#garfield | Logs for 2016-01-06

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[00:04:56] <rue_shop3> ...
[19:11:53] <katsmeow> <cough>
[21:15:24] <rue_bed> hi kat
[21:17:04] <katsmeow> hi rue
[21:23:42] <rue_bed> how goes
[21:25:08] <katsmeow> slow
[21:25:22] <katsmeow> i sent you email, i thought you'd remember more of it than i do
[21:29:22] <rue_bed> i havnt checked yet
[21:29:53] <katsmeow> oh
[21:30:03] * katsmeow tries to delete it
[21:30:27] <rue_bed> a few days ago I worked out how to make a motorized rice dispencer
[21:30:53] <katsmeow> plaster stirrer in a bucket of rice?
[21:31:04] <katsmeow> propane cannon?
[21:31:11] <rue_bed> na, flat spoked wheel
[21:31:31] <rue_bed> turns, uses the pileup property of the rice to block itself
[21:31:45] <katsmeow> oh
[21:32:12] <rue_bed> it would meter the dispence rate
[21:33:00] <rue_bed> its that much closer to a supper machine
[21:33:21] <rue_bed> I need a good design for metered dispencery of water
[21:33:22] <katsmeow> why not just dip a cup into the rice?
[21:33:35] <katsmeow> again, fill a cup
[21:33:51] <rue_bed> cause if I dont have to do it, suppoer will be easier to cook
[21:34:57] <rue_bed> I'v decided to try to automate the repeditive things in my life
[21:35:15] <rue_bed> then I can fill the spaces with other things that aren't repeditive
[21:35:16] <katsmeow> so dipping a cup or filling a cup is out of the question?
[21:35:36] <katsmeow> repetative <<== no 'd'
[21:35:51] <rue_bed> it would be eaiser to have a 'make rice' button that dosn't have to be held down for more than 200ms
[21:36:18] <rue_bed> tho 200ms would be a borring wait
[21:37:00] <katsmeow> 1/5 of a second?
[21:37:34] <rue_house> yes, I find 1/4 agravating
[21:38:00] <rue_house> I just lose patience after 480ms
[21:38:14] <katsmeow> how about instead you come in the door and while shedding winter garb you just say "dinner , rice, wine, 20 minutes, kitchen table" . not necessarily int hat order
[21:38:50] <rue_house> well, yea, less I'v need a kitchen table, but yes
[21:39:22] <katsmeow> well, you never told any of the robots how to bring dinner to the shop, have you?
[21:39:33] <rue_house> I'm going to paste you a story I wrote, from a dream I had, some time ago
[21:39:45] <Tom_itx> you should 'think' rice and have it make it
[21:39:45] * katsmeow looks pasted
[21:41:07] <rue_house> were you charged $50 chipping?
[21:42:09] <rue_house> good scores kat
[21:42:28] <rue_house> is the cat6 the copper clad aluninum stuff tho?
[21:42:41] <rue_house> I'v heard about it, not seen it yet
[21:42:46] <katsmeow> copper, afaik
[21:42:49] <rue_house> they call it cca
[21:42:50] <rue_house> iirc
[21:43:08] <katsmeow> $50 for shipping what? did i not itemise everything?
[21:43:36] <rue_house> on that ebay listing, i see $50 shipping
[21:43:39] <katsmeow> it was paid out as pure Cu and i paid fir it as pure Cu, so atm, i assme it's pure Cu
[21:44:00] <katsmeow> url?
[21:45:22] <rue_house> http://www.cetecglobal.com/technologies/cabling/cca.htm
[21:45:39] <katsmeow> i didn't buy from them
[21:46:23] <rue_house> its the type of wire
[21:46:36] <rue_house> 'CCA' = copper clad aluminum
[21:47:26] <katsmeow> i know, what i don't know is why we have been discussing it for 5 minutes now
[21:47:38] <rue_house> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/305M-RJ45-CAT5e-Network-Ethernet-ADSL-Modem-Router-Roll-Reel-UTP-CCA-Cable-Lead-/311424681822?hash=item48825b875e:g:WkMAAOSwI-BWPKBi
[21:47:49] <rue_house> just sayin, look out for it!
[21:48:32] <rue_house> it sounds like its been distredited as fast as its idea was come up with
[21:48:49] <katsmeow> so was Al house wring
[21:48:57] <rue_house> :)
[21:49:15] <katsmeow> afaik, this is all stamped IEC and some of it is rated plenum cable
[21:49:19] <rue_house> we use Al for big stuff, stoves, big furnaces, all done carefully
[21:49:29] <rue_house> cool
[21:59:28] <katsmeow> http://i.imgur.com/u7ygG6Tb.jpg
[22:01:17] <rue_house> hahha
[22:01:19] <rue_house> nice
[22:03:34] <katsmeow> "i should call someone to find out, since i am the cops"
[22:10:21] <rue_house> in canada they now have scanners that will automatically look up cars cops pass etc and tell them if they need to stop the car
[22:11:14] <katsmeow> have them in usa too, dunno how many use it
[22:11:55] <katsmeow> occasionally i see them under bridges, and streetlites, and such, but there's been some court fights to have them removed
[22:40:44] <Tom_itx> does mirc have an option to select a different brouser when clicking a link?
[22:41:04] <katsmeow> http://imgur.com/gallery/rnIxUrI
[22:41:56] <Tom_itx> ppl really do that?
[22:42:18] <katsmeow> i dunno, it's 58 megabytes, i have not seen it yet, i have been waiting an hour
[22:42:32] <Tom_itx> a vaccuum explodes
[22:44:13] <katsmeow> i put a running vac in a washing machine full of water, does that count?
[22:44:43] <Tom_itx> water shop vac?
[22:45:06] <katsmeow> no, regular floor vac, somewhat disassembled to see it's insides better
[22:45:21] <katsmeow> it was an experiment, the washer was grounded
[22:46:05] <katsmeow> the sparks at the brushes were better defined under water than in air, and it pumped a hell of a lot of water in a hurry without getting warm (i used cold water)
[22:46:17] <Tom_itx> you didn't get electrocuted
[22:46:30] <katsmeow> that is true, sorry
[22:46:39] <Tom_itx> that's a good thing
[22:46:58] <katsmeow> i put the vac in the washing machine tub, not me
[22:47:12] <Tom_itx> a running vac
[22:47:22] <Tom_itx> you must have been in contact with it?
[22:48:50] <katsmeow> not within the tub
[22:49:05] <katsmeow> not within the water
[22:49:20] <katsmeow> and not to my bare skin
[22:49:24] <Tom_itx> good
[22:49:33] * Tom_itx calls it a night
[22:49:49] <katsmeow> damn :-/
[22:50:17] <Tom_itx> ?
[22:50:32] <Tom_itx> my words carry little merit anymore
[22:50:35] <Tom_itx> gnite
[22:50:48] <katsmeow> i still give a rats ass and wanna know how your MRI results read
[22:50:57] <Tom_itx> mri was ok
[22:51:00] <Tom_itx> normal limits
[22:51:06] <katsmeow> good
[22:51:22] <katsmeow> gnite
[22:51:25] <Tom_itx> didn't fix a gd thing except made the doc richer
[22:51:31] <katsmeow> oh
[22:51:40] <katsmeow> glad you got insurance?
[22:52:56] <Tom_itx> hope so
[22:53:25] <Tom_itx> i already paid for one once
[22:53:49] <Tom_itx> just had an earthquake as i type
[22:53:55] <Tom_itx> whole house shook
[22:54:11] <katsmeow> i needed scan on my sinuses, they ran the machine twice without moving me, billed for two scans
[22:54:18] <katsmeow> i paid nothing and was still pissed
[22:54:34] <katsmeow> fracking quake?
[22:54:46] <Tom_itx> was a bit unsettling
[22:55:09] * katsmeow can understand that
[22:55:22] <Tom_itx> i don't see it on usgs yet
[22:55:37] <katsmeow> they tend to not replort under 2
[22:55:50] <Tom_itx> it was at least 4
[22:56:03] <Tom_itx> given where the center was
[22:56:06] <katsmeow> you are calibrated for earthquakes?!
[22:56:09] <Tom_itx> if i'm right
[22:56:25] <Tom_itx> it was one of the longest i've felt yet
[22:57:52] <katsmeow> AARRGG , cannot load it
[22:58:26] <katsmeow> A new study by the U.S Geological Survey released today presents evidence that, in addition to the recent induced earthquakes, most of the larger earthquakes in Oklahoma in the past century may likely have also been induced by industrial activities.
[22:59:34] <Tom_itx> their site will show it tomorrow probably
[22:59:36] <katsmeow> 4 south of you yesterfay
[23:00:12] <Tom_itx> yeah they're getting more common but usually we don't feel em here like this
[23:02:32] <Tom_itx> gnite
[23:03:05] <katsmeow> 3.2 magnitude earthquake
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> Today about 2 hours ago at 02:15
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> January 07, 2016 UTC
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> Location:
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> Epicenter at 35.675, -97.41
[23:03:06] <katsmeow> 6.2 km from Edmond (4.2 miles)
[23:03:07] <katsmeow> Depth: 5 km
[23:03:56] <Tom_itx> at 10:30 cst?
[23:04:13] <Tom_itx> i saw that one i think
[23:04:19] <Tom_itx> this one isn't posted yet
[23:04:26] <katsmeow> http://earthquaketrack.com/recent
[23:04:51] <Tom_itx> well it was right at 10:30
[23:04:56] <Tom_itx> the news channel freaked out
[23:05:31] <Tom_itx> possibly 2 back to back
[23:06:07] <katsmeow> hasn't hit the "official" sites yet
[23:06:36] <katsmeow> the one hours ago outside OKC is too far from you anyhow
[23:06:49] <Tom_itx> no it's not
[23:06:51] <Tom_itx> we feel those
[23:07:01] <katsmeow> oh
[23:07:12] <Tom_itx> that's likely where it was
[23:07:39] <Tom_itx> the ground is packed hard is why they travel so far
[23:08:41] <katsmeow> nothing on Reuters news or google news
[23:08:59] <katsmeow> Alabama Chief Justice Tries To Ban Same-Sex Marriage In His State
[23:08:59] <katsmeow> Huffington Post - ?2 hours ago?
[23:09:06] <katsmeow> same ole shit here
[23:10:39] <katsmeow> chances are you'll be fine for several 1000 more years there
[23:13:40] <Tom_itx> 4.3 confirmed 19 mi N of Fairview Ok
[23:14:14] <katsmeow> url ?
[23:14:27] <Tom_itx> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
[23:14:28] <katsmeow> that's a whopper
[23:14:36] <Tom_itx> the red dot is new
[23:14:58] <Tom_itx> 4.8 just after that
[23:15:50] <katsmeow> i dunno if it's me or them, but the page never loads ont he first try
[23:16:24] <Tom_itx> 2 within 30 sec
[23:16:44] <katsmeow> 200 milesf rom you and still feelable
[23:16:46] <Tom_itx> 4:27:28 and 4:28:00
[23:16:54] <katsmeow> i see itnow
[23:17:06] <Tom_itx> 24km SSE of Alva Ok was the other one
[23:17:15] * katsmeow nods
[23:17:24] <katsmeow> you still sleepy?
[23:17:35] <Tom_itx> was nearly in bed yes
[23:17:50] <katsmeow> i'd be waiting on the next one
[23:19:36] <katsmeow> OK has been a hive of quakes recently
[23:19:37] <Tom_itx> another 3.4 just now
[23:21:02] <katsmeow> they are not feeling them in central Tx
[23:21:47] <Tom_itx> they are closer to me than Tx
[23:22:01] * katsmeow nods
[23:23:11] <Tom_itx> lorez is in okc
[23:23:39] <katsmeow> and anotehr 3.4
[23:23:55] <Tom_itx> ^^ yes
[23:26:23] <katsmeow> is he even online?
[23:26:51] <katsmeow> [23:03] -NickServ- Last seen : now
[23:26:55] * katsmeow doesn't see him
[23:27:23] <rue_shop3> you guys had a quake too?
[23:27:26] <Tom_itx> in robotics
[23:27:30] <Tom_itx> 4
[23:27:32] <Tom_itx> of them
[23:27:37] <rue_shop3> katsmeow, my story wasn't too gory for you was it?
[23:27:51] <Tom_itx> starting at 4:27:28 utc
[23:28:00] <katsmeow> half way done, the Tom bested you by having actual earthquakes
[23:28:16] <rue_shop3> oh, just?
[23:28:22] <Tom_itx> as we speak
[23:28:29] <rue_shop3> we had ours a few days ago
[23:28:31] <katsmeow> 4 in 10 minutes
[23:28:39] <Tom_itx> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{%22feed%22%3A%221day_m25%22%2C%22search%22%3Anull%2C%22listFormat%22%3A%22default%22%2C%22sort%22%3A%22newest%22%2C%22basemap%22%3A%22grayscale%22%2C%22autoUpdate%22%3Atrue%2C%22restrictListToMap%22%3Atrue%2C%22timeZone%22%3A%22utc%22%2C%22mapposition%22%3A[[36.3693276982337%2C-98.92570495605469]%2C[36.64142686181442%2C-98.48625183105469]]%2C%22overlays%22%3A{%22plates%22%3Atrue}%2C%22viewModes%22%3A{%2
[23:28:42] <Tom_itx> woops
[23:28:53] * rue_shop3 hands Tom_itx a napkin
[23:29:11] <katsmeow> golly
[23:29:18] <katsmeow> tinyurl.com
[23:29:39] <Tom_itx> too late
[23:29:55] <Tom_itx> ok i'm off to sleep
[23:30:05] <katsmeow> has a length of 530 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 26 characters:
[23:30:05] <katsmeow> http://tinyurl.com/h35cdpq
[23:30:34] <katsmeow> gnites, Tom
[23:30:59] <rue_shop3> I'm glad I dont havea big heavy loaded up bookshelf above my bed anymore
[23:32:48] <katsmeow> you have very detailed intense dreams rue,, are you sure you are still human?
[23:32:59] <rue_shop3> no
[23:33:54] <katsmeow> "214697290405 bytes in neural file" ? that sounds suspicious
[23:34:48] <rue_shop3> well you dont want it just rounded off to megs
[23:36:15] <katsmeow> it's just right on 2E37.643513027487076712320447170731
[23:36:59] <rue_shop3> your sure?
[23:36:59] <katsmeow> might be 214697290404
[23:37:02] <katsmeow> yeas
[23:37:14] <rue_shop3> I think your a byte off
[23:37:22] <rue_shop3> that byte could be a critical link
[23:37:26] <rue_shop3> but probably not
[23:38:09] <katsmeow> not even a byte, 2^37.643513027487076712320447170731 = 214697290404.99999999999999999999
[23:38:44] <rue_shop3> so, thats a bit thats almost high but not quite?
[23:38:54] <katsmeow> without runningit on the C64, where it would take all nite, but be done in base 10, i cannot get any more accurate
[23:39:02] <katsmeow> yeas, sorry
[23:39:34] <katsmeow> y can do the math in ,, whatever that math site is you use
[23:40:10] <katsmeow> to be honest, this email is a deja vu
[23:40:32] <rue_shop3> :( maybe I sent to you already
[23:40:43] <rue_shop3> or it was what happened to you in a previous life
[23:40:47] <rue_shop3> in the future
[23:40:50] <katsmeow> you did, over a yr ago, i think, in which case it was not a dream you just had
[23:40:58] <rue_shop3> cause time is all hoggeldy-joggeldy
[23:41:26] <rue_shop3> rerun, sorry
[23:41:35] <katsmeow> BBC has a special on time, what it is and why it's not as we think it is
[23:42:25] <katsmeow> "what reality is" BBC 2015
[23:42:38] <katsmeow> "The Illusion of Time"
[23:43:09] <katsmeow> and some stuff on a drive that s disconnected atm
[23:44:17] <rue_shop3> "you could be a reincarnation of a you that hasn't existed yet" :)
[23:44:47] <katsmeow> i have not been programed for that
[23:45:02] <rue_shop3> ok, is the clock of a 7474 falling or rising edge triggered?
[23:45:48] <rue_shop3> .. rising...
[23:46:00] <rue_shop3> and I inverted it
[23:46:55] <katsmeow> 7474 is like a 4013 only faster and opposite S and R levels
[23:47:24] <katsmeow> occasionally i would pick which one based on that
[23:48:13] <rue_shop3> I am having to draw out a timing chart of the switching power supply to try to work out the glitches I'm having at the 0% and 100% edges of the pwm
[23:49:06] <katsmeow> told ya to manually insert the max and min timing , and allow only variances betwen those
[23:49:14] <rue_shop3> tho my paper has no propigation delay
[23:49:27] <rue_shop3> I think I have to add some micro delays
[23:49:31] <katsmeow> try larger paper?
[23:49:37] <rue_shop3> heh
[23:49:45] <rue_shop3> I dont know what my propigation delays are
[23:50:11] <katsmeow> sea moss paper may be slower
[23:52:02] <rue_shop3> https://cdn.hackaday.io/images/6668671447317126790.jpg
[23:52:13] <rue_shop3> thats the cirucit giving me grief
[23:52:32] <rue_shop3> https://hackaday.io/project/296/logs?page=3
[23:52:45] <rue_shop3> on the breadboard it was fine
[23:55:28] <katsmeow> we went over this months ago too
[23:55:37] <rue_shop3> prolly
[23:55:48] <rue_shop3> it was testing fine at the time
[23:56:17] <katsmeow> FF still has not loaded it
[23:56:28] <rue_shop3> :/
[23:56:43] <katsmeow> ah, you cleaned up the schematic
[23:57:22] <rue_shop3> I think there is a timing difference or glitches between the osc ramp and the osc comparitor output
[23:57:38] <rue_shop3> it worked fine on a breadboard
[23:58:11] <rue_shop3> I think the parts are so fast and sensitive they are picking up noise on some threasholds
[23:58:57] <katsmeow> the top opamp (-) is sitting at a fairly high impedance
[23:59:02] <katsmeow> like an antenna
[23:59:18] <katsmeow> just scope the clock of the 74, is it glitchy?
[23:59:24] <rue_shop3> 100k?
[23:59:52] <rue_shop3> after the '14 it should be clean...
[23:59:54] * rue_shop3 checks