#garfield | Logs for 2016-01-13

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[00:00:59] <rue_shop3> oops, J is +-5%
[00:01:22] <rue_shop3> so
[00:01:25] <rue_shop3> 2A
[00:01:26] <rue_shop3> 104J
[00:01:35] <rue_shop3> is a .1uF, 5%
[00:01:38] <rue_shop3> thats rated for...
[00:02:06] <rue_shop3> oh, 2A is 100V
[00:02:48] <katsmeow> 690v ??
[00:03:12] <katsmeow> pretty sure J is the type
[00:03:21] <katsmeow> metalised poly
[00:03:32] <rue_shop3> yes, codes are:
[00:03:36] <rue_shop3> 1A 10V
[00:03:39] <rue_shop3> 1E 25V
[00:03:42] <rue_shop3> 1H 50V
[00:03:46] <rue_shop3> 2A 100V
[00:03:58] <rue_shop3> I think they are going roman...
[00:04:21] <rue_shop3> tolerance is
[00:04:27] <rue_shop3> F +-1pf
[00:04:30] <rue_shop3> K 10%
[00:04:33] <rue_shop3> M 20%
[00:04:38] <rue_shop3> and J 5%
[00:05:30] <katsmeow> All information is subject to change without notice, is not roses blue and strawberries red?
[00:06:03] <rue_shop3> I'm guessing 2E is 250V
[00:06:38] <katsmeow> o, i thought you had the chart
[00:06:43] <rue_shop3> how do we know the matrix' red is not what blue is in the real world?
[00:06:56] <rue_shop3> I'm eating datasheets like crazy collecting
[00:08:55] <rue_shop3> I'm also guessing tol I would be 2.5%
[00:09:17] <katsmeow> 0J = 6.3V 1A = 10V 1C = 16V
[00:09:17] <katsmeow> 1E = 25V 1H = 50V 1J = 63V
[00:09:17] <katsmeow> 2A=100V 2E = 250V 2H=500V
[00:09:17] <katsmeow> 3A=1000V 3D=2000V 3F=3000V
[00:09:42] <rue_shop3> oh sweet
[00:09:48] <katsmeow> K = ±10% M = ±20% Z =+80-20%
[00:11:24] <rue_shop3> so 2F 300V
[00:12:41] <rue_shop3> I wonder what multiplers B, G, I are
[00:16:58] <rue_shop3> ok, hmm I'm using the cap as a DC offset of up to 34V, should I go 50V or 100V
[00:17:12] <rue_shop3> there is such an age difference between the two, they are the same size
[00:17:31] <rue_shop3> thanks kat
[00:17:58] <katsmeow> go min 30% higher WVDC than you actually have in the circit, 50% if you can
[00:19:07] <katsmeow> so if i wanted a cap across rectified 25vac, i'd use a 50v cap
[00:19:21] <katsmeow> rect 25vac = 35vdc
[00:20:14] <katsmeow> if it's cheap and you want it to last longer than you do, use 2x the numbers
[00:20:23] <katsmeow> use 100v cap on the 35v line
[00:20:32] <katsmeow> or 70v
[00:20:35] <katsmeow> 63v
[00:22:10] <katsmeow> 630V (2J), 450 (2W), 250V (2E),
[00:23:03] <katsmeow> 2a = 100v 2e = 250v 2h = 500v 3a = 1kv 3d = 2kv 3f = 3kv
[00:23:35] <rue_shop3> hahahhahah I know why the math is out!!!!! I know!!! I know!!!!
[00:23:45] <rue_shop3> these are NOT 470K resistors, they are 270K!!!!!
[00:23:48] <katsmeow> who let the mah out?
[00:24:03] <katsmeow> yell vs red?
[00:24:18] <rue_shop3> yea
[00:25:08] <rue_shop3> kat, did you notice A = 1.0 B=? C=1.6 D = 2.0 E = 2.5 F = 3.0 G = ? H = 5.0 J = 6.3
[00:25:35] <rue_shop3> so I'm wondering B G, and I
[00:25:53] <katsmeow> 1C=16V 1E=25V
[00:25:53] <katsmeow> 1H=50V 1J=63V
[00:25:55] <rue_shop3> I'm wondering if it follows resistors
[00:26:11] <katsmeow> 1 = 0 to 100
[00:26:17] <rue_shop3> yea, so 0J is 6.3 1J is 63, and 2J is 630
[00:26:19] <katsmeow> 2 = 1000 to 3000
[00:26:28] <katsmeow> 3 = 3000 to 4000
[00:26:44] <katsmeow> each letter is 5
[00:27:13] <katsmeow> a = a = 5 c = 15 e = 25 etc
[00:27:30] <rue_shop3> I think B would be 1.2
[00:27:36] <katsmeow> 5 or 6, but you go 30% over anyhow
[00:27:39] <rue_shop3> G might be 3.3
[00:27:56] <rue_shop3> I might be 5.4
[00:28:04] <rue_shop3> or 5.6
[00:28:08] <rue_shop3> 5.6
[00:28:31] <katsmeow> c = 15
[00:28:36] <katsmeow> e = 25
[00:29:06] <katsmeow> c is the 3rd letter, e is the 5th letter , ergo the multiplier is 5
[00:30:19] <rue_shop3> this means the current source DOES work properly!
[00:30:44] <rue_shop3> katsmeow, I just dont know what the table looks like
[00:30:53] <katsmeow> 2A=100V 2E=250V
[00:30:54] <katsmeow> 2H=500V
[00:30:58] <rue_shop3> it alsmost looksl ike the resistor values
[00:30:59] <rue_shop3> yea
[00:31:16] <rue_shop3> so A is 1.0 2 is x10^2
[00:31:18] <katsmeow> 630V (2J), 450 (2W), 250V (2E)
[00:31:27] <katsmeow> yeas
[00:31:38] <rue_shop3> so whats a 1B
[00:31:40] <rue_shop3> :)
[00:31:45] <rue_shop3> 12V?
[00:31:55] <katsmeow> 10v
[00:32:05] <rue_shop3> no, that would be a 1A
[00:32:16] * rue_shop3 looks at kat sideways
[00:32:21] <katsmeow> [23:44] <katsmeow> 0J = 6.3V 1A = 10V 1C = 16V
[00:32:26] <rue_shop3> yea
[00:32:34] <rue_shop3> so 1B would be... 12V?
[00:32:56] <katsmeow> so 0 = 1 to 10
[00:33:03] <katsmeow> 1 = 10 to 100
[00:33:08] <katsmeow> 2 = 100 - 200
[00:33:23] <katsmeow> the 0 scale is rather silly
[00:33:35] <rue_shop3> 10^0
[00:34:40] <rue_shop3> oh, B is 12.5
[00:34:51] <katsmeow> that's silly
[00:35:10] <rue_shop3> your tellin me!
[00:35:22] <katsmeow> people will be putting 12.5v caps n car abatteries and then blowing them up when rechargind to 14 or 16v
[00:35:39] * katsmeow has been massaging her paws
[00:36:45] <katsmeow> FOUND IT
[00:36:59] <katsmeow> http://www.jbcapacitors.com/PartNumber.pdf
[00:37:33] * rue_shop3 waits for it to open
[00:37:44] <katsmeow> take a sedative
[00:37:53] <katsmeow> don't get too excited
[00:37:56] <katsmeow> calm down
[00:38:04] <katsmeow> have a glass of wine
[00:38:04] <rue_shop3> haha they reverse it for AC ratings
[00:38:24] <katsmeow> it's rebmuNtraP.pdf?
[00:40:12] * katsmeow saves it under CNC - Cap Number Codes
[00:40:51] <rue_shop3> :( it got past bedtime again
[01:05:37] <katsmeow> "Roy Batty", the white-haired android that died and that released the dove... According to the movie Blade Runner, he was born January 8th, 2016
[02:26:51] <rue_bed> heh
[09:53:30] <Jymmm> rue_bed: I found your power supply https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wV16ehI6Tx8#t=13
[18:20:10] <^kat^> whoo, i got video of Star Trek's Scotty as engineer on a ww2 sub
[18:20:26] <^kat^> it's in black and white, not color
[18:21:51] <^kat^> maybe he is captain
[19:36:29] <rue_shop3> :)
[19:38:47] <rue_shop3> Jymmm, you dont like my faceplate theme!?
[20:01:54] <rue_shop3> kat kat katKat kAt KAT kat kaT
[20:02:00] <rue_shop3> kat kat kat kat kat kat kAT
[20:02:04] <rue_shop3> KAT KAT KAT
[20:02:14] * rue_shop3 pokes kat
[20:02:19] <rue_shop3> kat?
[20:02:20] <rue_shop3> kat!
[20:02:22] <rue_shop3> kat kat kat
[20:02:35] <rue_shop3> kataktatatakatkatkaktkatkatkaktkat
[20:34:55] <^kat^-afk> rue?
[20:40:41] <rue_shop3> I forgot
[20:41:09] <rue_shop3> it occurs to me that a good layout for a power supply is to put the power conveter between the input and output lugs
[20:41:14] <rue_shop3> oh kat kat kat kat kat
[20:41:21] <^kat^-afk> ?
[20:41:25] <rue_shop3> Kat! kAt kkaT
[20:41:52] <^kat^-afk> <blink>
[20:46:54] <^kat^-afk> well, i arrived, i spoke, i answered, no one responded, i go away again
[20:58:17] <Jymmm> rue_shop3: I just found what inspired is all =)
[21:31:50] <rue_shop3> kat? you here??
[21:31:54] <rue_shop3> (again)?
[21:32:08] <rue_shop3> arg, missed her again
[21:33:26] <rue_shop3> ok, the last thing to do is solder togethor the output filter
[22:36:12] <zhanx> Evening
[22:36:24] <rue_shop3> hah, the first filter of the power supply has a resonance of 222Khz, and the supply is operating at 227.5
[22:37:06] <rue_shop3> I just made a resonance mode converter
[22:37:31] <zhanx> I have no clue
[22:37:45] <rue_shop3> the output filter has a pole at 222.222Khz
[22:37:50] <zhanx> So I made a computer for my car
[22:37:53] <rue_shop3> the output switches at 227.5Khz
[22:37:54] <zhanx> It failed
[22:38:01] <rue_shop3> failed?
[22:38:26] <zhanx> Stock alarm system was not accounted for
[22:43:36] <rue_shop3> hmm
[22:44:20] <zhanx> It locked out my ignition coil
[22:44:49] <zhanx> After research I found out why it's 4 wires
[22:45:35] <zhanx> No scope so I can't monitor and duplicate it
[22:47:43] <rue_house> new ignition coil time
[22:48:19] <zhanx> Nope amazon credit bypass module