#garfield Logs

Dec 16 2015

00:04 katsmeow "a child, a child, shivers in the cold, let us bring him silver and gold, let us bring him silver and gold!" <<== what about a blanket and hot soup??
00:11 rue_house indeed
00:31 rue_house sorry kat, I'mreally preoccupied
00:31 katsmeow is that legal in Canadia?
00:41 katsmeow directions on poptarts, so you know how to use them safely
14:36 katsmeow <peek>
16:34 Tom_itx <poke>
18:47 ^kat^ 3500 PCS HARRIS V24ZA50X1347 ; 14v varistor (comes on at 18v, drifts up to 36 Vpeak) ; current bid $4 31 minutes remaining
18:47 ^kat^ s&h in usa : $30
18:48 ^kat^ current bid $4
18:49 ^kat^ the box says qty 350 ; i cannot believe he is selling 10 boxes of this item in one auction ....... for $4
19:26 ^kat^-afk woohoo, got .005 off the inside of a tubing, so the 1.125 OD bearing now fits almost properly
19:44 ^kat^-afk zhanx wants to make a rail gun, i need to throw this url at him : http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=SMH450V&_ssn=umo88&item=361449470207&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XSMH450Vn.TRS0&_nkw=SMH450Vn&_sacat=0
21:30 rue_house hi
21:31 Tom_itx lo
21:32 rue_house dryer still broken
21:32 rue_house schematic shows 1 of 3 switches
21:32 rue_house 1 limits and a motor run
21:32 Tom_itx no thermal switch?
21:48 rue_house yea thermallimit
21:49 rue_house tothers are fine
21:49 at^-afk made a thing to hold round things in the clampy square t
21:58 ^kat^-afk http://DesignerThinki awe crap, i can't show you, there's some red stuff in it
22:00 ^kat^-afk can't show Yamahawithdumpbed.jpg either, Yamaha painted some of the oem trike red
22:01 rue_house ^kat^-afk, do you have that even in your logs?
22:01 rue_house I dont recally the date, 1999 I think
22:01 rue_house I dont think its in my logs
22:03 ^kat^-afk i don't feel like looking for it
22:05 ^kat^-afk is it safe now to show pics then?
22:06 rue_house I'm sure I was not critisizing anyone about the colour of their project
22:07 rue_house my logs seem to go back to 2005
22:07 rue_house I'm not sure, I think that was too late
22:08 ^kat^-afk the red cord in the flex joints looked pink, and that wasn't manly enough for some to look at , or it was feminine, or something
22:08 rue_house I'm pretty sure I was not critisizing it
22:09 ^kat^-afk [01:31] * katsmeow-afk stares at the pink wire
22:10 ^kat^-afk [01:32] <rue_house> its got a lot in common with your string, including the fact its really red
22:11 ^kat^-afk 01/25/11
22:11 rue_house cd acid2001?
22:11 rue_house er, 2001?
22:12 ^kat^-afk [02:19] <rue_mohr> rodt, for your information there is a sensitive topic between kat and rif about pink versus red string, its best avoided, primarilly cause its so stupid an issue
22:12 ^kat^-afk 02:14:44am 08/05/07
22:12 rue_house or 2011?
22:12 rue_house whats the date format?
22:13 rue_house is 01/25/11 2011 or 2001?
22:13 ^kat^-afk 08/05/07 = Aug 5, 2007
22:14 rue_house wtf, the 5th is missing
22:14 rue_house #robotics-2007-08-01.html #robotics-2007-08-02.html #robotics-2007-08-03.html
22:15 rue_house missing to the 12th
22:16 ^kat^-afk http://DesignerThinking.com/JL/DSCF6884m.jpg
22:16 ^kat^-afk http://DesignerThinking.com/JL/Yamahawithdumpbed.jpg
22:17 rue_house nice, bearing holder?
22:17 ^kat^-afk yeas, to use the RED tool to remove .005 from it's insides, it's ID is out of spec
22:17 rue_house so, do you think it was rifraf making the deal about the string colour?
22:18 ^kat^-afk removing .008 would be perfect, but the bearing isn't locked up if i remove only .005
22:18 ^kat^-afk several people, you included, iirc
22:18 ^kat^-afk and Yamaha put that red paint on the thing
22:18 rue_house can you use a cylinder hone to open it up?
22:18 ^kat^-afk no
22:19 ^kat^-afk not coarse enough and the stones are too long
22:19 ^kat^-afk the ring there is only 1/2 ... 5/8 long
22:19 rue_house well I dont recall and i resent the accusation that I was part of a gang attack on you regarding the string colour on your cnc! and I always have and I cant damn well prove it
22:19 ^kat^-afk i forget
22:20 rue_house do you ahve the log of the 7th?
22:20 ^kat^-afk to this day i have no way to drill pcb, no such couplings any more, and nothing is cnc'd
22:20 rue_house er 2007?
22:20 rue_house I dont know when this happened
22:20 ^kat^-afk i still have the box of new in baggies stepper motors
22:21 rue_house #robotics-2006-10-21.html:00:07:35: ...katsmeow-afk:ACTION is pondering getting a start on the pcb driller tonite 
22:21 rue_house #robotics-2006-10-21.html:00:13:33: .......katsmouw:i wonder how much i can overbuild a pcb driller 
22:22 rue_house #robotics-2006-10-22.html:03:14:43: .......katsmouw:start of a pcb driller : http://tiggr.whsites.net/temp_pics/IMG_0095.JPG
22:23 ^kat^-afk only IMG_0095.JPG i have now is for the pontoon boat
22:25 rue_house katsmeow-afk:aannnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyhow, i figured no matter how accurate i made the spindle holder, i'd lose my shirt on everything else anyhow, so best do best practices and be satisfied
22:25 rue_house i have 3 drill presses, and an unhappy with repeatability, runout, speed, on all 3, for pcb drilling
22:26 rue_house katsmeow-afk:if nothing else, the plotter xy to position the pcb, and the drillhead to do it's thing, driven by output from Eagle, sounds reasonable
22:26 rue_house atsmeow-afk:i saw ads for optical positioning of pcb for drilling, it recognised the pads witha camera and made a guess as to bit size
22:27 rue_house katsmouw:didn't know one had calved, and were burning off a field, the calf couldn't walk yet, and i had to run thru the fire to the calf, and run back thru it carrying the calf
22:27 at^-afk
22:27 rue_house .katsmouw:Tom, i calc'd the slop in spindle placement to 0.000900 inch, not counting the bearings or temperature
22:27 rue_house 04:46:43: .......katsmouw:or the table, of course
22:27 rue_house 04:46:53: .......katsmouw:or bit runout
22:27 rue_house 04:47:01: .......katsmouw:or dust in the collet
22:28 rue_house katsmouw:you know offhand the dia of a #79 bit?
22:28 ^kat^-afk so 2006 .. 2015 , 9 yrs wasted not doing any pcb
22:28 rue_house katsmouw:crm, i hope to, wanna try to
22:28 rue_house 04:54:32: .......katsmouw:the frame is designed to hold the autoloader inside it
22:28 rue_house 04:54:46: .......katsmouw:Riff, same as a human baby
22:29 rue_house rue_house:great, now there is COMPETITION for taking over the world with evil robots... is NOTHING easy?
22:29 ^kat^-afk it was long, no hinges, no bearings, but it moved enough to drill anyhow, on purpose
22:29 ^kat^-afk so i was gonna use the length for an autoloader, vac, and all the eectronics
22:30 rue_house katsmouw:afaik, his cnc driller works, but is all liteweight Al angle, and has placement errors
22:30 ^kat^-afk mine was steel tubing for the main frame
22:31 rue_house 18:22:33: ...katsmeow-afk:anyone with a spare $40usd needing a 30krpm 1/8-1/4 drill motor, 18vdc (easy to make variable speed), Home Depot has them in Ryobi flavor
22:31 rue_house 18:23:08: ...katsmeow-afk:collet, "spiral saw"
22:31 rue_house 18:23:30: ...katsmeow-afk:hi theatro, how are ye today?
22:31 rue_house 18:24:19: ...katsmeow-afk:one 1/8 collet, one 1/4 collet, and i figured how to remove the safety collar / steadyplate attachment
22:31 rue_house 18:25:29: ...katsmeow-afk:18vdc means easy rpm control by puter, and easy speed servoing, rampup/down, etc
22:31 rue_house 18:25:49: ...katsmeow-afk:wow, powerco is having fits today
22:31 rue_house 18:26:33: ...katsmeow-afk:pic at http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=060119801&g=115&r=2113
22:31 rue_house 18:26:57: ...katsmeow-afk:this is not a endorsement of that co, however
22:31 rue_house 18:28:04: ...katsmeow-afk:for $40, no battery or charger, of course
22:31 rue_house 18:28:34: ...katsmeow-afk:i figure on running off two 12v with a speed controller
22:32 rue_house it sounds like rifraf was having a cow. literraly :)
22:32 rue_house katsmouw:i'd like to get travel of 6 inch in a couple sec
22:32 rue_house katsmouw:deep, but will cut a 8x12 pcb, and has space for routing it's edges in one step, and autobit changer room
22:33 at^-afk mo
22:33 rue_house 6:41:09: .......katsmouw:changing it there will be apain, but quieter
22:33 rue_house 06:42:46: .......katsmouw:crm, the drill moves up/down
22:33 rue_house 6:43:23: .......katsmouw:i sorta joked about making it resonant up/down oscillating
22:33 rue_house katsmouw:tell em you can built a pcb driller for $40 that has runout of only 0.00045 inch ;-)
22:34 rue_house i used some 1/4 rod to clamp the Ryobi to my lil drill press, to turn the housing, to clean up the bandsaw cut, and the runout difference tween the two is staggering
22:34 e_house sends kat some cold pizz
22:35 rue_house you said you miss it
22:36 ^kat^-afk someone complained the pic of the joint was windoze format and their nix box would not play it
22:36 rue_house katsmeow:from the book "How To Run A Great Product Into Bankruptcy"
22:36 rue_house katsmeow:so,, my plan is to screw on a coupling, lay inside that a rubber washer over the bits of the heater pipe, then a washer, and then screw in a 1/2 inch nipple, onto which i'll atatch the line to the faucet
22:36 rue_house katsmeow:while out, i picked up more bolts to hold bearings for the driller's table
22:37 rue_house katsmeow:well, for historical purposes, they did the same before, but on garden sprayers. there was no seat to sit a washer on where the garden hose conencted, so you got very wet when using it
22:37 ^kat^-afk why not just send me the file?
22:37 rue_house crm:ahh.. is there any relationship between the tank and the pcb driller?
22:37 rue_house I'm trying to find it... I'm reminissing
22:37 rue_house katsmeow:i need square M&Ms, i am so tired of chasing these
22:38 ^kat^-afk you may notice i am nowhere near as helpful any more
22:38 rue_house none of us are
22:38 rue_house 04:39:17: ...katsmeow-afk:now i feel lonely
22:38 rue_house 04:39:57: ............crm:keep building your drill
22:38 rue_house 04:43:29: ...katsmeow-afk:crm, how will building the driller make me feel less lonely?
22:38 rue_house 04:44:39: ............crm:youll stop thinking about it
22:39 rue_house any48628371:first thing that gets drilled in this driller is a bunch of pcb for two TIP36C to go with a bunch of ~18vac@20a to make battery chargers
22:41 ^kat^-afk i tossed those heatsinks just the other day
22:41 rue_house katsmeow-afk:so i was just sitting in the shower, and my pants caught on fire
22:41 rue_house katsmeow-afk:Tom, removing the angle cross the front of the drilelr, and installing something different and more useable, etc
22:42 rue_house katsmeow-afk:wildmage, did you see http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller1.html ?
22:43 ^kat^-afk must we review everything leading up to the putdowns and destruction of the driller?
22:43 rue_house I find myself once again trying to prove to someone I didn't do something bad to them intentionally
22:44 rue_house katsmeow-afk:in the last pic, the bearings are pointed the right direction, but i bolted two together for the trial fit, just so they's stay upright betetr
22:52 rue_house katsmeow-afk: this table slide is so soooooOOOoooth , i think i could put a car on it and move it around with a pinky finger
22:52 ^kat^-afk it was too, tilting the frame just a lil and it would move
22:53 rue_house katsmeow-afk:speaking of desks,, i have a driller waiting on me to come back out and be impressed again
22:54 ^kat^-afk i could put my finger in the middle of the table, and it moved so smooth in any direction
22:56 rue_house fenn:butterflies are sorta inflatable
22:56 rue_house 11:03:37: ...katsmeow-afk:i won't ask, i won't ask, i won't ask
23:02 ^kat^-afk i seem to have deleted all files of the project
23:03 rue_house the word pink is not in the logs
23:03 rue_house katsmouw:i was gonna tell myself to camlock the pcb tot he front edge of the table, but it's possible i may not have an edge there
23:05 rue_house 16:04:19: .......katsmouw:another silly question
23:05 rue_house 16:04:37: .......katsmouw:i *can* put a 10x24 inch table on this thing, do i wanna?
23:08 ^kat^-afk if i had, i'd have just wasted more time
23:08 ^kat^-afk but with a 10x24, i cold slide it back and forth under the drillhead, with 10x10 pcbs on it
23:09 rue_house I made my tank able to take 8.5x11 and never made a board larger than about 4x4
23:10 ^kat^-afk zhanx http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=SMH450V&_ssn=umo88&item=361449470207
23:10 rue_house katsmeow-afk:i worked on the driller, gonna chage it yet again from the last 5 pics i posed before bed today
23:11 rue_house katsmeow-afk:i started on general repair of hospital systems, electrical/pneumatic/mechanical/fridgeration, then to bench work home hifi stuff, then video R&D, then pretty much an entire plant R&D of cpu controlled electrical/pneumatic stuff
23:11 rue_house 07:49:23: ...katsmeow-afk:i was frequently on loan to other depts
23:12 ^kat^-afk i guess zhanx is pissed at me
23:12 rue_house why?
23:13 ^kat^-afk because i said something potentially helpful, and he quit
23:13 rue_house maybe his internet went down
23:13 rue_house remember he was having problems?
23:13 rue_house katsmouw:i got the X table slides built, the Y are so smoth if i lift the front of the main frame 1/2 inch, the X slides to the back of the tubes
23:13 ^kat^-afk . 10:48:06pm 12/16/15 Wednesday zhanx Remote host closed the connection .
23:14 rue_house rue_house:dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic dont panic
23:16 rue_house katsmeow-afk:it moves!, it MOVES! <mad scientist cackle>
23:16 rue_house .katsmeow-afk:maybe 1/2 revolution, making my positioning 1/50 inch, which is prolly good enough IF ic an make the motor do 1/2 rev steps
23:18 rue_house katsmeow-afk:i added 5 more, then decided the table is done, no more pics after today to that url, goning to diller3.html for the next pics
23:19 rue_house katsmeow-afk:wild, i got the XY table frame built, and it's on ball bearings
23:20 rue_house everyopne totally had their head into their project
23:20 rue_house I was building the shop, you were making a pcb driller, and rifraf was making windmills
23:21 ^kat^-afk i didn't laugh at anyone
23:22 rue_house katsmouw:i need one to go get me some 5/16-18 threaded rod :-/
23:22 rue_house katsmouw:i want it more "elastic"
23:23 rue_house rue_house:I'm designing the shed that will be made out of the form wood from the shop that I will use to heat water to heat everythign
23:23 rue_house 18:47:32: ......rue_house:5'x5' shed
23:23 rue_house 18:47:42: ......rue_house:weld up a boiler
23:23 rue_house 18:47:53: ......rue_house:I can do superheating tubes and everything
23:24 rue_house katsmeow-afk:
23:24 e_house got (8ft 5/16-18 threaded rod)(200 5/16 nuts) (100 nylock 5/16 nuts)(200 1/4 nuts) (handfull of 5/16 and 1/4 couplings)(sample of 3/4 acme and a nut for it) fo
23:24 rue_house 20:48:02: ...katsmeow-afk:it's good to buy wholesale
23:32 rue_house somewhere around 2006-11-01.html you stopped working on it
23:33 ^kat^-afk that would have been after the avi i uploaded
23:33 ^kat^-afk it was the red string on the coupling
23:34 rue_house but nobody said anything
23:34 ^kat^-afk the avi was demaned "or it didn't happen", so i made the avi
23:37 rue_house 23:34:35: ...katsmeow-afk:i wanted to get the new bearing rails onto the driller
23:38 rue_house 04:07:27: ....any32388163: http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller2b.html
23:38 rue_house 04:09:01: .......katsmouw: http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller2b.html
23:38 rue_house it was 3 days,a nd you barely did anyhting
23:39 ^kat^-afk i'm sorry
23:39 rue_house why?
23:39 rue_house honestly, you were doing great things and not too many people were backing you
23:40 rue_house you were helping everyone, but nobody was helping you
23:40 ^kat^-afk so, situation normal
23:42 rue_house katsmouw:
23:42 e_house did http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller2b.html ,
23:43 rue_house 06:45:03: .......katsmouw:the zoom is such that you can see the teeth marks
23:43 rue_house 06:45:42: .......katsmouw:the weld of the bolt tot he coupling nut is 90ampdc on a growlbox, freepaw, 3/16 7018 rod
23:43 rue_house 06:45:58: ........rue_bed:yep
23:43 rue_house 06:46:11: ........rue_bed:I need to finish my tig
23:43 rue_house 06:46:17: ........rue_bed:those make really nice welds
23:45 ^kat^-afk did anyone save the pic of the teeth marks?
23:45 rue_house I dodnt think I did
23:45 ^kat^-afk i didn't
23:45 rue_house only latley am I starting too feeel so inconfident int eh longevity of the internet that I save everything
23:49 rue_house .katsmeow-afk:added to http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller2b.html , not much
23:49 rue_house 00:37:41: ...katsmeow-afk:added to http://206.113.66.9/driller_pics/driller2b.html , not much
23:49 rue_house 00:37:58: ..........Tom_L:got tired of trippin over it so i threw it out with all the pcb material
23:49 rue_house 00:38:25: ......rue_house:hah, you have some good tricks kat
23:49 rue_house 00:38:37: ...katsmeow-afk:<curtsey>
23:50 ^kat^-afk i wonder what i did
23:51 rue_house 01:04:28: ...katsmeow-afk:one side effect of the sping loading is i can now feel any imperfections in the guide rails on the 2 inch tubing
23:51 rue_house 01:05:15: ...katsmeow-afk:using a hacksaw blade as a surface plane on the steel :-)
23:51 rue_house 01:06:17: ...katsmeow-afk:still need to gang the bearing rails together to restick unsync'd Y axis travel, altho the 3/8 rod helps
23:51 rue_house 01:06:28: ........theatro:remind me again, this is a PCB driller you make ?
23:54 rue_house you were getting close, you were leaning eagle
23:54 rue_house .katsmouw:eagle is pissing me off
23:54 rue_house 9:55:08: .......katsmouw:you kowit takes almost as long to make the webpage for my pcb driller as it takes to make the driller itself?
23:56 rue_house eagle was really giving you grief