#garfield | Logs for 2016-01-10

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[00:03:38] <katsmeow> so if you first vac up some gunpowder, and then a lit ciggy, can you return the vac remains as defective?
[00:26:50] <katsmeow> just heard from the guy who wrote a dos emulator for the raspi :
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> Hi!
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> Yes, my emulators use 4DOS.COM as the command processor, and it has
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> support for running .BAT batch files as well as the slightly more
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> efficient .BTM (batch-to-memory) batch files. Not all command line
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> features are supported in my emulators, though (I/O redirection or piping
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> does not work, for example).
[00:26:54] <katsmeow> But the short answer is yes. :)
[00:26:55] <katsmeow> Patrick
[00:27:55] <katsmeow> now if you can get the same io working as you had when using ados mobo in the mower bot, you can run the same dos code on the raspi to mow the lawn
[00:29:50] <katsmeow> gnites
[21:16:51] <rue_shop2> katsmeow-afk, hi
[21:16:58] <rue_shop2> unused cmos inputs, tie high or low?
[21:17:17] <rue_shop2> 1k to low?
[21:17:44] <Tom_itx> how many heatplants have you built?
[21:21:51] <katsmeow-afk> tie low, usually
[21:39:17] <Tom_itx> rue_shop2 someone is interested in your heatplant
[21:39:42] <Tom_itx> i invited him so you could tell him about it
[21:41:38] * katsmeow-afk can't hear anythng
[21:42:15] <Tom_itx> kat, yeah.. doc said i can only hear half what i should
[21:42:46] <katsmeow-afk> but we are right here, i can't here Jymmm or any of the rues
[21:43:13] <Tom_itx> well rue is probably working on something
[21:43:34] <Tom_itx> Jymmm is the really shy type... be nice to him
[21:43:35] <Tom_itx> :D
[21:44:01] * katsmeow-afk waves hi at Jymmm
[21:45:27] <Tom_itx> kat, show Jymmm your boat progress
[21:45:44] <Tom_itx> i'm not entirely sure where you're at with it myself
[21:46:08] <katsmeow-afk> it looks like a pipe of parts atm
[21:46:32] <katsmeow-afk> go the paint on the last of the barrel pods yesterday
[21:46:44] <katsmeow-afk> the wet paint has been freezing soldid instead of drying
[21:46:51] <Tom_itx> your site down? i tried to access design... .com
[21:46:55] <Tom_itx> got a 404
[21:47:22] <katsmeow-afk> designerthinking.com , i deleted all of it
[21:47:33] <Tom_itx> oh
[21:47:38] <Tom_itx> too bad
[22:45:48] <rue_shop2> Tom_itx, well, about 6, most of them were scrap
[22:45:53] <rue_shop2> kat, thanks
[22:46:21] <rue_shop2> I'v got the circuit board for the power supply going togethor, its working!
[22:46:32] <katsmeow-afk> kool
[22:46:46] <katsmeow-afk> post a REAL schematic to me when yo can
[22:46:48] <rue_shop2> you deleted the whole site!? :(
[22:46:56] <katsmeow-afk> yeas, a cople yrs ao
[22:47:02] <rue_shop2> well, I just started modifying it as I was assembling it
[22:47:11] <rue_shop2> I forgot to add the disable pin
[22:47:18] <rue_shop2> so I'm 'just poking that in'
[22:47:29] <rue_shop2> and a circuit to scale the input control voltage
[22:47:39] <rue_shop2> ..around an arbitrary voltage...
[22:48:03] <Tom_itx> rue_shop2, do you have a diagram for your latest one?
[22:48:22] <katsmeow-afk> as long as i am useless, as long as peole baby talk me, or quit wheni post an url, or don't answer me, etc, i am not going to be helpful by having a 2 GB website
[22:49:10] <rue_shop2> Jymmm, the heatplant is designed to run the fire as hot as you can and extract all the heat from the exhaust
[22:49:19] <rue_shop2> the idea is to keep as much heat in the firebox as you can
[22:49:30] <rue_shop2> carefully matched thermal impedences
[22:49:32] <katsmeow-afk> downdraft
[22:49:47] <rue_shop2> your not useless kat, you just feel like it a lot
[22:49:57] <katsmeow-afk> is someone using me?
[22:49:58] <rue_shop2> sorry I'v had my head over the soldering iron all day
[22:50:07] <rue_shop2> you help me all the time
[22:50:14] <katsmeow-afk> you mostly ignore me
[22:50:17] <rue_shop2> Tom_itx, I'll try to find and post it again
[22:50:23] <rue_shop2> I'm not at the computer kat
[22:50:50] <katsmeow-afk> i mean when i tell you how to fix smething, it takes you monhs to get around to trying wheat i suggest
[22:50:52] <rue_shop2> I'm soldering and helping visitors with ... you would be surprised the projects people bring me to do for them while they are here
[22:51:01] <rue_shop2> katsmeow-afk, thats my life
[22:51:11] <katsmeow-afk> my life is being useless
[22:51:13] <rue_shop2> it took me 19 years to make a clock, give me a break already :)
[22:51:44] <rue_shop2> I'll be lucky if I finish the 12' mecha in time to die
[22:51:59] <katsmeow-afk> took me years to build most of a 3000 sq ft house, now i go live ona 200 sq ft boat in the ocean somewhere, and burn the house down
[22:53:44] <rue_shop2> kat, there is nothing I can say to improve how you are or feel. I expect even saying this will upset you, and its not that I'm trying, I have a desire to see you happy
[22:55:04] <rue_shop3> http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/heatplant/
[22:55:36] <rue_shop3> those are various images, the small one, make of tin, puts out enough heat to heat my whole house, more than my natural gas furnace
[22:56:31] <rue_shop3> need to make a new flapper, that thing really helped
[22:57:26] <rue_shop3> 5 years ago it looked a lot newer than it does now
[22:58:01] <rue_shop3> I cant find a pic of the new design in that folder, I'll tryi to remmber to post it sometime
[22:58:23] <katsmeow-afk> $10 says he isn't here anyhow
[23:00:03] <katsmeow-afk> i win
[23:11:46] <rue_shop3> #%@#$%@#$%@#$%^ the pin numbers on this LM317 are 1,3,2
[23:11:49] <rue_shop3> bastards
[23:13:06] <katsmeow-afk> <blink>
[23:13:37] <katsmeow-afk> oh, and on 64kx1 drams, pin 8 is vcc and pin 16 is gnd
[23:28:19] <rue_shop3> ickgh
[23:28:25] <rue_shop3> thats a gotcha
[23:28:41] <rue_shop3> "defective chips, tops popped off"
[23:29:12] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[23:29:27] <rue_house> kat
[23:29:30] <rue_house> kat kat kat kat kat
[23:29:32] <rue_house> maybe you have!
[23:29:36] <rue_house> ok
[23:29:56] <rue_house> do you have any of those static ram chips that are 1x~ with seperate input and output data lines?
[23:30:27] <katsmeow-afk> i don't remember if they are x1 or x4, or where they are
[23:31:44] <katsmeow-afk> have some sngle-port 64kx1 and 64kx4 statics
[23:32:07] <katsmeow-afk> most ram is fast enough, you can wrap it in a layer to make it look multi-ported
[23:33:48] <katsmeow-afk> MT5C6401 - 64K x 1 SRAM
[23:34:21] <katsmeow-afk> mine are 15ns
[23:35:16] <katsmeow-afk> it DOES have separate D and Q pins
[23:35:29] <rue_shop3> wanted some to play with using them as delay lines
[23:35:37] <rue_shop3> ah
[23:35:40] <rue_shop3> OH
[23:35:44] <rue_shop3> ok wait
[23:35:56] <rue_shop3> static 64x1 with D and Q?!
[23:36:01] <katsmeow-afk> [23:05] <rue_house> do you have any of those static ram chips that are 1x~ with seperate input and output data lines?
[23:36:02] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[23:36:07] <rue_shop3> SWEEET
[23:36:09] <rue_shop3> how many?
[23:36:28] <katsmeow-afk> 59
[23:36:34] <rue_shop3> 8-|
[23:36:36] <rue_shop3> wow
[23:36:47] <rue_shop3> thats more than a tube
[23:36:48] <katsmeow-afk> i dunno where they are atm
[23:36:50] <katsmeow-afk> yeas
[23:36:55] <rue_shop3> can I buy them from ya?
[23:37:12] <katsmeow-afk> Micron obsolted them in 1994
[23:37:21] <rue_shop3> ...can I buy them?
[23:37:26] <rue_shop3> or some
[23:37:28] <katsmeow-afk> i'm pretty sure you cannot buy them from anyone else
[23:37:33] <rue_shop3> .. ya
[23:37:38] <rue_shop3> so?
[23:37:51] <rue_shop3> somewhere between 4 and 59 of them?
[23:38:22] <rue_shop3> I can give you the money as paypal so you can spend it on ebay without ever having 'earned' it
[23:38:25] <katsmeow-afk> prolly
[23:38:42] <rue_shop3> well, pls work it out and msg me!
[23:38:48] <rue_shop3> back to sodering!
[23:38:49] <katsmeow-afk> heh, the usa gummit tracks all paypal traffic
[23:39:11] <katsmeow-afk> i don't remember how much i paid for them
[23:39:18] * rue_shop3 forgot to drink enough water and dehydrated himself again, has a bad headache
[23:39:39] <rue_shop3> how about I mail you US cash?
[23:39:54] <katsmeow-afk> or send me a huge clock
[23:40:06] <katsmeow-afk> or i'll build my own <shrug>
[23:40:32] * rue_shop3 grumbles about the 4093 and its ass-backwards gates
[23:40:48] <katsmeow-afk> gdff
[23:41:31] <rue_shop3> ok, right hand gates are backwards...
[23:42:02] <rue_shop3> clock parts kit?
[23:42:21] <rue_shop3> I'm sure you wont want it to take me 19 years
[23:42:23] <katsmeow-afk> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=MT5C6401
[23:43:50] <katsmeow-afk> whay do you want 1-bit? trying to delay pwm ?
[23:44:25] <rue_shop3> I'v wanted to play with a 1x with seperate i and o for quite a while, all the chips I got were muxed data io
[23:44:51] <rue_shop3> right two gates are ass-backwards, biab
[23:45:07] <katsmeow-afk> to get 256 bit resolution of a 60khz pwm, you need to sample at 15Mhz, which is a lot above your 239Khz pwm technology
[23:45:39] <katsmeow-afk> you can simulate it with a ff and a few and/nand gate, pretty sure
[23:50:32] <katsmeow-afk> http://media.techeblog.com/images/wheelchair_4.jpg#star%20wars%20%20%20wheelchair%20450x338