not in origional install disks
[00:14:25] <Jymmm> DOS never supported USB (per se)
[00:14:35] <Jymmm> I have 6.21
[00:14:36] <rue_house> dont talk so fast
[00:14:44] <katsmeow> it did, it reverted 95 back to the oem install , deleted all FAT32 drivers for instance
[00:14:52] <rue_house> lots of the win95 drivers could be loded in config.sys
[00:15:18] <rue_house> I had to do that with the video card I had
[00:15:28] <rue_house> cause I was running windows 3.1
[00:15:29] <katsmeow> i still have the drives, one may boot as dos 7.xx
[00:16:13] <Jymmm> How about FreeDOS ?
[00:16:47] <Jymmm> katsmeow: got a mac by chance?
[00:17:48] <katsmeow> got a old mac something upstairs, inhereited it, never used that one, did do custom plugins for a apple ~1977-78
[00:19:34] <rue_house> cool, I can use ls -lurt to see the last access time of files, I could trim all the dead files from things
[00:19:40] <Jymmm> Ok, I have a W98ERD FDD image (still looking)
[00:20:19] <katsmeow> delete all your win98 , any OS that has 3 versions of FORMAT, and all of them buggy and incompatable, deservs death
[00:21:05] <rue_house> lots of 2011, I wonder if my last backup was 2011
[00:21:43] <Jymmm> katsmeow: Do you want/need dos? If not, I'll stop looking.
[00:21:50] <rue_house> I been running the same install of linux for 16 years, why would I reinstall an OS?
[00:21:56] <katsmeow> i am not looking for dos
[00:21:59] <Jymmm> k
[00:22:12] <rue_house> zippo:/files/iso/dos6.2# ls -l
[00:22:12] <rue_house> total 4332
[00:22:12] <rue_house> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Nov 14 2010 one.iso
[00:22:12] <rue_house> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Nov 14 2010 three.iso
[00:22:12] <rue_house> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Nov 14 2010 two.iso
[00:22:20] <rue_house> if you ever ar!
[00:22:26] <rue_house> apparently its 6.2!?
[00:22:35] <katsmeow> http://DesignerThinking.com/images/C64-Vic20/IMG_3200m.jpg
[00:22:47] <katsmeow> http://DesignerThinking.com/images/C64-Vic20/IMG_3415m.jpg
[00:22:52] <rue_house> nice keybaords you have there! :)
[00:23:00] <Jymmm> katsmeow: You're running a Vic20?!
[00:23:05] <rue_house> how did you convert that?
[00:23:12] <katsmeow> :-)
[00:23:31] <rue_house> composite -> vga?
[00:23:37] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:23:49] * rue_house hands kat an "Ultimate Ebayer" hat
[00:24:32] <Jymmm> For your drooling pleasure... QEMM, DESQ, ProCommPlus ;)
[00:24:39] * katsmeow adjusts it
[00:24:51] <katsmeow> i still have a working QEMM
[00:24:57] <rue_house> I went from apple IIe to 386
[00:25:05] <katsmeow> and Xtree Gold
[00:25:10] <rue_house> I touched commodore but never did anything with it
[00:25:22] <rue_house> ah yes, love xtree gold
[00:25:27] <Jymmm> yeah
[00:25:44] <Jymmm> DirectAccess5
[00:25:48] <rue_house> my dos machiens harddrive is in the freezer just now
[00:25:58] <Jymmm> rue_house: file recovery huh?
[00:26:01] <rue_house> waiting for a opportunity to give up its data just one last time
[00:26:13] <katsmeow> launched in dos, use Turbo Pascal to make win3.1 gui
[00:26:19] <rue_house> I have a backup, but its not a full, complete one
[00:26:32] <rue_house> oh DRA!
[00:26:36] <rue_house> yea, thats what I used
[00:26:42] <rue_house> with the menus and the submenus
[00:26:46] <Jymmm> yep
[00:26:48] <rue_house> I didn't recognize the name
[00:27:27] <Jymmm> https://winworldpc.com/res/img/screenshots/5x-5023365c563a4d7a386d897e65722345-Direct%20Access%205%20-%20Menu.png
[00:27:29] <rue_house> if it weren't past bedtime I might recover it just to play tetris again
[00:27:50] <rue_house> I used white on blue theme
[00:28:14] <rue_house> geez, not even any submenus
[00:28:20] <Jymmm> I stil have it and the original manual (as well as the backdoor)
[00:28:22] <rue_house> oh I guess utilities was one
[00:28:27] <katsmeow> i still used dos consoles, got 1 working now, and i set them to colors to denote different tasks
[00:29:08] <rue_house> a toast, to the days before bloatware, spyware and adware!
[00:29:17] <Jymmm> lol
[00:29:22] <rue_house> the days before EVERY OS SUCKED
[00:29:27] <katsmeow> settor.bat sets up vars and recolors the console to dark blue on white
[00:29:47] <rue_house> I recall playing with the dos colours too, I think I liked blue on black
[00:29:59] <katsmeow> hard to see blue on black!
[00:30:11] <rue_house> I made a utility to dial the repeat delay all the way down and the repeat rate all the way up
[00:30:34] <katsmeow> for speedier errors?
[00:30:51] <rue_house> na, I typed fast
[00:31:03] <rue_house> thats where I learned my patience lasts about 100ms
[00:31:13] <katsmeow> there's a dos emu for the raspi, but it lacks redirection and piping
[00:31:40] <rue_house> I'll share that program too if you want
[00:31:53] <rue_house> sometime
[00:31:59] <katsmeow> nah, i know how to change dos settings :-)
[00:32:28] <Jymmm> I'm debting getting rid of this
http://imgur.com/qHCLmzq
[00:32:58] <rue_house> you cant, there pre-icons
[00:33:08] <rue_house> that is, the 3.5 became the icon
[00:33:38] <Jymmm> Well, all of these actually (they are complete, and some even came with VERTICAL function key overlays)
http://imgur.com/SU1A73Z
[00:34:33] <rue_house> oh, no, I'm on imugr again!
[00:35:32] <katsmeow> you put an obsolete sketch there, yeas
[00:35:45] <Jymmm> I already tossed the perfectly working USB Zip drive in the pile
[00:36:23] <Jymmm> and 20 ZIP100 disks too
[00:37:41] <katsmeow> i have 2 ZIP100 drives
[00:37:51] <katsmeow> pile?
[00:38:04] <Jymmm> The get rid of pile
[00:38:12] <katsmeow> ever hear of ebay?
[00:38:34] <Jymmm> They are going for $15 + shipping
[00:39:06] <Jymmm> and lots of "not sold"
[00:39:19] <katsmeow> yeas, you gotta keep relisting
[00:40:52] <Jymmm> Not worth the listing fee(s), rather just donate to local thrift shop or barter on craigslist
[00:42:14] <katsmeow> they run free listing promos occasionally
[00:42:17] <Jymmm> And this is mostly why...
http://imgur.com/qVtRlbk
[00:43:05] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:43:33] <Jymmm> I standardized on uSD a long time ago
[00:45:01] <Jymmm> My NAS has booted off a uSD for 8+ years
[00:48:30] <katsmeow> why is it after midnite again?
[00:49:07] <katsmeow> http://www.questionablecontent.net/
[01:24:25] <Jymmm> WHOA... Cisco owns ClamAV ?!
http://www.clamav.net/about
[01:48:05] <rue_house> Jymmm, do you raid them?
[02:41:16] <Jymmm> rue_house: Well, ZFS which is a basically RAID (redundancy)
[02:41:50] <Jymmm> rue_house: FreeNAS (older variant)
[16:57:48] * katsmeow leaves a url on the channel table for zhanx : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM2hShzsbswKVSJP3se3X2Q
[16:58:06] <katsmeow> if anyone sees him, point it out to him?
[17:00:46] <rue_house> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83kvytc-HBk
[17:00:49] <rue_house> local co
[17:02:34] <rue_house> they are a nightmarec to wire tho
[17:08:57] <rue_house> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_7BY-Fs544
[17:09:02] <rue_house> thast might be a more interesting video
[18:49:49] <Jymmm> I liked the hatchet work
[19:48:05] * ^kat^ drags in a very large resistor and drops it under the table
[20:38:47] * rue_house looks for special features on the resisot
[20:38:55] * rue_house is ill
[20:39:18] <rue_house> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ABB-industrial-robot-model-6-DOF-ROBOT-arm-6-axis-robot-arm-6-DOF-mechanical-arm/32583830898.html?spm=2114.40010708.4.21.9r61hT
[20:39:26] <rue_house> I cant work out what they are pivoting the forearm on
[20:40:25] <rue_house> all the snot, geez this totally reminds me why I want to be a machine
[20:40:50] <^kat^> buy 24-packs of tp
[20:41:15] <^kat^> you already built that, years ago
[20:41:29] <rue_house> thye did theirs a bit different
[20:41:32] <rue_house> mine are only 5 axis
[20:41:36] <^kat^> if you had put it on the rooba back then, you cold call it to come to you
[20:42:11] <^kat^> it loks ike yur's, all the axies in the right places
[20:42:27] <^kat^> can it handle a car battery?
[20:46:28] <^kat^> interesting, their url format is lke ebay's now
[20:48:15] <rue_house> unlike ebay, ali express' system is under continious improvement without being continiously broken
[20:48:58] <^kat^> how do you pay for items?
[20:49:14] <^kat^> and isn't all of china closed for the next 3 weeks?
[20:49:39] * rue_house shrugs
[21:29:56] <Jymmm> rue_house:
http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1rpfELXXXXXaCXpXXq6xXFXXXF/MAGIC-Q-ABB-industrial-robot-model-6-DOF-ROBOT-arm-6-axis-robot-arm-6-DOF.jpg
[21:31:45] <rue_house> yea. whats the rotary axis for the forearm
[21:31:50] <rue_house> cant tell what the bearing is
[21:32:25] <^kat^> why does the bearing number matter, yo can turn space for any bearing on your lathe
[21:32:25] <Jymmm> to twist it
[21:32:47] <rue_house> I thik they are just hanging off a large shoaft
[21:33:11] <Jymmm> rue_house:
http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1K8PyLXXXXXcAXpXXq6xXFXXX5/MAGIC-Q-ABB-industrial-robot-model-6-DOF-ROBOT-arm-6-axis-robot-arm-6-DOF.jpg
[21:34:22] <rue_house> dosn't show it, its on the other end
[21:34:36] <Jymmm> rue_house: watch the video
[21:59:58] <rue_house> I did, I can see that the pipe stops at the back, and the wires co eout, but I cant see what suports it
[22:00:02] <^kat^> you know, with two 19v laptop brick psu, and p- and n- channel 44v super-low Ron mosfet in H-bridge, you could get the output power of a totempole bipolar amp with +/- 40v rails
[22:42:12] <zhanx> Evening
[22:42:21] <^kat^> where'd i put that url............
[22:42:27] <^kat^> it was on the table......
[22:42:33] <^kat^> guys, where is it?
[22:42:36] <zhanx> I see kat made it through the tornadoes
[22:42:48] <^kat^> nope, i made them go around me :-P
[22:42:59] <zhanx> Even better
[22:43:16] <^kat^> check your memoserv, zhanx
[22:43:17] <zhanx> I got my passport today!
[22:43:27] <^kat^> congrats, where you going?
[22:45:41] <zhanx> Awesome video I have it book marked
[22:45:49] <zhanx> Canada?
[22:45:59] <^kat^> should be many videos
[22:46:20] <zhanx> No not really, want to take the wife to Australia
[22:46:59] <^kat^> want to bring her back too?
[22:47:31] <zhanx> Yes (someone has to pickup after me)
[22:47:54] <^kat^> robots
[22:48:00] <zhanx> So I told me boss today in start my new job Monday
[22:48:15] <^kat^> that was nice of you
[22:50:17] <^kat^> ??
[22:51:23] <^kat^> you quitted :-(
[22:51:26] <zhanx> Computer died
[22:51:31] <^kat^> o
[22:51:44] <^kat^> [22:26] *** zhanx (~boston45@196.sub-97-32-129.myvzw.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[22:51:50] <zhanx> I need a new one
[22:52:26] <^kat^> old ones are way cheaper
[22:53:30] <zhanx> True but mine is older
[22:54:27] <^kat^> except for the laptop, all mine are circa 2000 ... 1998 - 2002 -ish
[22:55:01] <zhanx> I need a good laptop but older one
[22:55:57] <Jymmm> "ABACUS' FOR SALE! GET YOUR ABACUS' RIGHT HERE!!!"
[22:56:20] <^kat^> ABACUS' ?
[22:56:28] <zhanx> Why buy when I can make one
[22:56:44] <Jymmm> make a laptop?
[22:57:13] <zhanx> No, just want it to work and not mess with it
[22:58:36] <^kat^> Most navy vessels are designed for at least 71.9
[22:58:36] <^kat^> kPa (1500 psf), and some unique parts of a structure,
[22:58:36] <^kat^> such as the sponsons on an aircraft carrier, are designed
[22:58:36] <^kat^> for as high as 359 kPa (7,500 psf).
[23:09:52] <^kat^> The equivalent lifetime sea
[23:09:52] <^kat^> time for the vessel is 960 weeks or 581 million seconds.
[23:13:19] * rue_house tries to understand what he's reading
[23:20:05] <zhanx> I am honestly lost
[23:20:22] <rue_house> as opposed to dishonestly
[23:20:23] <rue_house> ?
[23:20:32] <zhanx> I guess
[23:22:15] <Moon_> so ip.php or .html??
[23:22:54] <zhanx> Php is better right?
[23:23:04] <Moon_> :P
[23:23:12] <rue_house> htm
[23:23:17] <Moon_> k
[23:23:22] <zhanx> I don't code Web sfuff
[23:23:23] <Moon_> got er running ?
[23:23:28] <rue_house> hold up
[23:24:00] <rue_house> processing
[23:24:21] <zhanx> Java ? Why?
[23:25:18] <Moon_> no objects for me thanks zhanx
[23:26:05] <zhanx> Processing is java rue
[23:26:12] <Moon_> ahhh
[23:26:28] <Moon_> no doubt
[23:26:33] <rue_house> have to modify firewall
[23:27:18] <rue_house> hmm
[23:27:49] <rue_house> its got 3 interfaces and it looks like it got choosy about which one its connecting with
[23:28:42] <rue_house> interesting...
[23:29:20] <Moon_> ??
[23:29:22] <Moon_> __
[23:29:48] <rue_house> I think its a firewall issue
[23:31:04] <^kat^> gnites
[23:31:41] <rue_house> ok what port does zxtris use?
[23:32:23] <Moon_> 1 sec
[23:33:03] <Moon_> 19503
[23:36:27] <rue_house> bingo
[23:36:30] <rue_house> try it
[23:37:17] <rue_house> xtris ip-address
[23:38:26] <rue_house> Moon_,
[23:42:15] <Moon_> oh hay
[23:42:17] <Moon_> ok
[23:48:20] <rue_house> bad news, the movue is over
[23:48:58] <rue_house> you know space bar is instant drop right?
[23:49:08] <Moon_> o koole
[23:49:33] <Moon_> like how im going to drop you in this game BOYEEEE
[23:49:53] <rue_house> tell ya what, I'll see if I can find another movie
[23:50:17] <rue_house> your alignment needs more work mate
[23:50:30] <Moon_> WATTTTT
[23:54:05] <rue_house> geez, dont go crazy
[23:59:56] <rue_house> keep gaps as low as you can
