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[00:57:42] <zhanx> Night rue
[01:21:39] <rue_house> night
[21:07:16] <Moon_> when you google for some old software you remember and you get NO results :(
[21:07:33] <rue_house> hmm
[21:07:55] <rue_house> Moon_, dennis obrian just called
[21:07:59] <rue_house> well paula, anyhow
[21:08:20] <rue_house> I told them your working on brining it back and they asked if they can just bring the table in
[21:08:25] <rue_house> but I dont have space
[21:08:29] <rue_house> they are back from vaccation
[21:13:30] <Moon_> ahh
[21:14:09] <Moon_> i'll tell them they can bring it to my house when i get back from school (maybee)
[21:14:35] <Moon_> dude it rained so much my light fixture is dripping :P
[21:17:21] <rue_house> why is it always the light fixture
[21:17:42] <rue_house> you shoudl tuck some plastic between the roovs
[21:18:31] <Moon_> yeah probs
[21:18:34] <Moon_> "P
[21:18:37] <Moon_> :P
[22:59:24] * katsmeow deploys a claw and stabs rue with it <DING> you have email
[23:06:05] <katsmeow> me chases cheese puffs across the channel
[23:06:10] <katsmeow> me does
[23:12:23] <rue_shop3> trying to chase down a good transistor for my smps
[23:12:33] <rue_shop3> I was reading the SOA wrong, didn't realize that was Von
[23:12:37] <katsmeow> i sent you email with freaking pics
[23:12:43] <rue_shop3> ok
[23:12:48] <rue_shop3> I'm not at the desk right now
[23:13:04] <rue_shop3> I'm gonna make you digits this weekend!
[23:13:09] <rue_shop3> its on THE LIST!
[23:13:11] <katsmeow> uh huh
[23:14:21] <rue_shop3> D1392
[23:14:55] <rue_shop3> arg
[23:15:00] <katsmeow> please read the email i spent time on for you
[23:15:02] <rue_shop3> going for 7A
[23:15:07] <rue_shop3> now?
[23:15:30] <rue_shop3> but I'm in the shop..., I dont have shoes on, the ground betweent eh shop and house is wet and cold
[23:15:34] <katsmeow> or in 321 days and one hour, your call
[23:15:40] <rue_shop3> ok ok
[23:15:54] <katsmeow> i cannot copy/paste a pic to irc
[23:15:59] <katsmeow> i can upload it
[23:16:07] <katsmeow> make a decision for me
[23:17:43] <rue_house> :) there isn't supposed to be 20V across the transistors, its switchmode
[23:18:09] <katsmeow> you said 20v , i drew and spec'd for what you said
[23:18:13] <rue_house> the supply they are switching is 20V
[23:18:38] <rue_house> I was misunderstanding the SOA of the transistors
[23:18:52] <rue_house> I thought that was the supply votlage, not eh drop across the transistor
[23:19:20] <katsmeow> o
[23:19:29] <rue_house> I realized I cant do linear mode, too much power dissipation for the size of supply I'm making
[23:19:46] <katsmeow> you can hybrid
[23:19:54] <rue_house> I was thinking about it
[23:20:03] <rue_house> have the smps run a few votls high
[23:20:08] <katsmeow> yeas
[23:20:33] <rue_house> I wont give up on the idea, but I'm going for simple on this time 'round
[23:20:47] <katsmeow> linear is dead simple
[23:20:47] * rue_house waits for his feet to warm back up
[23:20:57] <rue_house> yea, but I only have an 8"^2 heatsink
[23:21:10] <rue_house> I recon its good for about 10W or so
[23:21:13] <rue_house> at about 60c
[23:21:17] <katsmeow> o
[23:21:30] <katsmeow> well, basicaly, i wasted my time today
[23:22:06] <katsmeow> see what i said about the latches? i checked tho, 1400 chips for $6 plus $ s&h, they are tssop tho
[23:22:16] <katsmeow> i dunno if he still has them or not
[23:22:30] <katsmeow> he kept lowering the price, no indication anyone bought them
[23:23:56] * rue_shop3 huddles around his tea
[23:24:42] <rue_shop3> with the low canadian dollar, I'm trying not to buy things I dont almost explicitly need
[23:24:52] <rue_shop3> were less than 0.70/1usd right now
[23:25:22] <katsmeow> yeow
[23:25:41] <katsmeow> did the usa do that to you by denying the oil pipeline?
[23:25:43] <rue_shop3> I'm circling on buying 40 74HC4060 for $15usd right now
[23:25:56] <katsmeow> you need 40?
[23:25:59] <rue_shop3> no, just oil isn't worth anything
[23:26:08] <rue_shop3> no, I want a lifetime supply for making smps
[23:26:14] <katsmeow> ah, yeas, well, the usa did do that
[23:26:34] <rue_shop3> its supid, we dont own our oil anyhow
[23:26:38] <katsmeow> it won't last long, what they are fnding isn't lasting, and il co are going bankrupt because of the low prices
[23:26:43] <rue_shop3> its all owned by US companies
[23:26:56] <katsmeow> china owns only the oil sands?
[23:27:04] <rue_shop3> no they are US owned
[23:27:35] <rue_shop3> well, at the electrical shop we are seeing LOTS of chinese comming over and buying places, paying contractors in cash, (like $10000)
[23:27:47] <katsmeow> china bought some oil sands are entirely a few yrs back
[23:28:04] <rue_shop3> point is, its not canadian owned anyhow
[23:28:13] <rue_shop3> all we get are taxes from them mining it
[23:28:20] <rue_shop3> and environmental disasters